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    Var/Nolva stack female log

    I am going to be starting this stack as soon as I get it. I will be running it for 90 days, 10mg Var and 20mg Nolva. Here are my current stats:

    age: 32
    Height: 5'0.5"
    Weight: 121.6lbs (stage weight at my last show July 4 was 108.4)
    body fat: my scale said around 15%

    I am in my off season trying to put on some lean mass so that when I start my prep for my next show after the new year, it won't be as rough on the body due to have to drop a crazy amount of weight to lean out. If I can lean out while adding muscle I am sure my weight will go up slightly but it will depend on how my body responds to the stack. I have used Var before and was able to put on some quality mass fairly quickly but I ended up being too soft at the beginning of prep and ended up having to do a 20week prep which sucked! I don't want to have to do that again. The max I want to have to do is 12 weeks.

    I am doing my own off season diet until I can afford a coach and I already have one in mind as I want them to be the same ones I use for my prep to get me ready for a regional and then national show. My BMR is only around 1300 so I try to keep my calories between 1400 and 1500, macros are currently sitting around 20% carbs, 35% fat and 45% protein. Not including the veg and salad this adds up to around 1450 calories.
    Meal 1: 1/3c oats, 4 egg whites, 1 egg
    Meal 2: 1.5 scoops protein powder, 1TBS peanut butter, 1 rice cake
    Meal 3: 4oz chicken, 2oz green veg, 1oz avocado, homemade salsa
    Meal 4: 2 egg whites, 2oz chicken, 1TBS sugar free bbq sauce, 1tsp coconut oil, 1 low carb tortilla
    Meal 5: 4oz white fish, 2oz green veg, 1oz avocado, salad, 1TBS balsamic vinegar
    Meal 6: 1.5 scoops protein powder, 1TBS peanut butter

    I train 6 days a week, 3 heavy days and 3 moderate days incorporating HIIT/plyos. I only do about 20 mins cardio (walking on an 15 incline at 3.0) either before or after I lift depending if I am doing legs or not. If I am training legs and feel I need a longer warm up due to either being sore or stiff, I will do my cardio as my warm up; otherwise, I generally do cardio after legs to help flush lactic acid out. On days I train upper body, I do my cardio before as my warm up. I also train abs every day I train at the gym. Here is my lifting schedule as of right now:
    Monday - heavy legs
    Tuesday - moderate back with HIIT
    Wednesday - heavy shoulders
    Thursday - moderate legs with plyos
    Friday - heavy back/chest
    Saturday - moderate shoulders/arms with HIIT

    I am a competitor so I don't lift to see how much I can lift. I lift to maintain balance and symmetry as well as functional movement.

    I also take these vitamins everyday:
    women's multi
    digestive enzymes
    probiotic
    b-complex
    vit d3
    omega-3
    Carnigen and Lipocide (fat burner stack from Evogen, out of the Lipocide at the moment)

    I drink 4 liters of water a day, sometimes more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    I am going to be starting this stack as soon as I get it. I will be running it for 90 days, 10mg Var and 20mg Nolva. Here are my current stats: age: 32 Height: 5'0.5" Weight: 121.6lbs (stage weight at my last show July 4 was 108.4) body fat: my scale said around 15% I am in my off season trying to put on some lean mass so that when I start my prep for my next show after the new year, it won't be as rough on the body due to have to drop a crazy amount of weight to lean out. If I can lean out while adding muscle I am sure my weight will go up slightly but it will depend on how my body responds to the stack. I have used Var before and was able to put on some quality mass fairly quickly but I ended up being too soft at the beginning of prep and ended up having to do a 20week prep which sucked! I don't want to have to do that again. The max I want to have to do is 12 weeks. I am doing my own off season diet until I can afford a coach and I already have one in mind as I want them to be the same ones I use for my prep to get me ready for a regional and then national show. My BMR is only around 1300 so I try to keep my calories between 1400 and 1500, macros are currently sitting around 20% carbs, 35% fat and 45% protein. Not including the veg and salad this adds up to around 1450 calories. Meal 1: 1/3c oats, 4 egg whites, 1 egg Meal 2: 1.5 scoops protein powder, 1TBS peanut butter, 1 rice cake Meal 3: 4oz chicken, 2oz green veg, 1oz avocado, homemade salsa Meal 4: 2 egg whites, 2oz chicken, 1TBS sugar free bbq sauce, 1tsp coconut oil, 1 low carb tortilla Meal 5: 4oz white fish, 2oz green veg, 1oz avocado, salad, 1TBS balsamic vinegar Meal 6: 1.5 scoops protein powder, 1TBS peanut butter I train 6 days a week, 3 heavy days and 3 moderate days incorporating HIIT/plyos. I only do about 20 mins cardio (walking on an 15 incline at 3.0) either before or after I lift depending if I am doing legs or not. If I am training legs and feel I need a longer warm up due to either being sore or stiff, I will do my cardio as my warm up; otherwise, I generally do cardio after legs to help flush lactic acid out. On days I train upper body, I do my cardio before as my warm up. I also train abs every day I train at the gym. Here is my lifting schedule as of right now: Monday - heavy legs Tuesday - moderate back with HIIT Wednesday - heavy shoulders Thursday - moderate legs with plyos Friday - heavy back/chest Saturday - moderate shoulders/arms with HIIT I am a competitor so I don't lift to see how much I can lift. I lift to maintain balance and symmetry as well as functional movement. I also take these vitamins everyday: women's multi digestive enzymes probiotic b-complex vit d3 omega-3 Carnigen and Lipocide (fat burner stack from Evogen, out of the Lipocide at the moment) I drink 4 liters of water a day, sometimes more.
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    I think you'll like the full var cycle, var's gains are smaller but they are quality gains, as long as the gear is good. Pharm grade is top notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6 II
    I think you'll like the full var cycle, var's gains are smaller but they are quality gains, as long as the gear is good. Pharm grade is top notch.
    I have ran var solo before and responded well. I am excited to see what happens when I combine the nova with it!

