Bf% estimate

[Java Man]

Thank you sir, it's def been a bit. It's just a lifestyle change. People say pizza - I say protein shake. Lotts of cardio to make up for the crap that I do eat.

Anything above what I do now would be way too life intrusive for my liking.

Next I'm going to try out this diuretic that I have. But, it's just so temporary.

Ever stacked T3 and Clen or Albuterol? I did 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for about a month this past Feb. I had come off a 5 month layoff and was at 24% BF and had lost some strength and LM. I jumped on a light Tren /Test/Dbol cycle, shooting 80 mg TNE daily 2 hours PWO, 80mcg T3 (it's tapered, that's the top level then I taper down EOD by 10mcg and take iodine and Theanine until about a month after it's done. They work together to bring your thyroid function back to normal. it' slike PCT for your thyroid.

So far I have been on this cycle for about 4 or 5 weeks now I guess. I started at 205 or so, 24% BF. As of today I am at 227lbs, 18% BF so it is melting the fat away. You can do T3 or T4 cycles indefinitely. As long as you cycle it. Don't stay on T3 or T4 for long periods, but when done properly Clen/Albuterol + T3 work like magic.

[Java Man]

Looking great brotha! Recomping 5lbs is a lot harder than people realize lol - your doing great things man

Yep. The leaner you get the harder it gets to lose more fat, and add to that the fact that you don't want to lose muscle mass... very difficult indeed. I have never been below 13%. That was my lowest ever, so I have yet to even experience the pain of trying to go sub 10% and keep the mass I've worked so hard for. Honestly though I was happy at 13%. I think unless your goal is to compete there is no reason to go sub 10%. I was plenty vascular and could see striations at 13%. Hell I can see striations at 20% because I tend to hold all of my fat in the waist. My arms and legs have paper thin skin. I can use a 5/8" slin pin and get an IM injection out of it. I do it all the time. Just that damned fat in the belly. Doesn't seem to go away no matter what I do. Maybe I should get lipo.

[< <Samson> >]

I got just a tad leaner than what I am before. But, that was quite drug induced. Now, I focus on staying fairly healthy.

And of course, right on time - my back is fvcked & can't even really move around right now. I put up another thread on this in the workout section.

This time I think is the worst one yet. I seriously can't fvcking move. The last few times were close though.

[< <Samson> >]

It's still funny to me that I know I look huge - specially compared to where I started, but some days I still feel small. Daum bigorexia

[< <Samson> >]

Don't mind the side ways bull crap - since now there is no forum app

[TheTaxMan]

Lmao, you feel small

Im no where near your caliber but i know what you mean

Friends and family will say hey big fella

And im like, i dont even look big what you mean

But when you compare yourself to average folks and look back at old pics you think damn i am big, theres always bigger though and i think that will always be a factor of why we feel small

Look great samson! Your kind of where i want to be, looking healthy, solid and huge/muscular

[Mp859]

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=163358"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=163357"/>It's still funny to me that I know I look huge - specially compared to where I started, but some days I still feel small. Daum bigorexia

you feel small because you are bro :| just playing man, I had to

[< <Samson> >]

It's all in the eye


I stand next to my old self, or the like - I am huge

If I stand next to a guy that's my height & 250 - I feel tiny



But, I always fall back on common sense - 19" arms (finally) are not small, not even close

[Wallstreetbully]

Fellas puttin in wirk

[Wallstreetbully]

I'll post soon

[Wallstreetbully]

Kelkel's back tho!

[bartman314]

i'm small too... at 6'3" 235 and 11% bf. :-(

but i'm not as small as a lot of other guys... :-)

[< <Samson> >]

i'm small too... at 6'3" 235 and 11% bf. :-(

but i'm not as small as a lot of other guys... :-)

Shit, at 5'10" being 235 would b huge

[Heatonx13]

Great job

[< <Samson> >]

Almost 3 years of straight juice, low doses now. And the lower doses seem to be doing more than the higher.

[NACH3]

Almost 3 years of straight juice, low doses now. And the lower doses seem to be doing more than the higher.

Damn looking BIG & Vascular my man how big those arms now(19ish)

Good shit Samson keep killin meng

[< <Samson> >]

Damn looking BIG & Vascular my man how big those arms now(19ish)

A cunt hair under 18.75"


I'll hit 19 this year after my next Deca cycle

Just came of the tren ace - gawd, I love to hate tren. Even at under 200mg a week of ace I felt like shit after 12 weeks. Sleep started to go, anxiety started to set in & my sex drive just tanked

So, back to just test, mast & winni now & I feel 100%

[NACH3]

A cunt hair under 18.75"


I'll hit 19 this year after my next Deca cycle

Just came of the tren ace - gawd, I love to hate tren. Even at under 200mg a week of ace I felt like shit after 12 weeks. Sleep started to go, anxiety started to set in & my sex drive just tanked

So, back to just test, mast & winni now & I feel 100%

Badass!! You'll be there in no time.... Then it'll be ----> 20"s lol

[TheTaxMan]

Its one thing having those measurements but to have them with that bodyfat percentage and vascularity is another thing, great work, respect

[oldnsedentary]

Big changes, Samson, from fat to skinny to muscular! What did those almost 19 inch arms measure in the picture in post #1?

[< <Samson> >]

What did those almost 19 inch arms measure in the picture in post #1?

