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07-30-2012, 09:28 PM #4281
That's great, Big Ron..
I'll do as what you said.
My usual schedule is I workout at 6 PM in the evening (after finishing work at office). I train for 1 hour and do low-moderate intensity cardio (120-130BPM) for 25-30 minutes then post-workout at 7.30 PM I have 50 gram protein from good quality whey protein isolate.
Then 45-60 minutes later (about 8:15 PM), I have a dinner consists of 9 oz of boneless chicken breast + 1 cup of steamed broccoli + 1 tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil (since you recommend taking out carb post-workout).
My last meal of the day is at 11 PM which consists of 1 scoop of whey protein isolate + 1 cup egg whites + 1 whole egg + 1 tablespoon of peanut butter.
Right after finishing meal, I go to bed at 11.15 PM
My concern is does the fat content of last 2 meals at night affect the GH release & blunt the GH?
How does it compared to if I incorporate carbs at dinner (2 slices of whole wheat bread) but removing the extra virgin olive oil?
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07-31-2012, 05:45 AM #4282
Hey Ron whats up bud,
Im taking about 6-8 weeks off from my last 14 week cut "i cruise on 250". Do you think 6 weeks is enough or should i give my body a longer break? Ive been on for a while.
Ive come the the realization that i wont run test higher then 600 or my hair sheds like im on chemo.
Here is what i got for my next blast and i want your opinion on the best way to run under my circumstances.
I have 150 25mg Tbol caps
Test enth " as much as i need"
2 vials of Eq300 "never ran eq because i heard its a waste but willing to try.
Deca 250 as much as i need.
Help me put together a nice blast. My thoughts now are something like....
week 1-8
Test 500mg
Tbol 75mg a day until run out.
Should i put EQ in here? I would have enough for 750mg for 8 weeks? or save for last 8?
Weeks 11-18
Test 600
Deca 500?
I keep caber on hand not worried about sexual performance.. hasnt been hard on me yet with deca.
how would you put what i have on hand for a nice blast..?
Ive done a few Blasts so far and put on about 20lb of mass in the last 2 years so im pretty happy. I am a small frame with more of a physique body but im ok with that.
ive learned that cardio even while bulking keeps me leaner "3 days a week 45min"
I also learned "from you and Tom Venutos book burn the fat feed the muscle" That keeping my carbs and fats in seperate meals does an amazing job at keeping me lean.
First 3 meals carbs and protein "i train in the AM" and last 3 meals are Protein fats and veggies.
Again thanks for all your help, you have been a blessing.
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08-01-2012, 12:29 PM #4283New Member
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why cant i post anything not using the words they say but still says no
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08-01-2012, 09:54 PM #4286New Member
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Hey Ronnie
Ive started the slingshot program after a 2 week lay off from AAS an training ( I'm assuming is equal to a deload ?) so I've started on the reload program you have posted at the start of this thread with a max of 12 sets ( warmups an prep set [for first exercise only] not inclusive of 12 sets ?? ) but am not 100% sure what split to do for a 5 day training program ( found the one you posted on another site which was chest & calves, back & abs, shoulders & traps, arms, and legs) is this preferable or should I just do 1 group per day?
Also what exercises for the other muscle groups (only saw your chest day sample) and we're the reps an sets still 1-2 warmups 12-15 then 4 x 8-10 working sets is that the same for isolation exercises ?? Thanks again
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08-02-2012, 01:42 AM #4287New Member
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Great post! Thats what I am here for, Thank you.
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08-02-2012, 09:26 PM #4291
Ronnie, first i just want to say thanks! your info is great!
second I was wandering if you have a book out that i could purchase etc?
And I am just about to do a test enenthate/anavar cycle and was wandering if I should do a "anabolic prime" for the first 2 wks after first injection to wait till it kicks in before I start my reload or should I start my 8 week reload and my first shot at the same time?
stats: 31yrs old body type: ectomorphy
planning on taking 500mgs/wk of TEST E for 10 weeks. and anavar 70mgs/day from weeks 5-10 and a pct with nolva/hgc
I am looking into doing a more involved and mesured diet plan this cycle and I am looking for more info to read, any suggestions?Last edited by MADMAX1078; 08-02-2012 at 10:15 PM.
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08-03-2012, 12:19 PM #4292Associate Member
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Okay that sounds good, thanks for the repliy! The reason I thought eq would be good is because i'm more of an ectomorph and it's hard for me to eat as much as I need to.
If i'm on aas I figured I need to up my protein a bit, and i'm at maybe 1.2 grams per lbs now (natural) which is around 210 grams of protein and is around the max I could get. I know it doesn't always increase appetite but I figured I would take the chance, but it's also pricey to use 600 mgs when I could use something else at half the amount with around the same results.
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08-03-2012, 06:00 PM #4293New Member
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I just started a test cycle two weeks ago the first week I took 100 mgs and the second week I took 200mgs and now my nipples are hurting I don't feel any lumps can somebody help me with this I would like to know if anybody have had this?Last edited by Jerseyboy2180; 08-03-2012 at 06:04 PM.
