Old guy making a comeback...

**gbrice75** · 11-07-2010, 01:10 PM

LoL, so those posts were your brother's, huh? Did the dog eat your homework too? Little man, you are so transparent, it's sickening. You stating with pride that you ran your first cycle at 17 tells us EVERYTHING we need to know about you!

Buh bye Calstate23. You and your alter ego - I mean half brother - can go troll around and parrot your crap on another board. Take care pal, I wish ya a million dollars a minute!

**gbrice75** · 11-07-2010, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by LBSOMEIRON

See GB. That's what I'm talking about when I say I dont pull punches. You'd probably be very surprised at who I am if we met in person. I'm the calm, cool and collected dude running with a bunch of hardcore meatheads. I'm the dude at the bar that leaves with a chick while my steakheads are trying to find someone to look at then cross-eyed. Not my thing. I'm a closet CPA for god's sake.

Having said that, I'm passionate about this game. More so than probably 95% of the world. I want to bring out the best in everyone and doing things half-assed doesn't fly with me. Bodyilders/fitness enthusiasts are in the minority. We are looked at as everything from weird to homosexual. Whatever the case, the more I can get to crossover the better.

Just please train at a different time than me. I like open space in my gym.

I'm still taking a sabbatical.

I stand by my ways, but two people preaching different methods only results in confusion. It's not an act of cowardness. I just need to spend more time focusing on myself. As selfish as that sounds.

Agreed, people don't always come across as who they really are over the internet, let alone on forums. I know you come off the way you do because you are passionate about this - that's obvious. I remember in one of our first conversations, you stating that "I will probably say you're being a dick... but....." - and I told you that I appreciated the forward approach. I wouldn't want somebody pissing on me and telling me it's raining...

The problem is, whether you meant to or not, it APPEARS that you are gunning for Twist, that you sort of have it out for him and/or are commenting just to debunk what he says. I truly believe there is very little in this sport that is right or wrong; rather, it's VERY individualistic. That said, there is plenty to be learned from both of you. I agree that you need to focus on yourself, because you'd be shortchanging yourself if you didn't. That doesn't mean you need to go away though. Just my .02

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-07-2010, 01:24 PM

Lol. I've heard a lot of bs 'this question is for my umm friend, etc' but the step brother (is he evil?) took over my account and asked these questions is new. Congrats. Very creative.

The fact that you said anyone can come here a be 'Joe blow' immidiately makes you lose all credibility. No one here cares to be someone they aren't. The board, in general, assume most are ethical human beings.

You my friend, are the exception. You are also a complete joke. To sit behind that keyboard a claim you dance with the pros and there is absolutely nothing more you need to learn, future illustrates how much of a joke you truly are.

Ask Jay or Kai if they are done learning....lol.

Other than that, if you read my caption on my tat picture, you'd notice it said Photoshop. I was looking to get one and wanted to see what it looked like. Personally I have no idea how to Photoshop, it was done by someone on this board. In any event, it has nothing to do with what I am or who I say I am.

I know damn well there are dudes thrice my size. I train with two guys that blow me out of the water. It only makes me train harder.

So my good buddy, do some research on the high gi debate. You'll see very quickly it was shot down prob around the sane time you had your first wet dream....about 5 years ago.

If you are older than 20, I'd be suprised. No, shocked and upset that you've made it this far living under a rock..

Carry on..my next million dollar bet is that you change your account info (if you havent already).

Ps. I do pretty well in Vegas.

**tbody66** · 11-07-2010, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by calstate23

First off, things aren't always what they seem to be (More on that later)....I checked your page. Apparently like your "Photoshoped tattoo", things can always be deceiving. Looks like you have some experience in photoshop. Anyway, Anyone can post up a picture that isn't even them...Like the other 95% percent of the people on here...Anyone can be joe blow off the street.

I read these links and those would have been embarrassing if it was the same person. My half brother I haven't even seen or talked in years had no other option to live with me...I have never even seen or heard of this site until maybe a week or 2 ago when my brother left his laptop open on this page...I started scrollin through the site to see what kind of knowledge the guys had in here..I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly....Like I said, everything isn't always what it seems to be.

I could really care less what you think about me. I have my knowledge and I also have a great deal of VERY credible sources I get my knowledge from..If you most likely have noticed there has definitely been no questions being asked on my part since I found out what this site even was.

