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[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=briansvk;6350656]Hi Ronnie.

I have read your threads about slingshot training and I am really interested in trying these principles during my next offseason. On 13.4.2013 I have national competition here and next year will be last junior year for me so I want to qualify for Europe or World championship 2014. Hopefully slingshot training will help me to achieve this. But I have few questions I have to ask, because I do not fully understand some principnes.

Starting with the training. Last year I have been training 3+1 so 3 days training with 1 day rest. During two of these three day "training units" I trainer full body, but chest, delts and back has been trained twice, arms and legs once. This is because I have very good genetics for arms and legs, but lacking chest and back and this principle brought results for me, so may I use similar principle for slingshot? Yes you can! Some people find that training their weak areas respond best to training them very intense only once a week, while others do best training their weak areas twice a week. It's an individualistic matter.

For example: legs, chest+back, delts, free day, chest+back, delts, arms, free day, repeat.

During 8 week RELOAD phase I would train 2 heavy exercise with 4 working sets (6-8 reps.) and one lighter exercise (10-15 reps.) for each muscle group. Afterwards during DELOAD phase the split remains the same, but I would reduce training volume to two exercise with 3 sets each, one heavy one lighter for each muscle group. How does this sound so far? If you are doing twice a week muscle group training, I would not exceed over 6 work sets per workout for muscle groups like the biceps,triceps, quads, calves, hams and chest. Delts and back are a little different. For exampe you have back width muscles which could be compared to the quads and back thickness muscles that could be compared to the hamstrings. So for back you can do a total of 6 sets for lat width and 6 sets for lat thickness twice a week. That's a total of 24 sets for lats weekly. However, this can cause over-training for some and more is not always better. I also seperate the anterior and medial head of the delts from the rear delts. The reason being is when you do exercises like dumbbell shoulder preses you are working both the front and side heads of the delts (more front than the sides). And of course lateral raises work the side head only. The rear head only gets worked with rows and reverse flyes and I like to seperate those areas. You also have to be careful not to over-train your shoulders to prevent rotator cuff injury. A training split like 2 days on/1 day off or 3 days on/2 days off will help prevent over-training better than 3 days on/1 day off.

Ok lets move on... supplementation and AS:

Talking about supplements I am using whey protein (with added maltodextrin after training), glutamine and BCAAs all year long. Vitamines and minerals are added if needed.

AS:

last year I did according to principle heavy cycle and bridging. Example is here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...es-in-between) I think you have seen this before.

I would like to edit this to match slingshot principles. But the main question I have here is: If I will be using for example Test E with Boldenone (Equipoise ) or trenbolone hexa, which all are long esters.. How do I reduce the AS use during the DELOAD phase? Just back off to 250 mgs of test-e weekly for those two weeks.

For example I will be using 1g Test E/week (this will be base) with 500mg EQ/week for 8 weeks as RELOAD phase. You desperately need to add tren-e in addition to test-e and eq if you want to compete at a national level. Than the DELOAD come, so I should reduce AS use for example to 500mg test E/week only... But will this have ANY effect at all? yes! Speaking of long esters, so the levels will hardly drop during those 2 DELOAD weeks. Or am I getting something wrong?

Or, to get full shocking effect for the body for the next RELOAD I will bring test back UP to 1g/week and replace second ester for example with tren hexa? Or Deca ? Would it be any better comparing to continue as previous reload with 1g Test E/week with 500mg EQ/week for another 8 weeks? 1 gram of test, 500 mgs of eq and 300 mgs of tren-e weekly is a solid first reload cycle. A solid second cycle is 1 gram of test, 1 gram of eq and 500 mgs of tren. I would also recommend adding 300 mgs of masterone weekly to each reload in order to keep estogen levels lower.
I totally understand how this works with short esters or orals for example 1g test E as base with TREN ace or something during reload and drop to 500mg test E for deload, so the short esters will be cleared from body in 2-3 days and the true nature of deload will be accomplished. But the long esters confuse me. Okay, you need to understand that long acting esters kick in just as fast as short acting esters but they just don't peak as high upfront. You don't want complete clearance of anabolics during deloads as it's too much hormonal fluctuation-hence causing anxiety, depression, etc.
And last question.. Would it be a good idea to run test E for 1g/week during reload and 500 or 400mg/week during deload all year long? Or would it be better approach to run for example like this: [B]If you try to micro manage too much it's not beneficial. Honestly, if you are trying to compete at a natitonal level, then your dosages are going to have to be high enough on the reload to dictate using 300-500 mgs of test when deloading. The cycles you have listed are fine for recreational bodybuilders but won't get you to the nationals and do well IMO. Most run TEST/TREN/D-BOL OR ANDROL AT HIGH DOSES TO GAIN SIZE. The next step is GH then SLIN.[/B].

