You'll want to read this!

[xXthehulkXx]

28 yrs
5'4"
217 lbs
9% bf, 9 point pinch test, 3-4 months ago.

12 weeks out from a show and would love your opinion.

Currently on 1000mg test e
1200mg deca
120mg tbol

Starting 10 weeks out I'm switching to

1000mg prop week
700mg tren a week
700mg mast p week
Might add primo at 600mg a week. Not sure yet.

At 8 weeks out I'm adding anavar at 120mg ed.

At 4 weeks out I'm adding winstrol at 50mg eod.

Running t3 at 100mcg and albuterol at 9mg, as an aid. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

Want to stop all injects about 1 week out and keep orals.

Start letro at 2.5mg 2 weeks out.

My training is the slingshot method with this split.

Saturday- chest, tricep, and abs
Sunday- hams, calves, and quads
Monday- cardio
Tuesday- shoulders and traps
Wednesday- back and biceps
Thursday and Friday- cardio

Doing fasted cardio 4-6 times a week as well for 25-45 min. And, 60 min on my regular cardio days.

Diet is
Protein- 410g from chicken, eggs, fish, and protein shakes

Carbs- 370g from oatmeal, brown rice, and sweet potatoes

Fat- 125g from eggs, chicken, fish, and natural peanut butter

Will carb cycle if I stop dropping bf.

Anything you would change? Really appreciate the time you take for us.

[slimshady01]

This...thread...should have...a sub...section for ol' vascular vince...

Lol that's funny

[Ronnie Rowland]

This...thread...should have...a sub...section for ol' vascular vince...LOL..Gonna have to start charging vince...

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[Ronnie Rowland]

hi mr ronnie,

i'm chris from singapore. I'm interested to do steriods , i'm not competing nor looking to get big within a yr but i'm curious to find out what can steroids do in the long run. I looking to gain more size and maintain certain amount of leanness, i'm more looking it as a long term commitment rather than a short term and a quick fix..... But i need some guidelines if u would be able share with me.

My questions are, what is the basic guidelines do i have to do or follow when i'm on steroids? i would use 500 mgs of test-e or test-c weekly and 50 mgs of proviron daily to control estrogen.
"how often do i hv to do a blood work test, every 3 mths or 6 mths?" 6 months is good once a baseline is established
"what do i need to look at when i have a blood work result?" 1) full liver panel -weight training primarily causes ast elevation, but also raises alt so don't panic if it comes back high. If ast is normal and alt is elevated, it can be liver cell destruction instead of muscle destruction which is reason for concern.. The key to liver health is to avoid stressing it with orals for lengthy periods of time. Test is user friendly on the liver! Take 3-5 days from training to ensure it's not from weight training before giving blood. 2) lipid levels - take fish oils, b3 and d3 to help keep lipids in check. 3) blood-hematocrit levels, etc- give blood every 3 months to lower red blood cell count and a baby aspirin can be used to thin out blood but there are risk taking aspirin such as bleeding ulcers and hem rods. 4) kidney. - cialis at 5 to 10 mgs 5) along with aspirin helps keep blood presure in check. Stay lean, reduce salt, increase fluids, keep carb intake moderate,, and watch estrogen levels.prostate-psa. 6) hormone levels -test and estrogen. Get a baseline pre-cycle to compare with post cycle. It's good practice to have blood work done while on cycle to see what's really going on. Here's a link to a website showing normal ranges on standard blood test-
http://www.bloodbook.com/ranges.html

"how long should i rest for every cycle i do?"do you want kids and do you want to go on trt the rest of your life?
"do i still need to use supplements while i'm still on it"? i would
"what pharmaceutical company is recommended?" na"in terms of efficient, is oral better or injection better?"

here's wat i have been doing now.

I'm a asian, 32 yrs old a personal trainer for 8 yrs, ectomorph.. I started training when i was 25 yrs weighing 58kg, currently i'm weight 72kg with a bf of 12%.

