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    Quote Originally Posted by Superballer
    I agreee.... you will look mean as fvck at 9% either way......
    yeah i will look good but i just want to get down really low all while holding on to my LBM as best i can.

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    gotcha...
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    Eventual goals? like long term? long term i want to be 5'9" 220-240 at or around 7-10%bf. i have been in a collegiate strength training competition, but they didn't drug test and i havent; stepped over to the dark side as of yet. but i like the strength side of things, and if i can develop my body over the next 4-5 years i may compete in bodybuilding. i havent trained religiously long enough to even think about it yet, i have a ways to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    thanks for the honesty, however my diet is good to go, and a few people on this board who's bodybuilding knowledge i consider "amazing" even provided me the diet and revised the diet for me personally. i appreciate your opinion on the loss of LBM, which will undoubtedly happen, however i am just going to try and keep losses to a minimum. i just want to seriously cut and see how low i can go because when i bulk i am afraid to get too far away from leanness. so i want to know if i do go far away from leanness in the future that i can indeed cut down to a low bf%.
    People with "amazing" bodybuilding knowledge? You must be thinking of another board, cuz no one on this board could provide "amazing" bodybuilding knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    People with "amazing" bodybuilding knowledge? You must be thinking of another board, cuz no one on this board could provide "amazing" bodybuilding knowledge.

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    so i guess you don't see youself and others the way i do... by amazing i meant...well no, i meant amazing

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    You're the man Nova.

    You better not disappoint. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    Eventual goals? like long term? long term i want to be 5'9" 220-240 at or around 7-10%bf. i have been in a collegiate strength training competition, but they didn't drug test and i havent; stepped over to the dark side as of yet. but i like the strength side of things, and if i can develop my body over the next 4-5 years i may compete in bodybuilding. i havent trained religiously long enough to even think about it yet, i have a ways to go.
    i was reading your post before and i thought you ran phera plex. isn't that a designer steroid as well? correct me if i am wrong.

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    Pro hormone. Legal for now.

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    so it is not a steroid then. i am planning on clean bulking next week do you recommend that i run that then since it's not a roid?

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    Start your own thread bro, in the supplement forum.

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    oh sorry. i didn't mean to hijack thread. sorry nova.

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    no big deal, yes it is a methylated steroid . so yes it is a steroid. i just say darkside in reference to illegal orals and injectables. sorry if i mislead you with the no steroid talk. i do consider it a steroid, but i havent ran a cycle of say testE/dbol and such...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    You're the man Nova.

    You better not disappoint. haha

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    i won't.

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    how long are you cutting till Nova, all summer ?

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    1buff and nova need to get a room...

    nova: what is it gonna be? supps or no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    no big deal, yes it is a methylated steroid. so yes it is a steroid. i just say darkside in reference to illegal orals and injectables. sorry if i mislead you with the no steroid talk. i do consider it a steroid, but i havent ran a cycle of say testE/dbol and such...
    oh ok. i was thinking of running it but i don't know how long it stays on your system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve0
    how long are you cutting till Nova, all summer ?
    me and buff think it may only take 10-12 weeks so that will most likely be the duration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    me and buff think it may only take 10-12 weeks so that will most likely be the duration.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myka
    1buff and nova need to get a room...

    nova: what is it gonna be? supps or no?
    well lover, only supps im taking right now are vitaminC, glucosamine & chondrotin (for my joints) chromium pico., Bcomplex, and a multi.

    as for weightloss supps, i am going to go as long as i can without any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lc1987
    oh ok. i was thinking of running it but i don't know how long it stays on your system.
    it has a half-life of 8 hours. you will be clean very soon after stopping. i loved it...if you have a relatively lowbf% and some training experience with a little muscle to build off of, i would say do some searching on here, and do it.

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    great day today! stuck teh diet like a champ. now it's time to...(you guessed it) study

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    long term i want to be 5'9" 220-240 at or around 7-10%bf. , and if i can develop my body over the next 4-5 years i may compete in bodybuilding. .
    If this is the case I'd stop this cutting nonesense and start bulking ASAP... 4-5yrs to gain 40lbs of LBM is gonna be hard work but deff doable, might as well get started now and quit wasting time playing around trying to get skinny.

    Seriously though. If you plan on hitting that goal weight, I'd quit wasting time. Train hard, Eat big, and get serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    If this is the case I'd stop this cutting nonesense and start bulking ASAP... 4-5yrs to gain 40lbs of LBM is gonna be hard work but deff doable, might as well get started now and quit wasting time playing around trying to get skinny.

    Seriously though. If you plan on hitting that goal weight, I'd quit wasting time. Train hard, Eat big, and get serious.
    haha thanks again man i really do appreciate your comments. i guess i will just have to wait on those gains and make then even longer-term. i really want to do this cut now, but after this i will be doing a very long very intense bulk. thanks again man, and i will look to you for advice and comments now and in the future.