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    The nolva is more for leaning out(less water retention from the var) correct? Ever tried ECY stack? GGR is loving it! and its main purpose is lower extremities as well as trouble areas... Though if you have anxiety it will heighten it's effects -- what about a low carb 'corn tortilla' - (probly not much of a difference lol)

    Best of luck!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3
    Subscribed! The nolva is more for leaning out(less water retention from the var) correct? Ever tried ECY stack? GGR is loving it! and its main purpose is lower extremities as well as trouble areas... Though if you have anxiety it will heighten it's effects -- what about a low carb 'corn tortilla' - (probly not much of a difference lol) Best of luck!!!
    ECY? I am trying to lean out some while adding size

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    ECY? I am trying to lean out some while adding size
    ECY is cutting my fat. It can be stacked with var.

    Since u are offseason and the clock isn't against you, coach prob didn't recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post

    ECY is cutting my fat. It can be stacked with var.

    Since u are offseason and the clock isn't against you, coach prob didn't recommend.
    I actually am not using a coach right now, trying to save money

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang View Post
    ECY? I am trying to lean out some while adding size
    Ephedrine/Caffiene/Yohimbine HCL

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Ephedrine/Caffiene/Yohimbine HCL
    Am I understanding correctly that the ECY stack is formulated for women because of the Y promoting circulation in the limbs/extremities or is it something men use, too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodchoke View Post
    Am I understanding correctly that the ECY stack is formulated for women because of the Y promoting circulation in the limbs/extremities or is it something men use, too?
    From my understanding it is for both men and women. The Y just stands for the yohimbine which I know is used by both men and women......but I could be wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodchoke
    Am I understanding correctly that the ECY stack is formulated for women because of the Y promoting circulation in the limbs/extremities or is it something men use, too?
    It's for both! I am having great success with it! Wish I had found it sooner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    It's for both! I am having great success with it! Wish I had found it sooner.
    E/C/Y = 20/200/3 (mgs)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodchoke
    E/C/Y = 20/200/3 (mgs)?
    Y. Twice daily. I had to tweak E a bit. And dosage time. 2nd dosage NLT 2 pm / 1 pm optimal. My first dose at 6 am. On weekends i only take once if can sleep in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Y. Twice daily. I had to tweak E a bit. And dosage time. 2nd dosage NLT 2 pm / 1 pm optimal. My first dose at 6 am. On weekends i only take once if can sleep in.
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    Thank you GirlyGymRat!

    Thank you Megang for letting me borrow your thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6 II View Post
    I think you'll like the full var cycle, var's gains are smaller but they are quality gains, as long as the gear is good. Pharm grade is top notch.
    So I don't have my stack yet but I am still working on my goals, one of which is to stay as lean as I can while I add muscle and another is to earn my IFBB pro card. Here are a couple pics I took Monday and Tuesday at the gym after training.



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    Today was shoulders and abs but I also threw in some bis cause I feel they are lagging behind my tris. I felt good, hit all angles but really nailed the lateral raises.

    Today is also my high carb day to refeed for legs tomorrow! Kind of nice not having a coach but I miss the accountability and direction and insight that having one provides.

