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03-14-2013, 12:09 PM #4921
An enlightening read no doubt, thanks for this!
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03-14-2013, 11:22 PM #4922Junior Member
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Ron,
de-loading right now but dont have gear yet to blast at higher dosages after these 2 weeks, so deload will prolong to 4 maybe 6 weeks, then blast again, is this ok? I'll basically just be cruising.
Just continue eating and training like a de-load until i can blast in 4 weeks?Last edited by totallyok3d; 03-19-2013 at 07:46 PM.
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03-14-2013, 11:25 PM #4923Junior Member
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just got a new hcg source so able to run it now. (havn't used hcg at all this last reload). Now de-loading, how would you dose the HCG? wait for PCT or starting using it through de-load nd next re-load? I would like to use it now, my testicles seem totally outa commishLast edited by totallyok3d; 03-19-2013 at 07:47 PM.
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03-14-2013, 11:42 PM #4924Junior Member
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ron,
here's what i have for my deload routine, looking to maximize it and see if you could put your knwoledge in to improve it . my chest and legs started taking great form after this last blast, i dont have any complaitns besides my abs look far more smaller then compard to the rest of my body and not really poking out.
deload routine -
1) chest/abs
2) delts/traps/abs
3) off
4) back/bis/abs
5)off
6)legs/tris/abs
7)off
large muscle groups 6-8sets, small 4-6sets. keeping intensity and weight heavy. should i focus more on 4 sets for small muscle groups or 6, 4 just seems like so litte. same with large muscle grousp.
looks odd now that i put it on paper, how should i switch it aroudn?
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03-14-2013, 11:47 PM #4925Junior Member
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how often would you implement cardio during deload? I prefer HIIT cardio, and still looking to get leaner so eating below maintenace cals during deload ok?
Last edited by totallyok3d; 03-19-2013 at 07:50 PM.
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03-15-2013, 08:34 PM #4927
how do you get started even on a cycle. Im from small town back woods USA hah..i know nothing about them
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03-15-2013, 08:36 PM #4928Originally Posted by dhclark420
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03-16-2013, 01:32 AM #4929Junior Member
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thoughts on honey for post and pre workout?
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03-16-2013, 01:34 AM #4930Junior Member
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ron ,
for maximum stimulating muscle growth am i looking for a intense pump with light weight proper form or focus more on heavy weight with proper form because i can get solid reps with heavy weight and proper form but don't have as much of a pump as compared to when I use lighter weight and focus on the stretch and squueze?
i get different answers from everybdy i ask this question from
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03-18-2013, 04:23 PM #4931Banned
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thoughts on carb loading............. every 4 days????
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Theres no value in using clomid during a deload and nolvadex is needed only if you have been using it during a reload. You should still be taking a little test throughout entire deload. Everything else looks fine.
Last edited by Ronnie Rowland; 03-20-2013 at 05:28 AM.
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You can run it in both but I would not go above 150-200 mgs of tren per week during first deload. 200 mgs of tren is equivalent to 1 gram of test minus the water weight.
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250 twice a week if you are going to start now. If you don't want kids then skip hcg altogether because having shrunken testicles is no big deal.
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03-20-2013, 06:12 AM #4939
how do you recommend cutting bodyfat from bulking if your primary goal is to add lbm? bulking reload, deload, bulking reload, deload cutting reload? rinse and repeat?
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03-20-2013, 06:24 AM #4940Junior Member
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thanks ron!
i actually do wnt kids, ive only been on test at 500mg for about 4 months now cruising. You think i will still be ok starting hcg next week and running it all the way until i pct with clomid to increase fertility?
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03-22-2013, 09:39 AM #4943Banned
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big props to ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!his answers are.....never condescending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-22-2013, 09:40 AM #4944Banned
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ron...ever okay...16 sets for chest???
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03-22-2013, 11:49 AM #4945Banned
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causes of.. tren headaches???????
