You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks Ron, You have helped me a ton over last year or 2 and im greatful.

My Health was good last Decembers blood tests, lets see this December how it looks lol. I can complain that im always lethargic and my sleep recently has sucked. Part of me being tired all the time I think has to do with overuse of Caffeine, pre workout.. EC etc. My adrenals are probably shot. Im sure being on test and other compounds a good portion of the year help that as well but i keep doses mostly low compared to others, give blood, cruise on 250 for 6-8 weeks after blasts etc.

anywhere he is a before pic of me a friend texted me the other day along with 2 newer ones. Its im thinking 5-7 years old and its funny because even back then i thought i was swole when i was a pencil neck skinny boy!! You now have big shoulder and arms for your body structure and that's the two body parts that draw the most attention on a guy. Consider yourself lucky!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

I started taking 20 mg of cialas ed and it seems to have done wonders, and not just for my BP!! !

Cialis is used for the treatment of male erection problems. It is also currently undergoing Phase 3 of clinical trials for the treatment of pulmonary arterial hypertension!

[slimshady01]

Thanks for the compliment..


About my shoulders... My right shoulder somethign is wrong.. I have full range of motion but Bench Press and overhead press like smith machine kills my right shoulder... It hurts more coming down with the weight on say the shoulders press machine then going up..."still hurts going up not as much".. Its like something inside cant supports the weight...

Ive stopped doing over heads for shoulders and still to side raises , reverse cables but I feel like im going to lose size in the one bodypart that looks solid on me.. As benching im going to stick with Decline as this hurts but not as much and i can still go somewhat heavy... I cant do inclines AT ALL...

No idea whats going on because day to day living my shoulder is fine with full range of motion.

Im on a deload now and next week then going to use DECA with lower test.. Im praying this deca will relieve or perhaps heal whatever is going on..

This happened to me years ago but eventually got better..

[mockery]

Hello Ronnie

Question today is HAMMYS, most guy ignore them or dont train them right or dont know they exsist till the judges at a show ask them where their hammys are, In your years of experince what 2 exersices will hammer them the best ? also for myself keeing in mind stiff legged deadlifts are not a good option as i Rack pull 2 times a week and the added stress to my lower back from doing the SLDL is too much for me to handle.

regards.

[Chris_Sweden]

Hey Ronnie,

First of all I want to start with saying THANK YOU for all your posts and info on AAS, PCT, cycles, training, nutrition and so on. Great knowledge, big help!
I've been researching on AAS for about 6 months, about 500 hrs of reading, and planning to start my first (real) cycle in two weeks (first ever cycle was 4 weeks of D-bol + 4 weeks of Winstrol ).
I'm 33 yrs old and a former competitive triathlete, nowadays I do some ironmans ocassionally for fun, so I know all about hard training and suffering :-)
I did some serious weight training in my youth and have been doing maintenance weight training during my time as a triathlete, last year i was 175 lbs/5'7'' at 6% bodyfat, so I have a pretty solid base.
The last 10 months or so, I have gradually increased the weight and intensity to prepare the ligaments and joints for some really heavy weight training on AAS, so know I am ready to go :-)

I would really appreciate your thoughts on my planned training strategy and AAS cycle!

¤ 10 weeks Blast - 8 weeks Reload / 2 weeks Deload.
Reload:
1: 12-15 reps, 3-4 sets.
2: 9-11 reps, 3-4 sets.
3: 6-8 reps, 4-5 sets.
4: 3-5 reps, 4-5 sets.
5-8: same as above.

Deload:
9-10: 15-20 reps, 2-3 sets with LIGHT weights.

I will basically do ONE muscle group per session and ONE session per day. Ie: Back, Shoulders, Chest, Triceps, Biceps, Legs (in that order) and all over again. I usually do 3 separate core sessions each week.
And during every 4 week cycle I will focus on a specific muscle group and do an EXTRA session per week of that muscle group (still in the same rep/set range).
The last 3 blasts I have actually done each muscle group 2 times per week during Reload = 12 sessions, and 1 time during Deload = 6 sessions, and it has worked just fine!
What's your opinion on the two-times-per-muscle-strategy? Is it too much?

¤ 10 weeks AAS/PCT cycle - 8 weeks ON / 2 weeks OFF (PCT).
ON-cycle:
1-6: Methandionone, 30 mg ED.
1-6: Testosterone Cypionate , 500 mg/week (2x250 mg).
7-8: Testosterone Propionate , 500 mg/week (4x125 mg).
(1-8: Proviron , 25 mg ED)
(1-8: Arimidex , 0.5 mg ED)
(1-8: TUDCA, 250-500 mg ED)

I will adjust the Proviron and Arimidex dosage if necessary.
Do I need to switch to Test Prop the last two weeks, or can I go with Test C the whole cycle?
Whats your opinion on the D-Bol, is it safe for the liver to go 6 weeks ON - 4 weeks OFF continuously over a extended period of time?