My meals usually i start with high fat and protein (red meat) in e earlier part of the day and will adjust lower fat and protein (white meat) and with more unrefined carbs (white rice, sweet or potato) towards the evening and my last meals. I do design my program and periodize them every 5 & 6 weeks and use slow or fast tempo depending on the selection of e exercises and the program. you should start your day with carbs and protein and end them with protein and fats. Change exercises and volume for 2 weeks (called deload) after every 8 weeks (called reload))
hope u will be able to help me with the basic guidelines or fundamentals. Thank you for your time reading this.

Regards,
chris

BLOOD TEST REFERENCE RANGE CHART
Test
Reference Range (conventional units*)

17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Men) 0.06-3.0 mg/L
17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Women) Follicular phase 0.2-1.0 mg/L
25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) 8-80 ng/mL
Acetoacetate <3 mg/dL
Acidity (pH) 7.35 - 7.45
Alcohol 0 mg/dL (more than 0.1 mg/dL normally indicates intoxication) (ethanol)
Ammonia 15 - 50 µg of nitrogen/dL
Amylase 53 - 123 units/L
Ascorbic Acid 0.4 - 1.5 mg/dL
Bicarbonate 18 - 23 mEq/L (carbon dioxide content)
Bilirubin Direct: up to 0.4 mg/dL
Total: up to 1.0 mg/dL
Blood Volume 8.5 - 9.1% of total body weight
Calcium 8.2 - 10.6 mg/dL (normally slightly higher in children)
Carbon Dioxide Pressure 35 - 45 mm Hg
Carbon Monoxide Less than 5% of total hemoglobin
CD4 Cell Count 500 - 1500 cells/µL
Ceruloplasmin 15 - 60 mg/dL
Chloride 98 - 106 mEq/L
Complete Blood Cell Count (CBC) Tests include: hemoglobin, hematocrit, mean corpuscular hemoglobin, mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration, mean corpuscular volume, platelet count, white Blood cell count
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Copper Total: 70 - 150 µg/dL
Creatine Kinase (CK or CPK) Male: 38 - 174 units/L
Female: 96 - 140 units/L
Creatine Kinase Isoenzymes 5% MB or less
Creatinine 0.6 - 1.2 mg/dL
Electrolytes Test includes: calcium, chloride, magnesium, potassium, sodium
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate (ESR or Sed-Rate) Male: 1 - 13 mm/hr
Female: 1 - 20 mm/hr
Glucose Tested after fasting: 70 - 110 mg/dL
Hematocrit Male: 45 - 62%
Female: 37 - 48%
Hemoglobin Male: 13 - 18 gm/dL
Female: 12 - 16 gm/dL
Iron 60 - 160 µg/dL (normally higher in males)
Iron-binding Capacity 250 - 460 µg/dL
Lactate (lactic acid) Venous: 4.5 - 19.8 mg/dL
Arterial: 4.5 - 14.4 mg/dL
Lactic Dehydrogenase 50 - 150 units/L
Lead 40 µg/dL or less (normally much lower in children)
Lipase 10 - 150 units/L
Zinc B-Zn 70 - 102 µmol/L
Lipids:
Cholesterol Less than 225 mg/dL (for age 40-49 yr; increases with age)
Triglycerides 10 - 29 years 53 - 104 mg/dL
30 - 39 years 55 - 115 mg/dL
40 - 49 years 66 - 139 mg/dL
50 - 59 years 75 - 163 mg/dL
60 - 69 years 78 - 158 mg/dL
> 70 years 83 - 141 mg/dL
Liver Function Tests Tests include bilirubin (total), phosphatase (alkaline), protein (total and albumin), transaminases (alanine and aspartate), prothrombin (PTT)
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Magnesium 1.9 - 2.7 mEq/L
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH) 27 - 32 pg/cell
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC) 32 - 36% hemoglobin/cell
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV) 76 - 100 cu µm
Osmolality 280 - 296 mOsm/kg water
Oxygen Pressure 83 - 100 mm Hg
Oxygen Saturation (arterial) 96 - 100%
Phosphatase, Prostatic 0 - 3 units/dL (Bodansky units) (acid)
Phosphatase 50 - 160 units/L (normally higher in infants and adolescents) (alkaline)
Phosphorus 3.0 - 4.5 mg/dL (inorganic)
Platelet Count 150,000 - 350,000/mL
Potassium 3.5 - 5.4 mEq/L
Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA) 0 - 4 ng/mL (likely higher with age)
Proteins:
Total 6.0 - 8.4 gm/dL
Albumin 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL
Globulin 2.3 - 3.5 gm/dL

