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[buckeyefootball4]

so whats the plan now, r u gonna start training tomm maybe some tempo mon and start with some speed on tue or wed.

[JJEB2]

so whats the plan now, r u gonna start training tomm maybe some tempo mon and start with some speed on tue or wed.

honestly no. i am gonan rest till wed bc i cant even put pressure on my wrist bc as u will see on my one on ones i go up for the ball twice and did something to it. so i am gonan rest. then its back to the chopping block. def with tempo days. i am gona lift legs twice a week as well again. i am just gonna kick my ass these next few weeks. but rest is needed right now for a few days.

[buckeyefootball4]

everyone diff, but if u know for a fact that u made it to indy u should try during something sooner, tempos would help u recover faster thats what they are for. but only u know ur body u may be totally trash and need more rest, i think that u dont want to workout until u know for sure u made it???

[JJEB2]

everyone diff, but if u know for a fact that u made it to indy u should try during something sooner, tempos would help u recover faster thats what they are for. but only u know ur body u may be totally trash and need more rest, i think that u dont want to workout until u know for sure u made it???

nah bc i could possibly get a call bc as the guy was saying that 60 guys that were signed didnt even go to the elite. and 40 made the elite. so that tells ya something. i need to go so i will bitch and bitch and bitch about my 40 to get me in bc that was bullshit.

[buckeyefootball4]

nah bc i could possibly get a call bc as the guy was saying that 60 guys that were signed didnt even go to the elite. and 40 made the elite. so that tells ya something. i need to go so i will bitch and bitch and bitch about my 40 to get me in bc that was bullshit.

what r u talking bout? most of the guys who do get sign or by afl teams only like one guy last yr sign with a nfl and that was with the jet db

[JJEB2]

what r u talking bout? most of the guys who do get sign or by afl teams only like one guy last yr sign with a nfl and that was with the jet db

huh? i didnt say nfl i just said signed. the guy talkingsaid 100 something people got signed. 40 from elite and 60 that didnt go to the elite. he was trying to keep the spirits high for those who dont go to the elite.

[JJEB2]

http://www.combines.com/news/news_story.asp?storyID=191

apparently only 40 of these guys went to the elite, 60 went under a 8.5.

[JJEB2]

so here is my full write up regarding the combine with what was done?what i did ect ect.

we got there and they called out our names. we were sent to a line and had to sign a waiver. we started fairly early bc the other group was smaller. we got our shirts and numbers. then proceeded to put those on.

we had free time so all of the guys started to stretch and warm up. I did a small dynamic warm up. so after that they huddled us together. they spoke to us about what is going to happen. so basically we all warm up to get cold.

warm ups- oh my lord these guys are assholes. they had us run a lap then do some static stretches and then forms. so basically we warm up ourselves, get cold and then do a shitty warm up. so it was up, then down and then half way up again.

they then brought us back into a group and gave us our numbers which took 5 mins. so i stayed moving during this. but wasnt completely warm from that shitty warm up.

my first event was the vert. they didnt take the reach right there. we went in order of our numbers. each guy was given a few shots until they missed and it seemed like depending on the person more chances were given. most guys stood around and were ****in around. i tried to stay warm during this. i got under and just jumped like a dink and laughed at mysef bc they only said i hit two but i hit alot more. next jump i got high. second jump i got 3 more. next one i didnt hit it and started to yell to myself and the coach asked if i was alright haha. then i missed it again.

next was the short shuttle. at this time it was drizzling and the clouds had covered the sky. they told us if we slipped and ran through they would give us a chance at the end to do it again. the first one i didnt have my feet under me and i slipped but caught myself and i still ended up with a 4.37 to my right which is my bad side. my left side i hit my 4.18. it was a clean run. they let me go again but i dont know what i got but i felt extremely tight.