OFF-cycle (PCT):
9-10: Nolvadex , 40 mg ED first week, 20 mg ED second week.
(Supplements: Tribulus, L-Arginine etc.)

I haven't decided on HCG yet. What do you think, do I need it? During AAS cycle and/or PCT?
During my 4+4 week D-bol/Winstrol cycle I had some serious problems with water retention, hence the Proviron/Arimidex added for upcoming cycle.
I'm planning on doing this 8+2 weeks cycle for 3-4 times, and the last cycle I'll replace the D-bol with Winstrol to get a nice cutting cycle.

I'm not sure what to do during the summer. I like to do some long distance endurance/cardio training such as swimming, biking, running. Should I continnue with the 8+2 cycle? Do a proper PCT and stay OFF? Cruise and try to maintain my gains? What does a good cruising cycle look like?

I think that was all, for now :-)

THANKS AGAIN Ronnie!

/Chris

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hello Ronnie

Question today is HAMMYS, most guy ignore them or dont train them right or dont know they exsist till the judges at a show ask them where their hammys are, In your years of experince what 2 exersices will hammer them the best ? also for myself keeing in mind stiff legged deadlifts are not a good option as i Rack pull 2 times a week and the added stress to my lower back from doing the SLDL is too much for me to handle. Lying leg curls are the best overall exercise for the hamstrings and next comes super lunges using a reebok step-up in a smith machine, then romanian deadlifts. Also, single legged romainian deadlifts using a dumbbell can put less pressure on the lower back than doing them both legs at a time. If I were you I would do 3 sets of deep super lunges followed by 6 sets of lying leg curls once a week. That's how my wife built her massive hamstrings!

regards.

Attached are some photos of my wife (Kathy Rowland) and her amazing hamstring development!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ronnie,

I've decided to start with the SST method! I will be preparing to do so now - only have one, maybe 2 parts im not sure about... I am just about to finish my 12 week cycle of test cyp @ 500mg weekly and backloaded with 3 weeks of prop @ 400mg weekly to shorten the wait time before PCT would begin. i started this cycle befreo i decided to do SST and so I planned to start pct of clomid 70/35/35/35 and nolva 40/20/20/20 three days after last pin of prop. i used HCG @ 250iu every 3.5 days on shot days and a-dex @.25mg eod for an AI so i will not be using any for pct. what i am wondering is if i should do the pct as planned and then wait the old "time on + pct = time off" before starting with SST reloading and deloading...i mean, i usually stick to my plans but it almost sounds like a waste of pct to me if i just want to jump on sst and be on atleast 20 or 30 weeks of reolading and deloading...that would mean i gotta wait 22 more weeks before i can start SST which sounds like sh!t to me lol I would go ahead and begin Slingshot Training while continuing 250 iu of HCG twice a week!

My plan this far for reloading cycle is going to be
Test cyp @ 375mg monday and thursday (750 mg total)
HCG 2 250iu monday and thursday (500iu total)
A-dex @.25 eod or ED as i think i will need the adjustment for this cycle

Deload
test cyp @ 250mg weekly (monday only or split up?)
AI? HCG? not to sure about if i need them for deload? Keep hcg in at 250 iu twice a week during deload. Everything else looks good!

thanks in advanced for your time and knowledge! Cheers

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[mockery]

she has a great bicep peaks in the third pic. I will try and get the movement down for the lunges. one of my friends who is pro suggest the same thing for lunges but i was confused because i was always led to believe they were a quad dominate exercise.

thanks.


3 other quick questions please.

1.) back width is better off with close grip pull ups and pull downs? ( i know this is always a heated debate )

2.) i cant barbell bench cause i have a small but in check right ac joint problem., my dumbbell flat bench is strong and feels good. but im not growing . My chest is about 10 inchs out of what it should be and its a major factor. What are your thoughts on dropping flat bench and using the hammerstrength iso decline machine, pull overs laying on teh bench with a rebox step under my feet and incline dumbells

3.) is dropping the weight on my shoulder exercises the only way i can limit the amount or traps involved? i have short clavicle range, i need my shoulders to surpass my traps so they don't get over shadowed by the trap. or would heavy shrugs first to fatigue the traps help at all in this role?

thanks

[Bulkn]

Hey Ronnie! How you been, hope all is going well.
Now, i have a quick question for you:
I am right handed and right legged but i have a bigger left quad and bigger left tricep. I have been told my many people that theres not much i can really do about it but i'd like your thoughts and professional opinion on the matter and if there is any way i can bring up the lagging ones?