Prothrombin (PTT) 25 - 41 sec
Pyruvic Acid 0.3 - 0.9 mg/dL
Red Blood Cell Count (RBC) 4.2 - 6.9 million/µL/cu mm

Sodium 133 - 146 mEq/L
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) 0.5 - 6.0 µ units/mL
Transaminase:
Alanine (ALT) 1 - 21 units/L
Aspartate (AST) 7 - 27 units/L

Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 7 - 18 mg/dL
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 5 - 35
Uric Acid Male 2.1 to 8.5 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Female 2.0 to 7.0 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Vitamin A 30 - 65 µg/dL
WBC (leukocyte count and white Blood cell count) 4.3-10.8 × 103/mm3
White Blood Cell Count (WBC) 4,300 - 10,800 cells/µL/cu mm
*Please visit our measurement and abbreviation pages.

[Ronnie Rowland]

So how about 5/5/5 sets of Smith machine squats, giant split squats, hack squats, then 6 sets of calve raises for a total of 21 sets? I like doing leg presses but the machine at my gym is one of those that angle up and with any kind of decent weight on it I hurt my lower back. I would do 4/4/4

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[slimshady01]

Ron,


Taking 3iu daily of hgh...

When is the best time to take? Morning upon waking or before bed?

I may go to 4iu down the Road as well.

Also taking peps cjc1295 no dac and ghrp6 for stronger natural pulses.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ron,


Taking 3iu daily of hgh...

When is the best time to take? Morning upon waking or before bed?

I may go to 4iu down the Road as well.

Also taking peps cjc1295 no dac and ghrp6 for stronger natural pulses.

Take before going to bed and avoid taking in any appreciable amounts of carbs 3 hours prior to injection to obtain maximum results.

[Dadstrength]

I'm starting to get that dull pain in my testicles. I have a buddy who says HCG will help it. I asked how and he shrugged his shoulders 'I dunno' lol. Can you please tell me if he's right first of all, and if it does, can you elaborate on how it helps and what it'll do? Or any advice on what I can do for it. Thanks Ronnie

[OnTheSauce]

Just means you are shutting down. Its normal

[Dadstrength]

Yea I researched the forum and that's the majority response. They are shutting down. I'm just curious how the HCG would help. Ronnie answers are always on point. And since I'm currently using his sts (beginning week 3 today) I thought this would be the right place for the question.

[lla23]

Hi Ronnie, Thanks for the Comprehensive Reply.. I appreciate it..

how many weeks do u suggest i should be on? 8 or 12 weeks? Test-E or Test-C weekly and 50 mgs of Proviron daily What supplementation do u suggest while i'm on cycle? (Digestive enzyme,Probotics, Fish Oil, Vitamin B3 & Vitamin D) ?? When on cycle, does AAS affects the "GUT HEALTH" functionality?

[The Titan99]

Take before going to bed and avoid taking in any appreciable amounts of carbs 3 hours prior to injection to obtain maximum results.

I was wondering about this too. I was going to do 4 i.u.'s on deload and 6-7 i.u.'s on reload. I train at 7:00 pm till 8:30/9:00. I'm usually in bed by 10:30. Should I drop carbs (1/2 cup cooked oat meal - 1/2 cup skim milk) out of my PW protein shake?