I've been working out since I was 14 and did my first cycle when I was 17 and have been on and off every year since. I don't need any information on a cycle whatso ever. Again I don't know why I just wasted my time even writing this because like I said I could care less what anyone thinks they "know" about me.

As for the disrespecting part...Again, you might want to be the one to check that. I made one comment, not rude or disrespectful like I said...Instead I got comment like complete horsesh!t ....Yeah, that sure is disagreeing with someone in a correct manner.

Again, I train with guys and get knowledge from people that have been on stage and get paid for it on a daily basis. Guys that are bigger then the pictures that lbsomeiron has got up even if it is him or not. And I know for a fact what these guys are using and how they use it...The fact is they are using insulin and they are doing it directly after a workout and are then taking in simple carbs...Please tell me how this is outdated when insulin use is being used by the top dogs today? Take it for what it is or not but the truth is just the truth...I don't need to learn or to be taught anything I can guarantee you that.

Anyone who is in a position to say they don't need to learn or be taught anything is the biggest idiot on the planet. But, hey, why not, a steroid user since 17 years of age, idiot. I have credentials but won't share them, idiot. My half-brother started this account with my online name and I am not smart enough to create my own account so I don't have to explain his stupidity and say it isn't mine, idiot. I know people who get paid to do this everyday, I don't get paid to do this everyday, but I lift at at the gym they lift at so I'm going to talk to you as if I am them, idiot.

Very few people here need to know what the top ten Mr. O competitors do, it has no application to anyone not on the Mr. O stage, by your own statements, stating that you are the one and only genius, point of reference and god of all that is bodybuilding you prove how stupid you are by throwing that out as validation. You admitted to jumping into my thread, reading my first diet, that was admitted crap and saying I need to suck down pure sugar post workout, when confronted about it you state that the top 10 guys on the Mr. O stage do it and then interchange that with taking insulin immediately after a workout, as if they are the exact same thing, what on earth would that have to do with 99.9% of the people on this board, let alone me specifically?

You have been rude and disrespectful and violated rules of this board. I think you should take one of two roads here.

Road #1, apologize to everyone, ask the mods to delete all of your threads, create your own account under your own online ID and spend some time here earning respect while having an attitude of humility and respect for others, some of whom do have more knowledge and experience than you.

Road #2, create your own board, maybe entitled, Know-It-All-Am-I, and vomit your tainted, one answer for everyone because I Know someone, who knows someone, who knows someone, opinions for the masses.

I know you won't do either, because you are a 26 year old who has no need to learn, and command zero respect to be listened to as a teacher, who has spent, by their own admission, a lifetime taking short-cuts over working hard or smart. I pray I'm wrong, but have seen too many of you to believe I am.

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-07-2010, 01:30 PM

Ps. I came back just to settle the score with the evil step brother.

I can't be called out and not say my piece.

As for Twist, in no way an I gunning for him. Just calling it out when I see something that I know is inaccurate.
He or anyone else should do the same with me.

**tbody66** · 11-07-2010, 02:47 PM

I think we are all on the same page, there is a difference between something being known as inaccurate and something you believe is a better approach and something you believe is a better approach for some people but not all people.

**Twist** · 11-07-2010, 03:10 PM

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...48#post5421848
So we don't clog your thread.

**tbody66** · 11-07-2010, 04:13 PM

Cool, checked it out and weighed in already. I'm gonna miss the post counts =(

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-07-2010, 04:34 PM

How long have you been consistent with the diet?

My concern is carbs without a carb up.

Email me a pic.

**tbody66** · 11-07-2010, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by LBSOMEIRON

How long have you been consistent with the diet?

My concern is carbs without a carb up.

Email me a pic.

nine days, with a cheat meal last night (by design, not failure or lack of will-power, I was flushed from the carb depletion and it was affecting my look and my outlook) I think it served it's purpose and hopefully will make everything click again like it did the first 5 or 6 days. I still have not weighed, and have pledged to avoid it for November, I don't miss it actually. I am only going to take pics in am, pre-any consumption, I'll take one in the morning and e-mail it to you.

Thanks for everything.

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-07-2010, 05:09 PM

Very good.

I still want the sodium down this week. No extra salt on anything. No pickles or any high sodium foods. 1-2 gallons of water. Even mustard. Use it sparingly. You wouldn't think it has a lot of sodium but at 80mg per serving and 80 servings in a bottle, it does. No other condiments.