Thanks!

[lynxeffect1]

ron what would be your reccomended standard dosage of arimidex ? .5per day /1mg eod to 1mg per day at most if needed? also can you run such doses as that permanently or dependant on bloods? or better to use it with longer ester test and take a break when using prop

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks for the compliment..


About my shoulders... My right shoulder somethign is wrong.. I have full range of motion but Bench Press and overhead press like smith machine kills my right shoulder... It hurts more coming down with the weight on say the shoulders press machine then going up..."still hurts going up not as much".. Its like something inside cant supports the weight...

Ive stopped doing over heads for shoulders and still to side raises , reverse cables but I feel like im going to lose size in the one bodypart that looks solid on me.. As benching im going to stick with Decline as this hurts but not as much and i can still go somewhat heavy... I cant do inclines AT ALL...

No idea whats going on because day to day living my shoulder is fine with full range of motion.

Im on a deload now and next week then going to use DECA with lower test.. Im praying this deca will relieve or perhaps heal whatever is going on..

This happened to me years ago but eventually got better..You have shoulder impingement and need to lay off bench presses and over head presses for six weeks. Laterals and declines will work just fine to keep your shoulder size. I had to stop flat bench press and overhead presses on the smith machine several years ago and not only has my shoulder pain improved dramatically so has my chest and deltoid development! Once you heal try doing overhead presses with cables on a seated life fitness machine if you have access and your shoulders will grow! Flat bench press and inclines should be tossed to the wind if you have shoulder problems . Instead do declines and a seated decline hammer strength machine with seat down to where arms are at mid chest to hit upper chest but don't let your arms travel back too far or it will over stretch the front delts and create pain. Even better than declines are seated cable chest presses on a life fitness machine and its my number one mass builder for the chest. The shoulder and chest cable machines sit side by side one another at our gym and it's like working with dumbbell but even better because there's constant tension and no awkward lifting of heavy dumbbells. It takes the stabilizers out of the equation and allows me to focus on the target muscle at hand. It spares not only the rotator cuffs but the elbow joints!

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[mockery]

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can u find a picture pof this life fitness machine?> i have right impingement too., i have dropped barbell press's so far the dumb bells dont hurt so bad. and i can dip unlike before i couldn't.

[The Titan99]

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Great! Next reload I'm going to try as follows:
Mon.- Chest, Bi's, Abs
Tues. - Back
Wed. - OFF
Thurs. - Shoulders, Tri's, Traps
Fri. - Legs ( Smith machine Squats x3, Smith Machine Split Squats x 3, Hack squats x 3, Leg Press x 3, My gym has only facilities for seated leg curls so 9 sets there (unless you can think of another couple of exercises) seated calf raises x 6.

Oh, just read your response to Mockery's Hammy post. How/what are super lunges? How do they differ from split squats? Really long lunges where you bring your back foot up to your front? Same question on Romanian deadlifts...

[alex.mitev]

Hey Ron, i`ve been using your method for the past 20 weeks or so and have huge progress so thank you. My last reload was 1gr test e + 40 mg dbol . Now i`m deloading at 250 mg test e and plan on running PCT followed by 4-6 weeks off from AAS.

For my next cycle, I can get hold of real Omnadren (sust 250) directly from the pharmacy for very insignificant amount of money! having said that, do you suggest I run sust alone 1 shot EOD, or add also 600 mg deca weekly (it will have serious impact from financial standpoint)? Deca will make big difference?

My intention is builiding more mass off season, diet will be 250-300 gr carbs, 150 gr fats, 320-250 gr protein and my weigt is 95 kg.

[slimshady01]

Thanks for the help Ron,


Hoping shoulder recovers soon. I appreciate your time and lengthy response.

[>Good Luck<]

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Thx ronnie!

[The Titan99]

Hey Ron, I'm going to put my girlfriend on 10 mg of Anavar starting my next reload. Is there anything as far as sides, good or bad I should watch for? Also, should she run it for 8 weeks, deload, then 8 more weeks ala STS? I guess there's no such thing as PCT for women (duh) so couldn't she just cruise indefinitely on Var?