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03-22-2013, 06:12 PM #4946Junior Member
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Should i use short esters or long ?
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03-22-2013, 07:45 PM #4947Junior Member
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what causes dbol headaches? how do you counteract?
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03-22-2013, 07:47 PM #4948Junior Member
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ron,
been off gear completley for 2 weeks cause of travelling. while traveling later in the weeks i was getting morning wood every morning and sleeping great. why is it that when i wasnt pinning since a week ago of 250 test e anything i was getting morning wood and feeling better?
now that i started back on deload of 250mg a week im sleeping crummy, my skins getting a bit oily again, hormones changing?
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03-22-2013, 07:56 PM #4949Junior Member
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appreciate your support ron
Last edited by totallyok3d; 03-26-2013 at 10:58 AM.
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What I have found to be effective is carb cycling. Re duce carbs to around 150-200 a day 5 times per week. Utilize a small carb up on we'd (50 grams). On sat drop protein by half and bump up carbs to around 600. Continue reloading and reloading. When deloading either add cardio or increase cardio. Keep sets at higher volume high during reloads.
Last edited by Ronnie Rowland; 03-23-2013 at 06:02 AM.
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Dehydration, lack of sleep, high blood pressure and just the nature of tren itself can cause headaches and brain fog. Tren can also can cause people to become fatigued,paranoid,irritable, anxious, depressed,and have jealous tendencies to their significant other. It's a very effective drug for building lean muscle but has some strange side effects. It's still safer than anadrol and dbol IMO but not as effective for producing strength gains.
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Mostly caused from high blood pressure. Stay off salt, high carbs, and drink more fluids. Some people need to use high blood pressure meds while on dbol . Some people feel good on dbol but others feel like crap and lose their libido and experience weak orgasms. It affects everyone differently.
For non competitors looking to feel good,add some size, not risk ruining their health, and have a nice libido it's hard to beat test and proviron . Most will find the more powerful anabolics cause more side effects. It's a trade off. I am a firm believer that more test and using less of the other anabolics is much safer and allows people to feel good.
Unless someone is competing I feel it's in their best interest to take the safest route that makes them feel good and provides a good libido. There's no value in having big muscles if you destroy your health, feel like crap, and have a sub par sex life. I see people jumping on 12 week cycles then losing most, if not all of it after coming off. They accomplish little to nothing and they seem to do more harm than good! It's better to stay on long term with safe drugs like test that you get along with instead of yo- yoing up and down by going on a cycyle then doing a pct. Only exception might be those wanting kids. I think some people think hitting it hard then coming completely off is safer but I strongly disagree. If you want to hit it hard don't come off entirely but rather use something like test and proviron long term,in lower dosages to maintain most of your gains! There's no value in blowing up then coming off everything and losing all the gains. It's a lifestyle change that needs to be taken seriously and no one does just one cycle!
Reloading with moderate dosages of test and deloading with hrt can be done safely as a life style without all the ups and downs we see with some recreational lifters who get on a heavy cycle for 12 weeks then stop cold turkey and pct. I have seen a lot of depression and sexual dysfunction from that method and it's not a good route to take if you can avoid it. It's best to stay on pretty much year round IMO!Last edited by Ronnie Rowland; 03-23-2013 at 09:02 PM.
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03-23-2013, 12:08 PM #4958Junior Member
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ron you're the man!
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03-23-2013, 12:11 PM #4959Junior Member
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ron,
You say it is best to stay on a low dose of test all year long but say its counteractive for those who want kids? I want to train all year roun and stay on at low dosages to maintain my gains. but i want to have kids later in life as well.
if using hcg properly and clomid when I pct am i still risking being infertile? what can i do to esnure i can still have kids later in life when that time comes? is it still possible to have kids if i am training and on gear for multiple years before i try to hve kids?
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03-23-2013, 12:18 PM #4960Junior Member
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thanks ron
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