Also, how would that effect carb cycling or re carb days?

Also, I've heard you should be taking T4 with HGH or your wasting the HGH. What do you think about that? I'm taking T3 75 mcg before bed now.

Also, with the relative low cost of insulin and IGF compared to the HGH, it's VERY tempting to me to give the other 2 a try along with it.

It also occurred to me that with the strict diet restrictions with the implementation of all three, (no fats after the insulin twice a day, no carbs 3 hours prior or after the HGH etc.) it's no wonder people get good results. Getting bigger with the mass consumption of carbs and protein post insulin, extreme fat loss from dropping carbs at night. Sounds like good nutrient partitioning...

[The Titan99]

I found this article written back in 2003 about HGH IGF and insulin use. It talks about a negative feedback loop coming 4 hours after HGH injections. And what's the deal with spot injections for localized fat reduction?

HGH
HGH should ideally be used for 20-30 week cycles (or longer). The dosage should be between 2-3IU per day if you are using GH primarily for fat loss, 4-5 IU’s a day for both fat loss and muscle growth, and approximately 1.0 – 2.0 IU’s a day for females. It is best to split your injections 1/2 first thing in the morning, 1/2 early afternoon if your dose is above 3.0 IU’s per day. Your pituitary will naturally produce about 6-9 pulses of GH per day. Each injection you take will create a negative feedback loop that will suppress these pulses for about 4 hours. By taking your injections first thing in the morning and early afternoon you will still allow your body to release its biggest pulse, which normally occurs shortly after going to sleep at night.

When starting out with your HGH cycle, for most people it is wise to begin you dose at 1.5 – 2.0IU per day for the first couple of weeks, and then begin increasing your dose by 0.5 unit every week or two until you reach your desired level. While it isn't an absolute neccessity to do this, if you are sensitive to the type of sides HGH present you will often times avoid these sides of joint pain/swelling, and bloating/water retention by slowly acclaimating to your ultimate 4-5 IU/day goal.

You should use an U100 insulin syringe for injecting HGH, and inject it subQ into your a**omen, obliques, top of thighs, triceps. Rotate injection sites. HGH can have a small localized fat loss benefit, so keep this in mind when choosing your injection sites.

[Ronnie Rowland]

28 yrs
5'4"
217 lbs
9% bf, 9 point pinch test, 3-4 months ago.

12 weeks out from a show and would love your opinion.

Currently on 1000mg test e
1200mg deca
120mg tbol

Starting 10 weeks out I'm switching to

1000mg prop week
700mg tren a week
700mg mast p week
Might add primo at 600mg a week. Not sure yet.

At 8 weeks out I'm adding anavar at 120mg ed.

At 4 weeks out I'm adding winstrol at 50mg eod.

Running t3 at 100mcg and albuterol at 9mg, as an aid. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.

Want to stop all injects about 1 week out and keep orals.

Start letro at 2.5mg 2 weeks out.

My training is the slingshot method with this split.

Saturday- chest, tricep, and abs
Sunday- hams, calves, and quads
Monday- cardio
Tuesday- shoulders and traps
Wednesday- back and biceps
Thursday and Friday- cardio

Doing fasted cardio 4-6 times a week as well for 25-45 min. And, 60 min on my regular cardio days.

Diet is
Protein- 410g from chicken, eggs, fish, and protein shakes

Carbs- 370g from oatmeal, brown rice, and sweet potatoes

Fat- 125g from eggs, chicken, fish, and natural peanut butter

Will carb cycle if I stop dropping bf.

Anything you would change? Really appreciate the time you take for us.

You are holding a ton of lean mass for 5'4!I am on my IPad so I will answer everything here. 1) don't add primobolan . It's a waste of money when using tren. Instead run 50 mgs of oral winstrol per day beginning 6 weeks out. Keep deca at 200 mgs weekly in until 4 weeks out to reduce wear and tear on joints. Test, tren, deca, mast, anavar, and winstrol. Use anavar at 100 day starting 10 weeks out in place of primo to maintain strength. When winstrol is added at 6 weeks out take only 50 of anavar in the morning and take 50 winstrol at night .