[joegunner]

You can run test enanthate for 12 weeks or longer but at the 8 week point you would need to increase the dosages to continue making noticeable gains. It's not well understood as to why steroid cycles stop working well after 8 weeks but according to William Llewelln in his book ANABOLICS 9TH EDITION-" it's believed to be related to the new metabolic limits placed on muscle cells under the influece of a certain dosage of steroids , not insensitivity to the AAS. Classic downregulation does not occur with these drugs and even if it did, rotating steroids would not prevent it".

In regards to time on= time off. Thats is fine but you will be in a constant state of gaining muscle then losing muscle. It's called YO-YOING! You cannot come off of all drugs for that length of time and expect to maintain your gains. I have learned that the body will hold onto all of it's size (minus water weight) for about 2 weeks.

In regards to the 2 week deload you can do any PCT during the 2 weeks off or bridge with a base like testosterone and/or smaller amounts of all the slow acting drugs used in the reload. The goal is to hold onto all mass while reducing anabolic hormones in the body, then come back using more anabolics during reload to make continued progress. More training volume and protein would also be needed when returning to the 8 week reload.

This was written a while ago, however many people suggest running test e at 12 weeks, would it be as effective running a cycle for the 8 weeks? at a 500mg a week?

[Cronos]

So I have a serious question for you, Ron. Anyone else with lots of gym experience please feel free to chime in. This has been bugging me for the last couple days. I work at a very large gym chain across north america, and at my location I recently met a couple individuals who have successfully (no intent of their own) made me feel pretty low about myself.

Person A: 42 year old male, just placed in the top 4 in one of the worlds biggest "natural" bodybuilding shows. 5'10, 190 SHREDDED. I mean 11 different veins just in his bi's and feathering in his back shredded. GREAT physique, you get it. I got to know this guy over the last while and we get on the topic of juice. Swears up and down he's all natural, and NEVER even touched a steroid . Now, I'm pretty open and honest with my gym buddies after we get to know each other for a while, I mean we're all in this together so no point in juicing and everybody know it, and then me saying "uh, no, no way man, never touched it". when asked by one of my seasoned gym buddies. You just look like an idiot to me. On top of being in this shape, the guy pushes 315 on the bench at his weight and condition for reps! He's 42!

Person B: a 25 year old male I befriended who just happens to have that "perfect" structure for bodybuilding. Really tiny joints, swollen big round muscle bellies EVERYWHERE (wtf), around 8% bf, 5'10 194. On top of that, he's freakishly strong! 5 plate deads for 10! 4 plate squats for several sets of 8-10 AT THE END OF HIS LEG WORKOUT! after leg extensions, after leg press etc. 4 plate bench for 3. Again, swears on his mother's grave he's on NOTHING. On top of that, he tells me he only consumes 100g of carbs per day and 30g fats from fish oils, about 250g protein. Can he really look that swolen, be that freakishly strong at that weight with those tiny joints on those few carbs and calories and be CLEAN?!?

I sincerely hope for some honest answers and opinions here please, because I'm honest about what I'm on, the weights I move etc. and I don't even compare to these guys. To give you an idea of myself, I turn A LOT of heads my self (don't mean to brag, just trying to give some contrast here) and I'm only 180 at 5'7 about 8% bf. But I'm on stuff, and I admit and I'm no where near these 2 individuals. I've got a sloppy 335 bench AT BEST, 513 dead for 1, and 407 squat for 1. I've just kinda slipped into a bit of a depression about all this, I know it may sound silly. So lets hear your honest opinions. I mean, are any of you here like these 2 guys?

Thanks

[Epic]

This sounds like what happened to me back in 2007. I was lifting too much and joints/ shoulder was having a hard time supporting the weight. Even though the muscle could handle it. My right shoulder eventually started to pop out of the socket, became painful. Went to the Dr.. MRI...I had a torn labrium & rotator cuff from a snowboarding fall years before all this. The heavy lifting made it worse. Long story short, I eventually had it opperated on. 3 screws in my shoulder. Surgery set me back 1 year. And its still not 100%. I think the doctor over compinsated and now its pinching, like it feels tight somedays. Be careful... I'm hoping GH will help it on my next cycle.

Thanks for the compliment..


About my shoulders... My right shoulder somethign is wrong.. I have full range of motion but Bench Press and overhead press like smith machine kills my right shoulder... It hurts more coming down with the weight on say the shoulders press machine then going up..."still hurts going up not as much".. Its like something inside cant supports the weight...

Ive stopped doing over heads for shoulders and still to side raises , reverse cables but I feel like im going to lose size in the one bodypart that looks solid on me.. As benching im going to stick with Decline as this hurts but not as much and i can still go somewhat heavy... I cant do inclines AT ALL...