Designed cheat days are fine, just keep me posted preferably beforehand with a picture.

**tbody66** · 11-07-2010, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by LBSOMEIRON

Very good.

I still want the sodium down this week. No extra salt on anything. No pickles or any high sodium foods. 1-2 gallons of water. Even mustard. Use it sparingly. You wouldn't think it has a lot of sodium but at 80mg per serving and 80 servings in a bottle, it does. No other condiments.

Designed cheat days are fine, just keep me posted preferably beforehand with a picture.

Sorry, that was on me, won't happen again. I don't use condiments, so that won't be a problem, and since next week is photo week, I already told my wife I'd be sodium restricted this week, and thusly had planned upping the water from one gallon a day to two.

**tbody66** · 11-08-2010, 07:12 PM

perfect diet day again, skipped leg workout, death in the family.

**gbrice75** · 11-08-2010, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by tbody66

perfect diet day again, skipped leg workout, death in the family.

Congrats on the diet, but ugh! Sorry to hear that man. Anybody close to you?

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-08-2010, 07:54 PM

Sorry bro......my thoughts and prayers.

**tbody66** · 11-08-2010, 08:38 PM

My wife's Grand-Father, 97 years old, funeral's friday, thanks for the thoughts and prayers. LB, I e-mailed you some pics I took this morning, let me know how we're doing.

**gbrice75** · 11-09-2010, 10:43 AM

God bless him, at least he lived a long life!

**First6** · 11-09-2010, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by tbody66

perfect diet day again, skipped leg workout, death in the family.

Sorry to hear it T. It's never easy. Ihope you and your wife are doing okay.

**tbody66** · 11-09-2010, 07:38 PM

He did live a good life, that is helpful, have viewing tomorrow, meet with family, funeral friday, gym closed here thursday for veteran's day, so I'll miss lifting all week, but will still stick with diet and post pics this weekend.

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-09-2010, 08:04 PM

97 is a great life. If I make it to 79 I'm happy.

Check your mail.

We are getting there bro.

**tbody66** · 11-09-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by LBSOMEIRON

97 is a great life. If I make it to 79 I'm happy.

Check your mail.

We are getting there bro.

I'm on my way. Go check out my new thread, please, I've been thinking about what I posted on there all day and couldn't wait to get home and post!

**tbody66** · 11-10-2010, 10:56 PM

Kept my calories low all day since I knew there was a post-viewing family meal, didn't go too crazy, had a sandwich. Anyway, nothing else to report, won't be lifting this week, but I actually think my body will be better off for it.

**LBSOMEIRON** · 11-11-2010, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by tbody66

Kept my calories low all day since I knew there was a post-viewing family meal, didn't go too crazy, had a sandwich. Anyway, nothing else to report, won't be lifting this week, but I actually think my body will be better off for it.

Sometimes training during these times is better for the mind then the body. But, if you can't for other reasons, a week off will be fine.

Stay strong....

**cue_artist** · 11-11-2010, 06:40 AM

I agree with LB. Whenever I feel sad or stressed the first place I think of is going to the gym. I feel that the stress leaves my body with every rep I do. After the gym I truely feel relieved. Just stay strong bro and keep up the goodwork. You've come a long way and your pics are truely showing some huge differences. Keep it up bro.

**tbody66** · 11-11-2010, 07:11 AM

Thanks, I'll keep you all posted.

**First6** · 11-11-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by tbody66

I'm on my way. Go check out my new thread, please, I've been thinking about what I posted on there all day and couldn't wait to get home and post!

Where is the new thread?

**charcold** · 11-11-2010, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by First6

Where is the new thread?

Under review by the mods

**tbody66** · 11-11-2010, 05:17 PM

I sure thought it was a great idea, I hope that they at least tell us what the problem was, delete it and let us go on with it.

**tbody66** · 11-11-2010, 07:26 PM

Okay, totally honest question here, does this new avy make my traps look too massive and sexy???

**gbrice75** · 11-11-2010, 07:38 PM

Bump! Because I felt like it!

Your traps were already too massive and sexy...

**tbody66** · 11-11-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by gbrice75

Bump! Because I felt like it!

Your traps were already too massive and sexy...

Your brutal honesty is just one of the many reasons I love you so much!