1st reload:
1g/week test E
500mg/week EQ

1st deload
400mg/week test E

2nd reload
test E back to 1g/week
500mg/week Tren ace

2nd deload
50mg test prop/EOD

3rd reload
100mg test prop/EOD
winstrol or drostanolone or primobolan or something milder

3rd deload
50mg test prop/EOD

4th reload
1g/week test E again or greater doses again

My basic idea in this principle would be to let the body rest a bit for one reload/deload round from strong anabolics. And repeat this for example like I wrote 2 heavy reload/deload cycles following one milder. What do you think about this. Thanks a lot for your opinion. I woud keep it simple and reload hard and deload with only 250 mgs of test if you use low dosed reloads or use 500 mgs of test if you reload using high doses of test,eq, and tren![/QUOTE]above

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=rblue;6352995]Ron, sorry if you covered this before but I cant find it. If I'm staying on year round do I need hcg ? I'm 50 did my first cycle at 48,never used hcg. I'm on my second deload now and plan on going up to at least a gram of test e and 600mg of deca on my next reload. Also you stated that ai use should be limited but others on this forum said that ai use is a must. I know when I take adex my joints ache from it.Thanks for your information and knowledge, greatly appreciated. My joints ache like crazy on new generation anti-es but do great on Masterone![/QUOTE]Shoot me a pm for hcg supplier.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron,

My next show is going to be on Sunday, 10th of March (7 weeks to go). I'm in the middle of slingshot contest prep cycle using Sustanon , Tren , Winstrol , Proviron , Clen and T3.
You said that it's best to stop sustanon 4 weeks out due to the decanoate ester it contains. Correct!
I take 750mg of sustanon per week. The schedule is on Sunday morning, Tuesday night, Friday morning, then back to Sunday morning again for the next week...

What would be the best day to stop the sustanon? on Sunday morning at 4 weeks exact point before the show day? or on Friday (4 weeks + 2 days before show day)? FRIDAY + 2 days before show is a good planFYI, I'm not switching to test prop for this time because on last show I switched from sustanon to prop for the last 4 weeks and my body was still holding water. That's why I'm just gonna stop the sustanon at this time and double dose the tren, winstrol and proviron for the last 4 weeks when I take out the sustanon. I agree!

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=uafb3844;6358005]Need advice division one college football player trying to do whatever I can to get an advantage on my opponents. I recently purchased anadrol 50 and was wondering whether or not it's right for me. I'm 6 feet 231 pounds. Squat 500 plus deep bench 300 plus. I'm looking to look bigger but also trim some body fat at the same time, I was just wondering is this what's right for me or should I be looking elsewhere? Anadrol is great for size/strength given you add in some test. [/QUOTE]above

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron...will as little as say 250 mgs...tren ..cause asthma to worsen....asthmatics?? Any amount of tren will worsen asthma symptoms.nThe more you take the worse it gets! I experimented with 50 mgs 3x week back in the day and that was enough to affect my breathing. That's only 150mgs weekly. Tren, mast, test, caebergoline at 05mgs 2x week and 5mgs of cialis daily increased my libido like no other but the side effects from tren are bad for me. I only used it pre-contest which is a must IMO if at all possible.

above

[REBORN52]

Ronnie,

I'm trying your method and I've just started my second reload. I was skeptical about my receptors being ready, but after 2-3 weeks on a low Test 250 dose, they were.

