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06-05-2018, 12:24 PM #1481
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06-05-2018, 12:29 PM #1482
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06-05-2018, 12:56 PM #1484
Back day (finally at gym).
Close parallel grip pull down - never did this before, got a special feeling from it, also didn't know what weight to use, had a warm up set with 40kg, then selected 65 I believe and squeezed 8-10 reps for good. Repeat at rowing machine, then db bent over row (single arm), finished with barbell bent over row (45°).
My lower back was painful pumped. Couldn't speak properly jaw muscles were (and still are) cramping, despite I had 1lt water throughout session.
Ammonia/acetone breath smell creeped up again that means I needed more carbs pre wo.
Any input how to improve my back day?
In for shoulders tomorrow. Nice machines around including shoulder press and rear delts.
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06-05-2018, 01:06 PM #1485MONITOR
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Hi everyone, yous still all going good ?.
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06-05-2018, 01:30 PM #1486
Back pumps? Are you taking var or clen ?
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06-05-2018, 01:36 PM #1488Productive Member
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Away out a run.
Yes the vest is ironic
And yes im wearing squatting knee wraps
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06-05-2018, 01:52 PM #1489
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06-05-2018, 04:14 PM #1494
Glad you are finally in a proper a gym, it does make a difference IMO.
Not really much to improve, just make sure your chest is out and spine arched back (or lats dont activate), try to maintain the elbows close to the side of your body on rows and really pull your elbows as far back as possible. See many ppl in gyms not pulling elbows back on rows, so they are not squeezing the latissimus dorsi as should be.
Ah, I always add a pullover type movement, hammer strength pullover machine is great, but straight arms pull downs done correctly is awesome too. It is a great exercise to save your grip, as it can get tired with a lot pull movements.
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06-05-2018, 04:33 PM #1497Productive Member
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06-05-2018, 05:12 PM #1498
It does indeed, felt much more comfortable around than I expected, like I always trained there. Overall very much of a laid back and relaxed place.
I was thinking to pick just one between db and bb bent over row, probably favour the latter, just one intense set and spare energy to hit back from a different angle, perhaps wide grip pulldowns. Maybe also add some deadlifts, but stop eccentric phase at shin.
Pullover machine I saw one but had no idea what it was, just googled it. I usually do pullovers on a chest session but I'll move to back day thanks.Last edited by hammerheart; 06-05-2018 at 05:15 PM.
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06-05-2018, 06:03 PM #1499Productive Member
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06-05-2018, 07:14 PM #1501
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These are some of my fav pullovers that can be done pretty much anywhere! Similar to chest ones but a few changes to target the lats.
https://youtu.be/CVz8KjQtXho
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06-05-2018, 07:16 PM #1502
Db and bb will feel different/hit muscles differently bc of different grip. You can further mix it up by using a reverse grip, or a smith machine for bb, or straddle an incline bench prone for db rows. There must be a hundred ways to do rows. Once you have the stamina you can benefit from doing several types of rows in a single workout.
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Cardio the night after work. Thats all thats on the agenda today. Not been eating enough. Need to get my arse in gear
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06-06-2018, 04:42 AM #1507
Sup guys,
Chest last night, was a decent session.
Press Ups 5x 15-20 1x Fail
Shoulder Height Chest Flys 3x 8-10 1xDS
Decline Chest Flys 2x 8-10 1xDS
Flat Smith Bench Press 3x8-10 (Light, still experiencing shoulder weakness)
Incline Smith Bench Press 3x8-10 (Light again)
Chest Press 1x DS
Legs tonight, Yay!!
Food has been good, I am where i want to be body fat wise so have been eating intuitively the past few days and things are going great, fuller and feel nice and tight in the mid section going to keep it all here BF wise and pack on a few slabs of lean mass! Average around 2800-3000 Calories, cardio has increased to assist.
Enjoying the hardness masteron brings when i'm pumped in the gym!
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06-06-2018, 04:44 AM #1508
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06-06-2018, 04:59 AM #1509
The tren from everyone else must be affecting you. LOL
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06-06-2018, 05:21 AM #1510
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I always believed that you should do the heaviest compound movements first (the chest press), do the rest of the compound movements, then do the isolation exercises, and finish it out with the push-ups.
Do you usually have enough left in the tank by the time you get to the chest press?
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06-06-2018, 07:31 AM #1512
Its all preference and experimentation, you don't have to start with compound work, you can pre-exhaust the muscle with isolation then move onto a compound movement... That's the approach i am using at the moment for chest.
A bit of info below for you ...
"Pre-exhaust training is an excellent technique by forcing your muscles to work twice as hard on compound movements ensuring muscular fatigue first before neurological fatigue sets in. Secondly, because single-joint movements are used first and bio-mechanically great exercises for joint stability it can be used to limit the force on the joints and tendons when doing multiple-joint movements. And thirdly, pre-exhaust can be used during training plateaus, training through an injury or for a change in training mode to maintain interest. It is typically used to offset the body's ability to adapt to a certain exercise stimulus, i.e. an exercise and/or mode of training"
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45 mins of cardio tonight not bad.
Good night guys. Im having a wee cuppa tea then crashing
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06-06-2018, 02:39 PM #1516
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06-06-2018, 03:05 PM #1517
Nope haven't seen one.
Today went for shoulder but made a mistake and should have rested instead, had one crappy workout, just got a (rather decent) pump and went home spent already. Recover is not my best quality I'll admit it, my tris are still sore from last chest session (Sunday).
Tried the shoulder press machine but was unimpressed. Seated overhead also was meh. What I'm used to and I like are standing military presses, don't feel like expressing half the power if taking a seat.
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06-06-2018, 04:25 PM #1518
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06-06-2018, 04:37 PM #1519
IMO chest is not really greatly activated by pullovers. Like DY I only do pullovers for lats.
Db pullovers get harder when you are advanced cause the bigger weight will stress your wrists and specially the elbows. The guy on the video looks too big to be playing with that little weight, not saying its not a good demonstration of the exercise, but after a few years of pullovers a pullover machine allows you to move a lot more weight with much lower risk on your joints.
EDIT: This is what im talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZnLRqD4M-I (sorry for not being so sexy lol, although I dont endorse the yelling part)Last edited by Mr.BB; 06-06-2018 at 04:44 PM.
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