now here is where i almost lost my mind. after SS they send us to ****in height and weight. hahah what a bunch of ****in stiffs. are u kidding me. now it is raining and cold. we are wet and going to get tight without movement. we did our height, weight, hand span, wing. everyone was bitching about there height. mine was off quite a bit. my weight was down. before i got there my boy that i played with came over bc he was in the am session and said he was 10 pounds down from yesterday. i was down 4 which could be that i was running around and sweating. very possible. i ended up with 5113 which i usually am 6013. i was 226. i had a 7'7 reach. wing was 31.5 and hand was 9'. so based on my height my hand span, wing and reach are alot higher than normal.

off to the 40s. up and down up and down. had to get warm again. did some warm ups and did some starts and sprints. got warm again. came out low and hard. everything was clean and i popped up at a decent spot. friends said i looked good. two guys yelled out times to me from teh stands since the timers dont yell out. funny thing is when i went through the line i was probably 3 yards past and i hear another watch hit. i can almost guarntee they didnt hit the watch when the first part of my body went by. second one wasnt as good. fatigue started to hit from all the getting cold, getting warm ect ect. everyones times were horrible except for a few.

on the 40 i dont know how i should approach the situation. i will have u look at it and if it is faster i would like to hear ur advice as how i should take it to brad.

now to the photo and bench. as i said before we wamred up once with 135. then we had to assist in spot. everyone was cheating here. barely any lockouts on the kid before me and it really pissed me off. some guys locked out and some didnt. i couldnt believe he was counting them. honestly these werent even close. i personally got off my rythmn. i mad ethe mistake of not breatheing my first 8 or so. i locked them all out and just died. fatigue won that battle hahah.

one on ones- every single route was an out and up. we couldnt bump. i personally did shitty. i didnt trust what i was seeing. my hip rotation was shitty. i didnt have any luck bc two balls were thrown up and i was in position and i tipped them but i fell and then they ended up catching it hahah. u will see and i am gonna break it down and work on it.

[buckeyefootball4]

so here is my full write up regarding the combine with what was done?what i did ect ect.

we got there and they called out our names. we were sent to a line and had to sign a waiver. we started fairly early bc the other group was smaller. we got our shirts and numbers. then proceeded to put those on.

we had free time so all of the guys started to stretch and warm up. I did a small dynamic warm up. so after that they huddled us together. they spoke to us about what is going to happen. so basically we all warm up to get cold.

warm ups- oh my lord these guys are assholes. they had us run a lap then do some static stretches and then forms. so basically we warm up ourselves, get cold and then do a shitty warm up. so it was up, then down and then half way up again.

they then brought us back into a group and gave us our numbers which took 5 mins. so i stayed moving during this. but wasnt completely warm from that shitty warm up.

my first event was the vert. they didnt take the reach right there. we went in order of our numbers. each guy was given a few shots until they missed and it seemed like depending on the person more chances were given. most guys stood around and were ****in around. i tried to stay warm during this. i got under and just jumped like a dink and laughed at mysef bc they only said i hit two but i hit alot more. next jump i got high. second jump i got 3 more. next one i didnt hit it and started to yell to myself and the coach asked if i was alright haha. then i missed it again.

next was the short shuttle. at this time it was drizzling and the clouds had covered the sky. they told us if we slipped and ran through they would give us a chance at the end to do it again. the first one i didnt have my feet under me and i slipped but caught myself and i still ended up with a 4.37 to my right which is my bad side. my left side i hit my 4.18. it was a clean run. they let me go again but i dont know what i got but i felt extremely tight.

now here is where i almost lost my mind. after SS they send us to ****in height and weight. hahah what a bunch of ****in stiffs. are u kidding me. now it is raining and cold. we are wet and going to get tight without movement. we did our height, weight, hand span, wing. everyone was bitching about there height. mine was off quite a bit. my weight was down. before i got there my boy that i played with came over bc he was in the am session and said he was 10 pounds down from yesterday. i was down 4 which could be that i was running around and sweating. very possible. i ended up with 5113 which i usually am 6013. i was 226. i had a 7'7 reach. wing was 31.5 and hand was 9'. so based on my height my hand span, wing and reach are alot higher than normal.