A question I have for you that's not completely related to this is about treating gyno while on a blast. I'm not 100% sure I have gyno, but feel I might. So on this reload I'm using Stane as an AI and running Ralox at 80 mg's a day just in case. Will this treat it while on cycle if in fact I do have gyno? Two, will this hinder my gains in any way, and should I wait until my blast is over to try to treat and just use an AI the entire time to keep from progressing?

I really like the program, and have saw a big improvement over the last 12 weeks. I really appreciate all the insight, as it's been instrumental in getting this 37 year old to looking and feeling right....

[Steel Addict]

I have been using HCG for almost a month now during my Test/Var/Mast cycle. It says on the bottle that it expires after 30 days once opened. I still have a fair amount left. I keep it in fridge. Does it loose potency after 30 days mark or can I keep on using it ?

[The Titan99]

Hey Ron,
I've had some personal set backs (thanks for being there for me man) and suffice it to say my diet has consisted of balogna, cheese, white bread, pizza, beer, vodka, valium etc. I think I'm very close to the end of my cycle (Test E & P/NPP/Masteron /Proviron ). I've not trained or eaten anything healthy in 10 or more days and generally feel like hell on all levels (as you know). I'm going to try to go back to the gym tomorrow. Keeping in mind I also had my leg hairline fractured about 8 weeks ago, would you suggest a full deload, a prime (I feel like I've done that), or move right along to Test A/Tren A/Masteron P/Tbol. I feel like I could really use the new cycle right now and I don't really need too much spare time on my hands, then again I'm not really trusting my own judgement these days...

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron,
I've had some personal set backs (thanks for being there for me man) and suffice it to say my diet has consisted of balogna, cheese, white bread, pizza, beer, vodka, valium etc. I think I'm very close to the end of my cycle (Test E & P/NPP/Masteron/Proviron). I've not trained or eaten anything healthy in 10 or more days and generally feel like hell on all levels (as you know). I'm going to try to go back to the gym tomorrow. Keeping in mind I also had my leg hairline fractured about 8 weeks ago, would you suggest a full deload, a prime (I feel like I've done that), or move right along to Test A/Tren A/Masteron P/Tbol. I feel like I could really use the new cycle right now and I don't really need too much spare time on my hands, then again I'm not really trusting my own judgement these days...

I think you should just do a test only cycle for now (the feel good cycle) until this tough time passes. Try 1 gram of test per week and add 50 mgs of proviron daily to keep e2 levels in check. Let 's just get you back on the saddle and riding again before racing.

[The Titan99]

I think you should just do a test only cycle for now (the feel good cycle) until this tough time passes. Try 1 gram of test per week and add 50 mgs of proviron daily to keep e2 levels in check. Let 's just get you back on the saddle and riding again before racing.

Good idea as always Ron. Last thing I need now is big dose of Tren sleeplessness right? 1 quick one though. I just finished 2 grams of Test, 1000 Test E and 1000 Test P, 900 Mast P and 900 NPP. Are you sure 1 gram is cool? I've been reloading/deloading for 18 months now. Going to start your suggestion now by just leaving the Test E and dropping everything but the Proviron if you don't suggest a higher dose. Thanks a million man.

BTW, I have enough Masteron E to float a battleship.

[Richazel]

Hi Ronnie, I have read your whole article and it is pretty enlightening to say the least. Its nothing like what I have been told time and time again. Thanks very much. I would just like to ask. I am 33 years old, 6ft tall 180 lbs and am getting ready to start supplementing with aas for the first time. What would you suggest exactly to do for me as I obviously need to gain mass.
I have been reading and researching for over a year now before I decided to do it. I dont want to yo yo up and down like my friends do who are not knowledgeable . I really want to make sure I do this correctly and efficiently. What would the first 6 mos look like cycle wise if you were me? thanks in advance,

