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    Quote Originally Posted by slowpoison View Post
    he will when hes able to might be caught up in something
    True..I have a lot on my plate right now with my wife laid up recovering from a double-level-foot fusion surgery. Here's a photo of her x-rays post surgery performed 6 weeks ago. We hope to have her back to work in 6 more weeks and training lower body in 4 months..She can start training upper body in 6 weeks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
    True..I have a lot on my plate right now with my wife laid up recovering from a double-level-foot fusion surgery. Here's a photo of her x-rays post surgery performed 6 weeks ago. We hope to have her back to work in 6 more weeks and training lower body in 4 months..She can start training upper body in 6 weeks..
    WOW!! That's some intricate orthopedic work there!!! Good luck to Kathy on that one!! Coming back stronger than hell I bet. I'm completely injury free right this second for the first time in a couple of years. You can't take that for granted!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    ronnie, do you have any experience with ipamorelin? I do not. I can only recommend pharm grade GH and deca for your problem. i am wondering if it will help out with my rotator cuff issue. both my rotator cuffs are shot from falling with my arms out. do not think there is a tear or anything, just think that my ligaments/tendons are stretched/elongated. It sounds like you have tendonosis (not tendonitus which eventually clears up) from repeated micro tears. I suggest you have an mri to find out what's going on inorder to get a piece of mind.. i just started out on the rubber bands for strenghthening, but what do you know from your experience about peptides and this type of healing. IGF-1 can certainly help over the long haul as can deca. thanks
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    [QUOTE=Kenlie;6071436]Ronnie, what are the best injection times? After getting out of the shower.Is it better to inject in the morning? Before or after workouts? After a workout can be best for some because when they inject a muscle before training it this can cause painful swelling that interferes with trainign that particular muscle. However, injecting a muscle immediatedly before a workout makes it get larger when pumped given it does not cause you too much pain. You will have to experiment to see which category you fall into.

    Also, if I have my shoulder day, is it good idea to inject to my shoulder before the workout, or should I not inject to shoulder anywhere near the time of workout? Injecting before training is great given it does not create pain. Some people get excessive swelling and soreness in that area making them have to inject post workout. If you can tolerate your injections prior to training in the side delts it will increase your pump and help stetch out the muscle's fascia some.

    I've been injecting to thighs and shoulders, but I think I will try to inject glutes, because it stings like crazy when injecting thighs...Thigh injections cripple some people. Try pec shots 1 inch above nipple and glutes.[/QUOTE]above
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by finebody View Post
    ron,

    i am 32 and i have took many cycles and i also realized that my gains stops in week 7-8 then i lose most afterwards if i dont eat/train properly, so i want to try this sling method so please tell me what do you think about this:

    Phase 1:
    Reload: Weeks 1-3 danabol 30mg/day you will make more gains by keeping d-bol in for entire 8 weeks.
    reload: Weeks 1-7 test enanthate 500 mgs [b](increase to 750 mgs)[/b
    ]deload: Weeks 8-9 test enathate 250 mgs

    phase 2:
    reload: Weeks 10-12 danabol 30mg/day increase d-bol to 50 mgs daily. you will make more gains by keeping d-bol in for entire 8 weeks
    reload: Weeks 10-16 test enanthate 500 mgs and deca 200 mgs and bolden 250mgs increase test to 1 gram per week. Drop eq as there's no need using it unless you are trying to increase your appetite to gain weight and this does not work for everyone because eq can actually decrease appetite for some users along with causing severe anxiety. Also, you need 600-800 mgs of eq weekly to make any noticeable gains. I would substitute EQ for 300 mgs of masterone weekly to help eliminate excess estrogen levels and help sex drive!
    Deload: Weeks 17-18 test enathate 250 mgs

    pct : Weeks 19-23
    hcg at 1500 iu eod for 2 weeks increase this to 3 weeks
    clomid at 50 mgs once per day for 4 weeks not really needed
    nolva 20 mgs per day for 4 weeks not needed since you are not using anti-es during your cycle but if hcg has causes you to have gyno issues in past then use it during pct.

