You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

there has been talk that creatine "might" battle myostatin. its a newer find , i think it was discovered in 1993. as far as i know, coming off and running short cycles before the myostatin protein starts to develop. I guess ronnies system, increasing the gear and proper deloads are to confuse the protein from forming , but as Ron had stated in a earlier post on this page, maybe we are doing deloads wrong?

in any case, i cant eat this much food now, physically and cost wise... well i could in theory... i eat a lower carb diet, around 120 a day and 300+ and high animal fat protein during reloads, i guess i could increase carbs to 300-500... that may be the ticket. Yes, you need to increase carbs to make muscle gains! still again eating that much more and the cost of a already very clean strict diet now becomes a issue. lol

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[RyanGreg]

i dont understand this thread ronnie.....? so is it 8 week steroid cycle then 2 week no cycle (pct) then repeat 8 week steroid cycle again? Is this correct...?

[mockery]

i dont understand this thread ronnie.....? so is it 8 week steroid cycle then 2 week no cycle (pct) then repeat 8 week steroid cycle again? Is this correct...?

Hello RyanGreg

Please take the time to read the introduction on page one, yes it will take an hour of your time to read, then read it again. write down any questions you have and then use the search engine for this thread. Ronnie has answered the same questions over and over. He is a very patient man, he is also recovering from surgery right now and isn't on much. He gives us free advice that he usually gets paid for to put food on the table. We are lucky to have someone so passionate and knowledgeable about fitness that he is willing to take this on as gratuitous work.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I'm prone to gyno but love what tren does for me. I was wondering what you would recommend for ai and a safe starting dose to work off till i get blood work done.
The cycle will consist of per week
1 gram test p
700mg tren
500mg deca (to help my joint pain)

I like stane but it hasn't helped much while on tren. First, I would try using 700 mgs of tren weekly and reducing the test to around 200 mgs per week (a cruise dose) and see how you do. There are some people who cannot run 700 mgs of tren weekly with 1 gram of test but they can handle the tren side once they reduce their test which lowers estrogen-hence gyno. You do not need 500 mgs of deca for joint pain. That's overkill! I would suggest you try using only 1/2 cc of deca weekly for joint pain relief and adjust your training protocol and exercise selection. Remember, high doses of deca will probably kill your libido and taking high dosages to mask joint pain can actually make your joints worse when you come off that particular drug. If you switch over to doing more cable work, avoid over stretching your joints, and using a slower tempo during each repetition the joint pain should subside over-time. Thanks for your help

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks for the info ron! Much Appreciated!

Just another quick question, regarding the full pct etc

I was on a 20 week cutting cycle before, My last jab was SUS 250 (@125mg, only 1/2ml) over 3 weeks ago.
I plan on taking another week off, before jumping back on. (Will be 4 weeks since last injection)

When you say a 4 week pct, do you refer to 4 weeks of the ester being cleared from your system (18 days roughly post injection) or 4 weeks after last jab? In general, a good time to start pct is 1 week after your last test injection. Keep in mind you do not begin to recover full testicular function until after you have finished HCG not while you are using hcg. A selecet few recover pretty fast without taking hcg and it sounds like you may be one of those people given your steroids were real. Once your dosages go up and cycles lengthen you will probably need hcg when going off even if you are one of those lucky ones that bounce back on their own pretty fast. Normally I would suggest running hcg for 3 weeks a week after your last test injection then giving another 3 weeks on your own for full recovery to occur before jumping back on a cycle.
Will 4 weeks post last injection be enough to be recovered? I feel fine, and I came off with only natural supplements i.e D-Aspartic Acid, No Nolvadex or clomid.
I have no ED, and libido seems to be normal.

Thanks again Ron!!

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[DancesWithTren]

In a deload, can i simply lower the dosages of the same compounds i just used on a blast for a week or two then go back on an eight week blast with higher dosages?

[>Good Luck<]

In a deload, can i simply lower the dosages of the same compounds i just used on a blast for a week or two then go back on an eight week blast with higher dosages?

