--->>405<<--- accountability/progress log

**--->>405<<---** · 07-31-2012, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by tbody66

so you are starting IF for sure?

yeh i think i am tbody. ive done low carb, carb cycle, maintenance, unintended bulk. mite as well

maybe itll get me as lean as id like (6%)

**RaginCajun** · 07-31-2012, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

cool.. sounds good. i can always implement the eca stack to get thru the first week or so if i have to

i will have it on standby!

trust me, you will need something!

**--->>405<<---** · 07-31-2012, 01:35 PM

lucky me

**gonejeepin** · 08-01-2012, 06:43 AM

How many hour fast you gonna do, gonna cram it all in with a 23/1 ?

**--->>405<<---** · 08-01-2012, 08:30 AM

no i was thinking 16/8.. i really love to eat so i want to try and make it as painless as possible. i think i can get into a routine from 2100-1300 fast..

no cardio or lifting today.

**mockery** · 08-01-2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

no i was thinking 16/8.. i really love to eat so i want to try and make it as painless as possible. i think i can get into a routine from 2100-1300 fast..

no cardio or lifting today.

what is your calorie count right now?

if you can still eat big after the gym or first work out but try and split your meals into 4 instead of 3 so every 2 hours in the 8 hour window. I suffered no muscle loss when doing fasted lifting While using 10g bcaa before and bridging every 2 hours after depending on my day/work/woman issues.

**RaginCajun** · 08-01-2012, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

no i was thinking 16/8.. i really love to eat so i want to try and make it as painless as possible. i think i can get into a routine from 2100-1300 fast..

no cardio or lifting today.

check out lean gains dot com and go read your little heart out

**--->>405<<---** · 08-01-2012, 09:09 AM

im planning on 2700cals for workout days, 2300 for non workout days,

3 meals startn with PWO. one thing is i do my cardio at 0430 and then lift at 1200 so i wasnt sure what to do between. i suppose maybe bcaas post cardio every 2 hrs thru my workout.

and i usually get very hungry after i lift! as a matter of fact im hungry rite now! i havent eaten and waiting til 1300 just to try it out. but i did sleep in til 1000 so it doesnt really count i suppose

**tbody66** · 08-01-2012, 09:13 AM

sounds like a plan. I know you will let us know exactly how it goes.

**mockery** · 08-01-2012, 09:14 AM

yeah 2700 is doable in 3 meals. but for me that was the maximum

i dont think u will need BCAA before or after fasted cardio. You will be OK. maybe 1g vitamin c to help fight the cortisol? Just take 10g BCAA before your work out at 12.

**--->>405<<---** · 08-01-2012, 11:08 AM

yeh i think i take vit c anyways as part of my TRT regimen. will look into the cortisol thing. thats an area im not very well versed in as of yet.

**AXx** · 08-01-2012, 03:02 PM

Hey bro, I actually take bcaa's upon rising since I workout in morning around 9, then I take them directly after working out. They dont seem to be affecting the fast as far as I can tell. So from what I read you havent actually workout "hard" fasted yet, am I correct? If not your in for a treat. Its an amazing thing when you are actually stronger with no food on your stomach. Hope all goes well for ya.

**--->>405<<---** · 08-01-2012, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by 3Js

Hey bro, I actually take bcaa's upon rising since I workout in morning around 9, then I take them directly after working out. They dont seem to be affecting the fast as far as I can tell. So from what I read you havent actually workout "hard" fasted yet, am I correct? If not your in for a treat. Its an amazing thing when you are actually stronger with no food on your stomach. Hope all goes well for ya.

yeh thx man. no i havent worked out fasted yet. i usually wake up at 0430 to do cardio so i will have been awake 7.5 hrs without food before i lift (NOON) and then ill have pwo/meal1 at 1300-1330

about 1350cals!

**AXx** · 08-01-2012, 03:26 PM

Another thing its quite fun to stuff yourself, with 1200-1300cals in one meal, hell thats the reason I was fat (still am) because I lovd to stuff my face like a maniac.

**--->>405<<---** · 08-01-2012, 03:37 PM

yeh i know ! me 2! i liked my big bowl of cereal before bed (like 1000cals and 300g carbs) and my vanilla ice cream and milk in a glass with 7 double stuff oreos crunched in !! man im gonna have to have one of those soon!

**bikeral** · 08-01-2012, 09:05 PM

^^ You are making me hungry

**milky01623** · 08-01-2012, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

yeh i know ! me 2! i liked my big bowl of cereal before bed (like 1000cals and 300g carbs) and my vanilla ice cream and milk in a glass with 7 double stuff oreos crunched in !! man im gonna have to have one of those soon!

Thanx man I'm starving!!!!!!!!
Enjoy

**--->>405<<---** · 08-02-2012, 08:29 AM

Well i was gonna do legs and cardio today but it looks like i mite be goin in boat with brother so i may just do cardio tonite and legs tomorrow..

**mockery** · 08-02-2012, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

Well i was gonna do legs and cardio today but it looks like i mite be goin in boat with brother so i may just do cardio tonite and legs tomorrow..

so really every day is arm day bra?

hows the fasting going??

**--->>405<<---** · 08-02-2012, 03:22 PM

IF starts monday!

i did go from 0800 to 1530 today with no food and was pretty dang hungry! LOL

may be tuff at first but i havent set my mind to it yet too..

