You'll want to read this!

[delta1111]

where is the best spot to inject test enanthate?

In the ass. I do all my injections there, alternating from left to right cheek. Don't see the point in doing it anywhere else. Just make sure you use long needles as there is a lot of fat in those areas which you need to go through to reach muscle. Pretty much pain free unless you go through a vien or nerve and then its still not that bad.

[ricky23]

hi ronnie, hoping you could help - i have trouble putting thickness around the wrists etc. my arms and top of my forearms are bulky but i cant seem to add the thickness and denseness around the bottom of my forearms and wrists. my quads are calves are also very thick but then around the ankles i cant add bulk and it can get painful because its difficult for my wrists and ankles to support the mass. i think it may be because my weight has fluctuated over the years. i used to weigh around 180 pounds when i was 16-18 i then dropped to about 110 pounds and got very lean but weak i then bulked up to my weight now which is around 250 pounds at 21 years of age but its taken its toll i think as i cant go on the tradmill for over 10 mins without my ankles and shins hurting like hell. anything you could suggest?
also do you think that training a problem area at the end of the week say friday (if the weekend were off days) would be better as it would allow nutrients to be prioritised for those muscle groups because of the rest days. and also for that reason should carbs be kept high? i usually reduce them on off days but since ive kept them high ive noticed improvement. thankyou ronnie youre advice is very much appreciated. thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

i am currently running a testosterone suspension cycle (60 mg ed, 2/3 pins) with the addition of oxandrolone (70 mg ed).
Also, from the beginning i used mesterolone starting from 75 up to 150 mg ed.
Last week, on the same day i reached 90 mg ed of test susp and 150 mg ed of mest, i started to feel a strong tiredness, a severe lethargy which forced me not to work-out for a week almost.
I was waiting for my bw results and once i saw my estradiol was @ 150 (20-47) and my prl @ 15 (2-13), i thought my lack of energy was due to the high amount of estrogens accumulated, even because i never took any ai or serm till that day.
So, on the same day i started to take exemestane @ 25 mg ed and cabergoline first @ 0.25 mg ed then up to 0.5 mg ed. I also reduced the test susp to 60 mg ed and the mest to 100 mg ed.
The result after a week was nothing better than before. it's usually low estrogen not moderate increases that cause fatique. It's called steroid lethargy!so, i thought about getting rid of mesterolone, completely. I felt better during the day and slept better the following night and the tiredness disappeared. if that be the case then it's possible that the high dose off proviron (mesterolone) was not agreeing with you! 50 mgs ed would have probably be enough with the proviron.

so, since i am about to start week 8 of this cycle but have also put my hands on hgh, i am contemplating to keep going on with this cycle as per your suggestion on this thread with a deload and then a reload, adding of course somatropin to the aas. keep gh at the same dosages throughout both the reload and deload.

before writing down a possible cycle continuation, i would like to know from your experience if it is normal what happened to me in regard of mesterolone or if it happened because i used a testosterone without an ester on my very first cycle. i think you used a bit too much proviron and more so the esterless testosterone hits so hard it can cause flu like symptoms for some. I am not a huge fan of esterless test (especially prop) because it makes me feel very lethargic.
thank you for your expertise, much appreciate it.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks Ron. I don't mean to over analyze, I just want to make sure I do everything right, as aas is a serious commitment IMO. As for the arimidex I bumped up from .25 eod to .5 eod, the itchy nips went away the very next day, so I was wondering if it would be okay for me to lower it back down to .25 eod again and feel it out? Or is that a no no?

Always take as little anti-es as possible! Try lowering it back down to .25 eod and see what happens. You may find you can come off arimidex completely in a few weeks. I sure hope so!

[Ronnie Rowland]

thanks a lot ron. should i go injto another reload with test again or pct since its my first time using aas. if i pct what do you recommend?

Do a 20 week cycle before doing pct. Read through this thread to find the answers!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Im doing 400 mg enhantate 600 mg eq 300 mg primo a week, how's that cycle sound

What's your stats/pst cycling experience? Sounds like a very weak cycle to me!

[Ronnie Rowland]

read your post and you seem like the perfect person to ask for a bit of guidance.

about 5 years ago i tried this.
my fisrt cycle was only Dbol , but had no clue really what i was doing, then i went on to sustanon and deca , without really having any clue to that either in hind sight so results didn't really turn out that well.

Now i've decided to go on an oral only cycle and seems to me that anavar stacked with primobolan is the best cycle if you compare gains to side effects.

i'm 23 years old 6ft 3" 202 pounds.

looking to get ripped, build some size and strenght, any advise on an 8 week cycle including PCT?

thank you.

Please go read this thread if you want to learn how to do things properly. An oral only cycle is a very bad idea IMO. Test should always make up the base of any cycle!

[Ronnie Rowland]

well you guys are nice. Sorry if its bothering you ronnie i have one last question iof thats alright. Could you tell me if this is an alright first cycle:
Week 1-8 500mg test enanthate ew
week 9-10 250mg test enanthate
week 11-18 750mg test enanthate ew should be 11-20 weeks right here!
all throughout i take 25mg proviron twice a day
pct week 19-22 would be my deload and primer with nolvadex
is this a decent cycle for me? You need hcg and nolvadex for pct/GO READ MY PCT

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[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie your thoughts on this cycle before a show?