I'd be curious to see what Tren would do during a cruise. Ron will probably answer that it's best to run only the test for a bridge at around 250mg/week for 2 weeks before returning to the same dose u were on for weeks 1-8. After you realize that you are not progressing at that dose (probably several blasts) then adjust compounds slightly. The whole point of blast and cruise is so receptors stay alert and you don't need to up doses. But this is what I gather from my reading, and reading and reading and reading..... The guru will chime in I'm sure and give you the goods.

Good luck with your comp prep

[DancesWithTren]

I'd be curious to see what Tren would do during a cruise. Ron will probably answer that it's best to run only the test for a bridge at around 250mg/week for 2 weeks before returning to the same dose u were on for weeks 1-8. After you realize that you are not progressing at that dose (probably several blasts) then adjust compounds slightly. The whole point of blast and cruise is so receptors stay alert and you don't need to up doses. But this is what I gather from my reading, and reading and reading and reading..... The guru will chime in I'm sure and give you the goods.

Good luck with your comp prep

Thanks Bro

[VASCULAR VINCE]

big ron...worst leg press machine for increasing compression on lower spine???? best leg press machine to use for decrease pressure on lower spine????

[Ronnie Rowland]

In a deload, can i simply lower the dosages of the same compounds i just used on a blast for a week or two then go back on an eight week blast with higher dosages? You can if it's test or GH but not other compounds unless you are running an oral only cycle..

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[Ronnie Rowland]

I'd be curious to see what Tren would do during a cruise. If you are one of those people who use higher dosages of tren than test, then you could use tren for a 2 week deload as opposed to test. I do not think there would be a noticeable difference between the two in this case. Ron will probably answer that it's best to run only the test for a bridge at around 250mg/week for 2 weeks before returning to the same dose u were on for weeks 1-8. After you realize that you are not progressing at that dose (probably several blasts) then adjust compounds slightly. The whole point of blast and cruise is so receptors stay alert and you don't need to up doses. It's not that your receptors down regulate per se but rather the increases of other catbolic hormones cancels out the anabollic affects of test-hence the body reaches homeostasis. But this is what I gather from my reading, and reading and reading and reading..... The guru will chime in I'm sure and give you the goods.

Good luck with your comp prep

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

big ron...worst leg press machine for increasing compression on lower spine???? best leg press machine to use for decrease pressure on lower spine????

The main leg press to avoid if you have back pain is the "vertical or 45 degree plate loaded leg presses" and the best leg press machine to use for those with a bad back and esxcpecially "bad knees" is the "life fitness horizontal leg press." The Life Fitness linear hack squats is like a leg perss and does well for some. I no longer do leg presses but rather partial-reverse lunges on a plate loaded Hammer Strength appartus to deter back pain!above

[Ronnie Rowland]

i dont understand this thread ronnie.....? so is it 8 week steroid cycle then 2 week no cycle (pct) then repeat 8 week steroid cycle again? Is this correct...? 8 weeks on a higher dosed steroid cycle (reload), then 2 weeks on a small dosages of steroids (deload) for 2 weeks then repeat-"8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload". You can also run 250 ius of hcg twice a weeek while on cycle and/or do a full PCT after completion of 2 reloads and 2 deloads which totals 20 weeks of usage. Some opt to continue reloading and deloading for longer periods than 20 weeks and on occassion pct or cruise at a super low dosages for 6 weeks to prime the body for future gains before going back on. (

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[Jay-1000]

