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    Saw an old exercise on social media a week ago or so and said damn, I used to like them. I tried it for bi's at the end of the past two workouts and damn, what a unique (as in good) feeling. I'm always looking for anything different as my equipment is limited.

    It's a seated curl using a lat pulldown apparatus with a bar that spins (grip moves). Slide in on the seat to where the bar is in line with about the back of your head and try to curl it down. It will feel like your failing as you'll see your elbows bend down as well, it can't be helped so consider it part of the movement. Try it at the end of your bicep workout. It's a great change of pace. Report back please.

    Note: You will hit yourself in the head at least once. If not, you ain't trying....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Saw an old exercise on social media a week ago or so and said damn, I used to like them. I tried it for bi's at the end of the past two workouts and damn, what a unique (as in good) feeling. I'm always looking for anything different as my equipment is limited.

    It's a seated curl using a lat pulldown apparatus with a bar that spins (grip moves). Slide in on the seat to where the bar is in line with about the back of your head and try to curl it down. It will feel like your failing as you'll see your elbows bend down as well, it can't be helped as consider it part of the movement. Try it at the end of your bicep workout. It's a great change of pace. Report back please.

    Note: You will hit yourself in the head at least once. If not, you ain't trying....
    The last time you tried out something new and different .....well, be careful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Saw an old exercise on social media a week ago or so and said damn, I used to like them. I tried it for bi's at the end of the past two workouts and damn, what a unique (as in good) feeling. I'm always looking for anything different as my equipment is limited.

    It's a seated curl using a lat pulldown apparatus with a bar that spins (grip moves). Slide in on the seat to where the bar is in line with about the back of your head and try to curl it down. It will feel like your failing as you'll see your elbows bend down as well, it can't be helped so consider it part of the movement. Try it at the end of your bicep workout. It's a great change of pace. Report back please.

    Note: You will hit yourself in the head at least once. If not, you ain't trying....
    Have you got any video footage because I'm not getting it from your explanation mate?

    Its late over here so i'm a bit slow
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Have you got any video footage because I'm not getting it from your explanation mate?

    Its late over here so i'm a bit slow

    Will try to find something but you're basically sitting like you are going to do a pull down with an underhand grip. You curl it down but as stated your elbows will bend. Basically an overhead cable curl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    The last time you tried out something new and different .....well, be careful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Saw an old exercise on social media a week ago or so and said damn, I used to like them. I tried it for bi's at the end of the past two workouts and damn, what a unique (as in good) feeling. I'm always looking for anything different as my equipment is limited.

    It's a seated curl using a lat pulldown apparatus with a bar that spins (grip moves). Slide in on the seat to where the bar is in line with about the back of your head and try to curl it down. It will feel like your failing as you'll see your elbows bend down as well, it can't be helped so consider it part of the movement. Try it at the end of your bicep workout. It's a great change of pace. Report back please.

    Note: You will hit yourself in the head at least once. If not, you ain't trying....
    Ah, gotcha! So a D ring handle would work since it swivels if you grip the straight part of the bar or perhaps an EZ curl bar as long as the bar can spin as you progress through the curling movement? Almost as if you were going to do a pulldown behind your head, but instead curl it to the back/crown of your head? Or did I completely fumble the ball?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Will try to find something but you're basically sitting like you are going to do a pull down with an underhand grip. You curl it down but as stated your elbows will bend. Basically an overhead cable curl.
    Oh yes got you

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    For those who take NAC daily what mg you taking 600 or 1200mg? Do you split dose it or all at once and what difference did you see in your values if they were high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    For those who take NAC daily what mg you taking 600 or 1200mg? Do you split dose it or all at once and what difference did you see in your values if they were high?
    I take 1200mg every morning. Haven't tested
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    I take 1200mg every morning. Haven't tested
    Thankyou PB

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    I take 1200mg every morning. Haven't tested
    Same here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Will try to find something but you're basically sitting like you are going to do a pull down with an underhand grip. You curl it down but as stated your elbows will bend. Basically an overhead cable curl.
    Would a chin-up activate in the same way Kel?

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    Worked legs today. Zero impact exercises. Slow and controlled. Could hardly walk out of the gym. Meet a Spanish girl at the gym. Meeting another white person in the gym is like finding a unicorn around here so grabbing coffee later to talk about the place we live. All in all a good day in the gym and in life in general!
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Ah, gotcha! So a D ring handle would work since it swivels if you grip the straight part of the bar or perhaps an EZ curl bar as long as the bar can spin as you progress through the curling movement? Almost as if you were going to do a pulldown behind your head, but instead curl it to the back/crown of your head? Or did I completely fumble the ball?
    You got it.