off to the 40s. up and down up and down. had to get warm again. did some warm ups and did some starts and sprints. got warm again. came out low and hard. everything was clean and i popped up at a decent spot. friends said i looked good. two guys yelled out times to me from teh stands since the timers dont yell out. funny thing is when i went through the line i was probably 3 yards past and i hear another watch hit. i can almost guarntee they didnt hit the watch when the first part of my body went by. second one wasnt as good. fatigue started to hit from all the getting cold, getting warm ect ect. everyones times were horrible except for a few.

on the 40 i dont know how i should approach the situation. i will have u look at it and if it is faster i would like to hear ur advice as how i should take it to brad.

now to the photo and bench. as i said before we wamred up once with 135. then we had to assist in spot. everyone was cheating here. barely any lockouts on the kid before me and it really pissed me off. some guys locked out and some didnt. i couldnt believe he was counting them. honestly these werent even close. i personally got off my rythmn. i mad ethe mistake of not breatheing my first 8 or so. i locked them all out and just died. fatigue won that battle hahah.

one on ones- every single route was an out and up. we couldnt bump. i personally did shitty. i didnt trust what i was seeing. my hip rotation was shitty. i didnt have any luck bc two balls were thrown up and i was in position and i tipped them but i fell and then they ended up catching it hahah. u will see and i am gonna break it down and work on it.

yep samething as last year, got to be ready for everything, and it helps if you have gone before. thats why i think my guys will do ok bc they are track guys and track guys are use to warmup/cooldown/warmup/colddown. many guys at the combines always feel like they are faster, thats why it pays to have a laser.

[JJEB2]

yea they will be fine. i wish i was totally aware of what was going on. i screwd up myself in not doing too many tempos.

i changed my mind as well. i am gonna pretend like today is a speed day and not do it and tommorow doa tempo day just to stay on track.

yes definately should have used laser.

[buckeyefootball4]

yea they will be fine. i wish i was totally aware of what was going on. i screwd up myself in not doing too many tempos.

i changed my mind as well. i am gonna pretend like today is a speed day and not do it and tommorow doa tempo day just to stay on track.

yes definately should have used laser.

so how do you plan on training now, lift 4 etc, i have to go soon my guys are coming in

[buckeyefootball4]

a lot of the stuff that happen i told you, like the warmups etc. this is how my guys did there warmup last yr:

during the jog they jog /skip jog 50/skip 50
then static strecth but they only held each strecth 10sec
sprint drills hard and fast
while the guy was talking they put pants back on and stay moving bouncing

and before each event they had a event specific warmup to get them ready for that event

[JJEB2]

a lot of the stuff that happen i told you, like the warmups etc. this is how my guys did there warmup last yr:

during the jog they jog /skip jog 50/skip 50
then static strecth but they only held each strecth 10sec
sprint drills hard and fast
while the guy was talking they put pants back on and stay moving bouncing

and before each event they had a event specific warmup to get them ready for that event

yea i bouned but didnt keep pants on. what were ur event specific warm ups?

[buckeyefootball4]

yea i bouned but didnt keep pants on. what were ur event specific warm ups?

nothing special:

vj:
strecth hips and lats
pogo jumps
5 speed squats

40yd: u know the norm
starts fall and 3point

shuttle:
crossover spider crossover spider

bp: warmup and speed pushups

[buckeyefootball4]

one of my guys had a head case today bc today was our first day running outside on the turf and he ran a 4.50 againist the wind, and i told him on a normal hot day that would probably be 4.45.

[JJEB2]

one of my guys had a head case today bc today was our first day running outside on the turf and he ran a 4.50 againist the wind, and i told him on a normal hot day that would probably be 4.45.

yea i would have been scared myself but definately into the wind will kill a time. he will be fine. hopefully you have a good person on the clock.

[buckeyefootball4]

yea i would have been scared myself but definately into the wind will kill a time. he will be fine. hopefully you have a good person on the clock.

yeh i think he will be fine, i really dont know how fast my guys will run until there cns start to recover- but i will always put my money on guys that have ran track.

[JJEB2]

tempo day:
14 80s@ 75%

tonight i have ME lower

[JJEB2]

buckeye if i have my speed work mon, wed and fri and my leg days on tues and fri or sat should i do my plyos with my leg days or on monday and fri or sat?