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie,

I'm trying your method and I've just started my second reload. I was skeptical about my receptors being ready, but after 2-3 weeks on a low Test 250 dose, they were. It's quite amazing how the bodies action/reaction factors can occur in two short weeks!A question I have for you that's not completely related to this is about treating gyno while on a blast. I'm not 100% sure I have gyno, but feel I might. So on this reload I'm using Stane as an AI and running Ralox at 80 mg's a day just in case. Will this treat it while on cycle if in fact I do have gyno? Yes, Ralox is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator and will help with gyno. Two, will this hinder my gains in any way, and should I wait until my blast is over to try to treat and just use an AI the entire time to keep from progressing? Of course running new generation anti-es can hurt gains (does and individual dependant). I would try using 300 mgs of masteron weekly or 50 mgs of proviron daily and lower the Ralox in half or don't use it at all unless you absolutely have to due to gyno. Drugs like proviron not only help lower estrogen levels but also magnify the anabolic effects of test due to elevated free test levels (the ones that count most for building muscle!)
I really like the program, and have saw a big improvement over the last 12 weeks. I really appreciate all the insight, as it's been instrumental in getting this 37 year old to looking and feeling right....

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

I have been using HCG for almost a month now during my Test/Var/Mast cycle. It says on the bottle that it expires after 30 days once opened. I still have a fair amount left. I keep it in fridge. Does it loose potency after 30 days mark or can I keep on using it ? No, it should not lose its potency in 30 days as long as it is refrigerated. You could do a pergnancy test on it to find out for sure. It's best to not mix it all at once because there is usually a longer exp date on the water than the hcg.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Good idea as always Ron. Last thing I need now is big dose of Tren sleeplessness right? 1 quick one though. I just finished 2 grams of Test, 1000 Test E and 1000 Test P, 900 Mast P and 900 NPP. Are you sure 1 gram is cool? Yes, I would take it easy for a while and give your body and mind a break. I would keep proviron in at 50 mgs daily. I've been reloading/deloading for 18 months now. Going to start your suggestion now by just leaving the Test E and dropping everything but the Proviron if you don't suggest a higher dose. Thanks a million man.

BTW, I have enough Masteron E to float a battleship.

above

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie, I have read your whole article and it is pretty enlightening to say the least. Its nothing like what I have been told time and time again. Thanks very much. I would just like to ask. I am 33 years old, 6ft tall 180 lbs and am getting ready to start supplementing with aas for the first time. What would you suggest exactly to do for me as I obviously need to gain mass. I would run 500 mgs of test weekly on reloads along with 300 mgs of masterone or 50 mgs of proviron until you plateau. Once you plateau I would add in 200 mgs of tren weekly along with the rest and go from there when reloading for 8 weeks. Orals work great for size/strength because they have to go through the liver. I am of the opinion that orals bind to Sex Hormone-Binding Globulin (SHBG) in the liver more so than injectables and that's how they produce more gains when stacked with injectables. But, orals tend to make one feel yucky, decreases libido, increases liver enzymes, and can wreak havoc on lipids. Proviron is the only oral steroid that does not tax the liver to a noticeable degree so it's good stuff IMO. Plus proviron lowers estrogens some, improves sex drive, and helps enhance free test levels to magnify other injectables. I am not a fan of deca because of it's sexual side effects but it can help pack on some mass if you can tolerate the side effects. I have been reading and researching for over a year now before I decided to do it. I dont want to yo yo up and down like my friends do who are not knowledgeable . I really want to make sure I do this correctly and efficiently. What would the first 6 mos look like cycle wise if you were me? thanks in advance,

above

[briansvk]

For example I will be using 1g Test E/week (this will be base) with 500mg EQ/week for 8 weeks as RELOAD phase. You desperately need to add tren-e in addition to test-e and eq if you want to compete at a national level.

Or, to get full shocking effect for the body for the next RELOAD I will bring test back UP to 1g/week and replace second ester for example with tren hexa? Or Deca ? Would it be any better comparing to continue as previous reload with 1g Test E/week with 500mg EQ/week for another 8 weeks? 1 gram of test, 500 mgs of eq and 300 mgs of tren-e weekly is a solid first reload cycle. A solid second cycle is 1 gram of test, 1 gram of eq and 500 mgs of tren. I would also recommend adding 300 mgs of masterone weekly to each reload in order to keep estogen levels lower.