Hi Ron

Just want to say first off what a great read this whole thread has been! I've been working out now nautrally for over a decade, I'm 30 just for anyones info and bar the odd stupid and very uneducated oral cycle when I was in my mid twenties which I dont count in my training I'd become incredibly stagnated up until reading your thread and reseraching you on the net over the past 6 months. Its been a real eye opener reading your answers and the general feedback you've had from other guys posting on here so thanks for taking the time on here for us all.
My question for you is... I've recently just finished my first 20 week sling shot cycle composed of 500mg test E. and 500mg Eq (bad choice I know now). My reload should have gone up to 750mg of test but I held back for reasons below. My training over the twenty week period is probably the best its ever been due to the test I imagine and that I've followed your training regime religiously. Although I've not used the scales once in the twenty week period my lean body mass compared to when I started has been a quite remarkable I must say from just using the mirror as my guide. I dont know my exact body fat percentage before but I would hazzard a guess I was around 14% starting out and I probably finished up maybe around 10%. My stats are 5ft 9'' 184lbs currently. See photo attached. The problem I seem to have come across and I dont know if its just me being a bit green around the gills is that while on the cycle I noticed I was losing a substantial amount of hair from my scalp in the shower and on my pillow in the mornings, even running my hands through my hair at times.. I would guess three times the amount as to when I'm training naturally, it was that noticable. Now as far as I'm aware I certainly have no signs of male pattern baldness and I never have in fact I have very thick head of hair.
I know this must sound vain but I take great care in my apprearance as I'm sure most of the guys on here do but at the same time I don't want to risk a decent head of hair for an extra 15-20lbs of muscle. I have no desire to compete as of yet if ever given my current issue but I'd like to know from you is this something I am over worrying about? Now I know if your going to go bald its in your genes so I am willing to settle for that eventaully but if I can stop it from happening earlier then I'm going to like anyone. Basically is this something you see or get asked alot on? I know your not a fan of propecia and I second that with you as I don't want to screw my sex drive up as my girl friend would never forgive me! lol. At the same time though I feel like I really need to combat my DHT levels on or in my scalp region while cycling otheriwsue I think juicing I hate to say just isn't goin to be a life style choice for me is it.
Really hope you can lift the lid on this with as much advice as possible and any previous expierence with clients would be appreciated as I really dont want to give up cycling when I havent even really started...



Jay

[slimshady01]

Hi Ron

Just want to say first off what a great read this whole thread has been! I've been working out now nautrally for over a decade, I'm 30 just for anyones info and bar the odd stupid and very uneducated oral cycle when I was in my mid twenties which I dont count in my training I'd become incredibly stagnated up until reading your thread and reseraching you on the net over the past 6 months. Its been a real eye opener reading your answers and the general feedback you've had from other guys posting on here so thanks for taking the time on here for us all.
My question for you is... I've recently just finished my first 20 week sling shot cycle composed of 500mg test E. and 500mg Eq (bad choice I know now). My reload should have gone up to 750mg of test but I held back for reasons below. My training over the twenty week period is probably the best its ever been due to the test I imagine and that I've followed your training regime religiously. Although I've not used the scales once in the twenty week period my lean body mass compared to when I started has been a quite remarkable I must say from just using the mirror as my guide. I dont know my exact body fat percentage before but I would hazzard a guess I was around 14% starting out and I probably finished up maybe around 10%. My stats are 5ft 9'' 184lbs currently. See photo attached. The problem I seem to have come across and I dont know if its just me being a bit green around the gills is that while on the cycle I noticed I was losing a substantial amount of hair from my scalp in the shower and on my pillow in the mornings, even running my hands through my hair at times.. I would guess three times the amount as to when I'm training naturally, it was that noticable. Now as far as I'm aware I certainly have no signs of male pattern baldness and I never have in fact I have very thick head of hair.
I know this must sound vain but I take great care in my apprearance as I'm sure most of the guys on here do but at the same time I don't want to risk a decent head of hair for an extra 15-20lbs of muscle. I have no desire to compete as of yet if ever given my current issue but I'd like to know from you is this something I am over worrying about? Now I know if your going to go bald its in your genes so I am willing to settle for that eventaully but if I can stop it from happening earlier then I'm going to like anyone. Basically is this something you see or get asked alot on? I know your not a fan of propecia and I second that with you as I don't want to screw my sex drive up as my girl friend would never forgive me! lol. At the same time though I feel like I really need to combat my DHT levels on or in my scalp region while cycling otheriwsue I think juicing I hate to say just isn't goin to be a life style choice for me is it.
Really hope you can lift the lid on this with as much advice as possible and any previous expierence with clients would be appreciated as I really dont want to give up cycling when I havent even really started...