    1- what do you think about the dosage and periods, any changes needed? above
    2- should i train normally again in pct as in reloads (12 sets/big body part/week)? i would drop sets down to around 8 sets during pct due to being in somewhat of a catabolic state.

    thanks in advance!
    above and sorry for the delay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
    above and sorry for the delay!
    BIG Thanks for taking the time to reply, but just one thing is not clear!

    If i drop the eq, and add Masterone then should i increase the deca ?

    Thanks again!

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    Wow. My first day in this forum and I am very impressed. Thank you Ronnie for a quality post that is informative and well written. You oviously are a dedicated athelete and I appreciate your commitment to this forum. Great job!

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    with the 20 week method of STS

    week 1-8 600mg test 400 mast
    week 9-10 300mg test 200 mast
    week 11-18 750mg test? 600 mast
    week 19-20 300mg test? 0 mast?

    still torn between winny and anavar , anavar at the price is expensive but id prefer to run var over Winny. and conflicting stories on how long you can run both compounds. not sure if STS is oral friendly, but id like to run the var at 60-80 mg a day. this is my 5th cycle but i haven't cycled in 3 years. This is for lean body recomp not so much a "cutter"

    thanks in advance and ill wait patiently for your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    why are some saying keep test in for a show..why do you say drop it???? Test causes you to hold water and some feel you come in fuller if you keep it in until show time. I do not agree with this protocol because it's only unwanted water retention. I do not understand why anyone would want to go into a show using testosterone when trenbolone will do everything test does without causing water retention and allowing you to come in dry!
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    [QUOTE=VASCULAR VINCE;6060493]thoughts on shitloading and consuming dairy... morning of show??? Not smart as it will cause your stomach to bloat out. /QUOTE]above

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    when judges tell compeitors...they placed lower from holding some water...is this true??? or false???? Sometimes it is true due to a poor pre-contest prep. I think most of the time the judges don't want to hurt peoples feelings (especially females) by telling them they are still carrying body fat knowing they will become offended and argumentative after all the effort they put into dieting down for the show-hence one reason so many people sadly started using diurectics!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    best diurectic to use???? Diurectics are not needed! But if I was going to ever recommend a diurectic it would be only a half a tab of dyazide the night before a the show when you cut off water because it works fast and at that dosage it would not have time to severely block aldosterone levels or lower blood pressure in excess-hence avoiding the act of destroy pump and vascularity to a large degree in some cases . I would not use spirolactone as it needs to be used about 7 days to become most effective and it's known to cause one to go flat. I would not use aldactone because it takes about 3 days to become effective and it also causes you to go flat . Lasix is the worst of all.


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    Hey Ronnie I would appreciate your advice since you seem to be the man around here. Ive been contemplating starting my first cycle of AAS. My stats are 23 years old, 6', 196 lbs, about 16% body fat, training for 5 years. I have some sustanon 350 and Equipoise 200. I have done my research and there is just too much information available (some good, most bad) that its beginning to confuse me. What do you recommend as a good starting dosage for the sustanon and Eq? Your reply is anxiously awaited and greatly appreciate.

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    ronnie should i take dbol for two weeks while test e kicks in??. I am in my second week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    why is 3 day carb load...goingto into a show... so popular???? They mistakenly think tons of carbs is what fills you out and make you look vascular when it actually water and salt. is it wrong???? It's not wise unless you want to chance spilling over. Best to carb up earlier in the week so that adjustments can me made if need be. Those who do a massive carb load late in the week usually spill over and there's no fixing that!
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    [QUOTE=VASCULAR VINCE;6060510]what if someone has a very fast metabolism...cannot stay carbed up fully.. with huge carb load....on tues before a sat show??????? They will need to carb load on both tuesday and wednesday![/QUOTE]above

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    Quote Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE View Post
    bigron...do endormorphs lose more muscle...dieting down for show..compared to mesomorphs???? Yes because they have to lose muscle elsewhere to get their abs cut. The best thing an endomorph can do to hold onto as much muscle as possible while dieting down is to do it more gradually because doing it over a 12 week period like a mesomorph will cause too much muscle loss. An endomorph will usually need to diet down very slow for 4-6 months before a show. An ecto-meso can get by with as little as 6 weeks.
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    after re reading your program a few times. I am curious if training a body part twice a week as you said is something to consider. is OK in a push and a pull day x 2 a week, keeping sets at 12 per body part and each body part is hit 2 times in a week. so (push pull off push pull off off) and as you said having a low volume phase and high volume phase in teh same week.

    thank you.

