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02-20-2004, 05:44 PM #1
Patriot/Anti-patriot
keep it coming,
do you not think that your statements (as is obvious) are not offensive to Americans everywhere? Do you then refrain from such slander?Last edited by bigbouncinballs; 02-20-2004 at 05:53 PM.
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02-20-2004, 05:53 PM #2
well, i tried.
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02-20-2004, 06:08 PM #3Junior Member
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What I don't get is how he was saying his people were brought over to this country in chains, his people not him, that was a long ass time ago, a time he was never apart of. He was never a slave, yet he acts like a ****ing victim. I can see him being the type of person that thinks they deserve to get treated special because their black. We have tons of people like that in jersey and it ****ing sucks. All they do is breed more children so they can get the goverment to pay for them.
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02-20-2004, 06:08 PM #4
I dont understand what your asking.
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02-20-2004, 06:12 PM #5Junior Member
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Originally Posted by USfighterFC
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02-20-2004, 06:11 PM #6
look in steroid questions to catch up usfighter
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02-20-2004, 06:27 PM #7
Yeah i checked it out.........medical student can rot. Tell you one thing if i ever get sick i'll die before that dude ever touches me.
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02-20-2004, 07:55 PM #8
i had a really long response to this since the "nazi's in poland" remark got to me but i'll just end up getting banned.. all i have to say is that i hope his lack of reasnobility wont provent him from doing his job in the upcoming years.
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02-21-2004, 09:29 AM #9
Elliot, dude. I love the quote in your profile. That's awesome. Mark
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02-22-2004, 10:21 AM #10
so am I right to think this guy came to AR just to flame people? (he only has 11 posts). I don't understand (wrinkles brow). some just need to get a life.
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02-22-2004, 10:39 AM #11
This is ridiculous.. I gotta visit the steroid forum more often.. I don't understand, when he compared the war in Iraq to a genocide.. Killing innocent people my ass, Our soilders are dying every day too, thats war.. People like that tick me off..
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02-22-2004, 10:50 AM #12
He's a douche bag
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02-22-2004, 11:06 AM #13Junior Member
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What I don't get is how he was saying his people were brought over to this country in chains, his people not him, that was a long ass time ago, a time he was never apart of. He was never a slave, yet he acts like a ****ing victim. I can see him being the type of person that thinks they deserve to get treated special because their black. We have tons of people like that in jersey and it ****ing sucks. All they do is breed more children so they can get the goverment to pay for them.
You failed to understand why I mentioned that this country was built on the backs of blacks and on the corpses of Native Americans. It was simply because I kept hearing innane remarks such as "these people are fighting for your freedoms" or even stupider...I saw this one user here have the signature: "If you are reading this in English, then thank a soldier."
You people have no conception of history, except what has been spoon-fed to you. In prime, what I am trying to explain to you is that your idea that America is somehow a beacon of light, justice, and democracy ...this idea is ludicrous if we look at the empirical evidence. The USA was born on mass-murder and destruction. In the annals of history, it shall have the honored position of being a nation built on the complete OBLITERATION of the native population. The USA was one of the last countries to ban slavery, and the world looked in horror as Americans sicked blood-hounds on black people not less than 35 years ago. It is guilty of possessing the most WMDs, rejects international rulings, flouts international law, and is guilty of using WMDs on innocent civilians more than any other country in the history of humanity.
I find it astonishing how you people use such racist rhetoric, talking about Iraqis as if they are somehow inferior to you. You truly believe this, I know. Because you are American. Yes, say it proudly. You are American and superior. (Similiarly, did the colonizers think of themselves superior, but history does have a quaint way about it.)
Take care. I'm here to respond, but please -- try refraining from ad-hoc attacks. They simply make you look silly. And also remember that a group of morons is still a group of morons...perhaps a marathon of morons and nothing else...being in the majority on this board only shows that idiots of a feather do indeed flock together.
Yours Truly, Malcolm.Last edited by MedicalStudent; 02-22-2004 at 11:08 AM.
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02-22-2004, 12:34 PM #14
Since I realize it will do little to no good, I won't waste my time with a lengthy post.
I will say however that I hope you never matriculate further into your medical career because I would hate to call someone as narrow minded and ignorant as you a colleague..If you think there are no WMD over in Iraq, then you are spending too much time reading the newspaper and not enough time experiencing things first hand..I was a veteran of the first Gulf War, and I can speak quite intelligently from first-hand knowledge that there are WMD hidden in Iraq..The man(Hussein) had several years to prepare for inspections and our hunt for these weapons..Why do you think he stalled us for so long?? Do you really think he voluntarily dismantled all of these weapons and destroyed them??