Week #1: 4 iu's gh/day; 4 x sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca durabolin ; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

week #2: 4 iu's gh/day; 5 x sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca durabolin ; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

week #3: 4 iu's gh/day; 5 x sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 2 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #4: 4 iu's gh/day; 6 x sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 2 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #5: 6iu's gh/day; 6 x sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 3 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #6: 6 iu's gh/day; 6 x sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. Workout) 3 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 200 mg. Caffeine tab

week #7: Off; 5000 iu hcg /day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol /day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. Caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. Only)

week #8: Off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. Caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. Only)

week #9: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate ; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol -v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 300 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #10: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 300 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)

week #11: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #12: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-v (50 mg. Each m-w-f); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #13: 6 iu's gh/day; 1200 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-v (100 mg. Each m-w-f); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #14: 6 iu's gh/day; 1500 mg. Test cypionate; 600 mg. Deca durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-v (100 mg. Each m-w-f); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


week #15: Off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)


**week #16: Off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x clenbuterol tab (sun, mon, tue only), 400 mg. Caffeine tab (a.m. Only)

next post!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie your thoughts on this cycle before a show?

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin ; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin ; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG /day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol /day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate ; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol -V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

A few thoughts up front-this pre-contest cycle makes zero sense too me! I would taper off deca 4-6 weeks out. Stop all slow acting test at least 2 weeks out from show unless using diurectic and letro. Keep in winstrol until morning of the show to stay hard and keep cortisol levels down. By taking out all steroids a week before the show you run the risk of coming in flat and puffy! Clenbuterol and ephedrine works on the same receptors so alternating the two fat burners in hopes of preventing adaption is not going to work. You should not take burners for 16 weeks straight (only 8-weeks max). Forget taking benadryl to upregulate receptors as it does not work! You should use letro instead of nolvadex during last 2-4 weeks as it gets rid of about 98% of all estrogen-hence helps with cuts and separation. Teslac would not be my first choice either as it's too weak. GH dosages should remain the same every week (6-8 ius ed for entire 16 weeks). above

[F4iGuy]

I need to get some new pictures up of my wife and I. We have made some nice progress over the past year.

[Archangel.]

Always take as little anti-es as possible! Try lowering it back down to .25 eod and see what happens. You may find you can come off arimidex completely in a few weeks. I sure hope so!

Thanks Ron! I'm 3 weeks into my first reload right now, and I already definitely notice awesome strength increases and some visual improvement as well. All of this while following your slingshot dieting outline! I can't imagine how much progress I'll make this winter when I bulk, which leads me to my next Q: What would be the ideal second blast? My first/current blast is test e only.

Test/deca ?
Test/tren ?
Test/masteron ?

You tell me, thanks for everything Ron

[BJJ]

above

Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.

Also, regarding my usual hormonal panel, is there anything YOU would have included that I instead missed?

GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
INSULIN : 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]_________________________________________12,45
FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]_________________________________________________?
FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ _1,62
MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48
FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55
LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15
PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68
SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6
ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150
ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12
IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159
HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]

[Ronnie Rowland]

In the ass. I do all my injections there, alternating from left to right cheek. Don't see the point in doing it anywhere else. Just make sure you use long needles as there is a lot of fat in those areas which you need to go through to reach muscle. Pretty much pain free unless you go through a vien or nerve and then its still not that bad.

You've got to inject other places than the glutes once you reach a certain level due to scar tissue build up. The lower-lateral delts and outer chest region is the best IMO!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge.

Also, regarding my usual hormonal panel, is there anything YOU would have included that I instead missed?

GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
INSULIN : 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]_________________________________________12,45
FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]_________________________________________________?
FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________ _1,62
MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48
FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55
LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15
PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68
SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6
ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150
ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12
IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159
HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]

Did they check your hemocrit levels? That's the biggie!

[Ronnie Rowland]

I've got some pics taken yesterday but they are on my wifes new cell phone and I am unable to down size the file and upload it to this site. If anyone knows how to do it before I go visit local ATT and have this phone set up propely I will gladly send them the pics by e-mail and allow them posted in this thread.

[Ronnie Rowland]

thanks ron! I'm 3 weeks into my first reload right now, and i already definitely notice awesome strength increases and some visual improvement as well. All of this while following your slingshot dieting outline! I can't imagine how much progress i'll make this winter when i bulk, which leads me to my next q: What would be the ideal second blast? My first/current blast is test e only.

Test/deca ?
Test/tren ?
Test/masteron ?

2nd cycle: Test/deca
3rd cycle: Test/tren
4th cycle: Test and add masteron with either deca or tren

you tell me, thanks for everything ron

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[BJJ]

Did they check your hemocrit levels? That's the biggie!

Well, this is what I have done:
No HCT or PCV check but a cross check between MCV and RDW.
Not enough in your opinion?

The following results after:

38 Days of Testosterone Suspension averaged at 73,94 mg ed.
38 Days of Mesterolone averaged at 88,81 mg ed.
17 Days of Oxandrolone averaged at 68,82 mg ed.

Never used any AI or SERM so far.
?: awaiting results

__________________________________________________ _________________Day 38

BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,08 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]______________________________________4,65
LEUCOCYTES: 7,6 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________14,4
- NE: 4,2 / 55,9 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]
- LY: 2,5 / 35 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]
- MO: 0,7 / 8,7 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]
- EO: 0,3 / 2,5 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]
- BA: 0 / 0,6 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]
HEMOGLOBIN: 15,1 gr/dl [14 - 18]___________________________________________13,2
HEMATOCRIT: 44,2 % [42 - 52]_____________________________________________39,8
MCV: 87 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________85,6
MCH: 29,7 picogr. [27 - 31]________________________________________________28,4
MCHC: 34,2 gr/dl [32 - 36]_________________________________________________33,2
RDW: 13,7 % [11,6 - 16]
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 65,7 % [37 -80]________________________________________76,4
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,8 % [0,0 - 7]_________________________________________0,5
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,9 % [0,0 - 2,5]_________________________________________0,8
LYMPHOCYTES: 23,4 % [10 - 50]____________________________________________16
MONOCYTES: 7,2 % [0,0 - 12]______________________________________________6,3
PLATELETS: 150000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]_________________________________362000
PCT: 0,13 % [0,1 - 1]
MPV: 7,5 fl [5 - 10]
PDW: 17,5 % [12 - 18]

HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLYCEMIA (basal): 91 mg/dl [70 - 110]

QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 71 % [70-130]
INR: 1,2
APTT: 28 s
FIBRINOGEN: 190 mg/dl [180 - 350]
HOMOCYSTEINE: 11 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]
MYOGLOBIN: 27 ng/ml [10 - 46]

AZOTEMIA: 62 mg/dl [15-40]______________________________________________46
CREATININE: 1,1 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]__________________________________________1,2
HYPERURICEMIA: 6 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 156 mg/dl [140 - 220]___________________________________142
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 35 mg/dl [20 - 40]
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 103 mg/dl [< 150]_______________________________________130
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 35 mg/dl [> 40]_________________________________________12
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,5 [till 5]________________________________________________11,8
APO A1: 190 mg/dl [115 - 220]
APO B: 79 mg/dl [55 - 125]
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]
TRIGLYCERIDES: 90 mg/dl [< 150]

GAMMA (YGT): 32 u/ltr [15 - 85]___________________________________________27
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 96 u/ltr [50 - 136]_________________________________57
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1 mg/dl [0,2-1]
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,25 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 0,67 mg/dl [till 0,7]
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 26 u/ltr [15 - 37]__________________________________63
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 62 u/ltr [30 - 65]__________________________________104
FERRITIN: 125 ng/ml [24 - 336]

LIPASE: 324 u/ltr [114 - 284]______________________________________________234
AMYLASE: 69 u/ltr [25 - 115]______________________________________________66

LDH: 170 u/ltr [100 - 190]
CPK MB: 230 u/ltr [35 - 232]
CK NAK: 160 u/l [till 167]
PROTIDES TTL: 7,5 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]
ALBUMIN: 60 % [51 - 63,3]
ALFA 1: 3 % [2,2 - 4,3]
ALFA 2: 10 % [9,5 - 14]
BETA: 11 % [10-14,5]
GAMMA: 19 % [12 - 20]
A/G RATIO: 1,45 [1,0 - 1,7]

PSA: 0,6 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ ___1,23
PSA FREE: 0,23
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,38 [>0,15]
PAP: 1,3 ng/ml [till 3,5]__________________________________________________ _1,5

IGG: 1455 mg/dl [681 - 1648]
IGA: 309 mg/dl [87 - 474]
IGD: 55 u/ml [till 100]
IGM: 101 mg/dl [48 - 312]
IGE (prist): 39,07 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]

INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,15 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HCV-Ab: 0,12 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HBS-Ag: 0,35 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,07 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
TAS: 111 ui/ml [0 - 166]
VDRL: negative [negative]
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]
ESR: 6 mm/h [till 15]
LYSOZYME: 9 picog/ml [4 - 13]
ACE: 10 mcg/l [6 - 12]

RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 630 mcg/l [300-650]
VITAMIN E: 15,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]
VITAMIN C: 1,1 mg/ml [0,5-1,5]
VITAMIN B12: 697 pg/ml [179 - 1162]
VITAMIN D3: 42 ng/ml [10-45]
VITAMIN H: 85 ng/ml [70-100]
VITAMIN K: 25 mcg/ml [15-30]
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5-0,8]

SODIUM: 143 meq/l [136 - 145]
POTASSIUM: 4,5 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]
CALCIUM: 9,4 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]
MAGNESIUM: 2,1 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]
PHOSPHORUS: 3,8 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]
IRON: 147 mcg/dl [35 - 150]
ZINC: 101 mcg/dl [80 - 125]
CHLORINE: 105 meq/l [98 - 107]
COPPER: 111 ku/l [76 - 153]

HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
INSULIN : 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]________________________________________12,45
FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]________________________________________________3,95
FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________1,62
MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48
FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55
LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15
PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68
SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6
ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150
ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12
IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159
HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]

URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: limpid [limpid]
PH REACTION: 5,7 [5 - 6,5]
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1021 [1015 - 1028]
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0,0 - 10]
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0,0 - 0,2]
KETONE BODIES: none [none]
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0,0 - 0,2]
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]
NITRITE: none [none]

FAECES
SHAPE: homogeneous [homogeneous]
CONSISTENCY: poltacea[/COLOR] [poltacea]
COLOUR: brown [brown]
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]
MUCUS: absent [absent]
BLOOD: absent [absent]
PH REACTION: 7
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]

SPERM
VOLUME: 2,9 ml [>= 2]__________________________________________________ __?
PH: 7,9 [7,2-8]__________________________________________________ ________?
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _____?
VISCOSITY: within limits [within limits]______________________________________?
FLUIDIFICATION 45': physiologic [physiologic]________________________________?
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 90.000.000 /ml [>= 20.000.000]______________?
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.900.000 [>= 40.000.000]______________?
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 59 % [>= 50 %]_______________________________________?
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 36 % [>= 35 %]______________________?
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %______________________________?
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<= 1.000.000]____________________________________?
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]_______________________________________?
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]________________________________________?
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]_______________________________________?
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_____________________________?

BLOOD PRESSURE
__________________________________Day 1__________Day 8__________Day 15__________Day 22__________Day 29__________Day 36__________Day 43
SYS (mmHg)___________________________119____________119____________123____________119_____________128____________131_____________105
DIA (mmHg)____________________________60_____________50_____________52_____________50______________56_____________51______________42
BPM__________________________________68_____________74_____________68_____________64______________67_____________76______________73

[Jumbo18]

Hello Ronnie,

I just want to say you look fantastic man, great physique and i've gone through this whole thread last night to gain more knowledge from you so I thank you very much. I have a few questions though regarding slingshot training and estrogen levels.