    Also did you ever put this into a pdf?

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    Ron,

    If you were me and had only 2 carbs meals in low-carb day, what would you choose for the best time? The workout time is in the evening after finishing work at office (around 6 PM).
    Breakfast and Post-Workout? or Breakfast and Pre-Workout?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Ron,

    If you were me and had only 2 carbs meals in low-carb day, what would you choose for the best time? The workout time is in the evening after finishing work at office (around 6 PM).
    Breakfast and Post-Workout? or Breakfast and Pre-Workout?
    I'm interested here too Ron. I always assumed to put the both in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery
    after re reading your program a few times. I am curious if training a body part twice a week as you said is something to consider. is OK in a push and a pull day x 2 a week, keeping sets at 12 per body part and each body part is hit 2 times in a week. so (push pull off push pull off off) and as you said having a low volume phase and high volume phase in teh same week.

    thank you.

    Also did you ever put this into a pdf?
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    bigron...true or false...ectomorphs recovery is faster needing more training volume..and..endomorphs recovery slower.. needing higher reps .....and less training volume????

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    [QUOTE=slowpoison;6078275]
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    thanks for the info Ron.
    the prob is not there while bending or sitting.
    I have in any case dropped the dbol after 4 weeks.
    Equipoise could be the cause now that you've said it. of late i'd been feeling immensely dehydrated while working out, and thats the time I also start feeling breathless. any possible/known cure/remedy for this? or whats an alternative to epoise? Switch over to using pharm grade steroids only. Some underground labs contains impurities causing anaphylactic type symptoms. Also, keep an albuterol inhaler on hand at all times whenever you train, get your heart rate elevated, or get out in humid weather because you may be developing asthma from the steroids or just from some sort of chemical change going on in your body. Tren affects many people like this but impure steroids and excess water retention can as well. [/COLOR]
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    Quote Originally Posted by massbuilders View Post
    Also, should i keep taking .50mg of adex e3d?. Continue adex e3d because your testis are going to shut down coming off test while not using HCG and you will become estrogen dominant without the adex! Only side effects that i got from my test e and var cycle was some face acne. So what cycle would you recommend, i really dont want harsh side effects. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massbuilders View Post
    ronnie, nice article bro. I just got done with my first gear consisted of test e and var at 75 per day. I did 15 week cycle. I am supposed to start nova tomo. Can i just do nova at 40mg for two weeks? you need to be doing 20 week cycles not 15 imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenlie View Post
    FINALLY!... THE ROCK HAS COME BACK TO... err I mean.... finally... I am starting my second reload week, and my question is this... is it just the hot weather, or should I be feeling much hotter than "naturally"? It's normal to feel hotter than normal while on cycle, especially upfront when hormones are on the rise. I feel like I am sweating all than time... I am doing 750gm susta per week, currently running 250mg tuesday mornings, thursday mornings, and saturday (midday).... it feels like in sauna. I would think that my body is working in higher revs, or am I just imagining+hot weather?
    I plan to run this 8 weeks like this, then 250 for 2 weeks... should I actually split that 250 to 2x125?, since susta is shorter duration test? Inject 250 mgs 3 times per week- tuesday, thursday and saturday is fine)I will inc dose to 1000mg for second 8 week reload, and then I am the king of the world in the week 20.... yeah... right... Bump it to 1250 for second 8 week reload. TUES-500-THURS-250-SAT-500
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    Quote Originally Posted by massbuilders View Post
    so ronnie, i only have nova right now, but i am supposed to start taking in right now.

    Hence you said nova is not good, i have test e vials and no anavar . But i can get anavar within 4 days. So how much test e should i start taking right away without pct, how much anavar?. go back to the dosages you where using with var, add another 500 mgs of test-e to your prior dosage and use for another 8 weeks to complete an 8 week reload. Then after 8 weeks drop var and reduce test-e to 250 mgs weekly for 2 weeks (deload). Next begin using hcg at 2500 ius eod for 21 days. Go ahead and run the nolvadex or arimidex for 4 weeks post cycle. also i am going to order hcg, please tell me what dosage i have to take it in with. Hopefully i dont get fully shutdown by not doing pct : (.
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    [QUOTE=Kenlie;6071596]Maybe we are talking about different thing?