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    Oh yes got you
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    Would a chin-up activate in the same way Kel?
    You'd think so but I'm pretty damn sure I'd remember and it doesn't feel anything like this. Give it a go. I feel the piss outta this little move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    For those who take NAC daily what mg you taking 600 or 1200mg? Do you split dose it or all at once and what difference did you see in your values if they were high?
    1200 but it's been years and years since testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    For those who take NAC daily what mg you taking 600 or 1200mg? Do you split dose it or all at once and what difference did you see in your values if they were high?
    If you're concerned about HDL:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8108311

    Abstract
    Changes in plasma lipid-lipoprotein levels were evaluated in 10 hyperlipidemic patients during treatment with progressive doses (from 1200 mg day-1 to 3600 mg day-1) of N-acetylcysteine (NAC). Plasma total cholesterol and triglyceride levels, as well as those of lipoprotein (a) did not change to an appreciable extent, even with the highest dosage. However, the HDL-cholesterol levels showed a significant, dose-related rise, the mean absolute increase, with the highest NAC dose, being of approximately 10 mg dl-1 (16.2%). The rise of HDL-cholesterol was independent of changes in other lipid-lipoprotein parameters, suggesting a possible direct effect of NAC on the HDL system.

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    **Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I would do one body part per session- 5 sessions per week with 2 rest days. Let us know how you're getting on
    To be clear, do the 3-4 bike sessions on the same days, leaving the rest days totally off?

    And cardio post-weights?

    I am currently doing one body part per day in this fashion:

    Chest
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    Bike and legs
    Shoulders
    Bike
    Arms
    Bike

    So, the only weight day mixed with biking is legs; which is suitable as my leg day is more of a pullback session and the biking is a good warmup for it.

    This means I get 2 days rest from upper body training and weights. But I do the cardio on bike those days. That way I’m not doing too much hon any given day and I spread the stress out over the week to allow recovery time from RT to cardio to RT.

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    Finally a "normal" squat day. Been dealing with a wee niggle in my lower right back that I've been to the chiro for a couple times already. Every time I'd squat I'd either have to stay real light or I'd start to feel an impingement. Like someone starting to dig a knuckle into your back at which time I'd always rack it immediately to prevent it from getting worse.

    Anyway, just ranting a little but it was great to get back to fighting weight for 10 easy reps. I didn't push it for a second set just yet...

    Extensions: 3 working - 15-20
    Squats: 1 heavy 10 reps (couple of the prior sets kinda-sorta count too)
    Verticals: 3 sets 12 ish reps
    Single leg dumbell lunges: 2 sets 20 reps per leg

    Felt great. Feeling it today. Off to hit hams and calves now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Finally a "normal" squat day. Been dealing with a wee niggle in my lower right back that I've been to the chiro for a couple times already. Every time I'd squat I'd either have to stay real light or I'd start to feel an impingement. Like someone starting to dig a knuckle into your back at which time I'd always rack it immediately to prevent it from getting worse.

    Anyway, just ranting a little but it was great to get back to fighting weight for 10 easy reps. I didn't push it for a second set just yet...

    Extensions: 3 working - 15-20
    Squats: 1 heavy 10 reps (couple of the prior sets kinda-sorta count too)
    Verticals: 3 sets 12 ish reps
    Single leg dumbell lunges: 2 sets 20 reps per leg

    Felt great. Feeling it today. Off to hit hams and calves now.
    Nice Kel, very nice

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    Yoga for 75 minutes. Lovely!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Yoga for 75 minutes. Lovely!
    I've been trying to do a few moves with Mrs Marcus but I'm struggling. I am working on flexibility though
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I've been trying to do a few moves with Mrs Marcus

    I'm not the least bit surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    For those who take NAC daily what mg you taking 600 or 1200mg? Do you split dose it or all at once and what difference did you see in your values if they were high?
    I used Halo and Winnie and two weeks after stopping, I had blood tests. Liver was sky high still. I was taking NAC and TUDCA but not consistently during those two weeks. I usually take about 2800 while taking orals.
    I highly recommend adding TUDCA also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    I've been trying to do a few moves with Mrs Marcus but I'm struggling. I am working on flexibility though
    Excellent! My flexibility has diminished in last 2 years. I’m a work in progress too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You'd think so but I'm pretty damn sure I'd remember and it doesn't feel anything like this. Give it a go. I feel the piss outta this little move.
    Is this correct Kel? I used it as a finisher today and with the amount of blood in the muscles, it was hard to contract more than this. My chest is touching the pole so I can not get closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Is this correct Kel? I used it as a finisher today and with the amount of blood in the muscles, it was hard to contract more than this. My chest is touching the pole so I can not get closer.