I just finished a 10 week cycle of test enanthate 400mg/week today was my last shot. I am on hrt supplementing with hcg to try preserve my fertility. I had great gains but like any other I don't like the fact that I need to take 3 or so months off while losing most of my gains during this cycle then jumping back on. During this sling shot training is there a really big difference in muscle gain compared to your 20 week cycle advice and regular 10 week cycle? I havn't experimented with large doses yet so would a similar slingshot training method I can use is first reload use around 400mg with dbol and next reload use 500mg with another compound like deca ? I suppose it wouldn't be wise to bulk in first reload then cut in second reload??? Also I would follow your advice of doing a 20 week cycle, with 2 reload phases; does that mean once I finish I should take another 20 weeks off cycle for myostatin levels and everything to come back to normal to gain well again next cycles? With your advice if I consider using this method since I just finished this cycle, shall i do the regular time on=time off protocol and wait 3 months to attempt this 20 week singshot training? Regarding being on 20 weeks for your cholesterol health etc, is that a good amount not to be too dangerous on cycle? Will i be able to manage my cholesterol levels that long with regular fish oils and cardio?


Regarding Estrogen levels, you have helped me before in previous past posts. I have yet to experience and increased sex drive from increasing my test dose, because I am always been playing around with my liquidex doses to find what works best for me. Originally tested in the beginning of this cycle on 400mg/test e without any anti-e's my estradiol levels were 222 pmol/L . I originally purchased liquidex because I was experiencing highestrogen sides, lethargy, low sex drive, etc. And I was experimenting with liquidex doses, I tried 0.25mgED, EOD. 0.3mg EOD, ED, 0.5mg EOD, 0.75mg EOD My mood is reasonable at times but at random times I experienced increased general sense of well being, and definitly no noticable high sex drive. While experimenting with my arimidex dosages I was noticing a lot of improved energy at "certain times", and definitly not constant throughout the day, but then I would notice nipple tingleness, and upped it always to where I ended at 0.5mg EOD once. At 0.5mg EOD for 4 days I did not experience the amazing high sex drive or good mood on test cycle. I then used 0.75mgEOD once and I actually felt a surge of energy on the first day, but I already knew then I reduced my e2 levels too much because I hear arimidex doesn't reach full blood levels for a week so i knew that was too much; thought for 2 days after adminstering it I had an AMAZING intense workout which was the first of this cycle which I experienced 9 weeks in, then I started feeling worse, no energy, lazy etc which I could determine my e2 levels were not very low... What is your opinion regarding estradiol levels to experience the benefits of increasing test dosage?

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, hoping you could help - i have trouble putting thickness around the wrists etc. My arms and top of my forearms are bulky but i cant seem to add the thickness and denseness around the bottom of my forearms and wrists. it's your genetics! I do wrist curls and reverse wrist curls faithfully and have the exact same problem as you. Nothing you can do-sorry! my quads are calves are also very thick but then around the ankles i cant add bulk and it can get painful because its difficult for my wrists and ankles to support the mass. dorian yates had low calves due to his genetics not his training routine. Once again, you cannot change this! i think it may be because my weight has fluctuated over the years. I used to weigh around 180 pounds when i was 16-18 i then dropped to about 110 pounds and got very lean but weak i then bulked up to my weight now which is around 250 pounds at 21 years of age but its taken its toll i think as i cant go on the tradmill for over 10 mins without my ankles and shins hurting like hell. Anything you could suggest? lose bodyfat and stop bulking. It's unhealthy and uneccesary!also do you think that training a problem area at the end of the week say friday (if the weekend were off days) would be better as it would allow nutrients to be prioritised for those muscle groups because of the rest days. no! and also for that reason should carbs be kept high? not if you are having problems gaining weight. I think calories/carbs should be leg training day as they are more demanding to train but i think you need to lose weight before you begin having heart trouble! buti usually reduce them on off days but since ive kept them high ive noticed improvement. Thankyou ronnie youre advice is very much appreciated. [b]how many carbs and fats per day are you taking in on training days verses non-training days?[/b]thanks

above

[ricky23]

above

thanks for replying ronnie. yeah my bodyfat percentage is low as ive always been on the lean side. i started cycling in december and ive increased in weight by around 30lbs and since then my joints just seem to ache. i always do cardio on rest days (2 off days) and am fairly lean. up until a month ago my off days included only 200g of carbs and 40g of fats as opposed to the training days when i have 600g carbs and 70g fats - my protein always stays at 400-500g. but recently ive increased my carbs to 400-500g on off days, not sure if this would be beneficial or just a hindrance. my current cycle is 1200mg of tri-test and 450mg of tri-tren (with anti-e's on hand and hcg and clomid for pct).
please let me know what you think.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Well, this is what I have done:
No HCT or PCV check but a cross check between MCV and RDW.
Not enough in your opinion?

The following results after:

38 Days of Testosterone Suspension averaged at 73,94 mg ed.
38 Days of Mesterolone averaged at 88,81 mg ed.
17 Days of Oxandrolone averaged at 68,82 mg ed.

