**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Mp859]

In all honesty I struggle all the time, ive got the devil and angel on each shoulder fighting for dominance. One side small shorter cycles, the other heavy shorter cycles lol its a battle I am pissed off with but I know one thing for sure at my size I need a few mgs to push the boundaries to increase in size, structure and that will hinder my health and joints what are already battered.

So what I do is look at myself and think when I was 270-280 at 5ft 10" I hated it, couldn't find clothes, felt really unhealthy and I found it hard to be mobile and I do need a certain amount of that for certain reason so WHY????? I ask myself. I can maintain my size now on low dose, my diet and my extreme training so why risk health and keep on pushing things. Everywhere I go people ask me about my size, how long have I trained so why should I risk things. That's why I am thinking

Big boy problems.

[marcus300]

Big boy problems.

Ive trained for 28 yrs and some of the stuff ive done and the amount of money ive spent I should be a big boy but we all want to be bigger and better. Ive gone down hill over the years not up hill so I have to look at things objectively. One thing is for sure I wish I never wasted so many years doing some of the shit I did but this game is a constant learning curve

[marcus300]

I have to catch up on this thread..... Yesterday was extremely busy for me.

Goals: 280 10-12% bf. that's assuming I have to put a weight down to quantify a goal. I prefer to look in the mirror and be happy even if it means I'm 230..... Idc what the scale says

That's a big boy if you can get thee mate, at your height in am sure your frame will look amazing at that size, but you already do

[kelkel]

In all honesty I struggle all the time, ive got the devil and angel on each shoulder fighting for dominance. One side small shorter cycles, the other heavy shorter cycles lol its a battle I am pissed off with but I know one thing for sure at my size I need a few mgs to push the boundaries to increase in size, structure and that will hinder my health and joints what are already battered.

So what I do is look at myself and think when I was 270-280 at 5ft 10" I hated it, couldn't find clothes, felt really unhealthy and I found it hard to be mobile and I do need a certain amount of that for certain reason so WHY????? I ask myself. I can maintain my size now on low dose, my diet and my extreme training so why risk health and keep on pushing things. Everywhere I go people ask me about my size, how long have I trained so why should I risk things. That's why I am thinking

Totally agree.

[marcus300]

Totally agree.

What are your long and short term goals Kel

[BG]

Great post !! Im glad this is the direction you have decided to take.

The RISK vs reward isnt there for heavy gear usage. Yes one may get big, but something as in a life change, injury, sickness, I could go on and on, could take it all away in a second. Then would health issues be worth it dont the line? Dying 5-10 years earlier because of steroids and not seeing your grandchildren grow up? Everyone should take a step back, look at what the are doing an honestly ask themselves, are they using or abusing steroids. Ill be nice and help everyone out......its abusing.

All pains have gone now in my bladder things are looking good or better, on medication for 3 months to fully sort it out but doing ok. This week ive started to put weight back on. I did lose a few bit even though I was priming the worry killed the weight and I dropped a few more lbs than I expected so now its just returning nicely.

I wont be cycling heavy again or even in the higher numbers anymore, ive battered my body over the years with this type of training and it does make you an old man before your time, adjustments are needed all the time to help steer away from injuries and if I go on one of my cycles I will most probably destroy my body even further so ive decided to cycle low for maintenance because believe me at my age and size its fuking hard work to carry on putting on size, it takes all my effect to stay this size anyway and I put that down to my training style and constant consistent diet I have, not these ***** diets floating around certain parts of this forum what are meant to be for swimmers or long distance runner, I mean hardcore eating to maintain and build tissue on a bodybuilder who wants to be big ( enough said ) so gentlemen and the ladies who frequent this thread ive decided to low dose cycle in the near future, not sure when but probably be when my weight starts to slow down. Its cold so I may just do a small bulk and my usually short cycle style.

[marcus300]

Great post !! Im glad this is the direction you have decided to take.

The RISK vs reward isnt there for heavy gear usage. Yes one may get big, but something as in a life change, injury, sickness, I could go on and on, could take it all away in a second. Then would health issues be worth it dont the line? Dying 5-10 years earlier because of steroids and not seeing your grandchildren grow up? Everyone should take a step back, look at what the are doing an honestly ask themselves, are they using or abusing steroids. Ill be nice and help everyone out......its abusing.

Good post

[Cuz]

Great post !! Im glad this is the direction you have decided to take.

The RISK vs reward isnt there for heavy gear usage. Yes one may get big, but something as in a life change, injury, sickness, I could go on and on, could take it all away in a second. Then would health issues be worth it dont the line? Dying 5-10 years earlier because of steroids and not seeing your grandchildren grow up? Everyone should take a step back, look at what the are doing an honestly ask themselves, are they using or abusing steroids. Ill be nice and help everyone out......its abusing.

Nicely said BG

[marcus300]

BG, short and long term goals training/ bodybuilder wise?

