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05-09-2006, 02:17 PM #121Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
yeh but this guy is short like my bro so really how much can i tell him bout stride length? i know praisi speed teach there combine guys to hit 10 in 6 or less strides thats not good bc everyone stride length is diff u know?
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05-09-2006, 02:26 PM #123Member
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05-09-2006, 02:28 PM #124Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
I would not unload speed in week 8. Certainly keep the intensity. You may drop the volume _slightly_.
For week 9, Monday will be your last full speed day. Make it very high quality, lots of rest between runs and do about 75% volume compared to your normal workout.
Assuming the combine is on Saturday, I would try to get in a heavy bench workout on wednesday. Go up to 95% of your max, but only 2 or 3 sets of 2 reps. This will help keep your nervous system fired up.
Thursday, warm up and cool down if you have a chance. Get a good night sleep. Friday try to relax. Saturday perform!Last edited by buckeyefootball4; 05-09-2006 at 02:33 PM.
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05-09-2006, 02:33 PM #125Member
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yea i hear ya. how tall is this dude
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05-09-2006, 02:34 PM #126Senior Member
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05-09-2006, 02:36 PM #127Member
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
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05-09-2006, 02:43 PM #128Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
another tip from my friend he just sent to me bout peaking them:
I would not unload speed in week 8. Certainly keep the intensity. You may drop the volume _slightly_.
For week 9, Monday will be your last full speed day. Make it very high quality, lots of rest between runs and do about 75% volume compared to your normal workout.
Assuming the combine is on Saturday, I would try to get in a heavy bench workout on wednesday. Go up to 95% of your max, but only 2 or 3 sets of 2 reps. This will help keep your nervous system fired up.
Thursday, warm up and cool down if you have a chance. Get a good night sleep. Friday try to relax. Saturday perform!
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
bro trust me you wouldnt be sore its only 2x2x90-95% with 5min rest btw sets.
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05-09-2006, 02:53 PM #131Member
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05-09-2006, 02:58 PM #132Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
yep no aux, u r just trying to keep system sharp and ready to explode
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05-09-2006, 03:01 PM #133Member
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true. that will be thurs then for me
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05-10-2006, 11:54 AM #134Senior Member
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was today a speed day
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05-10-2006, 03:39 PM #135Member
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
tommorow i am gonna do my SS with upper body reps.
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05-10-2006, 07:52 PM #136Senior Member
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i talk to usc strength coach today and he said he teach his guys to be upright at about 12-15yds what u think about that.
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05-10-2006, 07:56 PM #137Member
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
it does give ya time to lean forward and stay low long. then you explode the head up and begin to straighten.
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
myself whenever i run my 40 i drive out to about 30-35yd, maybe bc i am also a track guy and most of the track guys at the combine did it the same, he also said bush could have ran faster if he didnt drive out that long. so in saying that i teach most of my guys to drive out as long as possible the stronger you are the easiest it is.
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yea i just think its my lack of training the way you do. so i should try to stay low longer and keep the lean forward longer? do you think this will have a negative effect on me bc of my running style as i posted above.
i am a straight up and down runner with my knees high. almost similar to huff.
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05-10-2006, 08:18 PM #140Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
no not at all, i think you will be ok. i was always taught in track to drive out long you see those world class guys driving out long.
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
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05-11-2006, 12:55 PM #142Senior Member
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hey jjeb all times posted were done in nike frees;
10x10 3xlying/3xfall/4x3point (1.62/1.53/1.34/1.53)
4x20(2.72/2.75/2.50/2.50)
5x30(3.72/3.72/3.72/3.69/3.79-stumble)
we had him practice diff stances to see which one work close stance and far stance.Last edited by buckeyefootball4; 05-11-2006 at 01:02 PM.
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05-11-2006, 01:03 PM #143Member
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
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05-11-2006, 01:05 PM #144Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
to be real with you i really dont know what a good 30 is?? also remember he tested speed on mon and also did the below power program: IM NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR HIM BY NO MEANS!!
pogo jumps 2x20/30
vertical jumps 90sec 5x7
depth jumps 90sec 5x8
rhy jump squats 120sec 5x7x17
power snatch 150sec 5x4x82-92
full back squat/broad jump x2 210sec 5x4x82-92
rdl 3x3
quasi iso lunge 2x20x30
core see sheet
WED: SS 20MIN
Tue:
bp 3x4
lockouts 3x5x105
weight dips 3x5
rev rows 3x5
face pulls 15 12 10
curls 8 6 5
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05-11-2006, 01:10 PM #145Senior Member
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also remember when u r tired the first thing to go is top speed ability>
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05-11-2006, 01:11 PM #146Member
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well i was saying in terms of taking his fastest 20 yard sprint usually u want to hit a 1.8 or 1.9 on the last 20-40. in his case it was a 1.94 if i recall correctly. with that being said he should be in the 3.5 range considring the last 10 would be his fastest.
oh no excuses needed i am positive it has to do with the fact he had the frees on which are still light, the testing and the workouts.
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05-11-2006, 01:16 PM #147Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
got it.. also after thinking all night/morning i have decided to keep the old plan with the 10-20-40 on wed and 10's and flying 20-30acc zone on mon. dont ask me why just a gut feeling, hope i am doing the right thing bc i like to see all the people i help succeed.??
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05-11-2006, 01:18 PM #148Member
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yea well go with it then. always go with the instincts on it
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05-11-2006, 01:23 PM #149Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
LOL, what u think?
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05-11-2006, 01:29 PM #150Member
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i think u cant lose either way bc both are well thought out plans of attack and either can work just as well as the other. both have the same volume and the only difference is the excercises done. honestly either way it should work.
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
have you ever seen anyone like this guy before with all the diff speed in diff areas, fast 10 slow 30 etc
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
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05-11-2006, 01:47 PM #153Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
ture.. u should post ur 10-20-40 times.
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05-11-2006, 01:49 PM #154Member
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Originally Posted by buckeyefootball4
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05-11-2006, 01:51 PM #155Senior Member
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
if u can turf thats what i would do.. what times have u been running
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last time i did my 10 it was a 1.47-1.57. last 40 bests were 4.48 and 4.51 or 4.52. scattered with some 4.6s in there. its very rarely that someone is around to hit me up with a time bc all my boys are working or at school and i run at 1230 in the day. wish i had someone to consistenly work with to really look my progress.
i talked with my boy who i am supposed to workout with tommmrow so hopefully he doesnt bail.
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Originally Posted by JJEB2
u havent time any 20's
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