Never used any AI or SERM so far.
?: awaiting results

__________________________________________________ _________________Day 38

BLOOD
ERYTHROCYTES: 5,08 mil/mmc [4 - 5,5]______________________________________4,65
LEUCOCYTES: 7,6 mila/mmc [4 - 9]__________________________________________14,4
- NE: 4,2 / 55,9 % [2 - 6 / 37 - 80]
- LY: 2,5 / 35 % [0,6 - 36 / 10 - 50]
- MO: 0,7 / 8,7 % [0 - 0,9 / 0 - 12]
- EO: 0,3 / 2,5 % [0 - 7 / 0 - 7]
- BA: 0 / 0,6 % [0 - 0,2 / 0 - 2,5]
HEMOGLOBIN: 15,1 gr/dl [14 - 18]___________________________________________13,2
HEMATOCRIT: 44,2 % [42 - 52]_____________________________________________39,8
MCV: 87 femtol [82 - 98]__________________________________________________85,6
MCH: 29,7 picogr. [27 - 31]________________________________________________28,4
MCHC: 34,2 gr/dl [32 - 36]_________________________________________________33,2
RDW: 13,7 % [11,6 - 16]
GRAN-NEUTROPHILS: 65,7 % [37 -80]________________________________________76,4
GRAN-EOSINOPHILS: 2,8 % [0,0 - 7]_________________________________________0,5
GRAN-BASOPHILS: 0,9 % [0,0 - 2,5]_________________________________________0,8
LYMPHOCYTES: 23,4 % [10 - 50]____________________________________________16
MONOCYTES: 7,2 % [0,0 - 12]______________________________________________6,3
PLATELETS: 150000 /mmc [150000 - 400000]_________________________________362000
PCT: 0,13 % [0,1 - 1]
MPV: 7,5 fl [5 - 10]
PDW: 17,5 % [12 - 18]

HEART, KIDNEYS, LIVER, PANCREAS & PROSTATE
GLYCEMIA (basal): 91 mg/dl [70 - 110]

QUICK PROTHROMBIN TIME: 13,7 s
PROTHROMBIN ACTIVITY: 71 % [70-130]
INR: 1,2
APTT: 28 s
FIBRINOGEN: 190 mg/dl [180 - 350]
HOMOCYSTEINE: 11 mcmoli/l [6 - 15]
MYOGLOBIN: 27 ng/ml [10 - 46]

AZOTEMIA: 62 mg/dl [15-40]______________________________________________46
CREATININE: 1,1 mg/dl [0,8 - 1,3]__________________________________________1,2
HYPERURICEMIA: 6 mg/dl [3,5 - 7,2]

CHOLESTEROL TTL: 156 mg/dl [140 - 220]___________________________________142
CHOLESTEROL VLDL: 35 mg/dl [20 - 40]
CHOLESTEROL LDL: 103 mg/dl [< 150]_______________________________________130
CHOLESTEROL HDL: 35 mg/dl [> 40]_________________________________________12
INDEX RISK HDL: 4,5 [till 5]________________________________________________11,8
APO A1: 190 mg/dl [115 - 220]
APO B: 79 mg/dl [55 - 125]
RATIO B/A1 APO: 0,41 [0,35 - 1]
TRIGLYCERIDES: 90 mg/dl [< 150]

GAMMA (YGT): 32 u/ltr [15 - 85]___________________________________________27
ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE: 96 u/ltr [50 - 136]_________________________________57
BILIRUBIN TTL: 1 mg/dl [0,2-1]
BILIRUBIN DIRECT: 0,25 mg/dl [0,05 - 0,3]
BILIRUBIN INDIRECT: 0,67 mg/dl [till 0,7]
TRANSAMINASE GOT/AST: 26 u/ltr [15 - 37]__________________________________63
TRANSAMINASE GPT/ALT: 62 u/ltr [30 - 65]__________________________________104
FERRITIN: 125 ng/ml [24 - 336]

LIPASE: 324 u/ltr [114 - 284]______________________________________________234
AMYLASE: 69 u/ltr [25 - 115]______________________________________________66

LDH: 170 u/ltr [100 - 190]
CPK MB: 230 u/ltr [35 - 232]
CK NAK: 160 u/l [till 167]
PROTIDES TTL: 7,5 gr/dl [6,4 - 8,2]
ALBUMIN: 60 % [51 - 63,3]
ALFA 1: 3 % [2,2 - 4,3]
ALFA 2: 10 % [9,5 - 14]
BETA: 11 % [10-14,5]
GAMMA: 19 % [12 - 20]
A/G RATIO: 1,45 [1,0 - 1,7]

PSA: 0,6 ng/ml [till 4]__________________________________________________ ___1,23
PSA FREE: 0,23
PSA FREE/TTL: 0,38 [>0,15]
PAP: 1,3 ng/ml [till 3,5]__________________________________________________ _1,5

IGG: 1455 mg/dl [681 - 1648]
IGA: 309 mg/dl [87 - 474]
IGD: 55 u/ml [till 100]
IGM: 101 mg/dl [48 - 312]
IGE (prist): 39,07 iu/ml [1,31 - 165,3]

INFECTIVITY & ALLERGOLOGY
HIV-Ab (1+2): 0,15 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HCV-Ab: 0,12 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HBS-Ag: 0,35 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
HAV-Ab (IgT): >85 react miu/ml [<35]
HAV-Ab (IgM): 0,07 non-react u/cutoff [<0,9]
TAS: 111 ui/ml [0 - 166]
VDRL: negative [negative]
CRP: 2 mg/dl [till 5]
REUMA TEST: <20 iu/ml [<20]
ESR: 6 mm/h [till 15]
LYSOZYME: 9 picog/ml [4 - 13]
ACE: 10 mcg/l [6 - 12]

RAST Egg: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yolk: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Crayfish: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Yeast: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Pork: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Fish Mix: 0,1 [<0,3]
RAST Olea Europaea Pollen: 0,1 [<0,3]

VITAMINS & ELECTROLYTES
VITAMIN A: 630 mcg/l [300-650]
VITAMIN E: 15,6 mg/ltr [5 - 20]
VITAMIN C: 1,1 mg/ml [0,5-1,5]
VITAMIN B12: 697 pg/ml [179 - 1162]
VITAMIN D3: 42 ng/ml [10-45]
VITAMIN H: 85 ng/ml [70-100]
VITAMIN K: 25 mcg/ml [15-30]
VITAMIN PP: 0,7 mg/ml [0,5-0,8]

SODIUM: 143 meq/l [136 - 145]
POTASSIUM: 4,5 meq/l [3,5 - 5,1]
CALCIUM: 9,4 mg/dl [8,5 - 10,1]
MAGNESIUM: 2,1 mg/dl [1,8 - 2,4]
PHOSPHORUS: 3,8 mg/dl [2,7 - 4,5]
IRON: 147 mcg/dl [35 - 150]
ZINC: 101 mcg/dl [80 - 125]
CHLORINE: 105 meq/l [98 - 107]
COPPER: 111 ku/l [76 - 153]