I'm not going to flame you, tell you to go back to Africa, or quit bitching..Personally I could care less where you live and what religion it is that you practice..I wish that we were not involved in a war in Iraq..Obviously for very different reasons than you, but the fact is in order to protect US interests and our way of life, war sometimes is the only recourse..Unfortunatley US Soldiers will die, and no matter how that is looked at, it is most certainly a sad and unfortunate outcome..If you feel so strongly against the war, then take your political beliefs and share them on another board as they are not welcome here..This board is not for people to come to and throw there political beliefs at others..It is for sharing information and ideas..And for you to come here with 11 posts and start calling people hicks, meatheads, unemployed, etc..is not only stupid, but pointless..Now, if you choose to want to compare brain pans and try to impress people with your mediocre at best vocabulary, I am more than willing to shread you to pieces as my credentials are way out of your league Medical Student..This will be my only polite response to you unless your posts become more relevant to this board and less of a political agenda..We can always use a productive member here..If that is not possible from you, I am politely asking you to find another board to share your polital views..Good luck with whatever you choose to do..
Doc M
Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
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02-22-2004, 01:03 PM #15
*spits tobacco in bottle*..........MS, u got a problem with hicks BOY!!!!!
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02-22-2004, 01:37 PM #16
doc m
hey doc m whats a brain pan?
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02-22-2004, 09:54 PM #17
A reasoned post. How nice . . .
Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
1) Cool . . .
2) True. Folks aren't dying for the rights of Americans, they're dying for the interests of the United States Government, which is dominated by Big Business--Oil Companies, Banks, GM, Ford, etc. Sad, but true.
3) I'd modify the statement, "The USA was built on mass murder and destruction" a bit. It was started in the 1600's as a place to make profits. European companies sent colonizers over here with the expectation that they would return tobacco, furs, and whatever other treasures the New World could ship back to the old. The initial settlers ran into friendly indians who taught them how to cope in the new environment. Later, when the settlers needed more land, they took it from the indians.
There's a line that goes, "When the Pi;grims reached the New World, first they fell on their knees . . . then, they fell upon the indians." Pretty much true.
The American South depended heavily upon slave labor. Without the slaves they imported from Africa, the South would still be a backwater today.
And yes, the US record on civil rights is atrocious, largely because for some strange reason, the American public doesn't really give a rat's ass about personal freedom. Most folks don't have a clue as to what the Bill of Rights is all about, or know that it is important that it apply equally to everyone in all circumstances. That sucks, but it is what it is . . .
4) I used to find stuff like that astonishing, too. But I've heard that, and worse, so often that not much surprises me anymore. Every now and then you hear newstories of idiot masochists who volunteer to spy for Islamic terrorists. It's crazy, but they're out there, just like the ones who want 4 more years of intense scrutiny of their mail and warrantless searches, courtesy of the Bush Administration.
5) Yah, but one candle in a dark room can illuminate many untutored faces. Be like a shirt in your closet and "hang in there."
--Tock
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02-23-2004, 08:20 AM #18Originally Posted by Tock
Anyway, I know you don't really care my respect for you...but seeing this type of association between you and him will only lead to lack of respect not only from myself, but many other bros on here that truly do try and respect your views. I think of you as a bigger person than this piece of shiat.
peace,
ttgb
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02-23-2004, 11:17 AM #19
I think most will agree that I am almost always open to differnet opinions and insight..I will have to agree with tryingtogetbig when he said he was suprised by Tock's assocation of beliefs with medicalstudent..Tock, I always try and understand your point of view even if it is very different from my own..I am however very suprised that you have defended this particular person and the radical beliefs he entertains..I certainly don't want to turn this into anything other than a debate of differing opinions, but I wanted to express my thoughts in regards to you..If I didn't have a level of respect for you, I wouldn't waste my time directing a response at you..I guess what I am trying to say in a nutshell is that I am disappointed how so many people feel about our country and the way we defend our freedoms..Our soldiers are simply the tools that are employed to carry out these orders, and without them and there selfless heroism, we would be living in a totally different country minus all of the luxuries and freedoms we all enjoy..
Doc M
Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig
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02-23-2004, 01:03 PM #20Originally Posted by Doc M
What issue(s) or what radical beleifs in partcular are you referring to?
-Tock
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02-23-2004, 01:52 AM #21Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
We rarely think about the cause when in combat. It's the man next to us that we are fighting for, and we fight for our country because it is our duty. By flaming Totenkopf, you threw this back in his face.