<img src="http://forums.steroid .com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131151"/>

Jay

Look solid bro good work!

[slimshady01]

http://www.hairloss-research.org/

Read this site bro , lots of natural alternatives to hairloss all backed with science.

[Jay-1000]

Thanks for the thumbs up and the link Slim I'll look into it. Appreciated. Looking sharpe yourself too!

[slimshady01]

Thanks Bro, Ive used their natural remedy for years after Propecia and never lost a single hair.. Since ive started gear 2 years ago its thinned a tad but holding on to most.. Im trying tren now so this ought to be a good test on how this works on a strong Androgen. If I see loss im off ASAP.

[Jay-1000]

Thanks Bro, Ive used their natural remedy for years after Propecia and never lost a single hair.. Since ive started gear 2 years ago its thinned a tad but holding on to most.. Im trying tren now so this ought to be a good test on how this works on a strong Androgen. If I see loss im off ASAP.

I have to ask what natural remedies have you run from that link then? Also how much test on average have you been running per week cycling as an average? Been reading up about the black tea link today. Sounds interesting but a lot of threads on Mpb saying it's a waste of time too though.

[slimshady01]

I have to ask what natural remedies have you run from that link then? Also how much test on average have you been running per week cycling as an average? Been reading up about the black tea link today. Sounds interesting but a lot of threads on Mpb saying it's a waste of time too though.

I tried to PM you so I didn't Hogg Ronnie's post but you can't receive any yet.

I've done up to 750 test.

I use ultra prostate , tocotrienals, curcumin and reseveratrol , black tea sometimes, msm and biotin.. Also fibroboost which isn't on there but google it.

PM me when u get enough posts

Oh Revita and nizoral 2% shampoo.

[Jay-1000]

I tried to PM you so I didn't Hogg Ronnie's post but you can't receive any yet.

I've done up to 750 test.

I use ultra prostate , tocotrienals, curcumin and reseveratrol , black tea sometimes, msm and biotin.. Also fibroboost which isn't on there but google it.

PM me when u get enough posts

Oh Revita and nizoral 2% shampoo.

In that case I better make some more posts! Sorry Ron

Thats really interesting how effective you've found them becasue I haven't read much else on here apart from the usual blurb you read about propecia and nizoral etc etc... so I'll keep reaearching. Thanks for the info again Slim. When I get enough posts I'll PM you.

[MisterD]

Ron,

Great Post......

I have a couple of questions so you can help me out.

my stats are
41 years old
167 lbs
5'-9"
19% BF

I have done a previous cutting cycle of triple stack for 2 months when I was 26% BF and went down to 17% BF. It was Prop, Tren and Masteron . This was 1 year ago

I normally run TRT at 1/2 to 3/4 Test once EW.

2 months ago I did 1/2 cc of Prop and 1/2 cc of Tren Mondays and Thursdays total 200mg EW and dieted real well and drop back down to 19% BF. When I saw that I shred pretty good with my diet and working out, i decided to bulk up for Jan and Feb then do a cutting cycle right after. The STS program seems to work well for me so I can bulk then run another blast and cut.

I started on Jan 1, Monday which was 100mg of Prop and 1cc of T400
My Next shot was Wed with 100mg of Prop
And I was planning for Friday 1cc of Equipose which its 300 or 350mg I have to check.

My questions are:
When I was running the 200mg of Prop 2 months ago should I have done a PCT or a Prime when I finished and started Jan 1?
Is Prop, T400 and Equipose good for Bulking?
Is the amount Im taking ok for maximum results?
If Test E better with Equipose I dont mind changing over ( less pinning I figure)
I want to maximise my growth will Im on the blast, do you recommend hitting the muscles 2 times a week as in your 5 day 2 times work out?
I want to Bulk not really cut until the second blast, what are the percentages you recommend as a clean bulk 30% Protein, 40% Carbs, 30% Fats is that correct?