HORMONAL
GASTRIN: 32 pg/ml [28-125]
MELATONIN: 55 pg/ml [20 - 85]
C-PEPTIDE: 1,3 ng/ml [0,78 – 1,89]
INSULIN : 3,37 micru/ml [1,9 - 23]
GLUCAGON: 56 pg/ml [40-130]
ACTH: 21 pg/dl [till 50]
CORTISOL: 16,64 mcg/dl [8,7 - 22,4]________________________________________12,45
FT3: 3,47 pg/ml [2,2 - 4,7]________________________________________________3,95
FT4: 1,27 ng/dl [0,8 - 2]__________________________________________________1,62
MSH: 10,5 pmol/l [7,9 - 14,4]
HTG: 9,65 ng/ml [0,0 - 35]
TBG: 21 mcg/ml [15 - 32]
TSH: 4,79 micru/ml [0,34 - 5,6]_____________________________________________2,48
FSH: 4,19 miu/ml [1,27 - 19,26]_____________________________________________0,55
LH: 3,88 miu/ml [1,24 - 8,62]_______________________________________________0,15
PREGNENOLONE: 161 ng/ml [10 - 230]
ANDROSTENEDIONE: 1,89 ng/ml [0,3 - 3,1]
ALDOSTERONE: 155 pg/ml [10 - 160]
DHEA: 7,9 ng/ml [2,5 - 9,5]
DHEAS: 233 mcg/dl [106 - 464]
DHT: 625 pg/ml [250 - 990]________________________________________________1250
TESTOSTERONE TTL: 3,1 ng/ml [1,75 - 7,81]_________________________________44,7
TESTOSTERONE FREE: 15 pg/ml [8 - 47]_____________________________________219,68
SHBG: 37 nmoli/l [13 - 71]_________________________________________________6
ESTRONE: 48 pg/ml [40 - 60]
ESTRADIOL 17-BETA: 34 pg/ml [<20 - 47]____________________________________150
ESTRIOL: 6 pg/ml [4,7 - 7,1]
PROGESTERONE: 0,98 ng/ml [0,14 - 2,06]____________________________________1,41
PRL: 3,4 ng/ml [2,64 - 13,13]______________________________________________15,12
IGF-1: 135 ng/ml [96 - 424]_______________________________________________159
HGH: 0,3 ng/ml [0,0 - 10]

URINE
COLOUR: straw-coloured
APPEARANCE: limpid [limpid]
PH REACTION: 5,7 [5 - 6,5]
SPECIFIC WEIGHT: 1021 [1015 - 1028]
PROTEINS: none mg/dl [0,0 - 10]
HEMOGLOBIN: none [none]
GLUCOSE: none gr/litre [0,0 - 0,2]
KETONE BODIES: none [none]
UROBILINOGEN: none mg/dl [0,0 - 0,2]
BILIARY PIGMENTS: none [none]
NITRITE: none [none]

FAECES
SHAPE: homogeneous [homogeneous]
CONSISTENCY: poltacea[/COLOR] [poltacea]
COLOUR: brown [brown]
ODOUR: sui generis [sui generis]
MUCUS: absent [absent]
BLOOD: absent [absent]
PH REACTION: 7
PARASITOLOGICAL: negative [negative]
SALMONELLA: negative [negative]
HELICOBACTER PYLORI: negative [negative]
GIARDIASIS: negative [negative]

SPERM
VOLUME: 2,9 ml [>= 2]__________________________________________________ __?
PH: 7,9 [7,2-8]__________________________________________________ ________?
APPEARANCE: own__________________________________________________ _____?
VISCOSITY: within limits [within limits]______________________________________?
FLUIDIFICATION 45': physiologic [physiologic]________________________________?
SPERMATOZOON CONCENTRATION: 90.000.000 /ml [>= 20.000.000]______________?
EJACULATE SPERMATOZOON COUNT: 249.900.000 [>= 40.000.000]______________?
2ND HOUR MOTILITY: 59 % [>= 50 %]_______________________________________?
TYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 36 % [>= 35 %]______________________?
ATYPICAL MORPHOLOGIC SPERMATOZOON: 70 %______________________________?
LEUCOCYTE: 300.000 /ml [<= 1.000.000]____________________________________?
ERYTHROCYTE: absent [absent/rare]_______________________________________?
GERMINAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]________________________________________?
EPITHELIAL CELLS: rare [absent/rare]_______________________________________?
SPERMAGGLUTINATION ZONES: rare [absent/rare]_____________________________?

BLOOD PRESSURE
__________________________________Day 1__________Day 8__________Day 15__________Day 22__________Day 29__________Day 36__________Day 43
SYS (mmHg)___________________________119____________119____________123____________119_____________128____________131_____________105
DIA (mmHg)____________________________60_____________50_____________52_____________50______________56_____________51______________42
BPM__________________________________68_____________74_____________68_____________64______________67_____________76______________73

It was late when I looked over this last night and I must have accidently skipped past the hematocit reading. Normal range is 42-52 so you are good. Everything looks good!

[BJJ]

It was late when I looked over this last night and I must have accidently skipped past the hematocit reading. Normal range is 42-52 so you are good. Everything looks good!

[Coca Cola]

Ronnie

You mentioned last time, that Tren E, may have less sides compare to Tren Ace, what do u think is the reason for this?

What is a good weekly dosage for Tren E (effective enough, yet minimal in sides)?

I got really short fuse during my last run with Tren Ace, everybody just pisses me off, without any Tren I'm usually a pretty calm and relax guy, does this mean it will happen again if I use Tren E?