2) 8 weeks out run 35 to 50 mgs of t3. You will lose muscle if you go beyond that, especially without GH! Stat clen 8 weeks out at 40 day and increase by 20 every 2 weeks. Don't stop taking it because receptors won't shut down. Albuterol is a waste- not an effective fat burner!

3) train biceps after chest and triceps after shoulders.

4) do no more than 30 minutes of cardio around 145 heart rate 6 times a week and never on leg day. Reduce carbs and fats. Not a fan of cardio on empty stomach unless it's on a day you don't train with weights. Best to do cardio after weights.

5) for optimum results you should be cycling carbs year round, especially when dieting down!

[xXthehulkXx]

You are holding a ton of lean mass for 5'4!I am on my IPad so I will answer everything here. 1) don't add primobolan . It's a waste of money when using tren . Instead run 50 mgs of oral winstrol per day beginning 6 weeks out. Keep deca at 200 mgs weekly in until 4 weeks out to reduce wear and tear on joints. Test, tren, deca, mast, anavar , and winstrol. Use anavar at 100 day starting 10 weeks out in place of primo to maintain strength. When winstrol is added at 6 weeks out take only 50 of anavar in the morning and take 50 winstrol at night .

2) 8 weeks out run 35 to 50 mgs of t3. You will lose muscle if you go beyond that, especially without GH! Stat clen 8 weeks out at 40 day and increase by 20 every 2 weeks. Don't stop taking it because receptors won't shut down. Albuterol is a waste- not an effective fat burner!

3) train biceps after chest and triceps after shoulders.

4) do no more than 30 minutes of cardio around 145 heart rate 6 times a week and never on leg day. Reduce carbs and fats. Not a fan of cardio on empty stomach unless it's on a day you don't train with weights. Best to do cardio after weights.

5) for optimum results you should be cycling carbs year round, especially when dieting down!

Thanks for the reply. I will implement this ASAP. You're an awesome person to take the time to help out here.

[OnTheSauce]

Ronnie I shot you a pm. I powerlift, not bodybuilding. So my training is a little different but as far as the stack and slingshot, I would love some input

[Dadstrength]

Hey Ronnie, I have one more question. I'm reading through these posts so I don't have to ask repeat questions. Maybe I missed this one but I see you recommend a light day and heavy day when training a body part twice a week. I'm assuming you mean light ( low volume - high reps) and heavy ( high volume low reps i.e. 8-10). My question is do you recommend this for your 8 week beginner routine as well? So I would do workout 1 on Monday and friday, for instance, with one light day then heavy the next? And do the same for workout 2?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Yea I researched the forum and that's the majority response. They are shutting down. I'm just curious how the HCG would help. Ronnie answers are always on point. And since I'm currently using his sts (beginning week 3 today) I thought this would be the right place for the question.

HCG will help reduce the pain. Keep in mind since you are experiencing some pain while shutting down you may also have a similar pain during PCT. A good option is to take 2 ibuprofen twice a day until the pain stops and save HCG for PCT.

[RaW InStiNcTz]

Very good post Ronnie really shed light on common issues that occur when one thinks that constant change in routine is a good thing but then wonder why gains are slow, Thank you

[lla23]

Hi Ronnie, Thanks for the Comprehensive Reply.. I appreciate it..


how many weeks do u suggest i should be on? 8 or 12 weeks? Test-E or Test-C weekly and 50 mgs of Proviron daily What supplementation do u suggest while i'm on cycle? (Digestive enzyme,Probotics, Fish Oil, Vitamin B3 & Vitamin D) ?? When on cycle, does AAS affects the "GUT HEALTH" functionality?