Also when I build up to the size I like what do you recommend as for maintenance, can we continue with a regular TRT and maybe a couple blast every year?

Thanks for your help.
D

[dj erk15]

Great read. Your the man!

[MisterD]

Hey guys looks like Ron is out for awhile, maybe someone can help me with a couple of questions.

Im in the first week of the STS blast and im currently taking
300mg of Propanaite A.. EOD
400mg of T400 1cc . Which is 200mg of Cioponate and 200 of Enethate 1 EW
300mg of Equipose 1cc EW.

Normally Ron recommends 750 of Test a week added with another compound like Deca , Tren or Eq.
Does the short ester test like Prop added to the total test im taking? Or should i be adding more of the T400 per week?
And also should i raise the EQ to like 450 EW.
And lastly when we add up all the carbs and protien we eat per meal, i take 50g of Dextrose and 60g of Protien. Do those get added to our daily compsuption of Carbs and Protein like if it was a meal.

Thanks
D

[>Good Luck<]

Hey guys looks like Ron is out for awhile, maybe someone can help me with a couple of questions.

Im in the first week of the STS blast and im currently taking
300mg of Propanaite A.. EOD
400mg of T400 1cc . Which is 200mg of Cioponate and 200 of Enethate 1 EW
300mg of Equipose 1cc EW.

Normally Ron recommends 750 of Test a week added with another compound like Deca , Tren or Eq.
Does the short ester test like Prop added to the total test im taking? Or should i be adding more of the T400 per week?
And also should i raise the EQ to like 450 EW.
And lastly when we add up all the carbs and protien we eat per meal, i take 50g of Dextrose and 60g of Protien. Do those get added to our daily compsuption of Carbs and Protein like if it was a meal.

Thanks
D

Hey misterD,

I've also noticed rons absence... Hope he's doing well.

I'm a little confused about your cycle. U stated u shoot 300mg prop a? What is prop a? And if your shooting 300mg eod that's over a gram per week of just prop! That's a pretty high dose as it is added to the other test blend you have injected. It's just like sustanon , it will become a blend in your system.

Also IMO, eq is a waste and the negative sides outweigh the gains, however- I believe eq is said to be best doses between 400-600mg weekly but more than 600 would yeild no better gains.

In regards to your diet question, yes- add the Cals to your daily total. They are in fact Cals in, however you ingest them

Hope I was able to help, cheers

[MisterD]

Good Luck,

Sorry for the confusion....

I take 100mg of Test Proponate EOD, so 300 a week.

After reading alot of Rons suggestion I think im just going to switch over next week to:

750mg of Enethate EW
450mg of Equipose EW
30-50mg of D Bol ED
300mg of Masteron for AI cause i tend to get sore nipples. I normally take Arimidex however i do feel my joints getting a little dry.

Possibly for my second blast i will switch to Deca for my joints instead of Equipose.

Let me know what u think.

Thanks
D

[MisterD]

Good Luck,

What are the negative sides to Equipose. I have always read its pretty safe and doesnt bloat as much as the Deca .

Cheers
D

[>Good Luck<]

Good Luck,

Sorry for the confusion....

I take 100mg of Test Proponate EOD, so 300 a week.

After reading alot of Rons suggestion I think im just going to switch over next week to:

750mg of Enethate EW
450mg of Equipose EW
30-50mg of D Bol ED
300mg of Masteron for AI cause i tend to get sore nipples. I normally take Arimidex however i do feel my joints getting a little dry.

Possibly for my second blast i will switch to Deca for my joints instead of Equipose.

Let me know what u think.

Thanks
D

Looks like a solid cycle but I'm no guru, Ron is
Your best bet would be to do blood work to check all levels. Estrogen can be tricky to manage as everyone is a little different.

[>Good Luck<]

Good Luck,

What are the negative sides to Equipose. I have always read its pretty safe and doesnt bloat as much as the Deca .