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    No prob. I'll leave u alone now lol.. Maybe I just don't get it? Goodluck on your road to 5%.
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    i appreciate all of the constructive conversation

    i didn't feel so hungry this morning but i didn't get much sleep last night. this diet is really working! today is chest &tris and i will cut down on the working sets because i am no longer bulking. i am going to go (working sets) 3military press, 3flatBB, 3incline flies, 3closegrip bench, and end on a set until failure of dips. anyone see a reason why i shouldn't do that routine 2night?


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    Ummm, why do you have military presses in a chest/tri routing?

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    sorry, smilitary press is all i do for shoulders and that works best on chest day. so i suppose its a chest/shoulder/tri day...

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    ok hungry a lot today, but i've stuck the diet all day again. here is was my workout tonight.

    Front military Press: w1(45lbs-10)
    SET 1. 100-(10)
    SET 2. 110-(10)
    SET 3. 120-(10)
    * all these sets were done with only 1 minute rest between them*

    Flat BB Bench w1 45lbs(10)... w2 135(10)
    SET 1. 190(10)
    SET 2. 200(10)
    SET 3. 210(9)+1 static hold
    *again with 1 minute rest in between sets. on teh last one i struggled and needed a spot on my 9th so for teh 10th i had push up to the sticking spot and held it there for 6 seconds and had the spotter help me all the way up for my 10th rep*

    Incline DB Flies w1 25's(10)
    SET 1. 35's(10)
    SET 2. 45's(10)
    SET 3. 45's(10)
    * so the natatorium doesn't have 50's because someone stole them...nice again 1 minute rest between sets*

    Close Grip Bench Press(CGBP) w1 45lbs (10)
    SET 1. 95(10)
    SET 2. 105(10)
    SET 3. 115(10)
    * i have no indurance on this exercise whatsoever. i could honestly probably do 250 4x, but when it comes to anything after 6 reps i feel a serious burn, but hopefully my strength will go up on this exercise. i took about 1-2 minutes rest between sets, at least a little longer than the other exercises.*

    3 minutes of rest and then dips until failure (12)
    * not bad for me*

    pretty good workout, from my log last week, i didn't do flies and i wanted to go to 50's but, without them, i couldn't. strength stayed the same in the flatBB and went up in the CGBP, and military press. so i feel pretty good about that.

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    abs are sore today from that workout. haha hardly did anything, but whatever i did it must have been right on. chest is a tad sore today and i expect it will be sore tomorrow as well. i can already see a difference in the mirror in my abs. i think i lose my bf in my abs forst opposed to my arms and legs like most people. weird eh'. anywho time to go study and take my last final. now i can brag...
    FINAL GRADES IN MY CLASSES SO FAR:
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    almost guarantee i get an A in this business class too.
    good semester, and my hard work looks like it is again going to pay off for me.
    (FYI that B i got was in the hardest class i think i've ever taken, so i am very satisfied with that).

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    man, i would love to have grades hat look like that haha. damn lack of effort.


    everything comming along good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
    man, i would love to have grades hat look like that haha. damn lack of effort.


    everything comming along good?
    yeah the hunger pains are subsiding, and i am seeing some small but visable results after my 3rd day. i didn't notice any loss in strength and that was my biggest problem with my cut before my first bulk. i think the diet will prove to be very effective and helpful. after my cut i will PM my diet to anyone who sticks with me and wishes to see it. i don't want to now because some very experienced members of this forum have asked me not to post it. but it is working great for me. again, i am just an amateur and fairly new to the training and dedication aspect of bodybuilding so now after learning the ropes i am starting to climb them.

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    when i go home this weekend for my birthday i will take a few pics with my sis's digital camera and pst them up. i wish i could take them at the sae place with teh same lighting but it can't happen. i will try my best to do the same poses and a couple full body flexes, including legs this time. i love this board by the way. -nOva

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    Nice grades.... what you going to school for?

    I'm pre med, so lots of physics, chemistry, math, biology and it pretty much sucks trying to maintain a competitive GPA..... everybody always says how important sleep is and I'm like sh1t, I wish I could sleep 8 hours tooo!

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    hospital administrationas a masters and health information administration/management is the BA. and i mentor for biology, just ask MYKA . i love anything competitive so i bust my ass in school my GPA is around 3.8. hard work pays off in every aspect of life.

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    yes its true he is a mentor for biology..I like it when he stands over me and helps me with the naughty problems

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    stuck the diet and got an hour of cardio in today. liking the diet a lot. finals are done and i kicked an abundance of ass on all of them. i hope all my AR bros do just as well if not better on theirs. i'll holla 2morrow. gotta get up early so im hittin the sack...

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    right on bro. keep up the good work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superballer
    right on bro. keep up the good work!
    thanks main!

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    well really hungry but the metamucil sf is helping me through it. i am seeing results guys for sure around the abs and (buff) you can see some lat separation.....i know i know i don't have any, but i can see the lower part now .

    "time takes time you know"...living by that day to day...sometimes hour by hour.

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