BLOOD TEST REFERENCE RANGE CHART
Test
Reference Range (conventional units*)

17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Men) 0.06-3.0 mg/L
17 Hydroxyprogesterone (Women) Follicular phase 0.2-1.0 mg/L
25-hydroxyvitamin D (25(OH)D) 8-80 ng/mL
Acetoacetate <3 mg/dL
Acidity (pH) 7.35 - 7.45
Alcohol 0 mg/dL (more than 0.1 mg/dL normally indicates intoxication) (ethanol)
Ammonia 15 - 50 µg of nitrogen/dL
Amylase 53 - 123 units/L
Ascorbic Acid 0.4 - 1.5 mg/dL
Bicarbonate 18 - 23 mEq/L (carbon dioxide content)
Bilirubin Direct: up to 0.4 mg/dL
Total: up to 1.0 mg/dL
Blood Volume 8.5 - 9.1% of total body weight
Calcium 8.2 - 10.6 mg/dL (normally slightly higher in children)
Carbon Dioxide Pressure 35 - 45 mm Hg
Carbon Monoxide Less than 5% of total hemoglobin
CD4 Cell Count 500 - 1500 cells/µL
Ceruloplasmin 15 - 60 mg/dL
Chloride 98 - 106 mEq/L
Complete Blood Cell Count (CBC) Tests include: hemoglobin, hematocrit, mean corpuscular hemoglobin, mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration, mean corpuscular volume, platelet count, white Blood cell count
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Copper Total: 70 - 150 µg/dL
Creatine Kinase (CK or CPK) Male: 38 - 174 units/L
Female: 96 - 140 units/L
Creatine Kinase Isoenzymes 5% MB or less
Creatinine 0.6 - 1.2 mg/dL
Electrolytes Test includes: calcium, chloride, magnesium, potassium, sodium
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Erythrocyte Sedimentation Rate (ESR or Sed-Rate) Male: 1 - 13 mm/hr
Female: 1 - 20 mm/hr
Glucose Tested after fasting: 70 - 110 mg/dL
Hematocrit Male: 45 - 62%
Female: 37 - 48%
Hemoglobin Male: 13 - 18 gm/dL
Female: 12 - 16 gm/dL
Iron 60 - 160 µg/dL (normally higher in males)
Iron-binding Capacity 250 - 460 µg/dL
Lactate (lactic acid) Venous: 4.5 - 19.8 mg/dL
Arterial: 4.5 - 14.4 mg/dL
Lactic Dehydrogenase 50 - 150 units/L
Lead 40 µg/dL or less (normally much lower in children)
Lipase 10 - 150 units/L
Zinc B-Zn 70 - 102 µmol/L
Lipids:
Cholesterol Less than 225 mg/dL (for age 40-49 yr; increases with age)
Triglycerides 10 - 29 years 53 - 104 mg/dL
30 - 39 years 55 - 115 mg/dL
40 - 49 years 66 - 139 mg/dL
50 - 59 years 75 - 163 mg/dL
60 - 69 years 78 - 158 mg/dL
> 70 years 83 - 141 mg/dL
Liver Function Tests Tests include bilirubin (total), phosphatase (alkaline), protein (total and albumin), transaminases (alanine and aspartate), prothrombin (PTT)
Please click each to view an individual test value.
Magnesium 1.9 - 2.7 mEq/L
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin (MCH) 27 - 32 pg/cell
Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC) 32 - 36% hemoglobin/cell
Mean Corpuscular Volume (MCV) 76 - 100 cu µm
Osmolality 280 - 296 mOsm/kg water
Oxygen Pressure 83 - 100 mm Hg
Oxygen Saturation (arterial) 96 - 100%
Phosphatase, Prostatic 0 - 3 units/dL (Bodansky units) (acid)
Phosphatase 50 - 160 units/L (normally higher in infants and adolescents) (alkaline)
Phosphorus 3.0 - 4.5 mg/dL (inorganic)
Platelet Count 150,000 - 350,000/mL
Potassium 3.5 - 5.4 mEq/L
Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA) 0 - 4 ng/mL (likely higher with age)
Proteins:
Total 6.0 - 8.4 gm/dL
Albumin 3.5 - 5.0 gm/dL
Globulin 2.3 - 3.5 gm/dL