Cheers
D

Eq has an incredible capability to raise Red blood cell count much more than any other steroid . This will leave you looking vascular, but not for being low bf, but rather high blood pressure. Many people choose to donate blood to counteract the heightened Rbc count.

Secondly it will increase appetite which is ok for people having trouble getting the food down but bad for people who already are eating above maintenance- because you'll be extra hungry even above maintenance

[MisterD]

GoodLuck,

Well the good thing is that Im bulking on this blast so i wouldn't mind the extra appetite

Now as for donating blood is that a monthly thing or do people actually get tested when there on there cycle. I have always done my blood work but after my cycle for my regular check up and TRT.

I really wanted DECA for this blast but they told me I would retain less water on EQ.

So my plan was to blast this cycle with bulking compounds then do another cycle to cut down.

What you think?

Thanks
D

[>Good Luck<]

GoodLuck,

Well the good thing is that Im bulking on this blast so i wouldn't mind the extra appetite

Now as for donating blood is that a monthly thing or do people actually get tested when there on there cycle. I have always done my blood work but after my cycle for my regular check up and TRT.

I really wanted DECA for this blast but they told me I would retain less water on EQ.

So my plan was to blast this cycle with bulking compounds then do another cycle to cut down.

What you think?

Thanks
D

Maybe this will help...

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...)#.UOy0ehp5mc0

I'm not sure what you expect to gain off boldenone ... Notice the last 4 letters...that's what you'll gain... NONE

If you want to gain mass and not retain water, drop the dbol and substitute for tbol, var, or no orals at all. And I'm sure you've heard of Tren . Even low doses (250mg) of Tren would be better than eq IMHO

[MisterD]

Man it's crazy how mix reviews on each different steroids .

Some like EQ but the majority hate it....

Most like DECO but also you see mix reviews.

Same as Dbol and Tbol they go both ways.

My opinion on Tren , I personally love it. Did a small cycle to cut BF and it ripped me up. I did it as a triple stack with Prob, Mast and Tren. I never got the Tren cough and was Horny as a bunny rabbit although I had to sleep with 3 towels due to the sweeting, I didn't mind it though.

See the funny thing is that I wanted to find the perfect cycle to bulk then do a cycle with Prop, Tren, Var and Mast to cut.

I'm not looking to gain mass amounts of muscle but just enough to gain some more size on legs and chest.

Now I have seen some threads that some guys bulk with Tren but it looks like its not the norm.

Please help me out brother,

D

[>Good Luck<]

Man it's crazy how mix reviews on each different steroids .

Some like EQ but the majority hate it....

Most like DECO but also you see mix reviews.

Same as Dbol and Tbol they go both ways.

My opinion on Tren , I personally love it. Did a small cycle to cut BF and it ripped me up. I did it as a triple stack with Prob, Mast and Tren. I never got the Tren cough and was Horny as a bunny rabbit although I had to sleep with 3 towels due to the sweeting, I didn't mind it though.

See the funny thing is that I wanted to find the perfect cycle to bulk then do a cycle with Prop, Tren, Var and Mast to cut.

I'm not looking to gain mass amounts of muscle but just enough to gain some more size on legs and chest.

Now I have seen some threads that some guys bulk with Tren but it looks like its not the norm.

Please help me out brother,

D

My friend, we are all learning and you'll alway see different opinions. Like any other subject, majority usually rules.

Check out this thread - start from the first post. Atomini has a way of making it make sense

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ctively-thread!

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=RyanGreg;6303846]i dont understand this thread ronnie.....? so is it 8 week steroid cycle then 2 week no cycle (pct) then repeat 8 week steroid cycle again? Is this correct...? No..It's 8 weeks on a cycle then 2 weeks on a deload using a low dose of test. Then back on another 8 week cycle then 2 weeks on a deload usin gonly a low dose of test. Then pct with hcg for 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]above

[Ronnie Rowland]

In a deload, can i simply lower the dosages of the same compounds i just used on a blast for a week or two then go back on an eight week blast with higher dosages?