No idea whats going on because day to day living my shoulder is fine with full range of motion.

Im on a deload now and next week then going to use DECA with lower test.. Im praying this deca will relieve or perhaps heal whatever is going on..

This happened to me years ago but eventually got better..

[Ronnie Rowland]

she has a great bicep peaks in the third pic. I will try and get the movement down for the lunges. one of my friends who is pro suggest the same thing for lunges but i was confused because i was always led to believe they were a quad dominate exercise.

thanks.


3 other quick questions please.

1.) back width is better off with close grip pull ups and pull downs? ( i know this is always a heated debate ) Back width is best obtained by using a dual cable life fitness pull down machine with two handles not the bar! Palms must face forward. When using a bar a medium grip is best because close grip is more lower_outer lats and biceps while a wide grip is more rhomboids/inner lats and brachials.

2.) i cant barbell bench cause i have a small but in check right ac joint problem., my dumbbell flat bench is strong and feels good. but im not growing . My chest is about 10 inchs out of what it should be and its a major factor. What are your thoughts on dropping flat bench and using the hammer strength iso decline machine, pull overs laying on teh bench with a rebox step under my feet and incline dumbells pullovers are a lat movement so drop them. Do the hammer strength for both the mid-lower chest and mid-upper chest! For my height, I put the seat on position 6 using a medium width grip to hit lower-mid chest. Set seat position all the way down to 10 to hit mid-upper chest and use a wide grip on this movement to involve more upper chest. Do 5 sets to failure per exercise once a week.

3.) is dropping the weight on my shoulder exercises the only way i can limit the amount or traps involved? i have short clavicle range, i need my shoulders to surpass my traps so they don't get over shadowed by the trap. or would heavy shrugs first to fatigue the traps help at all in this role? Just strop training traps if need be or cut back volume to 2 sets once a week. When doing lateral raises do them one arm at a time to take the traps out of the exercise as much as possible.

thanks

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[The Titan99]

can u find a picture pof this life fitness machine?> i have right impingement too., i have dropped barbell press's so far the dumb bells dont hurt so bad. and i can dip unlike before i couldn't.

There they are. I wish I had a gym with these machines too....

[mockery]

I dropped flat bench, incline and dumbell press and no pain in my shoulder since.

Ive started to use the hammerstrength decline, that is plate loaded. i drop the seat way to the bottom and go max grip width, I REALLY FEEL MY CHEST WORKING FOR ONCE. ( if i go all the way back it hurts... so im not going all the way back, racking it sucks cause im scared im gonna hurt my self) I follow this with push ups with my feet on a flat bench. Im doing this to try and get much front delt work as possible as i haven't replaced the press's so currently nothing for front delt, it might not be the best way.. any input is useful. I may add in dumbbell pull overs with a rebox step under my feet and laying on the bench so my bum stays high to work the chest more.. again if this is correct form for targeting pec major and minor and my lions teeth.

My gym has those double cable pull machines so i will give this a try. i thought it was a gay looking piece of equipment. but i will try it.

I use the hammerstrength side lateral raise, and will start to do one arm at a time since they have separate moving arms. I make sure not to raise my palms above horizontal parallel so i don't impinge the rotators.

*i believe after i get back to my heavier lifts, just on a reset. that the shoulder issue might show itself during rear delt flys on the machine, currently no pain or discomfort.

**the plate loaded iso shoulder press, i sat in it man it feels very werid the angle you are at, for me anyways. is this normal or good?

[Ronnie Rowland]

can u find a picture pof this life fitness machine?> i have right impingement too., i have dropped barbell press's so far the dumb bells dont hurt so bad. and i can dip unlike before i couldn't.

http://www.lifefitness.com/commercia...hestpress.html Shows dual cable life fitness chest press, shoulder press and, lat pull down machine. I love all 3!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron, I'm going to put my girlfriend on 10 mg of Anavar starting my next reload. Is there anything as far as sides, good or bad I should watch for? Also, should she run it for 8 weeks, deload, then 8 more weeks ala STS? I guess there's no such thing as PCT for women (duh) so couldn't she just cruise indefinitely on Var? Have her use 10 mgs on reloads and 5 mgs of deloads if going for size. Females can pretty much cruise on var forever! She could take it as high as 20 mgs in the future during a strict cutting phase and she could go that high for reloads later on down the road to add more lean mass. If she starts getting hoarse have her lower the dosage in half until her body adjust. Too many anabolics could deepen her voice ever so slightly and cause a little hair loss on her head and even increase hair growth on the face but it's very rare with anavar. It usually takes an androgen like test to do such in females.Some females hold a little water weight with anavar until their body adjust. Her sex drive will increase so stay on the cialis!!!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

There they are. I wish I had a gym with these machines too....

