HGH log for everyone!

[marcus300]

Well I believe the REAL BEST way would be to test it before injecting it, it is obvious.

The problem is, at least for me, the price I was requested to analyze a vial of HGH.

If you have any private lab with an affordable price, please let me know.

I agree

You looking dry,ripped and condition big boy keep it up

[BJJ]

I agree

You looking dry,ripped and condition big boy keep it up

Grazie

[Xtralarg]

Well I believe the REAL BEST way would be to test it before injecting it, it is obvious.

The problem is, at least for me, the price I was requested to analyze a vial of HGH.

If you have any private lab with an affordable price, please let me know.

What price have you been quoted?

[BJJ]

What price have you been quoted?

500 euro for a vial/ampulla that has to be not less then 10 iu.
I was told they perform three times the check so to be able to give a correct percentage of purity also.

Whatever... it is too much.

I pay 75 euro for checking somatotropin and somatomedin.

[Fantomg]

I did not sleep very well tonight and I do not know if related to the injection of 5 iu took yesterday @ 23:45 pm along with 100 mcg of T4.

Have only read till your post so far. But I want to say re: sleep problems - I'm not running T4 w/HGH, just HGH. EVERY time I've run it before bed (usually inside 45 minutes of trying to sleep) I can't sleep. Toss n turn all night. I tried every other night to double check and each night I used... terrible sleep. WHY?

The difference was I got to eat prior to sleep on nights I didn't pin... protein shake, chicken/beef etc. I've always eaten at night. I've since given up on night pinning and pin at 5am (about 1 hour before I actually get up). Someone have an idea as to why this happens?

[NotSmall]

Have only read till your post so far. But I want to say re: sleep problems - I'm not running T4 w/HGH, just HGH. EVERY time I've run it before bed (usually inside 45 minutes of trying to sleep) I can't sleep. Toss n turn all night. I tried every other night to double check and each night I used... terrible sleep. WHY?

The difference was I got to eat prior to sleep on nights I didn't pin... protein shake, chicken/beef etc. I've always eaten at night. I've since given up on night pinning and pin at 5am (about 1 hour before I actually get up). Someone have an idea as to why this happens?

I inject before bed and it makes me sleep alot lighter, my sleep is more broken and I have strange, quite vivid dreams.

[BJJ]

Have only read till your post so far. But I want to say re: sleep problems - I'm not running T4 w/HGH, just HGH. EVERY time I've run it before bed (usually inside 45 minutes of trying to sleep) I can't sleep. Toss n turn all night. I tried every other night to double check and each night I used... terrible sleep. WHY?

The difference was I got to eat prior to sleep on nights I didn't pin... protein shake, chicken/beef etc. I've always eaten at night. I've since given up on night pinning and pin at 5am (about 1 hour before I actually get up). Someone have an idea as to why this happens?

If you refer to the fact that we both cannot sleep on T4, I believe it has something to do with ourselves only. I mean some respond in one way some in another. The deal is to figure out what works for you.

In any case, I solved my problem taking T4 between breakfst and luch, of course on an empty stomach.

[BJJ]

I inject before bed and it makes me sleep alot lighter, my sleep is more broken and I have strange, quite vivid dreams.

See, what I meant we are all different even though still humans.

In my case it is the opposite, since I started to inject before bed I slept much deeper and remembered most of my dreams.
When I switched from sub-q to IM, this result was even expanded.

[Fantomg]

Testing of the Mass Spectrometry and Liquid Chromatography type may be done for $195. Will know Monday. There was an additional method posted (can't find it right this second) that was sent to them as well,(the literature from a link posted by someone on here). They agreed that they would be able to include that if ordered as well. The relationship is being forged by a person who works for a distributor of many HGH products. His intentions are to "open the door" for others wanting their vials contents identified, including but not limited to "potency levels" as well. There was language involved on Friday that indicated they may be able to come in lower than $195 for the MS and LC tests too.
Would love to see you guys confirm your gear as there's no doubt you've worked your arses off and spent hard earned money.

[Fantomg]

I inject before bed and it makes me sleep alot lighter, my sleep is more broken and I have strange, quite vivid dreams.

Yeah - When I DID pin on the sleepless nights, I actually dosed off slightly quite a few times but it was like I was still awake with the craziest vivid dreams. Ones that I actually could control (as I believe I was still awake somewhat).

Ya know - This is actually nice in the fact that it makes me believe I've got real stuff. Funny how I will welcome and like in some sort of sick way painful knuckes and arms falling asleep all the time. If I had these things when I wasn't taking anything I'd be calling the doc scared that I was dying from some heart disease etc. LOL.

Lucky you BJJ - You're getting good sleep with just the HGH before sleep? Everyone IS different to some extent.
Were you a good "sleeper" prior to HGH? (I was not at all)

[BJJ]

Yeah - When I DID pin on the sleepless nights, I actually dosed off slightly quite a few times but it was like I was still awake with the craziest vivid dreams. Ones that I actually could control (as I believe I was still awake somewhat).