Absolutely!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ron

Just want to say first off what a great read this whole thread has been! I've been working out now nautrally for over a decade, I'm 30 just for anyones info and bar the odd stupid and very uneducated oral cycle when I was in my mid twenties which I dont count in my training I'd become incredibly stagnated up until reading your thread and reseraching you on the net over the past 6 months. Its been a real eye opener reading your answers and the general feedback you've had from other guys posting on here so thanks for taking the time on here for us all. THANK YOU!
My question for you is... I've recently just finished my first 20 week sling shot cycle composed of 500mg test E. and 500mg Eq (bad choice I know now). My reload should have gone up to 750mg of test but I held back for reasons below. My training over the twenty week period is probably the best its ever been due to the test I imagine and that I've followed your training regime religiously. Although I've not used the scales once in the twenty week period my lean body mass compared to when I started has been a quite remarkable I must say from just using the mirror as my guide. Yes! Using the mirror as opposed to the scales is the best approach! A lot of people gain fat and water and think it's lean muscle.I dont know my exact body fat percentage before but I would hazzard a guess I was around 14% starting out and I probably finished up maybe around 10%. My stats are 5ft 9'' 184lbs currently. See photo attached. The problem I seem to have come across and I dont know if its just me being a bit green around the gills is that while on the cycle I noticed I was losing a substantial amount of hair from my scalp in the shower and on my pillow in the mornings, even running my hands through my hair at times.. I would guess three times the amount as to when I'm training naturally, it was that noticable. Now as far as I'm aware I certainly have no signs of male pattern baldness and I never have in fact I have very thick head of hair.
I know this must sound vain but I take great care in my apprearance as I'm sure most of the guys on here do but at the same time I don't want to risk a decent head of hair for an extra 15-20lbs of muscle. I have no desire to compete as of yet if ever given my current issue but I'd like to know from you is this something I am over worrying about? Now I know if your going to go bald its in your genes so I am willing to settle for that eventaully but if I can stop it from happening earlier then I'm going to like anyone. Basically is this something you see or get asked alot on? YES! I know your not a fan of propecia and I second that with you as I don't want to screw my sex drive up as my girl friend would never forgive me! lol. At the same time though I feel like I really need to combat my DHT levels on or in my scalp region while cycling otheriwsue I think juicing I hate to say just isn't goin to be a life style choice for me is it.
Really hope you can lift the lid on this with as much advice as possible and any previous expierence with clients would be appreciated as I really dont want to give up cycling when I havent even really started...I would use 50-60 mgs of anavar per day as your main anabolic and keep test at 1/2 cc per week and then you should be fine. Steer clear of deca and propecia if you want a sex drive. Primobolan is another option but is often counterfeit and very expensive.



Jay

above..You look great!

[dally_de]

WOW Ron, awesome thread... it is 4 consecutive days that i am reading this thread ,but i have decided to write not because i do not fully understand all the terms in here and it could be just more ideal if i just ask your advice ...
i am 30 year old man ,loving this sport and practicing it for almost 12 years ( do not ask me for diet and protein intake and all that ) ) i am 1.83cm tall and 92kg, bf probably around 15-20% ..in the past 3 years i was on/off gym because of work and now from about 2months i am back on and planning to stay..in all this time i did 3 cycles of sustanon 250 for 8 weeks each with decent gains . i want to start another 20week cycle but my problem now is that i have tooooo much information from here that i can't decide what would be best to proceed ...i would like that first reload to be a bulk cycle and in the second to include a cutting product as well (not sure how to proceed with the cutting/lean mass cycle


i am thinking at this :
reload: test e 500mg /week - week 1-8
deca 400mg /week - week 1-8/ or EQ 200mg?

deload: test E 250mg/week week 9-10

reload: test E 750mg/week w11-18
masteron 200mg/week 11-18 ???? (for cutting ) ??


pct : PCT: Weeks 20-21
hCG at 2500 iu eod for 2 weeks
clomid at 50 mgs once per day for 4 weeks
nolva 20 mgs per day for 4 week

thank you Ron ...