**Twist** · 11-12-2010, 12:52 AM

Those are traps? I thought your neck grew biceps

**cue_artist** · 11-12-2010, 01:03 AM

HAHAHAHAHA nice one Twist. Good job TB definitly making some good progress.

**tbody66** · 11-12-2010, 07:50 AM

Thanks Twist and Cue!

**cue_artist** · 11-12-2010, 08:01 AM

Your welcome Tb.
All of us are waiting for your progress pics ...

**tbody66** · 11-12-2010, 08:41 AM

Heading to the funeral fellas, keep this diet section hoppin' while I'm gone, would ya?

**gbrice75** · 11-12-2010, 08:49 AM

You got it man. My condolences to the fams...

**First6** · 11-12-2010, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by tbody66

Okay, totally honest question here, does this new avy make my traps look too massive and sexy???

Oh! they are traps! I was gonna suggest you see a Doctor for those tumors.

**First6** · 11-12-2010, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by tbody66

Heading to the funeral fellas, keep this diet section hoppin' while I'm gone, would ya?

All right Man. We'll be here when you get back.
Thinkin of ya.

**calstate23** · 11-12-2010, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by LBSOMEIRON

Lol. I've heard a lot of bs 'this question is for my umm friend, etc' but the step brother (is he evil?) took over my account and asked these questions is new. Congrats. Very creative.

The fact that you said anyone can come here a be 'Joe blow' immidiately makes you lose all credibility. No one here cares to be someone they aren't. The board, in general, assume most are ethical human beings.

You my friend, are the exception. You are also a complete joke. To sit behind that keyboard a claim you dance with the pros and there is absolutely nothing more you need to learn, future illustrates how much of a joke you truly are.

Ask Jay or Kai if they are done learning....lol.

Other than that, if you read my caption on my tat picture, you'd notice it said Photoshop. I was looking to get one and wanted to see what it looked like. Personally I have no idea how to Photoshop, it was done by someone on this board. In any event, it has nothing to do with what I am or who I say I am.

I know damn well there are dudes thrice my size. I train with two guys that blow me out of the water. It only makes me train harder.

So my good buddy, do some research on the high gi debate. You'll see very quickly it was shot down prob around the sane time you had your first wet dream....about 5 years ago.

If you are older than 20, I'd be suprised. No, shocked and upset that you've made it this far living under a rock..

Carry on..my next million dollar bet is that you change your account info (if you havent already).

Ps. I do pretty well in Vegas.

This cracks me up...First, off no it wasn't my brother that "hacked" my account....I never had an account, he did. When he moved in with me we started sharing his laptop because I don't have a computer at my house. Left it open on here and I started scrolling through..I never really cared to make an account so every time I log in its his account........ But what do I expect? I wouldn't expect anyone to believe the "It wasn't me" routine that we see so often with the "convicted" felons...

Great example of why I do not believe in our court systems either...Maybe because of the thousands innocent dudes sitting in jail next to a skin head. I'm sure the old "it wasn't me" tremendously helped his court case. Take it or leave it, I could take less...Is it really that difficult of a "SITUATION" to occur?

Anyway, I never claimed that I didn't need to learn or be taught anything...What you were confused by is that I don't need to be taught or learn anything from random people on a steroid forum.

Secondly, I am not boasting that I used steroids at 17 as if it was something great. I was young and stupid and we all do stupid things at young ages. Obviously, I personally would never take steroids at that age if I could take it back nor would I suggest anyone child to do so either...Although, on the other hand, I did start to learn quite a bit about steroids pretty fast do to my young exposure...I used at as an example as to why I would never ask such a question about steroid use ...I don't need it. Again, not on here I don't...

Again, back to the "High GI debate"...It was a simple remark. I am sorry that you somehow all disagree with this statement but I will still stick by it. For one, being that I've seen what insulin can do first hand. And the reason I bring insulin into this is because that should prove that simple carbs can and do work since it is impossible to be taking insulin and not use simple carbs......Well, in course if you'd like a death wish.....

As long as you take in the right amount of carbs your body isn't going to store as fat until your glycogen levels are fully saturated.....I understand that glycogen isn't a "window of opportunity" type of situation but the fact remains if there is no carbs and your body is looking to replenish glycogen it's going to have to break down something for energy....Why would anyone want to cannibalize themselves even if it was for an hour or 2?

Please just all sit down very silently and ask this question............Is there insulin use in professional bodybuilding?? There just answered your question about simple carbs............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............