15.75"

That 3" is a world of a difference

[oldnsedentary]

You added three inches in a year and a half??? WTH? I need some of whatever you are doing.

[kelkel]

Almost 3 years of straight juice, low doses now. And the lower doses seem to be doing more than the higher.

Nice veins!

[< <Samson> >]

You added three inches in a year and a half??? WTH? I need some of whatever you are doing.

Shit, I wish

More like ever since starting juice(ever since I joined in here).

[Northernpumps]

Looking Beastly!! especially in that last pic!! Great work Brother!

[< <Samson> >]

Wife found this today. This is me exactly 5 years ago with 350-400 total test number.

[< <Samson> >]

And this is today - not really feeling 100% either after this long Friday night.

[NACH3]

That's fvkin awesome! Congrats on the lifestyle change!

[< <Samson> >]

That's fvkin awesome! Congrats on the lifestyle change!

That's really the best way to put it

It's not just juice, diet, going to the gym or just eating lotts of protein. . . . It's a fine combination of all over a long period of time.

[NACH3]

That's really the best way to put it

It's not just juice, diet, going to the gym or just eating lotts of protein. . . . It's a fine combination of all over a long period of time.

Well said... I did the same thing when I joined here as well - changed the whole Lifestyle<---- and that's the biggest difference(as well as highlighted in bold) I'm so much happier as I'm sure you are very happy, too... And the feeling of well being

[Dj Screw]

I know I;m late on this thread, but that is an incredible transformation man. "Great job" doesn't do this justice, keep up the good work

[< <Samson> >]

Vitals this AM - this is on a cruise of 350mg of Sust, 200mg of Mast Prop & 10-20mg a day of oral Winni

This is before any of my meds also

I have been pounding the homeopathic supps for almost 2 years now along with a 90-95% whole food only diet. Seems to really pay off - all BW is in check also. And seriously most of the info, I found on here.

I might make a list of what I am on daily, but daum - it will take a while.

[AKD_FitChick]

And this is today - not really feeling 100% either after this long Friday night.

Wow, you are amazing! Great job! Amazing changes!

[Proximal]

It's a fine combination of all over a long period of time.

That combination has been DAMN good to you Samson. In five years if I am 1. Alive, 2. Retired and 3. a fraction of what you have achieved, I will be very happy indeed. Impressive work!

[< <Samson> >]

Yup, still at it - back to a maint dose of sust. Weighing in at right under 210 Lbs.

Digital caliper says 6.9% - which of course is BS. More like 9.9% - I use it just for reference.


Waist is at 33.5" - arms still right under 19"


Deca , Sust & dBol cycle is next - in about 2 months

[NACH3]

Yup, still at it - back to a maint dose of sust. Weighing in at right under 210 Lbs.

Digital caliper says 6.9% - which of course is BS. More like 9.9% - I use it just for reference.


Waist is at 33.5" - arms still right under 19"


Deca, Sust & dBol cycle is next - in about 2 months

Defo lookin under 10% for sure... Lean! You know those calipers are +-3%... So I'd say your about 9ish - arms lookin BIG...

I like that cycle you've got on standby... Very similar to mine atm(just waiting for my d-Bol, drol, & winny

[NACH3]

Vitals this AM - this is on a cruise of 350mg of Sust, 200mg of Mast Prop & 10-20mg a day of oral Winni
This is before any of my meds also
I have been pounding the homeopathic supps for almost 2 years now along with a 90-95% whole food only diet. Seems to really pay off - all BW is in check also. And seriously most of the info, I found on here.
I might make a list of what I am on daily, but daum - it will take a while.

How do you like low dose oral winny @ those doses, while on your cruise? Am very tempted to do so when I am

[< <Samson> >]

How do you like low dose oral winny @ those doses, while on your cruise? Am very tempted to do so when I am

It's a nice addition

I focus on keeping my doses as low as possible - seems to be working so far


Most I have run is 30mg per day & that's just on a few heavy lift days.

[Marsoc]

I have solid calves & it's the only part of my leg that I work

I will work on my legs as soon as one girl asks me to flex my leg. Lmao


I'm no bodybuilder - I just do what I want to look how I want. If I ever competed it would be physique - true bodybuilding just isn't for me.

But, yeah - anyone who really asks to see a before and after of steroid use after a few years is just jaw dropping - Wow

How do you think your upper body gets most of its power. From the ground. Travels threw your legs...any real life applicable situation calls for legs mainly. Plus it looks silly with a big top heavy muscles upper body and little tooth pick cartoon legs lol. Dude you never skip leg day. Main part of the week right there. I'd rather have huge legs then a hug upper..excluding pecs lol and other shit. Forget it i want to be all around efficient a snazzy aesthetic upper lol. No offense. But you never skip leg day. Believe me. The girls will be talking amongst themselves about how small they are compared and how unproportional it is lol. They won't flat out be mean about it lol not talking shit here either. Just saying. I can't help but to comment when I see that someone excludes leg. Smh

[< <Samson> >]

I'll take the leg challenge all day, any day - my legs are huge naturally(right) calves are same size as bi's



And now my back is shit - I pull 3 plates on my deads & that's it. No more crazy weights, my lowest disk has to be compressing. So, I focus on strengthening everything other than exercises that put direct down pressure on my back. Been A ok so far