Also I've been reading across the forum, and I found several threads where people mentioned test/19-nor/dht will make an awesome cycle, do you agree with this and why? If this is true, can you give me some good sample cycles for this combination?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Go to post 263 on the last page in this link Are these before and after photos real?? and scroll down for latest pics! I am 5 weeks out from the show. I do not want to peak too early this year like I did last year.

[Archangel.]

above

Having said test/deca for second blast, how would you run them? Would I do the same dosage of test I did my first 20 week blast but just add the deca, something like this?

wk 1-8 test@500mg/deca@400mg
wk 9-10 test @250mg (no deca)
wk 11-18 test@750mg/deca@400-600mg?
wk 19-20 test@250mg (no deca)
wk 21-25 Full PCT

OR increase the test like:

wk 1-8 test@600mg/deca@400mg
wk 9-10 test@300mg (no deca)
wk 11-18 test@1000mg/deca@400-600mg?
wk 19-20 test@300mg (no deca)
wk 21-25 Full PCT

I would appreciate your input, thanks

[Ronnie Rowland]

Two of the most recent pictures taken of my wife five weeks out from the SC. STATE BODYBUILDING SHOW. You can see some more pictures I took of Kathy tonight by clicking on the following link and going to post # 278 and begin scrolling down. Are these before and after photos real??

[VASCULAR VINCE]

Two of the most recent pictures taken of my wife five weeks out from the SC. STATE BODYBUILDING SHOW. You can see some more pictures I took of Kathy tonight by clicking on the following link and going to post # 278 and begin scrolling down. Are these before and after photos real??

Damn..ron..your wife makes most of us look bad...holy shit..what a body!!!Inspirational

[AssyrianKingz]

what form of steroids are used to rip and shred up the body rather than bloat the body? i usually see people who are just puffed up and bloated but then i see others who have perfect muscle symmetry and are cut up.

[Ronnie Rowland]

hello ronnie,

i just want to say you look fantastic man, great physique and i've gone through this whole thread last night to gain more knowledge from you so i thank you very much. I have a few questions though regarding slingshot training and estrogen levels.

I just finished a 10 week cycle of test enanthate 400mg/week today was my last shot. I am on hrt supplementing with hcg to try preserve my fertility. I had great gains but like any other i don't like the fact that i need to take 3 or so months off while losing most of my gains during this cycle then jumping back on. During this sling shot training is there a really big difference in muscle gain compared to your 20 week cycle advice and regular 10 week cycle? absolutely! i havn't experimented with large doses yet so would a similar slingshot training method i can use is first reload use around 400mg with dbol and next reload use 500mg with another compound like deca ? yes but i would do d-bol/test or deca/test during first reload and test/deca/d-bol during second reload i suppose it wouldn't be wise to bulk in first reload then cut in second reload??? No! Just lean bulk all the way through as bulking causes too much fat gain for most! Also i would follow your advice of doing a 20 week cycle, with 2 reload phases; does that mean once i finish i should take another 20 weeks off cycle for myostatin levels and everything to come back to normal to gain well again next cycles? no! with your advice if i consider using this method since i just finished this cycle, shall i do the regular time on=time off protocol and wait 3 months to attempt this 20 week singshot training? no, you will lose most everything if you do and be in a viscious cycle of spinning your wheels. regarding being on 20 weeks for your cholesterol health etc, is that a good amount not to be too dangerous on cycle? no rule applies to everyone as genetics have a lot to do with cholesterol levels. will i be able to manage my cholesterol levels that long with regular fish oils and cardio? if you have pretty good genetics then yes if body fat levels are kept in check. If you are prone to high cholesterol levels they will probably be some what high regardless of what you do (including using steroids!)


regarding estrogen levels, you have helped me before in previous past posts. I have yet to experience and increased sex drive from increasing my test dose, because i am always been playing around with my liquidex doses to find what works best for me. Originally tested in the beginning of this cycle on 400mg/test e without any anti-e's my estradiol levels were 222 pmol/l . I originally purchased liquidex because i was experiencing highestrogen sides, lethargy, low sex drive, etc. And i was experimenting with liquidex doses, i tried 0.25mged, eod. 0.3mg eod, ed, 0.5mg eod, 0.75mg eod my mood is reasonable at times but at random times i experienced increased general sense of well being, and definitly no noticable high sex drive. While experimenting with my arimidex dosages i was noticing a lot of improved energy at "certain times", and definitly not constant throughout the day, but then i would notice nipple tingleness, and upped it always to where i ended at 0.5mg eod once. At 0.5mg eod for 4 days i did not experience the amazing high sex drive or good mood on test cycle. I then used 0.75mgeod once and i actually felt a surge of energy on the first day, but i already knew then i reduced my e2 levels too much because i hear arimidex doesn't reach full blood levels for a week so i knew that was too much; thought for 2 days after adminstering it i had an amazing intense workout which was the first of this cycle which i experienced 9 weeks in, then i started feeling worse, no energy, lazy etc which i could determine my e2 levels were not very low... What is your opinion regarding estradiol levels to experience the benefits of increasing test dosage? if i understand your question, (let me know if it's something different) some will generally have to deal with some sluggishness/sleepiness to achieve a heightened sex drive. increased estrogen levels can increase energy but they can also cause some sluggishness once dosages are increased to a point of greatly improving libido.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

having said test/deca for second blast, how would you run them? Would i do the same dosage of test i did my first 20 week blast but just add the deca, something like this?