These are the good as well but the cables versions are better!

[Ronnie Rowland]

This was written a while ago, however many people suggest running test e at 12 weeks, would it be as effective running a cycle for the 8 weeks? at a 500mg a week? Yes running 500 mgs for 12 weeks will be just as effective as running 500mgs for 8 weeks but don't expect to keep making gains after around 8 weeks if you don't increase the dosage above 500 mgs weekly. Also, you need to back off your training volume for a couple of weeks after training wide open for 8 weeks so this is the perfect time to give the body a break from higher dosages of anabolics.

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[The Titan99]

Have her use 10 mgs on reloads and 5 mgs of deloads if going for size. Females can pretty much cruise on var forever! She could take it as high as 20 mgs in the future during a strict cutting phase and she could go that high for reloads later on down the road to add more lean mass. If she starts getting hoarse have her lower the dosage in half until her body adjust. Too many anabolics could deepen her voice ever so slightly and cause a little hair loss on her head and even increase hair growth on the face but it's very rare with anavar . It usually takes an androgen like test to do such in females.Some females hold a little water weight with anavar until their body adjust. Her sex drive will increase so stay on the cialis!!!

Sounds excellent. I'm deloading on Monday so she can start when I start the reload. She's Thai/Asian as can be so she already has a piercingly high-pitched voice. A little deepening wouldn't hurt things at all. Also she has not one single body hair as it is so that shouldn't be a problem. The sex drive thing is going to be a challenge though, hell, it already is. Just reordered another 5 bottles of cialis. Got some Varden coming too. Thought I'd try it out. Lion's going to love me!!

[mockery]

Have her use 10 mgs on reloads and 5 mgs of deloads if going for size. Females can pretty much cruise on var forever! She could take it as high as 20 mgs in the future during a strict cutting phase and she could go that high for reloads later on down the road to add more lean mass. If she starts getting hoarse have her lower the dosage in half until her body adjust. Too many anabolics could deepen her voice ever so slightly and cause a little hair loss on her head and even increase hair growth on the face but it's very rare with anavar . It usually takes an androgen like test to do such in females.Some females hold a little water weight with anavar until their body adjust. Her sex drive will increase so stay on the cialis!!!


Sounds excellent. I'm deloading on Monday so she can start when I start the reload. She's Thai/Asian as can be so she already has a piercingly high-pitched voice. A little deepening wouldn't hurt things at all. Also she has not one single body hair as it is so that shouldn't be a problem. The sex drive thing is going to be a challenge though, hell, it already is. Just reordered another 5 bottles of cialis. Got some Varden coming too. Thought I'd try it out. Lion's going to love me!!

5 bottles!! are you drinking 1ml a day? haha well i guess you are a big boy/.

[Ronnie Rowland]

so i have a serious question for you, ron. Anyone else with lots of gym experience please feel free to chime in. This has been bugging me for the last couple days. I work at a very large gym chain across north america, and at my location i recently met a couple individuals who have successfully (no intent of their own) made me feel pretty low about myself.

Person a: 42 year old male, just placed in the top 4 in one of the worlds biggest "natural" bodybuilding shows. 5'10, 190 shredded. I mean 11 different veins just in his bi's and feathering in his back shredded. Great physique, you get it. I got to know this guy over the last while and we get on the topic of juice. Swears up and down he's all natural, and never even touched a steroid . Now, i'm pretty open and honest with my gym buddies after we get to know each other for a while, i mean we're all in this together so no point in juicing and everybody know it, and then me saying "uh, no, no way man, never touched it". When asked by one of my seasoned gym buddies. You just look like an idiot to me. On top of being in this shape, the guy pushes 315 on the bench at his weight and condition for reps! He's 42!

Person b: A 25 year old male i befriended who just happens to have that "perfect" structure for bodybuilding. Really tiny joints, swollen big round muscle bellies everywhere (wtf), around 8% bf, 5'10 194. On top of that, he's freakishly strong! 5 plate deads for 10! 4 plate squats for several sets of 8-10 at the end of his leg workout! After leg extensions, after leg press etc. 4 plate bench for 3. Again, swears on his mother's grave he's on nothing. On top of that, he tells me he only consumes 100g of carbs per day and 30g fats from fish oils, about 250g protein. Can he really look that swolen, be that freakishly strong at that weight with those tiny joints on those few carbs and calories and be clean?!?