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    Today (Friday) was back and chest. I started with 20 mins cardio and then I put in some work with lots of rows, focusing on adding thickness to my upper back

    Here is a pic from after my workout

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    Today (Friday) was back and chest. I started with 20 mins cardio and then I put in some work with lots of rows, focusing on adding thickness to my upper back Here is a pic from after my workout <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=158511"/>
    Nice definition. I need to incorporate rows into my workout!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
    Nice definition. I need to incorporate rows into my workout!!!!
    Thanks. I dedicated two days a week to back. One for a variety of pull downs and the other for a variety of rows.

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    I will be waiting to order my stack since I am moving on Friday to Indianapolis! Once I get there and have my address I will get my stack and hopefully by sept 1 be able to start it?

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    Legs are still decent....



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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    Legs are still decent.... <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=158565"/>
    I was at the gym tonight and couldn't help but notice the guys with no wheels. Shinny bird legs. Our calves have more definition.

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    Thankfully genetics gave me solid legs & calves

    I neglect legs so bad now - legs are def my least favorite part to workout

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> >
    Thankfully genetics gave me solid legs & calves I neglect legs so bad now - legs are def my least favorite part to workout
    Chest is my least favorite followed by legs....my favorite is back and shoulders!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    I was at the gym tonight and couldn't help but notice the guys with no wheels. Shinny bird legs. Our calves have more definition.
    Too common -- well developed torso and arms and straight little legs.

    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Thankfully genetics gave me solid legs & calves

    I neglect legs so bad now - legs are def my least favorite part to workout
    I'm fortunate, too. My legs are thick and ripped and my calves are unusually thick, but I definitely have to work them. My legs are big, well defined and veiny; I carry all of my BF between my midchest and waist.

    I do legs on Mondays to get them over with. Plus, on Monday everyone seems to be doing chest/tri, so the squat racks are more available. My squats are done for the week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodchoke View Post

    Too common -- well developed torso and arms and straight little legs.

    I'm fortunate, too. My legs are thick and ripped and my calves are unusually thick, but I definitely have to work them. My legs are big, well defined and veiny; I carry all of my BF between my midchest and waist.

    I do legs on Mondays to get them over with. Plus, on Monday everyone seems to be doing chest/tri, so the squat racks are more available. My squats are done for the week!
    I do legs on Monday as well, but I hit them twice a week. I also train back and shoulders twice a week but chest and arms are only one a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang View Post
    I do legs on Monday as well, but I hit them twice a week. I also train back and shoulders twice a week but chest and arms are only one a week.
    Cheers! Beast mode!

    I hit everything--with weight--once a week. I do a lot of hill climbing while I walk/run my dogs 5-6x/week; on our usual route, the first 1.5 miles is a climb. And I have one day that I do a full-body, body-weight/moderately-heavy kettle bell routine. I'm in my 6th week of a caloric deficit. My strength (or/and energy) has definitely dropped. It's no biggie, though; I'll hit 15% BF and start my next cycle -- BULK (and EAT).

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    It's been awhile since I posted. I moved to Indianapolis a week ago and my diet hasn't been clean. I have eaten things I haven't eaten in such a long time and I can tell in how my body feels and looks. Time to clean it up. My training wasn't content either so that is going to change this week as well. I also finally ordered my products and should have them this next week. I can't wait to see what they will do for my physique!

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    You can get your head in be game now that the move is behind you! How long you plan to run this next cycle?

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    I plan on running it for 90 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    I plan on running it for 90 days
    What's the planned protocol by week?

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    Honestly I was just going to take 10mg var and 20mg nolva daily.

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    I am going to start Sunday

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    I will be taking before pics tomorrow morning so I can start Sunday with my stack.

    I definitely need bigger shoulders and back.
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    I think you look great! I'm not super experienced but in my eyes you look very balanced. Like I would kill to have your legs BEST OF LUCK with your new stack and goal. Will be watching for sure.

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    Thanks! The reasoning behind needing bigger shoulders and back is to make my waist look smaller when I compete. My legs don't need to get bigger just fuller

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    Thanks! The reasoning behind needing bigger shoulders and back is to make my waist look smaller when I compete. My legs don't need to get bigger just fuller
    ^^^ smart. I like this approach!

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    With needing bigger shoulders that means I need to have bigger arms to keep proportions

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    Quote Originally Posted by megang
    With needing bigger shoulders that means I need to have bigger arms to keep proportions
    I am trying to make my waist look small. I need to grow a booty. I had one for several months but lost it ALL after 3.5 mo of very little time inside gym.

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