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08-03-2012, 06:12 PM #4294Originally Posted by Jerseyboy2180
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08-03-2012, 10:37 PM #4295Junior Member
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Hey Ron,
Ran Test E and Winny on a 20 week cutting cycle. Had some personal issues go on and took a beating on my funds and now am unable to get my hands on HCG . I do have Nolva and Clomid on hand, would I just run these 2 since I will not be able to get the HCG. This is what I have planned. What will happen that I won't have the HCG and ran a cycle for that long? I'm kind of worried.
Nolva - 40/20/20/20
Clomid - 100/50/50/50
Would you run 6 weeks since no HCG?
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08-03-2012, 10:38 PM #4296Junior Member
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After 20 week cutting cycle my cals were lower then normal to cut bodyfat as low as possible. How would I adjust my diet going into PCT? Run maintenance cals?
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Hey Ron,
I have a question regarding dosing. My last deload started a week ago and I've been using 600 mg of Test E all the time while blasting with other compounds and additional Test P. My last reload was 600 mg Test E/600 mg Test P/800 mg Tren A/700 mg Masteron P/350 mg NPP/50 mg Tbol along with 8 i.u.'s of hgh. This deload I dropped every thing but the 600 mg Test P and rolled the hgh down to 4 i.u.'s.I have not been counting calories and macro's exactly at this point only because I have for so long I'm fairly sure where I am anyway after all this time. I've been using STS for 3 years with incredible results. I'm 6'2" 263lbs+- 47 years old, about 8% BF (here's a front pic, maybe you could guess at it for me) and am on year around except for 4 weeks last year I dropped to 250 mg test E.
My problem is that this time, in the first week of my deload I've lost 12 lbs!! My buddy says he can't tell by looking and maybe it was just water weight, but I wouldn't think Tren masteron and Tbol would make you retain much water. I haven't really changed my diet, except to roll the protein down a little and pick it up with carbs. I'm wondering if at my age and stats if I shouldn't up my deload dose of Test to a gram a week. I know ou say pro's do this and I would never consider myself in their category, but I think I'm pretty big for 8% body fat and maybe I should consider it. 12 lbs is scary to lose that fast after all the hard work. I might add I've not lost much strength, just maybe some reps in the later sets. BTW, my next reload will be 600 mg Test E/850 mg MENT/700 mg Masteron P/ 600 mg Tren E/350 mg NPP/75 mg Var/8 i.u.'s HGH on a 12 week slow cut to 5-6% What do you think about the cycle for my goal? Also about my deload dose? Thanks in advance buddy!Last edited by The Titan99; 08-06-2012 at 02:47 AM.
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08-06-2012, 06:06 AM #4302Associate Member
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Well my somatotype is kind of hard to define - i seem to be ecto ,but not the lean one when i go over 300 gr of carbs i start putting on fat on my belly, I store fat mostly at the waist area as well as the lower chest area while my legs stay extremely lean all the time. It`s hard to put some size on and extremely easy to lose it (except for the legs).
What i`m thinkig of ,for the upcoming Reload, is having for consecutive protein/casbs meals as the last one will be my pre-workout meal ( i`m always hungry during the day). Then just a protein shake immediately post-workout and a solid meal (fish, walnuts, salad) an hour later as this will be pretty much my last meal for the day. Do you think not having carbs postworkout will disrupt my lean muscle growth? Very important quesiton.
Thanks
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08-07-2012, 01:49 AM #4303
No, I don't take both egg whites & whole eggs raw, Ron.. I mix 1 cup of egg whites and 1 whole egg in a bowl and beat them.. Then I lightly cook them in a frying pan (not overcooked).
I am an ecto-endo type person.
If my dinner at 8.15 PM (it's about 45-60 minutes post workout) consists of 9 oz of boneless chicken breast + 1 cup of steamed broccoli + 2 slices of whole wheat bread (substituting the extra virgin olive oil with whole wheat bread), Do you think it blunts the release of GH at night, since I go to bed at 11.15 PM?
But my last meal of the day at 11.00 PM just consists of protein & fats (1 scoop of whey protein isolate + 1 cup egg whites + 1 whole egg + 1 tablespoon of peanut butter).
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[QUOTE=Dtrain17;6099098]Okay that sounds good, thanks for the repliy! The reason I thought eq would be good is because i'm more of an ectomorph and it's hard for me to eat as much as I need to.
If i'm on aas I figured I need to up my protein a bit, and i'm at maybe 1.2 grams per lbs now (natural) which is around 210 grams of protein and is around the max I could get. I know it doesn't always increase appetite but I figured I would take the chance, but it's also pricey to use 600 mgs when I could use something else at half the amount with around the same results. B complex vitamins can help stimulate the apettite and you will probably need to take prilosec for breakfast and dinner to prevent heartburn if thats an issue for you when eating a lot of food. You caould also try just 300 mgs of EQ per week to see if that helps you want to eat more.[/QUOTE]above
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08-08-2012, 04:36 AM #4311New Member
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Should one build off shoulder presses for cannonball deltoids then use isolation movements such as front and side dumbbell raises sparingly?