Prothrombin (PTT) 25 - 41 sec
Pyruvic Acid 0.3 - 0.9 mg/dL
Red Blood Cell Count (RBC) 4.2 - 6.9 million/µL/cu mm

Sodium 133 - 146 mEq/L
Thyroid-Stimulating Hormone (TSH) 0.5 - 6.0 µ units/mL
Transaminase:
Alanine (ALT) 1 - 21 units/L
Aspartate (AST) 7 - 27 units/L

Urea Nitrogen (BUN) 7 - 18 mg/dL
BUN/Creatinine Ratio 5 - 35
Uric Acid Male 2.1 to 8.5 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Female 2.0 to 7.0 mg/dL (likely higher with age)
Vitamin A 30 - 65 µg/dL
WBC (leukocyte count and white Blood cell count) 4.3-10.8 × 103/mm3
White Blood Cell Count (WBC) 4,300 - 10,800 cells/µL/cu mm
*Please visit our measurement and abbreviation pages.

[daniel20]

Ronnie.. Casein/healthy fats vs Whey/healthy fats before bed?..

[Dadstrength]

Thanks for the HCG / Ibuprofen advice Ronnie. In the middle of wk 3. I'll post some before / after pics when finished with my 20 week blast.

[OnTheSauce]

No need for testicle pics bro. Ha

[Dadstrength]

Lol Patrick. Not what I meant... Funny tho.

[OnTheSauce]

Yeah I know. Sarcasm!

[genoo]

????

[genoo]

I am a new user I am 20 years old and I am about to start a cycle of test 350 and tren . I did a cycle or tren this time last year but did not take it seriously. I was wondering how much of each I should do and how often?

[Back In Black]

I am a new user I am 20 years old and I am about to start a cycle of test 350 and tren. I did a cycle or tren this time last year but did not take it seriously. I was wondering how much of each I should do and how often?

Start your own thread please, you'll get many more responses, thank you.

[VASCULAR VINCE]

big ron...true or false.....................low test..n..high tren cycles has fewer sides effects... because less estrogen????

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie.. Casein/healthy fats vs Whey/healthy fats before bed?..

Casein is best. A few people have issues digesting casein before going to bed-hence they get heartburn/acid reflux. Casein is more expensive but more anti-catabolic due to it's delayed time release. Whey will still work pretty well when comingled with fats.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I am a new user I am 20 years old and I am about to start a cycle of test 350 and tren. I did a cycle or tren this time last year but did not take it seriously. I was wondering how much of each I should do and how often?

This is a very vague question but my suggestion is to run test only at 500 mgs for 8-12 weeks if you are looking to cut then PCT. Tren is a very advanced drug with harsh side effects and it's harder to recover from during PCT at such a young age. If you do decide to use tren 100 mgs weekly along with the test would be plenty. You are very young so please think things through before you start taking steroids . At age 20 you should not need them unless you are competing!

[OnTheSauce]

***Powerlifter with questions***


I have nationals in june, starting my blast Saturday.
700mg Tren a
600mast p
210 test e

Run this for exactly 8 weeks then drop all but the test for 2 weeks. Higher reps and Lower volume lifting during the 2 weeks, then:

then run this for 8 weeks
1000mg test ace
100mg dbol /day last 4 weeks

cruise on 200mg test for 2 weeks and do my prime diet with higher reps and light volume. then run the same Tren/mast/test stack for 8 weeks. Finish up with last day of blast being last meet of the year. Then cruise for a while on 200mg to let my body rest some.