    Yep! What did you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yep! What did you think?
    Loved it. I see the difference from a chin-up too as this uses the muscle in a different way. With a chin-up, you are more "forward" and this forces the pull more back. Not sure I am explaining it correctly but as a finisher, I thought it was great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Loved it. I see the difference from a chin-up too as this uses the muscle in a different way. With a chin-up, you are more "forward" and this forces the pull more back. Not sure I am explaining it correctly but as a finisher, I thought it was great.
    Well said. It's a great change of pace. Completely different feel.
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    hi fellas/ladies, got back done the night, good session. Wee niggle from the bottom left side of my back from the first exercise. Any way here goes,

    Seated cable rows, 1w TD. (New weight) PB on W

    T bars 2 w 1 drop

    Kneeling pd's 3 sets as the stack uh grip

    Straight arm pd's 2w 1 drop

    Cardio 10 min 2.5 mile

    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    hi fellas/ladies, got back done the night, good session. Wee niggle from the bottom left side of my back from the first exercise. Any way here goes,

    Seated cable rows, 1w TD. (New weight) PB on W

    T bars 2 w 1 drop

    Kneeling pd's 3 sets as the stack uh grip

    Straight arm pd's 2w 1 drop

    Cardio 10 min 2.5 mile

    Done.
    Nice, Clarky, and you must have been a runner before. 2.5 miles in 10 minutes is smoking/shitting and getting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Nice, Clarky, and you must have been a runner before. 2.5 miles in 10 minutes is smoking/shitting and getting it.
    Damn! 2.5 miles = 4km. 4km/10 min = 24km/h. Insane, my knees would collapse lol, that is really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cousinmuscles View Post
    Damn! 2.5 miles = 4km. 4km/10 min = 24km/h. Insane, my knees would collapse lol, that is really good.
    I might could hit that pace briefly, very briefly, but no way could I sustain it. Clarky is definitely motivating me to push things more intensely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    Cardio 10 min 2.5 mile

    Done.

    Downhill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    hi fellas/ladies, got back done the night, good session. Wee niggle from the bottom left side of my back from the first exercise. Any way here goes,

    Seated cable rows, 1w TD. (New weight) PB on W

    T bars 2 w 1 drop

    Kneeling pd's 3 sets as the stack uh grip

    Straight arm pd's 2w 1 drop

    Cardio 10 min 2.5 mile


    Done.
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    Nice, Clarky, and you must have been a runner before. 2.5 miles in 10 minutes is smoking/shitting and getting it.
    Clarky, since I'm a ginger is there a certain type of speed kilt that will help my running?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Downhill?
    It would have to be for me. That's the only way I could get up that kind of velocity.....downhill rolling.
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    Shoulders and tri's today!

    Smith front press: 3 sets 6-8 reps
    Laterals: 3 sets 10-12 reps (these are always done strict and from the side of the thighs, no swinging)
    Dumbell press: 3 sets 10-12 reps
    Rear laterals: 3 sets 12-15 reps done on incline bench

    Pushdowns: 3 sets 10 ish reps
    Skull crushers with low cable: 3 sets 10-12 ish
    Cable dips (basically pushdowns behind the back) 3 sets 10-15 reps

    Good day.
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    Good CrossFit training today. Got an impromptu competition tomorrow. I'll be the oldest by a measure of 20-years, easily, so that should be fun. Not going to let them get away easy though and will do my absolute best to keep up.

    Today's training

    Clean and Jerk Complex
    On the 2:00 x 7:
    Hang Power Clean
    Hang Squat Clean
    Push Jerk
    Split Jerk
    Worked up to 80kg

    Deadlift
    On the Minute x 8
    2 Repetitions - worked up to 170kg

    “Go Fish”
    For Time:
    1,000 Meter Row
    Directly into…
    3 Rounds:
    21 Deadlifts - 62kg
    15 Barbell-Facing Burpees
    9 Push Jerks - 62kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronClydes View Post
    To be clear, do the 3-4 bike sessions on the same days, leaving the rest days totally off?

    And cardio post-weights?

    I am currently doing one body part per day in this fashion:

    Chest
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    Bike and legs
    Shoulders
    Bike
    Arms
    Bike

    So, the only weight day mixed with biking is legs; which is suitable as my leg day is more of a pullback session and the biking is a good warmup for it.

    This means I get 2 days rest from upper body training and weights. But I do the cardio on bike those days. That way I’m not doing too much hon any given day and I spread the stress out over the week to allow recovery time from RT to cardio to RT.

    Thanks!


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    Sounds like a plan and all you can do is try it and see, report some of your training sessions here and lets us know how you coping every week. You may need to adjust things but let's see how it develops

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