[buckeyefootball4]

buckeye if i have my speed work mon, wed and fri and my leg days on tues and fri or sat should i do my plyos with my leg days or on monday and fri or sat?

thats bad bad i wouldnt do speed on m-w-f and leg t-th: i would something like:

mon: acc work, med ball, plyos, total body weights (lower speed squats)

tue: tempo first couple weeks 100-200's

wed: starts, speed work up to 60yd,plyos, total body weight (lower single leg work)

thur: tempos

fri: starts, flying 20's, med ball, plyos, total body weights (lower heavy bsq and fsq or just 4in blk deadlifts.

sat: tempo

sun rest

[JJEB2]

thats bad bad i wouldnt do speed on m-w-f and leg t-th: i would something like:

mon: acc work, med ball, plyos, total body weights (lower speed squats)

tue: tempo first couple weeks 100-200's

wed: starts, speed work up to 60yd,plyos, total body weight (lower single leg work)

thur: tempos

fri: starts, flying 20's, med ball, plyos, total body weights (lower heavy bsq and fsq or just 4in blk deadlifts.

sat: tempo

sun rest

aight i wish i saw this prior to doing the workout bc i did legs heavy today. i will switch to something of this nature. legs felt good today eventhough i was extremely sore. i worked up to 495 on bsq today which is the heaviest i have hit ina long time.
the tempo day made my legs feel alot better today. i felt really strong in all my lifts and extremely explosive.

tommorow i find out if i go to indy or not. praying that i get that 8.75 in strength, 10 in quickness, 7 in height and weight and 8.5 in speed.

[buckeyefootball4]

aight i wish i saw this prior to doing the workout bc i did legs heavy today. i will switch to something of this nature. legs felt good today eventhough i was extremely sore. i worked up to 495 on bsq today which is the heaviest i have hit ina long time.
the tempo day made my legs feel alot better today. i felt really strong in all my lifts and extremely explosive.

tommorow i find out if i go to indy or not. praying that i get that 8.75 in strength, 10 in quickness, 7 in height and weight and 8.5 in speed.

let me know? u may be close on the size, the quickness should be fine.

[JJEB2]

let me know? u may be close on the size, the quickness should be fine.

definately. i will know by tommorow at noon.

[JJEB2]

buckeye i made it with an 8.52.

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[JJEB2]

Ht Wt DOB Exp
5116 226 7/19/1983 FA
1st 40 1st 40 2nd 40 2nd 40
4.80 4.80 4.76 4.79
R-SS L-SS Bench VJ
4.37 4.18 19 38
Arm Hand
31.25 9

[buckeyefootball4]

our bench program is going great now i had a guy who couldnt even bp 315 at the start and now hes during 350 in matter of weeks and his 225 reps has gone up 8reps

[JJEB2]

Size Speed Quickness Strength FTG
6.88 8.53 10.00 8.65 8.52

[buckeyefootball4]

let me see ur 40, u can message me the pw.

[JJEB2]

let me see ur 40, u can message me the pw.

it isnt up yet until friday. i will hit u up when i get it.

[buckeyefootball4]

it isnt up yet until friday. i will hit u up when i get it.

yeh i thought ur size ur would be less then 7. how accurate has our numbers been, so do u have a better idea want my fb would need?

[JJEB2]

yeh i thought ur size ur would be less then 7. how accurate has our numbers been, so do u have a better idea want my fb would need?

they said the 40 is dependent upon size. so it can bring it up and down. he need s 4.1 something to get a 10 in quickness. he needs to jump around that 34 mark and get 20 reps like we spoke about. as u can see i made it by the skin of my teeth

[JJEB2]

i sent u a pm bro

[buckeyefootball4]

they said the 40 is dependent upon size. so it can bring it up and down. he need s 4.1 something to get a 10 in quickness. he needs to jump around that 34 mark and get 20 reps like we spoke about. as u can see i made it by the skin of my teeth

WAIT, WHAT U MEAN THE 40 IS DEPENDENT UPON SIZE???

so you u think 20reps and 34vj will get him the 9 in strength? what bout 40?

when you ran ur 4.1 shuttle how did you feel, and what tech did u use? myself i run my best shuttle when i get down and just run relaxed and smooth dont try and push and go super fast, how bout u?