I sincerely hope for some honest answers and opinions here please, because i'm honest about what i'm on, the weights i move etc. And i don't even compare to these guys. To give you an idea of myself, i turn a lot of heads my self (don't mean to brag, just trying to give some contrast here) and i'm only 180 at 5'7 about 8% bf. But i'm on stuff, and i admit and i'm no where near these 2 individuals. I've got a sloppy 335 bench at best, 513 dead for 1, and 407 squat for 1. I've just kinda slipped into a bit of a depression about all this, i know it may sound silly. So lets hear your honest opinions. I mean, are any of you here like these 2 guys? Honestly, I would have to see a front and rear photo of each individual to give my opinion but what I can tell you having been a personal trainer for 28 years is that black guys, people from Germany, Poland, Austria, and such, often have a huge advantage in bodybuilding due to their genetic make-up. Obviously, not all of them have great genetics but the one's that do are impressive. Think about how many big Asian bodybuilders you see and it's not a lot. Some people are built more for endurance type exercise like long distance running and others are built for mass and power. So, it's possible they are both all natural but some people will not admit they are using steroids because they are afraid of getting busted or they started out with that lie and feel the need to continue lying or else they will really look bad in the eyes of others if truth be told.

I learned along time ago not to compare myself to others. For example, i am only 5'10 and will never be 6"10 and play professional basketball or 350 lbs and play lineman in the NFL. My calves and upper chest have never grown much regardless of what i done for them due to poor genetics and the majority of guys with huge calves at our gym don't even work them. My arms grow whether I do 6 sets a week or 30 sets a week due to my genetics. Bodybuilding is not a fair sport but neither is football or basketball. Strength often has more to do with tendon size and insertions than actual muscle size-hence the reason most power lifters are not nearly as muscular as bodybuilders. Some people like my wife are born with both strength and muscle size. She was born with big rope veins and while I have a lot of veins they are no where as big as hers nor will they ever be! She got it honestly-from her dad!

note: I have worked with people I consider friends at various gyms who swore up and down to all of us they never ever touched steroids but then later found out who was selling steroids to them. Not everyone wants to admit they are using steroids because they know if they tell one person many will find out because word travels fast. Also, many of these so-called natural bodybuilder's are using steroids, insulin, and GH. Just take a look at how Lance Armstrong has lied about his steroid and blood doping use. I am not judging him but rather using Lance and his cycling buddies as examples as people lieing about their drug use. I would also like to add that these really big guys like pro bodybuilders combine large amounts of insulin and gh along with both oral and injectable steroids. When the average guy tries using that much they do not make the same kind of gains because these big guys are born with more muscle fibers and receptors to uptake higher dosages of steroids.

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[The Titan99]

5 bottles!! are you drinking 1ml a day? haha well i guess you are a big boy/.

Yea!! 30 mg ed while I'm running Tren on the heavy side. I have this new girlfriend though and when my Tren cycle stops Monday I think I'll need to just keep on with it.

[mockery]

Yea!! 30 mg ed while I'm running Tren on the heavy side. I have this new girlfriend though and when my Tren cycle stops Monday I think I'll need to just keep on with it.

is it have to do with your age that your blood pressure is that high? , obviously the gear makes it shoot up. but that is a large dose.

[mockery]

Ronnie when you over bulked to grow you arms years back, and your stomach get enlarged, did it ever shrink back down? whats your protocol to grow now, very short bulks followed with necessary cutting like 6 week bulk, 6 week cut?

[The Titan99]

is it have to do with your age that your blood pressure is that high? , obviously the gear makes it shoot up. but that is a large dose.

Tren raises my BP as does Masteron when I start to get up towards a gram. Amlopine keeps it down but not as good as cialis. The new girlfriend is a sex machine so as far as that goes the cialis kills two birds with one stone.

[The Titan99]

Ronnie when you over bulked to grow you arms years back, and your stomach get enlarged, did it ever shrink back down? whats your protocol to grow now, very short bulks followed with necessary cutting like 6 week bulk, 6 week cut?

What's this about over bulking? I need to grow my arms to catch the rest of my body. They are incredibly long and so they appear to be small for my body.

[AZ Muscle]

Ronnie Rowland, what type of advice you have on this topic for people who are competing in strongman as opposed to bodybuilding? Would everything look the same for the 8 and 2?