So take your Islamic rhetoric somewhere else. I wish you were'nt hiding like a coward behind your computer. I pray to MY GOD that one day you will go fight your cause, and one of us will have the opportunity to line you up in our sites.
Sym
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02-23-2004, 02:05 AM #22Originally Posted by Symian
1) Um . . . where's the disrespect? He only mentioned his own perception of his place in the situation.
2) Hmm . . . I think I missed the flame . . .
3) I missed the "Islamic rhetoric" as well. I did notice your "Christian rhetoric," and the peculiar version of "Christian Love" I've come to see all too often.
Such harsh words . . . must be your time of he month . . .
--Tock
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02-23-2004, 02:50 AM #23Originally Posted by Tock
According to your numbers;
1 and 2) I was hoping I could get this across in the first post, but it's tricky to explain if you've never been in a combat arms field or the military period. Basically the man just came back from war where he fought for his fellow soldiers and country, then comes back to people telling him it was for nothing. Like I said before, we're there fighting for ourselves, not some cause. I guess you could compare it to Vietnam, where as these soldiers fought and saw some bad stuff, and then came back to "Jane Fonda" liberal hippies calling them baby killers. No respect, no thank you for sacrificing yourself. People like this make me sick. So by rebuking Totenkopf or the government that sent him there, he disrespected his entire act of heroism. He also compared OUR military to the Nazis. That my friend, though possibly indirect, I would consider disrespectful flaming.
3)Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
And sorry about the harsh words...650mg/wk Prop does that to me when people start bad mouthing things that I believe in.
Sym
Thought you'd like this one Tock.
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02-23-2004, 12:51 PM #24Originally Posted by Symian
Oh yeah. Class . . . nothin' but real class . ..
--Tock
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02-23-2004, 08:01 AM #25
can you get a 203 kit for tht m4 lol.
Originally Posted by Symian
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02-24-2004, 07:46 AM #26Originally Posted by DF2003
Sym
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02-23-2004, 02:12 AM #27Originally Posted by MedicalStudent
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02-22-2004, 11:40 AM #28
Medicalstudent - You're entitled to your opinion.. You surely take prejudice to another level.. This is off topic, call me ignorant (i don't mind, i could use the insight anyway) Speaking from a muslim point of view, why would a group of terriosts declare war on the western civilization (Innocent people of NYC) for their religion? Whoever responsible, for flying those planes, and killing that number of people did so for their muslim religion.. I'm curious to what your views are of what happened on 9/11.. Like i said this is off topic, but that seems to be closer to a genocide then the war in Iraq.. Is this just a fluke..
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02-23-2004, 11:26 AM #29Junior Member
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Due to the fact that so many of you responded and my limited time, I may not be able to respond very quickly.
Originally Posted by monster.
Having said that, there are many Americans who are not so ignorant (like myself and others) who actively protested the war on Iraq. My respects to such individuals.Last edited by MedicalStudent; 02-23-2004 at 11:47 AM.
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02-23-2004, 01:57 PM #30Originally Posted by MedicalStudentOriginally Posted by monster.
My 2 cents
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02-22-2004, 01:48 PM #31
good post doc...
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02-22-2004, 02:23 PM #32
Brain Pan..Well, I wrote that and didn't think about anyone even asking what the hell it was..A brain pan is a term used to describe someone's intellectual prowess..Kind of like men comparing penis sizes, expect you are comparing your brain matter..Not the greatest explanation, but I think you get my drift..
Doc M
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02-22-2004, 02:25 PM #33
Very good post doc!
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02-22-2004, 02:33 PM #34
Doc, Well said, beautiful post!!!! Sumed up my thoughts exactly..
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02-22-2004, 04:12 PM #35
Nice post doc
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02-22-2004, 06:01 PM #36
This guy is the perfect example of why you should have to have a license to give birth to a child....
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02-22-2004, 08:49 PM #37
thanks for the insightful post doc m...
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02-23-2004, 08:22 AM #38
Oh, Tock, btw...why do you not have a reply for Doc M? Is it because he is right on the money with his post?
peace,
ttgb
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02-23-2004, 12:58 PM #39Originally Posted by tryingtogetbig
I didn't really notice it . . . I'll go back and take another look.
BTW, You're right, I really don't care what other folks think of my "associations" or opinions. Jesus himself didin't give a rat's ass, not that I give a rat's ass about what he thinks either . . . I call 'em the way I see 'em. At my age, weight, and smell, it don't make any difference anyway.
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02-23-2004, 11:36 AM #40
God I love to hear the pissing and moaning of a jealous, racist wanna be like Med stu....
"Enlightened" People like him make me glad I am me...
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