Ya know - This is actually nice in the fact that it makes me believe I've got real stuff. Funny how I will welcome and like in some sort of sick way painful knuckes and arms falling asleep all the time. If I had these things when I wasn't taking anything I'd be calling the doc scared that I was dying from some heart disease etc. LOL.

Lucky you BJJ - You're getting good sleep with just the HGH before sleep? Everyone IS different to some extent.
Were you a good "sleeper" prior to HGH? (I was not at all)

I am a trader so from 1995 till the end of 2007 I slept very good lol *except the year 2000 and the 9/11 period.

So, to answer your question, I was a good sleeper but since 2.5 years I am not anymore unfortunately.
HGH is helping me for sure but I do not want to screw up my hypophysis so I will stop soon injecting before bed.

[Fantomg]

Can we agree that Mass Spectrometry and Liquid Chromatography results will provide the CONCLUSIVE answer to what we have (everything in our vial(s) and how much "potency")? There's another method I've posted below from Mr. Rose too. I KNOW we will find a lab here that's affordable - There's a good chance that this may happen TOMORROW at a cost of $195 or less. But please help decide which analytical test on the vial(s) is the one to run. Some of the labs I've called don't help too much in the way of explaining which is the most definitive test. I want, for lack of a better term, "the biggest bang for my buck".


MR. ROSE POSTED THE FOLLOWING IN ANOTHER THREAD:

Please read this amazing article, it explains a patent, specifically formulated to test the purity and biological activity of rhGH.

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/57...scription.html

"Additionally, the wrong choice of manufacturing conditions or formulation may lead to improperly folded polypeptide chains which are biologically inactive. Hence, further methodologies capable of analysis of the protein conformation are needed."

^^ This would be our greatest fear as we know the conditions of some labs in china are not legislated and inspected like those are in other countries with stricter laws. So basicly the company could be making REAL hGH, but due to poor conditions it is biologically inactive.

"currently, the analysis of biopharmaceuticals relies heavily on the use of sophisticated methods for the demonstration of the structural identity, homogeneity and purity of the products. These methods include amino acid and carbohydrate analysis, N- and C-terminal sequence analysis, spectroscopic (UV, CD, ORD) analysis, peptide mapping, electrophoresis, chromatographic purity profile methods, potency/activity assays, etc. It must be emphasized that no one method is considered to be sufficient in itself, and that multiple methods are necessary to completely characterize and/or control such products."

^^ Those above are the current methods to test purity of protein-based recombinant technology creations.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A MAJOR BREAKTHROUGH. IF WE GET THE RIGHT LAB FOR A REASONABLE PRICE. THE DAYS OF GUESSING IF YOU HAVE THE "REAL DEAL" ARE OVER. AND.....THE DAYS OF THE PIECE OF **** COUNTERFEITER(S) ARE NUMBERED.

[Hazard]

BJJ - your looking awesome man! keep up the great work and the great reporting for us!

My fathers blood work came back..... His IGF-1 levels were on the very high end of normal. Now..... He didn't inject 2 days prior to getting blood work..... so i'm hoping this is a good sign considering his IGF-1 levels were in the dirt before he started hgh. He's only using 3iu's.....

~Haz~

[Hazard]

Oh btw XLG..... I sent that website an email about pricing to test HGH..... they got back to me and said they can test it for sure but he wouldn't discuss it over email and wanted me to call him...... which I didn't.....

~Haz~

[BJJ]

BJJ - your looking awesome man! keep up the great work and the great reporting for us!

My fathers blood work came back..... His IGF-1 levels were on the very high end of normal. Now..... He didn't inject 2 days prior to getting blood work..... so i'm hoping this is a good sign considering his IGF-1 levels were in the dirt before he started hgh. He's only using 3iu's.....

~Haz~

gazie

[NotSmall]

Oh btw XLG..... I sent that website an email about pricing to test HGH..... they got back to me and said they can test it for sure but he wouldn't discuss it over email and wanted me to call him...... which I didn't.....

~Haz~

Is that because you are is the US and fear the legal ramifications? - If so PM me the number and I will call them.

[BJJ]

XL I just did a shot of 4 iu and got soon after, about 5', a little headache.
Never happened before, so as per your request, I thought about reporting it.

[Xtralarg]

Oh btw XLG..... I sent that website an email about pricing to test HGH..... they got back to me and said they can test it for sure but he wouldn't discuss it over email and wanted me to call him...... which I didn't.....

~Haz~

Haz

Remind me which lab it was please, I have been dealing with so many over the last few days they are all blending into one

[Xtralarg]

XL I just did a shot of 4 iu and got soon after, about 5', a little headache.
Never happened before, so as per your request, I thought about reporting it.

Thanks BJJ

I doubt that is has anything to do with the hGH, what do you think?

[BJJ]

Thanks BJJ

I doubt that is has anything to do with the hGH, what do you think?