And last question.. Would it be a good idea to run test E for 1g/week during reload and 500 or 400mg/week during deload all year long? Or would it be better approach to run for example like this: If you try to micro manage too much it's not beneficial. Honestly, if you are trying to compete at a natitonal level, then your dosages are going to have to be high enough on the reload to dictate using 300-500 mgs of test when deloading. The cycles you have listed are fine for recreational bodybuilders but won't get you to the nationals and do well IMO. Most run TEST/TREN/D-BOL OR ANDROL AT HIGH DOSES TO GAIN SIZE. The next step is GH then SLIN..

My basic idea in this principle would be to let the body rest a bit for one reload/deload round from strong anabolics. And repeat this for example like I wrote 2 heavy reload/deload cycles following one milder. What do you think about this. Thanks a lot for your opinion. I woud keep it simple and reload hard and deload with only 250 mgs of test if you use low dosed reloads or use 500 mgs of test if you reload using high doses of test,eq, and tren!

above

All right, so if I got this right...

According to this principle it is totally all right to run lets say 1g-1,5g/week of test ALL YEAR LONG? With 500mg-1g EQ + some Tren or drostanolone... Of course with deload breaks every 8 weeks for 2 weeks... ??? There is no need to drop test to lower doses for more than two weeks? Wont the body adapt to this dose and respond with more sides and less muscle building effect? Should the accompanying drugs be changes at least every two reloads? Or how often? Above you wrote an example for first and second reload, so third should contain EQ/tren again or it is better to switch? I am a little bit concerned about sides - running tren so long etc.. (maybe it is not a problem, I just want statement from experienced person ).

Another question... Slin usage.. During bulking reloads it is clear, but should slin be usen during deloads? Or it should be omitted during deloads?

[The Titan99]

Got it. Thanks alot. Am implementing your plan immediately.

[Ronnie Rowland]

[QUOTE=briansvk;6370838]All right, so if I got this right...

According to this principle it is totally all right to run lets say 1g-1,5g/week of test ALL YEAR LONG? With 500mg-1g EQ + some Tren or drostanolone... Of course with deload breaks every 8 weeks for 2 weeks... ??? There is no need to drop test to lower doses for more than two weeks? Wont the body adapt to this dose and respond with more sides and less muscle building effect? 2 weeks is enough. Yo-Yoing off and on is hard on your immune, endocrine system, mind, joints, etc. Only go off for longer than 2 weeks every 6 months. 6 weeks off evey 6 months ia a good plan IMO for national level competitors! Should the accompanying drugs be changes at least every two reloads? Not really because consistency with anabolics, training and nutrition are what counts most,but I feel it's good practice to alternate between cycles of HIGH TEST/LOW TREN and HIGH TREN/LOW TEST given you can handle the side effects of high tren. Both drugs have their pros and cons! Or how often? Above you wrote an example for first and second reload, so third should contain EQ/tren again or it is better to switch? I am a little bit concerned about sides - running tren so long etc.. (maybe it is not a problem, I just want statement from experienced person )Tren, like Test can be used year round. After 6 months I would back off to 1/2cc of test e or c once a week and possibly keep a 1/2cc tren e with it to reset myostatin levels, etc. It's the Orals I would be concerned with so use them at the lowest dosage possible and use then every other reload and mostly when prepping for a show. Another thing is how your body does on tren verses test. Some do better using high amounts of test almost year round but can only handle small dosages of tren. Likewise, some do better using high dosages of tren almost year round and keep their test at small amounts-such as 1/2 to 1cc weekly. On occasion some reload using both high dosages of test and tren and just suffer through more side effects. It's going to be up to you to find out which scenario works best for your particular body chemistry. Take the route that produces the least sides. It's hard to beat test and tren for safe gains. Throw in some Masterone or proviron for estrogen control and to help release more "free test" and you will do better. Not a fan of running eq year round unless your hematocrit levels remain in check.