**Razor** · 08-02-2012, 03:43 PM

Whats IF, intermitted fasting?

**Razor** · 08-02-2012, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

IF starts monday!

i did go from 0800 to 1530 today with no food and was pretty dang hungry! LOL

may be tuff at first but i havent set my mind to it yet too..

I feel ya man, you can do it! Ill try and keep you motivated!

**mockery** · 08-02-2012, 04:25 PM

IF protocol is the best thing that happened to me since sliced Ezekiel bread

**Razor** · 08-02-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by mockery

IF protocol is the best thing that happened to me since sliced Ezekiel bread

I love Ezekiel bread. I try to tell everyone about it.

**--->>405<<---** · 08-02-2012, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Razor

I feel ya man, you can do it! Ill try and keep you motivated!

Thx dude! Starts monday. Shootn for 6% bf.

**--->>405<<---** · 08-02-2012, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by mockery

IF protocol is the best thing that happened to me since sliced Ezekiel bread

I hope infeel the same (although i do not like ezekiel bread)

**--->>405<<---** · 08-02-2012, 09:06 PM

Had a busy day. Went in boat. Tired. See yall tomorrow..

**Razor** · 08-02-2012, 10:43 PM

Keep up the good work!

**1tuffmudder** · 08-03-2012, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

Thx dude! Starts monday. Shootn for 6% bf.

hells ya brother nail down 6%, beast!

**LiveFitBeFit** · 08-03-2012, 07:23 AM

Ezekiel bread <3

**--->>405<<---** · 08-03-2012, 11:16 AM

well i tell u guys i had a great leg workout today! managed 405lbs on the squat for 2 sets x 8 reps.. also maxd out on the leg curl machine so im gonna have to figure something out there. i wonder where all this strength is coming from?

another thing when i got done i was flexing in the mirror and it appears i am losing fat since startn this 2500cals everyday 300g pro, 200g carbs, 55(ish)g fat. and i was down 2 lbs on the scale.

i dont know WHATS going on!

im eatn all my carbs in meals 1,2,3 and doing fasted cardio 4-5days per week.. must be working?

**milky01623** · 08-03-2012, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

well i tell u guys i had a great leg workout today! managed 405lbs on the squat for 2 sets x 8 reps.. also maxd out on the leg curl machine so im gonna have to figure something out there. i wonder where all this strength is coming from?

another thing when i got done i was flexing in the mirror and it appears i am losing fat since startn this 2500cals everyday 300g pro, 200g carbs, 55(ish)g fat. and i was down 2 lbs on the scale.

i dont know WHATS going on!

im eatn all my carbs in meals 1,2,3 and doing fasted cardio 4-5days per week.. must be working?

Nice one Bruv keep going whilst you're getting stronger

**--->>405<<---** · 08-04-2012, 11:56 AM

alright heres my diet starting monday IF:

workout days: 2681cals, 314g pro, 225g carbs, 57g fat

(1330) meal1: (PWO)
1 banana, 8oz 96%FF beef, 1/2cup brn rice, 3/4cup oats, green veg

(1730) meal2:
12oz chikn breast, entire recipe blueberry oat pancakes, green veg

(2130) meal3:
3whole eggs, 8egg whites, 12oz 96%FF beef, green veg

(green veggies r not factored into macros or cals here..

non-workout days: 2297cals, 343g pro, 65g carbs, 62g fat

(1300) meal1:
10oz chikn breast, 6oz 96%FF beef, 1/3cup brn rice, green veg

(1700) meal2:
10oz chikn breast, 6oz 96%FF beef, 3tbsp almond butter, green veg

(2100) meal3: 10oz chikn breast, 3whole eggs, 6 egg whites, green veg

obviously my workout days look a lot more fun than my non workout days. i dont know how im gonna fare on sunday being a nonworkout day and having to eat no carbs after meal1. well see.. worst case i eat the same on sunday as i do on workout days!

also green veggies r not factored into macros here either. 65g carbs comes from brn rice so that puts me 15g carbs over but what the hell!

**gonejeepin** · 08-04-2012, 03:14 PM

Looking forward to seeing your results with if sir.

**--->>405<<---** · 08-04-2012, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by gonejeepin

Looking forward to seeing your results with if sir.

me2 my man!

hope theyre positive!

**mockery** · 08-04-2012, 08:54 PM

i miss if already, especially with the bloat that has come back. i had ripped abs for 10 days! booya

**Tx89** · 08-05-2012, 12:38 AM

Subbed! You gonna Rock this man. You + IF = Killer combo :-)

**AXx** · 08-05-2012, 07:31 AM

Yeah you will do fine. I know my results arent miraculous but it's seems to work and yeah Mockery your right, the bloat from normal eating compared to IF is weird.

**GirlyGymRat** · 08-05-2012, 09:41 AM

I am looking over your IF plan and it seems that IF includes dramatically cutting out non veggies carbs on non workout days.
Seems the fat is about what you might eat on a regular cutting cycle or perhaps a bit lower. I am undertstanding this correctly.

you consume my total daily calories at one IF Meal!!!! LOL

**milky01623** · 08-05-2012, 12:49 PM

I'll tell you what buddy if my weigh in isn't great you and steM better get ready to help cos om thinking of either carb cycling or IF lol
But everyone whom knows me says I've lost weight I don't think I have sometimes!!!!!!!!!!