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06-19-2013, 09:49 AM #521
Ok already taking 1200mg NAC a day, because im on cycle, might even bump to 1800mg because I just started m winny on Monday.
Theres my other problem Doc, is I have had 5 in unde two years (My dad had them cronically when he was my age also) is that I have actually never passed one, I think I did the last time, but after a week and a half peeing into a strainer I stopped and gave up. The pain was too much at the last one. Xrays and CAT scans show that I always have very small stones in there all the time. They counted 5 last time. Plus the large one I had that was 5cm (or whatever unit of measure it was).
Knowing myself, I think the cause was calcium and dehydration. I have very bad reflux and constantly taking TUMS, which I have tried to stop and tak the one a days, but most have not been successful with helping the reflux yet. Doc wants me to keep trying then we will futher go into detail if it continues.
It has been clear all day today, but like I said I see the darkness and freaks me out. If u ever had a stone u know the pain. And the last one I had lasted 2 weeks almost, with the pain intensifying the entire time. Pain meds they sent me home didn't even touch the pain. So hence why I freak out when I see it.
Thanks again guys for the help. Anny other advise is welcome too.
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06-19-2013, 08:29 PM #522
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06-19-2013, 08:35 PM #523Originally Posted by austinite
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06-19-2013, 09:47 PM #524
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06-19-2013, 09:57 PM #526
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06-19-2013, 10:00 PM #528Originally Posted by austinite
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06-19-2013, 10:02 PM #529
lol. Not only that, I am now suspecting that Methyl tabs on the market are full of fillers. I don't see how they can pack that much into those little pills. But I'll know soon. This stuff in raw form is not cheap. You can compare injectable, you can get cyan for $20, same vial with Methyl is closer to $200.
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06-19-2013, 10:04 PM #530
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06-19-2013, 11:15 PM #531Originally Posted by Sfla80
So you've never passed a stone but you had a 5cm one. Was it surgically removed? Were you given any medical treatment or lithotripsy? Considering your dad had this problem, and that a cause was never identified (although it could be from excessive use of tums) bc the type of stone was never identified, at the very least you should have had a 24 hour urine collection to look at how much calcium you excrete. If you google familial hypercalciuric hypocalcemia you'll learn more about it.
You can't just assume that all dark amber urine is from a kidney stone unless you have been recently diagnosed with one. Plz see your doc, preferably a urologist and if you've been seeing one with no results then get a second opinion. It never hurts and most docs, that are secure in their practice, would welcome the additional point of view. Just make sure you bring all prior lab work and imaging that's applies to your stones.
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06-20-2013, 12:06 PM #533
Good call, I didn't even realize. Feel free to PM me. I'm really sorry Austinite. Can admin maybe remove my posts above? If not I can just delete all the text.
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06-20-2013, 01:46 PM #534Junior Member
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My dad sufers from stones and I found a remedy online that works like magic. Google it. You have to eat sparagus and drink 1 liter of coke . I know it sounds funny but it works. For some reason it creates a chemical reaction that disintegrates kidney stones. Again google it, Let me know if it works. Its worked on my dad , aunt and mother in law.
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Holy crap dude
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06-22-2013, 03:05 AM #537
Liver Support: NAC vs. UDCA
These two are probably the most mentioned liver supporting drugs around forums. I'll discuss the two drugs so that you can make a more informed decision. Please note that there are other great liver support methods but these are the ones I chose to compare. I will not be making any comparisons to other drugs. Please refrain from asking for reviews and/or comparisons to other drugs. These are the only two that I have ever used.
UDCA: Ursodeoxycholic acid
TUDCA is the same except it contains Taurine, hence the T. Taurine benefits will not be discussed, the following is in reference to UDCA only.
UDCA is a bile acid. (bear bile) - Pharm grade is manufactured and is not bear bile. This drug is very effective. However, my recommendation would be to use this drug for conditions such as gallstones, mainly cholesterol generated stones. I also recommend this as a preventative measure for those who are overweight and losing weight rapidly. These are natural occurrences that happen in your body. There is a reason why this drug is an Rx drug. It's used for serious conditions such as Cirrhosis of the liver, Chronic liver disease and even liver transplants rely on it to prevent rejection.
The way UDCA works is by increasing bile flow from the gallbladder to the intestine. Bile is quite toxic if flow is hindered. It decreases the amount of cholesterol your liver generates and decreases cholesterol from food. This is why it's such a great drug for preventing cholesterol stones.
Now, I know everyone is thinking of that other thread about liver protection and how it says nothing is greater. However, that thread also says there has been research on liver protection from steroids using UDCA. Please take special note of the word "research", not study. The reason I mention this is because I do not recommend long-term use of UDCA. Especially in steroid -induced liver damage cases from long cycles. If you use it, it's best used on cycle and discontinued. Either way, we know it works.
In conclusion: Yes, UDCA is very effective for use while on a steroid cycle. However, it's use is limited and does not offer benefits in other areas.