Another question... Slin usage.. During bulking reloads it is clear, but should slin be usen during deloads? Or it should be omitted during deloads? Insulin should be dropped during deloads! But, I would keep GH in all year round if you could afford it.[/QUOTE]Above

[kml999]

Hey Ronnie,
I am in the middle of my 3rd cycle 750mg test e and 400mg deca cycle (right now I’ve reached to 1g test e and 500 deca last wk). I have completed 12wks and the planned cycle was to take this cycle up to 20wks or even a bit more (that’s non STS), but now I have noticed that I hit a plateau. Diet is good, but having a hard time in maintaining fat. My body bulks really well when I eat fatty food. Tried high protein/high carb/low fat and high protein/moderate carb/high fat and my body responds better to higher fats better. Using 1-1.5IU of HGH to burn fat or at least maintain fat. I am having a hard time maintaining belly size even when. My stomach sticks out further every meal. My appetite is crazy. I can eat a whole meal and after 45mins I am craving for sweets or another meal. My TSH is within range but closer to the hyper end. Cardio is 30mins on workout days. Any longer and I get lactic acid in my front legs

Since I have other questions I will try to make it much easier for you to read:

1-During reload/deload period what is the recommended rest/break time taken between sets? 1 min? or maybe more? I hear people say don’t follow timing and listen to your heart rate or even better to monitor it.

2- Since I’m already on cycle I started with deload right now so I can get into the STS schedule. Since I was lifting hard and dosage were high for me this cycle decided to jump into the deload phase instead of the reload. Now should I deload using 250mg test or 500mg?

3- When I am back to reload (which will be my 1st) should I go back to deca or switch to another AAS? This is what I have with me Test E, Tren E, Mast E, EQ, Deca. All brewed and dosed properly. I even have short ester gear such as test p and dbol , but I like to do long estered gear this cycle just for simplicity.

4- Which routine looks better when bulking and muscle recovery? And does the rest days look fine?
A:
sat-chest
sun-triceps/biceps, calves
mon- shoulder, traps
tues- Back
wed- legs
thurs- off
frid-off

or

B
sat-chest/biceps
sun-shoulder, traps
mon- legs
tues- off
wed- back, triceps
thurs- off
fri- off

5- How would you follow the 6-12 sets rule if a particular day is a chest/bicep day? Just curious. Would it look like 3 chest exercises (4 sets each) and 3 biceps exercises (4 sets each)? now I know you stated 6-12 sets in the reload phase for each muscle group, but if you noticed that combo above shows two muscle groups, so if I follow the given example the total number of sets that day would be 12 chest sets + 12 bicep sets giving a total of 24 sets that day, which I have a feeling will burn me out. How to overcome this?

Looking forward to give the STS reload a try

[VASCULAR VINCE]

proviron ...or..masterone best????with test???

[briansvk]

proviron...or..masterone best????with test???

"...think of this compound is as something like "Oral Masteron ."
Is is basicly the same. And I would favor masterone (drostanolone propionate ).

[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie,
i am in the middle of my 3rd cycle 750mg test e and 400mg deca cycle (right now i’ve reached to 1g test e and 500 deca last wk). I have completed 12wks and the planned cycle was to take this cycle up to 20wks or even a bit more (that’s non sts), but now i have noticed that i hit a plateau. Diet is good, but having a hard time in maintaining fat. My body bulks really well when i eat fatty food. Tried high protein/high carb/low fat and high protein/moderate carb/high fat and my body responds better to higher fats better. Using 1-1.5iu of hgh to burn fat or at least maintain fat. I am having a hard time maintaining belly size even when. My stomach sticks out further every meal. My appetite is crazy. I can eat a whole meal and after 45mins i am craving for sweets or another meal. My tsh is within range but closer to the hyper end. Cardio is 30mins on workout days. right there is your problem-too much cardio! Cardio causes you to get hungry and carve sugar carbs! 2 to 3 days high intensity interval cardio a week at 10-15 minutes per session is plenty! any longer and i get lactic acid in my front legs

since i have other questions i will try to make it much easier for you to read:

1-during reload/deload period what is the recommended rest/break time taken between sets? 1 min? Or maybe more? I hear people say don’t follow timing and listen to your heart rate or even better to monitor it. I like around 90 seconds for smaller body parts and around 120 for medium size. For the largest msucles like legs i like 3 to 4 minutes on compound movements. Don't over think it.
2- since i’m already on cycle i started with deload right now so i can get into the sts schedule. Since i was lifting hard and dosage were high for me this cycle decided to jump into the deload phase instead of the reload. Now should i deload using 250mg test or 500mg? 250 is good
3- when i am back to reload (which will be my 1st) should i go back to deca or switch to another aas? This is what i have with me test e, tren e, mast e, eq, deca. All brewed and dosed properly. I even have short ester gear such as test p and dbol , but i like to do long estered gear this cycle just for simplicity. it's hard to beat a test/tren/mast combo!
4- which routine looks better when bulking and muscle recovery? And does the rest days look fine?
A:
Sat-chest
sun-triceps/biceps, calves
mon- shoulder, traps
tues- back
wed- legs
thurs- off
frid-off

or

b
sat-chest/biceps
sun-shoulder, traps
mon- legs
tues- off
wed- back, triceps
thurs- off
fri- off

try this-
chest/biceps
off
back/rear delts
off
shoulders/triceps/traps
legs
off
repeat

5- how would you follow the 6-12 sets rule if a particular day is a chest/bicep day? Just curious. Would it look like 3 chest exercises (4 sets each) and 3 biceps exercises (4 sets each)? 10 is good for chest. 10 is good for biceps. Snow i know you stated 6-12 sets in the reload phase for each muscle group, but if you noticed that combo above shows two muscle groups, so if i follow the given example the total number of sets that day would be 12 chest sets + 12 bicep sets giving a total of 24 sets that day, which i have a feeling will burn me out. How to overcome this? keep work sets around 20 total per session. If that does not work reduce work sets for major body parts like chest and biceps to 8. 12 sets would be the maximum for a body part like the chest and is not suitable for everyone. You need to list your entire routine with work sets for me to help on this.

looking forward to give the sts reload a try

above

[VASCULAR VINCE]

"...think of this compound is as something like "Oral Masteron ."
Is is basicly the same. And I would favor masterone (drostanolone propionate).

cool..

[VASCULAR VINCE]

does stacking steroids benefit the kidneys???

[The Titan99]

Hey Ron,
Thought I'd update you on my melanotan II trial. It works fantastically. Tanning is excellent with no burn whatsoever. Libido goes through the roof for both me and my girl (she's back BTW!!). She's been gone for 3 weeks as you know so that probably skewed the test results in that regard. Aside from that absolutely no side effects at all. From what I read there are a lot of fakes out there, but using a North American company with a good rep and a good money back guarantee goes a long way towards a quality product. Anyway, if you get a good one, the stuff is great!!

Quick question though. What's the least amount of Deca you can use in order to get the joint benefits it provides? Also could you just inject that once a week for this purpose.

[Ronnie Rowland]

does stacking steroids benefit the kidneys???

Yes! Stacking various steroids becomes far more important with higher dosages with compounds such as test, tren, mast, and d-bol because your kidneys have reached its capacity in being able to breakdown each compound.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron,
Thought I'd update you on my melanotan II trial. It works fantastically. Tanning is excellent with no burn whatsoever. Libido goes through the roof for both me and my girl (she's back BTW!!). She's been gone for 3 weeks as you know so that probably skewed the test results in that regard. Aside from that absolutely no side effects at all. From what I read there are a lot of fakes out there, but using a North American company with a good rep and a good money back guarantee goes a long way towards a quality product. Anyway, if you get a good one, the stuff is great!!

Quick question though. What's the least amount of Deca you can use in order to get the joint benefits it provides? Also could you just inject that once a week for this purpose. Usually 50-100 mgs will suffice. But,I have seen some who needed higher dosages like 200-400 mgs per week who had really bad joint pain . Once a week is fine.

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[VASCULAR VINCE]

saw palmetto lower sex drive????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

primobolan ... vs anavar ....for hair loss???????????????????????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

% of extra free test...taking proviron with test???????????????

[VASCULAR VINCE]

why tren .. hurts cardio???????

[slimshady01]

Lol Vince why don't you make one post with all your questions instead of 5 different posts.