[JJEB2]

WAIT, WHAT U MEAN THE 40 IS DEPENDENT UPON SIZE???

so you u think 20reps and 34vj will get him the 9 in strength? what bout 40?

when you ran ur 4.1 shuttle how did you feel, and what tech did u use? myself i run my best shuttle when i get down and just run relaxed and smooth dont try and push and go super fast, how bout u?

well that guy that ran our combine said that if ur a bigger guy and rana slower 40 that is taken into consideration. so if ur 250 and its slower then u get some points as if someone the smaller ran teh same thig at a different size.

i think with those numbers he should get a 9. at fb and he breaks a 4.5 then he def has a 10 no doubt. i think even a 4.5 will get a 10.

honestly i just didnt think much about the technique and all that garbage. i just made sure i drove on my first step and i come in kind of fast on that first one. i noticed alot of guys would slow down but i kinda crossed over and ran. i did the hand down technique on both turns and tried to stay low but iam sure i didnt stay as low as i should have.

[buckeyefootball4]

well that guy that ran our combine said that if ur a bigger guy and rana slower 40 that is taken into consideration. so if ur 250 and its slower then u get some points as if someone the smaller ran teh same thig at a different size.

i think with those numbers he should get a 9. at fb and he breaks a 4.5 then he def has a 10 no doubt. i think even a 4.5 will get a 10.

honestly i just didnt think much about the technique and all that garbage. i just made sure i drove on my first step and i come in kind of fast on that first one. i noticed alot of guys would slow down but i kinda crossed over and ran. i did the hand down technique on both turns and tried to stay low but iam sure i didnt stay as low as i should have.

so really the numbers are not as hard as we thought bc at one point we said 24reps and 36in.. that guy is full of shit, size dont matter, but who am i, ask brad.

[JJEB2]

so really the numbers are not as hard as we thought bc at one point we said 24reps and 36in.. that guy is full of shit, size dont matter, but who am i, ask brad.

yea. but if u look my vert was so high that it covered me on my **** up on the bench. but the numbers are right where i thought they were. i was .1 off bc i thought i got a 8.62. but i didnt expect my siz eto be so low. i have to put on some size for real now.

[buckeyefootball4]

yea. but if u look my vert was so high that it covered me on my **** up on the bench. but the numbers are right where i thought they were. i was .1 off bc i thought i got a 8.62. but i didnt expect my siz eto be so low. i have to put on some size for real now.

stay at ur size, continue to get fast, jump higher and reps!! i feel like my will get 22reps he did 18 last fri. The new supp has really help his strength.

[JJEB2]

stay at ur size, continue to get fast, jump higher and reps!! i feel like my will get 22reps he did 18 last fri. The new supp has really help his strength.

yea then he should do fine man. now worries i would say and u have 2 weeks of training left so he is straight. just hope that his shit is in the beginning if thats his weakest point. bc everyone was down atleast 4 or 5 reps.

did u see the weather report on my shit. 10-20mph winds and rain hahah. so thats prob why everyones times were garbage.

[JJEB2]

to get a 9 ur boy would need to get 23-24 reps and a 33 inch vert. so figure if he gets a 34 and 22 reps he is at about a 9.

[buckeyefootball4]

yea then he should do fine man. now worries i would say and u have 2 weeks of training left so he is straight. just hope that his shit is in the beginning if thats his weakest point. bc everyone was down atleast 4 or 5 reps.

did u see the weather report on my shit. 10-20mph winds and rain hahah. so thats prob why everyones times were garbage.

for rb they will go 40/bp/vj/shuttle/sprinkle in the reach and shit. i really dont know why people reps drop off bc i had guys who went last yr that got the same in training the only thing that screw them up was the phat bar they had. how many week u have left and whats the plan?