[kelkel]

What are your long and short term goals Kel

Simple, as I'm no spring chicken and one of the older guys here my goals are to maintain/improve conditioning, longevity and to try and gain a few pounds of LBM along the way. All without getting hurt as I've always trained pretty extreme.

[marcus300]

Simple, as I'm no spring chicken and one of the older guys here my goals are to maintain/improve conditioning, longevity and to try and gain a few pounds of LBM along the way. All without getting hurt as I've always trained pretty extreme.

We're much a like

[BG]

BG, short and long term goals training/ bodybuilder wise?

Pretty much what Kel said. I was out for a while with my surgery, I just got back in peak natural shape. Im going to cycle right now and try to get where I was before injury (after recomp from my show). Ill take 215. Then just grind away at it day by day, every once and a while adding 300mgs of tren to my hrt with 4iu's of gh. That will be all for me. Im not willing to do what it would take to get any further then that and no competing anymore for me. Ill never put my body nor my life through that anymore. Ill be 40 soon, Im content with with my physique....no need to be greedy at this point !

[Giggle]

Sorry - I got called away.
Time under tension. Thank you for the answer - I do understand and will keep it up!

Whats TUT ?

I wouldn't say they extend the set because they are part of the working set so you can put your body under some serious overload and dig into those tough type 2 muscle fibers which only get stimulated when your body is at failure, so those last 2 reps when your at failure will really stimulate those tough fibers what grow the thickness and biggest. What we are aiming for is progression overload so you keep hitting the muscles with an increased weight so they need to change and adapt to the overload its being put under. This kind of continuous stress will have a reaction on the body and it will have no other alternative but to grow. We keep within the right rep range what stimulates the biggest growth and we continuously try and increase the intensity by increasing the reps then once the reps increase you increase the weight to bring the reps down within the correct range again which is 6-12.

[Java Man]

I agree Java used way to much gear which probably took the hormones on a roller coaster ride, side arte a good indicator of using to much and also staying on too long...

Yep . I did. I always get acne on my upper arms though regardless of dose. I'm happy with the results I got. That doesn't mean I'll me doing it again though because I will never let my physique get that our of control again. Doesn't matter. Can we not talk about java's last cycle doses anymore please. It's becoming an embarrassment. I know better.

[Java Man]

Great post !! Im glad this is the direction you have decided to take.

The RISK vs reward isnt there for heavy gear usage. Yes one may get big, but something as in a life change, injury, sickness, I could go on and on, could take it all away in a second. Then would health issues be worth it dont the line? Dying 5-10 years earlier because of steroids and not seeing your grandchildren grow up? Everyone should take a step back, look at what the are doing an honestly ask themselves, are they using or abusing steroids. Ill be nice and help everyone out......its abusing.

Very nice BG. I did this reflection on my last run. It isn't worth it.

[BG]

Yep . I did. I always get acne on my upper arms though regardless of dose. I'm happy with the results I got. That doesn't mean I'll me doing it again though because I will never let my physique get that our of control again. Doesn't matter. Can we not talk about java's last cycle doses anymore please. It's becoming an embarrassment. I know better.

No worries buddy, nobody was taking a shot at you, just looking guide you in a safe direction. NO MORE TALK ABOUT IT !!!

[Igifuno]

Ive trained for 28 yrs and some of the stuff ive done and the amount of money ive spent I should be a big boy but we all want to be bigger and better. Ive gone down hill over the years not up hill so I have to look at things objectively. One thing is for sure I wish I never wasted so many years doing some of the shit I did but this game is a constant learning curve

are you referring to high doses for the most part?

[Java Man]

No worries buddy, nobody was taking a shot at you, just looking guide you in a safe direction. NO MORE TALK ABOUT IT !!!

Lol. I know. Its one of the many things I love about this particular thread and why I spend the bulk of my forum time here. We all have each others backs

It's embarrassing that at my age I'm experimenting like that. I knew it was stupid when I was doing it but I was transforming so quickly and so well I ventured into abuse dosages. I do realize that. I got BW and a liver scan last week. All normal. It scared me when I realized I'm not 23, I'm 43. I have no illusions about someday being a mass monster that will never happen and that's ok. I've got no business doing that crap. Luckily I did no damage (confirmed) and I can tell my natural test has kicked back infor some reason... Lord knows I deserve to be on trt with my history.

Ok NOW we won't talk about it anymore lol. I had to reassure you guys that my head is not up my butt. Anymore??

Future goals for marcus:

Maintain the mass I have, get to the point where I can see my abs. I don't need to be single digits. If I can get to and maintain around 10 - 12% I'd be stoked.

2ndary goal is gain mass no matter how small the amount while keeping at the above bf% and stay healthy in the process.

[Java Man]

I'll let you guys decide what I train tonight.

anything but back. Did that day before yesterday.

[Igifuno]

Ooh Nice.. How about chest/bis?

[Hazard]

I'll let you guys decide what I train tonight.

anything but back. Did that day before yesterday.