[daniel20]

Hi Ronnie, what would you recommend for a 2nd 20 week blast?
I can get ANY compounds. (Definitely want to stay away from deca though!)

Was thinking this however:
Week 1-8 Test E 750mg
Week 9-10 Test E 250mg

Week 11-18 Test E 1g
Week 19-20 Test E 250mg

Week 21-23 HCG 2500iu EOD

I weight 205lb at ~8% bf and for my next blast I will be consuming around 400g protein, 250g carb and 70g fat. Is there anything you would change? Up the carbs? I read you believe most only need 250-350g carbs a day.

Am I correct to start a 20 week blast 10 weeks post last cycle? (including pct).

Also my source has test e 600mg/ml! What are your thoughts on this?? Would save large volume injections!

Also what are your thoughts on 1-Test Cypionate ?

Thanks again.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron,

Great Post......

I have a couple of questions so you can help me out.

my stats are
41 years old
167 lbs
5'-9"
19% BF

I have done a previous cutting cycle of triple stack for 2 months when I was 26% BF and went down to 17% BF. It was Prop, Tren and Masteron . This was 1 year ago

I normally run TRT at 1/2 to 3/4 Test once EW.

2 months ago I did 1/2 cc of Prop and 1/2 cc of Tren Mondays and Thursdays total 200mg EW and dieted real well and drop back down to 19% BF. When I saw that I shred pretty good with my diet and working out, i decided to bulk up for Jan and Feb then do a cutting cycle right after. The STS program seems to work well for me so I can bulk then run another blast and cut.

I started on Jan 1, Monday which was 100mg of Prop and 1cc of T400
My Next shot was Wed with 100mg of Prop
And I was planning for Friday 1cc of Equipose which its 300 or 350mg I have to check.

My questions are:
When I was running the 200mg of Prop 2 months ago should I have done a PCT or a Prime when I finished and started Jan 1? 200 MGS OF PROP PER WEEK IS ENOUGH TO SHUT YOU DOWN SO YES A PCT WOULD BE IN ORDER IF YOU GO OFF. PCT IS A PRIME AND SHOULD BE DONE FOR 4-6 WEKS BEFORE GOING BACK ON CYCLE.
Is Prop, T400 and Equipose good for Bulking? You need to use a fairly high dose of test to make great gains. Any test will work! 750-1 gram per week is a good dosage for most recreational lifters. EQ is way over-rated IMO. Anavar is more potent than EQ!
Is the amount Im taking ok for maximum results? NO!
If Test E better with Equipose I dont mind changing over ( less pinning I figure) Test-e is certainly better than EQ!
I want to maximise my growth will Im on the blast, do you recommend hitting the muscles 2 times a week as in your 5 day 2 times work out? No! I would train your muscles only once a week for maximimal gains. Training the muscles twice a week is just something to do on occasion to change things up but once a week muscle training is superior as a baseline.
I want to Bulk not really cut until the second blast, what are the percentages you recommend as a clean bulk 30% Protein, 40% Carbs, 30% Fats is that correct? I would go with 40% protein, 40% carbs and 20% fats.
Also when I build up to the size I like what do you recommend as for maintenance, can we continue with a regular TRT and maybe a couple blast every year? You can do that!
Thanks for your help.
D

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey misterD,

I've also noticed rons absence... Hope he's doing well.

I'm a little confused about your cycle. U stated u shoot 300mg prop a? What is prop a? And if your shooting 300mg eod that's over a gram per week of just prop! That's a pretty high dose as it is added to the other test blend you have injected. It's just like sustanon , it will become a blend in your system.

Also IMO, eq is a waste and the negative sides outweigh the gains, however- I believe eq is said to be best doses between 400-600mg weekly but more than 600 would yeild no better gains.

In regards to your diet question, yes- add the Cals to your daily total. They are in fact Cals in, however you ingest them

Hope I was able to help, cheers

Sorry for my absense. I was pre-occupied writing a handbook for PREMIER FITNESS-- (personal training company).