NAC: N-Acetyl Cysteine
NAC is derived from the Amino Acid; L-Cysteine. Most of you already know that this Over the Counter product is my choice. It's readily available and it's cheap. You take it for your liver, but NAC's uses and areas of benefit would shock even some of the more educated users. I'll go as far as saying many doctors are unaware of how powerful this drug really is. Let's have a look...
I'll cover the liver first since that's the main concern for us. NAC can prevent all types of damage to the liver. Whether it's alcohol damage or steroid-induced damage. NAC is a precursor for Glutathione, one of the most powerful antioxidants available in our bodies and it's very stable. Similar to UDCA, it also provides aid in bile flow and lowers elevated enzymes. Not quite as effective in the presence of stones, however, can be an effective preventative measure for cholesterol generated stones.
Here's a list of benefits NAC can provide your body:
01. Powerful antioxidant
02. Counteracts poisons (carbon monoxide, acetaminophen)
03. Treats Lung infections (bronchitis, influenza, obstructive pulmonary... yes, even you dang smokers)
04. Treats acute liver failure
05. Treats Ear infections
06. Lowers cholesterol
07. Increased immunity
08. Has a role in Energy
09. Aids with psychiatric conditions (depression, obsession, addictions)
10. Prevents kidney stones
11. Protects muscle tissue (post workout recovery)
12. Improves insulin sensitivity (gbrice!)
13. Treats stomach infections
14. Defends against stomach-ulcer causing bacteria.
15. Seriously? You're still reading? Go get some NAC!
This is why I choose NAC. It will protect my liver just as good as UDCA, but its overall benefits are unbelievable.
Doses up to 2000mg daily for prolonged periods have shown no ill effects. Doses up to 2800mg were proven safe for several months. However, we want to use NAC year round.
How to dose NAC:
600mg daily year round. Increase to 1200mg for an injectable steroid cycle. Increase to 1800mg - 2400mg in the presence of oral steroids . Obviously use the lower dose for mildly toxic steroids such as Anavar , and the heavier dose for toxic steroids such as Dianabol .
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06-22-2013, 06:50 PM #538
another great post !!
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Austinite, you rock man . Tks awesome info.
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Hey brother, please disregard the PM I sent you last night. I figured it out. I dug out every form of measuring I have. Tablespoons, teaspoons, etc.. Measure and weigh... Measure and weigh... However there's a sticky in the Anabolic labs sections on how to cap your own AAS. I think that someone that's mastered capping their own OTC supplements should post a... How to cap your own amino's, vitamins etc... With easy math formula's too. And since you have changed from capping to mixing it in water, maybe a brief overview on that as well.
Please and thank you.
Stayed up and read all 14 pages last night, but I'm sure that I will still have to just print it out and put it into a three ring binder for later use.
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Balls... I forgot that I had a question...
HGW...
Which do you recommend... Epimedium or icariin?
Or both
And why?
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06-23-2013, 09:48 AM #542
Horny goat weed (HGW) is a common name for the plants in the genus Epimedium; therefore they are equivalent. Icariin is a compound derived from HGW. If I recall correctly, icariin is the compound in HGW that is primarily responsible for the reputed health benefits. In other words, if you buy HGW; then you are automatically getting Epimedium and icariin. Some products of HGW may add additional icariin however.
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06-24-2013, 09:54 AM #548
austinite
would there be any reason not to take vit c, vit e, vit d and methyl B12 post training for recovery (from intense mma and muay thai training) with my whey isolate and carbs?
if so how and when would you recommend i take them?
cheers
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06-26-2013, 07:41 AM #550
hey aust, I am training sometimes twice a day and wanting to know if I should do your pre-/post workout supplements twice or only once. just started them yesterday and really liked the focus I had this morning. only thing I saw that I was missing was l-methionine from the pre-worklout stack. I also included your fat loss stack with these and had no jitters at all this morning, and they were all taken on am empty stomach and I did fasted cardio this morning and felt like I had more energy still in the tank!
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awesome this!
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06-26-2013, 03:43 PM #553
yes, you are correct. one is usually a weight/resistance training and the other is cardio (usually a road bike ride in which I incorporate some sprints, try to do 20 miles in an hour for now). i am just doing the NAC and Vit C. post workout. just wondering if the other preworkout was an overkill. thanks!
i actually have supplemented up to 10g daily of Vit C and really felt good. there was an old thread in the nutrition section (maybe 2 years ago?) about a guy doing over 13g a day and was really loving the health benefits. i try to take at least 3g a day, and to note, i am the only one not sniffling in my office!
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06-26-2013, 04:20 PM #555Originally Posted by austinite
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06-26-2013, 08:29 PM #556Junior Member
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Austinite, do you mind reposting your fat loss stack again. I'm sorry but I looked all over and couldn't find it.
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06-29-2013, 02:28 AM #559
Say hello to methylcobolamin...
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06-29-2013, 03:21 AM #560
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