[Ronnie Rowland]

saw palmetto lower sex drive???? Any drug or herb such as Saw Palmetto or Finestride that lowers DHT is going to lower your sex drive. Likewise, any drug that increases DHT such as masterone, proviron, and testosterone will increase sex drive.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Lol Vince why don't you make one post with all your questions instead of 5 different posts. I think Vinny does this because I asked people to spread out their questions if possible because sometimes I am at work and only have time to answer one question at a time.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

primobolan ... vs anavar ....for hair loss??????????????????????? No comparison! Anavar is much easier on the hairline. Primobolan is a DHT derivative and it can affect both the prostate and hair.

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[kml999]

Ronnie,
I did ask you about a workout routine, but last week I decided to dedicate each big muscle group alone and it seems to work for me. My chest is a bit behind compared to the other muscle groups so I decided to go with this plan:


Day 1 - Chest and Calves
Day 2 - Back
Day 3 - legs
Day 4 - Shoulder
Day 5 - Triceps, Biceps and shrugs
Day 6 - Off
Day 7 - Off

Anything wrong with the routine above? Or you think I should take a day off in between? I want to make sure I can take my gym off days during the weekend

I have a couple of days left to complete my deload and since I have Test E, Dbol , Mast E, Tren E, Eq and Deca

How should my dosages for the reload be for bulking that is? I know it’s not safe to take all of the above together, but I tried deca and honestly I wasn’t impressed and don’t know if tren is going to help me in gaining more weight? I believe you recommend test/tren/mast and came up with this:

1g Test E, 400mgs Tren E, 300mgs Mast E

[mockery]

Hey big Ron!

i know you are not a fan of volume training or twice a week training, but since i have a training partner for my next reload and deload. I really wanna focus on a frank Zane style routine. 3 on 1 off so body parts will be getting worked twice a week but using 75% of rep maxes weight. and 5 second negatives on the down phase. In setting up a volume style routine, should i be focused more or the number of sets im doing weekly or the reps i do weekly.

thanks

[VASCULAR VINCE]

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Hey Ron,
Thought I'd update you on my melanotan II trial. It works fantastically. Tanning is excellent with no burn whatsoever. Libido goes through the roof for both me and my girl (she's back BTW!!). She's been gone for 3 weeks as you know so that probably skewed the test results in that regard. Aside from that absolutely no side effects at all. From what I read there are a lot of fakes out there, but using a North American company with a good rep and a good money back guarantee goes a long way towards a quality product. Anyway, if you get a good one, the stuff is great!!

Quick question though. What's the least amount of Deca you can use in order to get the joint benefits it provides? Also could you just inject that once a week for this purpose.

Oh I forgot to say I am glad things are working out between you and your girl!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie,
I did ask you about a workout routine, but last week I decided to dedicate each big muscle group alone and it seems to work for me. My chest is a bit behind compared to the other muscle groups so I decided to go with this plan:


Day 1 - Chest and Calves
Day 2 - Back
Day 3 - legs
Day 4 - Shoulder
Day 5 - Triceps, Biceps and shrugs
Day 6 - Off
Day 7 - Off

Anything wrong with the routine above? Or you think I should take a day off in between? I want to make sure I can take my gym off days during the weekend

I have a couple of days left to complete my deload and since I have Test E, Dbol , Mast E, Tren E, Eq and Deca

How should my dosages for the reload be for bulking that is? I know it’s not safe to take all of the above together, but I tried deca and honestly I wasn’t impressed and don’t know if tren is going to help me in gaining more weight? I believe you recommend test/tren/mast and came up with this:

1g Test E, 400mgs Tren E, 300mgs Mast E

I would take off a day after legs to allow your CNS to recover. Also I don't like training large muscle groups like back and legs back to back. You could train chest day 1, back day 2, shoulders day 3, arms, day 4, legs day 5 then take 2 days off! Test/tren/mast and dbol will put some serious size on you. 25 mgs of Dbol would probably be enough. Test,deca and dbol works well also. I would choose test,tren,mast if dbol was not used. Test,deca, and mast would be my second option given no dbol was used.