[lynxeffect1]

hi ron, this time last year i was bloated as a barrell of water from continously upping the test dose on reloads when i realised i didnt need to be goin so high.anyhow the water weight put my bp up,but at the same time id to give up training due to job loss and few other things. i also went on 6 months of ac****ane which put my blood pressure threw da roof .im finished with accutane since around june i think. lost tons of weight since stopped training like 50 pounds also .on july 12 my bp was 160/88 so hit to treadmill every 2nd day and by july 18 it was 133/77. just what i was looking for ! but the past 2 months id had to stop the running and cant continue it again until 7 weeks time. so i tested my bp at random today and it was 135/93. what the hell? i thought it wud have gone down naturally by now even without any running??? why isnt it at normal range? im back trim and looking normal, althought i do find now even tho ive not lifted in a year ive more muscle and water than years ago when i never lifted weights. i was a classic ectomorphic skinny f*ck under weight! i was planning on hopefully getn back to them gym in the new year but obviously want to sort my bp out before hitn prop and tren to get down to single digit bodyfat first, den grow lean from there , i know ur goin to say hit the treadmill which i will , am i still carrying water weight dat i need to loose is this the reason for the still slighty high bp ? please help, never had any problems health wise with bp before or in the family, i did get and have sleep apnea tho which i attribute to the water weight from high test, i was carrying way way to much for about a full year, face was bloated permanently! but have a cpap for that which has gone down to only about 6 episodes a time, compared to double that when i didnt have the cpap, i expect it to be down more in jan for my next check

[AlexanderEnglish]

Man, what a fantastic guide. As a newbie to anabolics I found this extremely helpful. Thank you very much for taking the time to write it up.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Great! Next reload I'm going to try as follows:
Mon.- Chest, Bi's, Abs
Tues. - Back (I WOULD NOT TRAIN BACK THE DAY AFTER BICEPS-DO LEGS HERE)
Wed. - OFF
Thurs. - Shoulders, Tri's, Traps (DO BACK WORKOUT HERE AND SHOULDERS/TRICEPS/TRAPS ON FRIDAY OR VISE VERSA)
Fri. - Legs ( Smith machine Squats x3, Smith Machine Split Squats x 3, Hack squats x 3, Leg Press x 3, My gym has only facilities for seated leg curls so 9 sets there (unless you can think of another couple of exercises) seated calf raises x 6. I would do only 6 sets of seated leg curls if you are adding Romanian dead lifts and or super lunges.

Oh, just read your response to Mockery's Hammy post. How/what are super lunges? How do they differ from split squats? Really long lunges where you bring your back foot up to your front? Same question on Romanian deadlifts...

Romanian dead lifts- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnBREGM7pE0

Super lunges on smith machine-(NOTE: PERFORM THEM JUST AS SHOWN IN VIDEO EXCEPT PLACE A REEBOK STEP-UP USED IN AEROBICS AND BODY PUMP CLASSES UNDERNEATH THE FRONT FOOT TO GET A DEEPER STRETCH-HENCE INCREASING GLUTE/HAMSTRING STIMULATION)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY5jdCxRkbY

[Ronnie Rowland]

i dropped flat bench, incline and dumbell press and no pain in my shoulder since.

Ive started to use the hammerstrength decline, that is plate loaded. I drop the seat way to the bottom and go max grip width, i really feel my chest working for once. ( if i go all the way back it hurts... So im not going all the way back, correct, do not go all the way back or it can cause shoulder pain and do not fully lock out because it can cause elbow pain! Racking it sucks cause im scared im gonna hurt my self) i follow this with push ups with my feet on a flat bench.do not follow up with pushups as this will take away from your next work set! im doing this to try and get much front delt work as possible as i haven't replaced the press's so currently nothing for front delt, it might not be the best way.. declines along will hit your front delts and you have the option of adding front raises. any input is useful. I may add in dumbbell pull overs with a rebox step under my feet and laying on the bench so my bum stays high to work the chest more..that will probably cause shoulder pain and still primarily hit the lats so do not do pullovers. again if this is correct form for targeting pec major and minor and my lions teeth.

My gym has those double cable pull machines so i will give this a try. I thought it was a gay looking piece of equipment. But i will try it.

I use the hammerstrength side lateral raise, and will start to do one arm at a time since they have separate moving arms. I make sure not to raise my palms above horizontal parallel so i don't impinge the rotators.

*i believe after i get back to my heavier lifts, just on a reset. That the shoulder issue might show itself during rear delt flys on the machine, currently no pain or discomfort.

**the plate loaded iso shoulder press, i sat in it man it feels very werid the angle you are at, for me anyways. Is this normal or good? i personally do not like the iso plate loaded shoulder press.

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