    The injection itself doesn't hurt at all. I use 1" needle and I don't feel a thing 10 minutes after injection, but it's the pain that comes 1-2 days later which is massive, when injecting thighs. Quite normal and the very reason some cannot do quad injections.[/QUOTE]above

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Here's a couple of pictures progress after my last 8 week blast. This is 255 lbs. 6'2". As always, thanks to Ron You look really big and lean now..Great work Titan!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69thelememt View Post
    Hey man, great initial post! I like the sound of longer cycles or at least trying one to see if i can solidify and keep gains a lot better than the yo yo effect of smash and grab cycles.

    I was supposed to be doing the following cycle, which i'm now coming to the end of the first week of:

    Week 1-12 test p.9mg ED
    Week 1-12 tren A .6ED
    Weeks 1-12 anavar 100 - 150mg ED (50mg pill)
    Weeks 2-12 T3 50mgs ED
    Armidex .5mg EOD weeks 2 -12

    only thing now is our lass has booked us a holiday on 25th Aug for a 1 week which will land around the end of week 8 of the cycle,
    This was due to be a bulk cycle but with the holiday coming i've downed the cals to 2500 protein at 325 and decided to cut (BF is around 20% at moment).

    as i don't fancy taking 2 virals, 7 syringes and 14 needles with me, i was thinking i could just take aload of anavar, and use these 2 weeks for HRT/crusing and then carry on when i get back

    my standard PCT is high clomid and nolva along with a smash HCG last 2-3 weeks of cycle

    can anyone help me with adjusting the cycle, the HRT amounts required for the deload and also if i did the first 8 weeks as above, 2 lesser weeks, then 8 weeks again maybe with some masteron or higher dose, could i then go onto a final 8 weeks bulking cycle??

    Anyone had any results with this method??

    THANKS
    [B]I cannot answer your question because I do not understand the dosages you have listed but I can tell you running longer acting esters like test-e or test-c is much more user friendly than injecting test-p daily..[/B]above

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judah View Post
    If I'm not comfortable being constantly "on", what's the best way to keep my gains after ceasing the following cycle:

    500mg a week of Test-E along with 800mg a week of Primo for 10 weeks.

    Should I shorten my cycle from 10 weeks to 8 weeks ? I would keep the test/primo cycle at an 8 week reload then do a 2 week deload using only 200 mgs of test-e weekly. Following the deload do a full pct using hcg at 2500 ius eod for 3 weeks. Keep up a good diet and training program and you will maintain as much as you possibly can.There's not anything else you can do other than go on HRT permanetly when off cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    WOW!! That's some intricate orthopedic work there!!! Good luck to Kathy on that one!! Coming back stronger than hell I bet. I'm completely injury free right this second for the first time in a couple of years. You can't take that for granted!! I know what you mean. When you get past 40 years of age you begin to realize how lucky you are when able to train as a bodybuilder without debilitating pain..
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    Quote Originally Posted by fineBody View Post
    BIG Thanks for taking the time to reply, but just one thing is not clear!

    If i drop the eq, and add Masterone then should i increase the deca ? I would not increase deca because it will lower your libido significantly even while using test and mast.
    Thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorhiney View Post
    wow. My first day in this forum and i am very impressed. Thank you ronnie for a quality post that is informative and well written. You oviously are a dedicated athelete and i appreciate your commitment to this forum. Great job!
    thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    with the 20 week method of sts

    week 1-8 600mg test 400 mast
    week 9-10 300mg test 200 mast
    week 11-18 750mg test? 600 mast increase test to 1 gram weekly..everything else looks great!week 19-20 300mg test? 0 mast?