If you say so I grant your statement XL.
Now that I have seen the other thread you started I got a bit worry and perhaps giving importance to things which are not.

[Xtralarg]

Going to back to the subject of sleep whilst using hGH. All I have to report is that I have never slept as well in all my life, I can sleep all night and twice during the day without fail.

Anyone else feel the same?

[Xtralarg]

If you say so I grant your statement XL.
Now that I have seen the other thread you started I got a bit worry and perhaps giving importance to things which are not.

You have your blood test results which tell you that your hGH levels are elivated so you dont have to worry!!

How is the CT today?

[Matt]

Ive started week three, weeks 1/2 were 2ius 5on 2 off. Today and on wards will be 4ius..

Ive noticed my sleeping on injection days is very good and i felt slight numbness in the tips of my fingers.. Ive also noticed my weight is going up daily and presume this is now bloat even at such a low dose, i also feel alittle bloated..

Ive decided to run the 4ius 7 days a week now for at least two months.. Im using Glotropin...

[BJJ]

You have your blood test results which tell you that your hGH levels are elivated so you dont have to worry!!

How is the CT today?

Still bad like yesterday and noticed also my ankles are full of water, I can easily touch it.

[Xtralarg]

Ive started week three, weeks 1/2 were 2ius 5on 2 off. Today and on wards will be 4ius..

Ive noticed my sleeping on injection days is very good and i felt slight numbness in the tips of my fingers.. Ive also noticed my weight is going up daily and presume this is now bloat even at such a low dose, i also feel alittle bloated..

Ive decided to run the 4ius 7 days a week now for at least two months.. Im using Glotropin...

Any update on getting it tested by a lab?

[BJJ]

By the way, this morning I sent my wife to get her blood work prior commencing the HGH cycle.

Tonight around 23:30 I will "hit her" for the first time with 1iu along with 50 mg of T4.
Are those proper dosages?

[Matt]

Any update on getting it tested by a lab?

No mate, im going to see how NS gets on and take it from there, i will however be getting my bloodworks done to see if that gives me an idea..

[Xtralarg]

By the way, this morning I sent my wife to get her blood work prior commencing the HGH cycle.

Tonight around 23:30 I will "hit her" for the first time with 1iu along with 50 mg of T4.
Are those proper dosages?

Sounds good to me.

It will be interesting to find out how she reacts. Will you be working her up to 2iu's eventually?

[Xtralarg]

No mate, im going to see how NS gets on and take it from there, i will however be getting my bloodworks done to see if that gives me an idea..

Well if your results are anything like BJJ's then you should be happy!

[BJJ]

Sounds good to me.

It will be interesting to find out how she reacts. Will you be working her up to 2iu's eventually?

Yes after 2 weeks I was thinking and do not exclude to go higher than that.

In any case, she will follow my blood work protocol so in 7 days we will have other data to compare with mine.

[Xtralarg]

Still bad like yesterday and noticed also my ankles are full of water, I can easily touch it.

Is this any different to your previous sides?

[BJJ]

Is this any different to your previous sides?

Yes in terms of power.
Hands were never tha swollen and also my elbows bother me when I lift weights.

[Xtralarg]

Yes in terms of power.
Hands were never tha swollen and also my elbows bother me when I lift weights.

Just confirm this is from the hyges?

Are you saying that you are now holding more water than before and in more places? Have you have a break during your holiday or have you just gone from one brand to another without a break?

[BJJ]

Just confirm this is from the hyges?

Are you saying that you are now holding more water than before and in more places? Have you have a break during your holiday or have you just gone from one brand to another without a break?

Yes from the hyges which I started 2 days ago.

No break, I went on a holiday with my car in order to carry the hgh with.

[Xtralarg]

Yes from the hyges which I started 2 days ago.

No break, I went on a holiday with my car in order to carry the hgh with.

Thanks for the info.

I will be very interested to see your blood results now you are holding extra water so quickly. When do you get it checked?

[BJJ]

Thanks for the info.

I will be very interested to see your blood results now you are holding extra water so quickly. When do you get it checked?

This Friday morning I will go.

[Xtralarg]

This Friday morning I will go.

When do you get the results?

[BJJ]

When do you get the results?

Usually it takes 5 working days but sometimes even 10.
I speak about HGH and IGF-1.

[Hazard]

Is that because you are is the US and fear the legal ramifications? - If so PM me the number and I will call them.

Yea.... just a bit weary about it..... I'll pm you the number.

Haz

Remind me which lab it was please, I have been dealing with so many over the last few days they are all blending into one

It was Arlok.....

Thomas C. Kupiec, Ph.D.

President/CEO

ARL BioPharma, Inc.

Oklahoma City, OK 73104


~Haz~

[Xtralarg]

Usually it takes 5 working days but sometimes even 10.
I speak about HGH and IGF-1.

Ok well until then I guess we will have to monitor your sides, I hope your headache has gone by now!?!