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08-08-2012, 03:29 PM #4312
Wow! What a read! This makes a lot of sense. I guess I need to incorporate a de-load in my routine!
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08-08-2012, 03:31 PM #4313
This sure gave me a lot to think about!
Great post bro!
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08-09-2012, 06:05 AM #4314Junior Member
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Hey Ronnie, great thread!
I consider myself a Endomorph body type, can gain bodyfat fairly easy etc.
I'm weighing around 200LBS at the moment, 5"7, 25 years old with bodyfat at around 16% i'd estimate. I am currently on cutting cycle consiting of sus & Tren , and used dbol for kickstart.
I'm considering doing a 20 week slingshot cycle as you have outlined. I have done fair few cycles in the past, and I don't feel many side effects however the gear is 100%. I am quite tolerant to most drugs I would say...
I want a pure out lean mass cycle, with maximum muscle gained as possible.., what do do you think of the following for someone with my stats.
The highest mg cycle so far i have ran is Test E @ 750mg, Deca @400mg, DBOL @ 40mg ed.
Week 1-8: Test E - 500mg - 750mg ??
Week 1-8: Deca - 400mg
week 1-8: Dbol - 25mg - 30mg (can I run higher?)
Week 9-10: Test E - 250mg
Week 11-18: Test E - 1000mg
Week 11-18: Deca - 500mg or Tren E - 400mg ?
Week 11-18: Dbol - 50mg ED
Week 19-20 Test E 250mg
Week 21-24: Nolva 20/20/20/20
Week 21-24 Clomid 50/50/50/50
Would these dosages be alright? Or should I up them further.
Should I replace the deca with tren for the full 20 weeks?
Thanks a lot appreciate it.Last edited by bigp87; 08-09-2012 at 06:31 AM.
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08-09-2012, 05:36 PM #4315Junior Member
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08-09-2012, 05:39 PM #4316Junior Member
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Ron,
As stated above been running Test E on cutting cycle for about 15 weeks and will end at 20. I'm still dropping weight through this cycle and solid cutting diet. My question is when i go into PCT will I drop even more weight due to comming off the test and loosing excessive water weight? and will I look more lean then when I'm on the test since I have been holding so much water?
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08-09-2012, 06:37 PM #4317Associate Member
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[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;6104043]Okay thanks, the heartburn shouldn't be a problem and I do take vitamin B complex already as well as B12 with it also. I do 20 mins of cardio 3x/week also but after my workout, maybe do it at a different time to have 2 times a day where my metabolism is increased - for more hunger?
Okay so I know your pct protocol, other guys said hcg at 500 all cycle also but then when you go to pct I heard hcg isn't necessary, just use nolva. I know both ways would work just wondering your thoughts on that! Thanks Big Ron
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08-09-2012, 07:04 PM #4318
Ronny, hey mate would me running 10 weeks on 4 weeks pct then back and so on be a safe way not to shutdown your natural test forever?? Thanks mate
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08-10-2012, 02:55 PM #4319
You put together my cycle under my circumstances i have... Here it is again .
weeks 1-8
Test 500
Tbol 75mg
Weeks 11 -18
Test 400
Deca 400
EQ 400.
Question 1..
Can i up the EQ to 600? I have 300mg EQ in 1cc so it would be easier to measure or is there a reason to stay lower.
Question 2 is about priming before my blast on Aug 27th.
Starting Monday which is 2 weeks out from blast I was going to drop protein in half and either up my carbs or up my fat... Im only at about 23-2400 calories a day maintaining abs and staying lean. I even do cardio 5-6 days a week now at 45 in order to stay lean.... I have a slow metabolism and this maintains my current weight.
Im anywhere from 150-200 carbs most days of the week.. Thursday I do a refeed and get around 400 carbs but i drop protein and fat to keep calories around 24-2600. Then on sundays I eat normal and end the night off with a nice cheat. Monday through Saturday im 100% clean and never cheat.
I just want to try this prime out these coming 2 weeks and see how i do come blast.
I can go higher carbs but i cant go high fats or i put on fat. If i go higher fats i cant do as many carbs or same thing...
So if i drop protein in half and up carbs i will probably be getting less then 30 fats a day the way it will work out. I would be around 350 to 400 carbs 125 Protein and 30-40 fats.. Does this seem ok with you?
If I go higher fat I would be more of a protein veggie fats with pre and post carbs only..
Which do you prefer?? i can stay lean on either scenario and will continue cardio until bulk.
AS far as training I reread your post and it looks like 4-6 sets per body part at 12-15 reps stop few sets before failure?
Just making sure cus normally you dont go so many sets but at a higher rep range with lighter weight maybe its ok?
Thanks Ronnie.
oh one more thing... lower cals on off days?Last edited by slimshady01; 08-12-2012 at 04:31 AM.
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How wonderful, will follow this through
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