Wk 1-8 test@500mg/deca@400mg
wk 9-10 test @250mg (no deca)
wk 11-18 test@750mg/deca@400-600mg? (test 1 gram/deca 400)wk 19-20 test@250mg (no deca)
wk 21-25 full pct

or increase the test like:

Wk 1-8 test@600mg/deca@400mg
wk 9-10 test@300mg (no deca)
wk 11-18 test@1000mg/deca@400-600mg? yes!wk 19-20 test@300mg (no deca)
wk 21-25 full pct

i would appreciate your input, thanks

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[Ronnie Rowland]

what form of steroids are used to rip and shred up the body rather than bloat the body? I usually see people who are just puffed up and bloated but then i see others who have perfect muscle symmetry and are cut up.

test/d-bol/anadrol bloats the body while tren/winnie/masterone increases hardness but when an anti-es is added to testosterone (especially letro) you are basically turning it into a non-aromatizing steroid which will also hardens the body.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Damn..ron..your wife makes most of us look bad...holy shit..what a body!!!Inspirational

MY WIFE EVEN MAKES ME LOOK BAD VINCE....HER LEGS ARE ONE OF A KIND!

[Archangel.]

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OK, well I definitely want to run this for my second blast, but could you please comment on all of this info I've been reading on this forum regarding deca messing up peoples erectile/sex functioning for months and months after ceasing usage? This totally freaks me out. I thought if you ran test with the deca that would counter this issue on cycle, and then a proper full PCT would take care of the rest. Are these people I read about just doing something wrong with their cycles? How long should one expect to have "issues" after stopping a test/deca cycle? I just don't want to permanently F myself.

[Ronnie Rowland]

OK, well I definitely want to run this for my second blast, but could you please comment on all of this info I've been reading on this forum regarding deca messing up peoples erectile/sex functioning for months and months after ceasing usage? The decrease in sex drive from deca usually last 2-4 weeks post cycle but I have seen it last longer. This totally freaks me out. I thought if you ran test with the deca that would counter this issue on cycle, and then a proper full PCT would take care of the rest. The loss in sex drive has to do with increases in prolactin levels and the conversion of progesterone. Throw some anti-es into the mix and serious sexual problems can occur. Are these people I read about just doing something wrong with their cycles? Most neglect to use cabergoline. How long should one expect to have "issues" after stopping a test/deca cycle? around 2-4 weeks on average. I just don't want to permanently F myself. You won't! You always hear that deca shuts one down hard but so does other anabolics. If you are shut down you are shut down. Some people have a great sex drive on deca. I personally would not use deca without taking cabergoline twice a week and to be safe stay at 400 mgs per week max. In addition, some feel the addition of winnie attaches to the progesterone receptor helping block the progestogenic effect of Deca that often leads to low sex drive. I also feel masterone enanthate is a particularly good addition to test/deca as it's androgenicity can help improve libido.

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[Archangel.]

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Thanks Ron! your knowledge is an awesome help. So, what dosage should I run the caber at 2x/wk while on cycle? And do I run it right through PCT as well?
How does the caber counter this problem? The same way you mentioned winny or masterone do?

[Coca Cola]

Big Ron

You might have missed my questions on post 824:

Ronnie

You mentioned last time, that Tren E, may have less sides compare to Tren Ace, what do u think is the reason for this?

What is a good weekly dosage for Tren E (effective enough, yet minimal in sides)?

I got really short fuse during my last run with Tren Ace, everybody just pisses me off, without any Tren I'm usually a pretty calm and relax guy, does this mean it will happen again if I use Tren E?

Also I've been reading across the forum, and I found several threads where people mentioned test/19-nor/dht will make an awesome cycle, do you agree with this and why? If this is true, can you give me some good sample cycles for this combination?

Also referring to your answer to Archangel's question about deca above, does it mean that if not taking cabergoline its also better to avoid Tren as well (since Tren also cause libido problem through the same manner like deca)?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks Ron! your knowledge is an awesome help. So, what dosage should I run the caber at 2x/wk while on cycle? Take .05 mgs per week (at night time) divided up into 2 weekly dosages. 025 twice a week works well. And do I run it right through PCT as well?most definetly
How does the caber counter this problem? The same way you mentioned winny or masterone do? caber lowers prolactin levels only, it does nothing to stop progesterones effect.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

big ron

you might have missed my questions on post 824: yes i did!



also referring to your answer to archangel's question about deca above, does it mean that if not taking cabergoline its also better to avoid tren as well (since tren also cause libido problem through the same manner like deca)not neccesarily as trens strong androgenic properties can help overcome impotence and greatly increase sex drive for some

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coca Cola
Ronnie

You mentioned last time, that Tren E, may have less sides compare to Tren Ace, what do u think is the reason for this?IT'S THE SAME AS TEST E HAVING LESS SIDES AS PROP. IT HITS THE SYSTEM IN A MORE GRADUAL MANNER, NOT ALL AT ONCE!
What is a good weekly dosage for Tren E (effective enough, yet minimal in sides)? 400 MGS PER WEEK IS GOOD DIVIDED INTO TWO WEEKLY INJECTIONS IS GOOD

I got really short fuse during my last run with Tren Ace, everybody just pisses me off, without any Tren I'm usually a pretty calm and relax guy, does this mean it will happen again if I use Tren E? YES, BUT USUALLY AFTER AROUND 2 WEEKS THIS FEELING WILL LESSEN AND CAN EVENTUALLY SUBSIDE ALTOGETHER ONCE YOUR BODY ADAPTS.
Also I've been reading across the forum, and I found several threads where people mentioned test/19-nor/dht will make an awesome cycle, do you agree with this and why? If this is true, can you give me some good sample cycles for this combination?

You should combine test with any 1-4 drugs below.

DHT Based Steroids:

- Masteron
- Winstrol
- Anavar
- Halotestin

Progestin (19-nor) Types Of Anabolic Steroids

- Deca
- Trenbolone
- Anadrol


SAMPLE CYCLE-

TEST/DECA OR TREN/ANADROL OR VAR FOR MASS
TEST/TREN/VAR/WINSTROL AND/OR MASTERON FOR CUTTING (ADD DECA IF YOU HAVE JOINT PROBLEMS)