Legs lol

[Hazard]

Ooh Nice.. How about chest/bis?

That was my first choice but I took it back lol

[Java Man]

Ooh Nice.. How about chest/bis?

Legs lol

I need to train legs but that's why I put the question here... I'm not up to it tonight I'm afraid. i'll warm up and see how I feel then. If I think my legs will get a crappy deal I'll train bi's and chest, otherwise put my guts into legs.

PS I just ate a bunch of chicken wings and a full plate of beans so legs are out of the question

[AD]

its sunday night isn't it? take a break mate

[Capebuffalo]

its sunday night isn't it? Take a break mate

x2^^^^

[Hazard]

I was thinking that.....


I've got my feet up in the recliner. The princess is down to sleep, I ate about 20oz of chicken lol, I just watched the walking dead, and I'm going to continue to sit with my feet up until I'm tired enough for bed :-)

[Igifuno]

Just weighed in at 208.. Gettin a lil uncomfy. Lol. Too much too fast I think. Definitely should have done cardio today and need to push it back up to 20-30 mins as opposed to the 10 mins I've been doing.

Heaviest ever in my life right now.

[Hazard]

Just weighed in at 208.. Gettin a lil uncomfy. Lol. Too much too fast I think. Definitely should have done cardio today and need to push it back up to 20-30 mins as opposed to the 10 mins I've been doing.

Heaviest ever in my life right now.

Putting it on quick takes a toll. I got winded walking up stairs lol. It gets uncomfortable to sleep too

Ill be introducing cardio into my routine in feb/mar when I start my cut

[Cuz]

C

Just weighed in at 208.. Gettin a lil uncomfy. Lol. Too much too fast I think. Definitely should have done cardio today and need to push it back up to 20-30 mins as opposed to the 10 mins I've been doing.

Heaviest ever in my life right now.

Well done, just make sure it is quality gains. you cant build muscle ....pounds of muscle over night. Otherwise you will deflate just as quickly as you gained. I know you know all this buddy, just a reminder.

By the way, I know you are on test and tren right, are you also on oral?

[Igifuno]

Putting it on quick takes a toll. I got winded walking up stairs lol. It gets uncomfortable to sleep too

Ill be introducing cardio into my routine in feb/mar when I start my cut

whatwhatwhaaaaaaat? hahaa.

My BP was fine sitting downstairs and i took it again after walking upstarirs and it was 156/43.. hmmmm..

[Igifuno]

C

Well done, just make sure it is quality gains. you cant build muscle ....pounds of muscle over night. Otherwise you will deflate just as quickly as you gained. I know you know all this buddy, just a reminder.

By the way, I know you are on test and tren right, are you also on oral?

not yet but have t-bol and winny on deck for this cycle. T-bol starts this week and winny later.

Haz, I know we discussed dbol before but I'm going with tbol instead

[Cuz]

I took a break also today and actually "lived" a little while. Diet was off today didn't need to train anyway. Oh well, I needed a break and a reality check. Done me good. The machine will be back up and running though tomorrow.

[kelkel]

whatwhatwhaaaaaaat? hahaa.

My BP was fine sitting downstairs and i took it again after walking upstarirs and it was 156/43.. hmmmm..

That's not safe Igi.

[Cuz]

are you sure that was an accurate reading IG?

[AD]

could just be transient, due to the change in posture and exertion (walking up stairs) lol

sit still upstairs for 5-10mins and check again.

[kelkel]

sit still for 5-10mins and check again.

Exactly what my doctor says during my yearly DRE. Not sure why.

[AD]

Exactly what my doctor says during my yearly DRE. Not sure why.

get a female dr, and you'll be the one telling her to sit still...

[Igifuno]

That's not safe Igi.

Not happy about it. If I sit still for 5 minutes, its fine - 135/76, 124/68, but when I take a short walk upstairs, I'm winded and BP seems to jump beyond where I want it for that kind of exersion.

Tren is in the mix, which may be a contributing factor. Also, I'm monitoring my BP ed because the hgh I have is not pharm grade and, although sides are prevelant, it may be an anti-diuretic which can increase BP significantly.

Was just talking to the big man about this earlier today. I'm inclined to junk it.. this has just come on (getting winded) over the past couple of days.

[Igifuno]

are you sure that was an accurate reading IG?

It's a home monitoring device so.. it very well may be off but I would think not by much.

[Cuz]

Not happy about it. If I sit still for 5 minutes, its fine - 135/76, 124/68, but when I take a short walk upstairs, I'm winded and BP seems to jump beyond where I want it for that kind of exersion.

Tren is in the mix, which may be a contributing factor. Also, I'm monitoring my BP ed because the hgh I have is not pharm grade and, although sides are prevelant, it may be an anti-diuretic which can increase BP significantly.

Was just talking to the big man about this earlier today. I'm inclined to junk it.. this has just come on (getting winded) over the past couple of days.

Keep us updated man. That's a very big gap in numbers.