Am I way off base on this? I have been doing a 8 week blasts then cruise for 4-8 weeks and blast again. But training always stays heavy and high volume. Stay in 3-5 rep range. So this will be a drastic change from what I've been doing

[Ronnie Rowland]

***Powerlifter with questions***


I have nationals in june, starting my blast Saturday.
700mg Tren a
600mast p
210 test e

Run this for exactly 8 weeks then drop all but the test for 2 weeks. Higher reps and Lower volume lifting during the 2 weeks, then:

then run this for 8 weeks
1000mg test ace
100mg dbol /day last 4 weeks

cruise on 200mg test for 2 weeks and do my prime diet with higher reps and light volume. then run the same Tren/mast/test stack for 8 weeks. Finish up with last day of blast being last meet of the year. Then cruise for a while on 200mg to let my body rest some.

Am I way off base on this? I have been doing a 8 week blasts then cruise for 4-8 weeks and blast again. But training always stays heavy and high volume. Stay in 3-5 rep range. So this will be a drastic change from what I've been doing

Looks okay but I would reduce tren to 300 weekly and use 1 gram of test. You need to time your competition so that it falls at week 8 during reload. Test/dbol is a good cycle to utilize during your meet. In addition, you will make more strength gains doing no more than lets say 6 work sets per week for body parts like the chest during reloads. High volume is best for bodybuilding not powerlifting!

[Ronnie Rowland]

big ron...true or false.....................low test..n..high tren cycles has fewer sides effects... because less estrogen????

The answer would be false. Whoever started this myth forgot to take into consideration that a lot of people taking high doses of test while using tren experience side effects while using aromasin or arimidex which kills estrogen at the receptor. The estrogen conversion from test is not magnifying the side effects of tren under these circumstances. More drugs equals more side effects. Plain and simple.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie, Thanks for the Comprehensive Reply.. I appreciate it..

how many weeks do u suggest i should be on? 8 or 12 weeks? Test-E or Test-C weekly and 50 mgs of Proviron daily What supplementation do u suggest while i'm on cycle? (Digestive enzyme,Probotics, Fish Oil, Vitamin B3 & Vitamin D) ?? When on cycle, does AAS affects the "GUT HEALTH" functionality?

Do a 20 week cycle. 8 weeks reload/2 weeks deload. Then 8 weeks reload/ 2 weeks deload then pct. Stay on proviron for the entire 20 weeks. I would use nolvadex during pct for 4 weeks in this particular scenario.

Yes, oral steroids and tren affect gut health. I have seen tren not only cause heartburn/acid reflux like oral steroids , but geographic tounge and mouth sores.Another thing that wreaks havoc on the gut is drugs like aspirin, antibiotics,aromasin ,and arimidex !

I would suggest using a powerful probiotic in addition to some L-Glutamine to aid in gut health. Zinc is another supplement that will help. Some will still have to use anti acids when using Orals or tren regardless.

[OnTheSauce]

Looks okay but I would reduce tren to 300 weekly and use 1 gram of test. You need to time your competition so that it falls at week 8 during reload. Test/dbol is a good cycle to utilize during your meet. In addition, you will make more strength gains doing no more than lets say 6 work sets per week for body parts like the chest during reloads. High volume is best for bodybuilding not powerlifting!

Comps will fall on week 8. I've already got everything for the high Tren first go around. Ill swap last one to high test. I have a lot of dbol and experience zero sides from it. I can run high doses no problems. If I did it for the 4 weeks to end the reload, what dose would u recommend. I've used it at 50 and 100mg a day

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ron...any supps...fight prostate cancer???????

[Ronnie Rowland]

Is NPP too short an ester to use twice a week (for joint support) or does it need to be more frequent?

Twice a week is fine because the active life is around 1 week.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Mast should be higher than 350

200 mgs weekly still works.

[Ronnie Rowland]

You're good with 2x a week. 7 day half life I believe. 3x a week probably be better, but 2 will work

Actually the half life is 3-4 days and the full active life is around 7 days.