    Still torn between winny and anavar , anavar at the price is expensive but id prefer to run var over winny. And conflicting stories on how long you can run both compounds. Not sure if sts is oral friendly, but id like to run the var at 60-80 mg a day. Yes you can use orals with STS! This is my 5th cycle but i haven't cycled in 3 years. This is for lean body recomp not so much a "cutter" [B]winstrol is somewhat more effective than anavar but i personally would go with anavar because it's more user friendly on the joints. Combining masteron and winstrol will really dry out your joints and cause pain for many. I would not use masteron and winstrol without using some deca to help counteract joint pain. A test/mast/var combo is great for getting shredded! [/b]

    thanks in advance and ill wait patiently for your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massbuilders View Post
    ronnie should i take dbol for two weeks while test e kicks in?? You can but for optimal gains you need to run d-bol along with test for the entire 8 week reload..A test/d-bol combo is going to produce more gains than test alone if you can handle the side effects. Some people feel great with that combo while others feel very lethargic and have a decrease in libido. I am in my second week.
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    [QUOTE=Eman89;6083038]Hey Ronnie I would appreciate your advice since you seem to be the man around here. Ive been contemplating starting my first cycle of AAS. My stats are 23 years old, 6', 196 lbs, about 16% body fat, training for 5 years. I have some sustanon 350 and Equipoise 200. I have done my research and there is just too much information available (some good, most bad) that its beginning to confuse me. What do you recommend as a good starting dosage for the sustanon and Eq? Your reply is anxiously awaited and greatly appreciate. Do not use EQ on your first cycle! Use sustanon at around 750 mgs weekly. If using test-e or test-c 500mgs weekly will suffice.[/QUOTE]above

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    after re reading your program a few times. I am curious if training a body part twice a week as you said is something to consider. is OK in a push and a pull day x 2 a week, keeping sets at 12 per body part and each body part is hit 2 times in a week. so (push pull off push pull off off) and as you said having a low volume phase and high volume phase in teh same week. Sorry I do not have a pdf. You could do a push- pull routine training each body part twice a week. 4-6 sets twice a week per muscle group is what you need to do! Do not do 8-12 sets twice a week or you will over-train..

    thank you.

    Also did you ever put this into a pdf?
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    You could do a push- pull routine training each body part twice a week. 4-6 sets twice a week per muscle group is what you need to do! Do not do 8-12 sets twice a week or you will over-train..
    Sorry , yes i would do maximum 12 sets total per body part in that week. NOT twice a week.

    1.) IS full body push pull training 4 times a week inferior to a 4 -5 day isolated body part split? In your experience??

    2.) You talk about twice a week training with a heavy day and regular day, Question about this!! If you are familiar with Brian Haycocks HST training that never really took off in the body building world but has some great principles. Instead of changing the volume in the same week, can i d0 1-2 weeks of high volume then switch to 1-2 weeks low volume etc. Using linear progression to always be adding more weight each session to my lifts untill i stall and have to reset? or is weekly UD superior?

    3.) I am doing 16/8 fasting for my lifestyle choice and carb cycling. And depletion training on my "low carb days" with in my carb cycling. Now with that said, When on a blast using your STS principles. can i still...

    a.) fast 16 hours daily and have that 8 hour window to get calories in?

    b.) Have 50g carbs( fibrous greens only) low days consecutively 3 days a week followed by a refeed and 3 moderate (maintenance carbs)

    4.) In terms of raising calories as i grow, while anabolic . How often should i be revamping my tdee? every .5 kg or 1 kg? of weight gained? or do i really have to dig deeper and only raise it based on "LBM" gained?

    5.) The old school approach of being 500 calories over maintenance to grow, in your opinion using STS and Blasting for 1 year using body recomp principles how many calories over maintenance should i be trying to achieve?

    6.) Looking a head for a year of my outline of anabolic use and was thinking of linear dosage and was wondering if you think these numbers would work , please bare with me if this makes me look like a chump.

    Reload 1 450mg Test E & 400mg Masteron

    Reload 2 600mg Test E & 600mg Masteron

    Reload 3 750mg Test E & 700mg Masteron

    Reload 4 900mg Test E & 800mg Masteron

    Reload 5 1050mg Test E & 900mg Masteron

    7.) With a year of reloads, is the 2 week deload enough to reset the myostatin protein further into the year i go? So if i was on my 3-4 reload is 2 weeks enough of a deload to clear myostatin?

    8.) Your thoughts on static deconditioning while anabolic, am i wasting money and thinking like a monkey if i wanna do a static deconditioning say during the third Deload for 10 days?

    9.) With Test and mast Reloads for a long period of time, what is the maximum Body fat % i should start my years anabolic and STS training journey at?


    Thanks Alot Ronnie, this knowledge will go along way!!

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