Atomini's NOOPEPT log!!!

[Brick]

It looks like there's a whole new breed of Racetams that have been, and are currently being developed called Ampakines. Aniracetam and Pariracetam exhibit ampkanine effects, but drugs specific to this mechanism of action are being developed, and one, CX717 is being heavily studied by the military for it's reported ability to enhance combat readiness in soldiers. Ampakines work by strongly interacting with glutamatergic AMPA receptors on the neurones, dramatically increasing attention span, alertness, and facilitating new learning and memory. I find this category of recetams, and CX717 interesting in particular because despite much of the research on this drug is based on treating Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, Schizophrenia, and ADHD; the majority of funding for clinical trials and testing comes from DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency). From what I can find it seems as though the only problem with CX717 and to an even greater extent with prior Ampakines is the very low oral bioavalability. The absolute newest Ampakine is CX1739, produced by the same company as CX717, Cortex Pharmaceuticals. It is currently is phase 2 of clinical trials to treat ADHD, Alzheimers, and respiratory depression, as testing has shown that CX1739 has a profound effect on O2 saturation. These drugs look pretty interesting, and may be the next wave of Racetams.

Soldiers, attention span, alertness, O2 saturation. UFC super soldiers?

[Zodiac82]

Now is the real test and see if it will fix my early onset of Alzheimer and Dementia.

hope so man

[Bigshotvictoria]

Soldiers, attention span, alertness, O2 saturation. UFC super soldiers?

The first thing I thought of reading all this stuff was universal soldier!!!!

[jasc]

Breaking News:

Log started by Med Student on steroid forum doubles NOOPEPT sales worldwide.

[RaginCajun]

Breaking News:

Log started by Med Student on steroid forum doubles NOOPEPT sales worldwide.

hahaha, that's what i was thinking

[Atomini]

I'll b buying 10 grams every 2 weeks till this...hope there's no expiration date lol

I have not been able to gather any data on exipration dates or shelf life. I would google and find out what the original Russian Noopept product says its expiry dates are (I tried and I can't find much). If you can find it, you could go off that. Vacuum sealing is an awesome idea too as lovbyts mentioned to me he was going to look into doing in order to store all of the surplus powder for long term.

I just bought another 10 grams and I am going to leave any further purcahses that I have yet to open sealed in their packaging.

This sounds pretty awesome Atomini. I might invest in some of this, its not too badly priced from a UK source. It seems to go a really long way too at such small doses. I havent found anything about high doses though, what sort of effect would you think it would have by increasing from 10-30mg up to like 50-60mg? Just curious, as an Electronic Engineering student, I like things that work within limits, but I am much more interested in what happens outside those limits!

Is it difficult to measure out the doses from bulk powder? I might buy a capping kit and just make up a ton of pills.

-Krugerr

Well, i've been dosing it at 60mg daily (30mg twice per day) and that's probably why i've been seeing pronounced effects compared to those who do smaller doses. I am going to start doing an extra 30mg per day on top of what i'm doing for a total of 90mg, see how that goes. But I am VERY HAPPY with what i've been seeing so far at the dose i'm using.

As far as measurement goes, get yourself a microscale that measures in mg. That's how I do mine. Most of the time I just down it with water. IF I am on the run, I may cap it or just put the powder in a little portable container.

hey guys just be aware of diminishing returns, everything may seem great at first but the effects will start to slow down, so dont be dissappointed when the effects do start to slow down , its bound to level off at some point

This is absolutely not the case with Noopept. Look up its mechanism of action. Its effects should only INCREASE as time pushes forward.

I also had a nice chat with someone I know who is a neurology graduate and I told him about this last night. He had never heard of it but he gave me his insight into how Noopept works and its effects and abilities. He said that there COULD potentially be some UNKNOWN effect of the increased brain cell growth that is yet to be determined as positive or negative. He would be able to explain this far better than I can, since this is his area of expertise, but he told me that increased brain plasticity from the growth of new brain cells and neurons is a good thing, but it may come to a point where so many brain cells are being created that in long term use it may be possible that certain brain cells in certain areas of the brain may grow to the extent that it starts overlapping other areas of the brain. Like I said, not necessarily a bad thing, but we don't know if this is yet a good thing either. He said the symptoms common of these types of cases are situations in which individuals can actually taste words as they read them. I forgot the name for such a condition.

Anyhow, the idea here is as with everything, dilligent and responsible use, right?

He also told me something incredible I didn't know, like the fact that the two protein expressions that Noopept potentiates (the two very important proteins, nerve growth factor (NGF) and brain-derived neurotrophic factor (BDNF)) are both proteins that are actually vital (and I mean REALLY vital) to the development of brain health and function when you are young. He said that at the age of about 7 or 8, these two proteins STOP operating COMPLETELY. He then proceeded to mention how Noopept's ability to exhibit greater expression of these proteins is an incredible thing, because basically you are now enabling your brain to grow and learn more now after an age when these proteins do not operate any longer due to that barrier or 'lock' created after the age of 7-8.

You know how people commonly say learning gets harder as you get older and that its best to learn as much as you can when you're young? Well, this is one of the HUGE reasons as to why. And the use of Noopept basically completely blows through that barrier and resumes the functions of those proteins that would otherwise be halted after ages 7-8.

I was doing some research on it, read a study where they said "Chronic treatment with Noopept was not followed by the development of tolerance, but even potentiated the neurotrophic effect"

This is looking more and more like some kind of wonderdrug. I just can't stop asking myself why they don't run further studies on drugs like this... The potential it may have to help people with traumatic brain injuries, Alzheimers, and Parkinsons is awesome.

Excellent post. Enough said!

[krugerr]

Good post, Atomini. I think i'll be putting in an order once payday comes around. I have a lot of big projects upcoming and I'm really behind on my programming!

Just a thought, have you tried learning another language Buddy? I think I might try putting in an hour a day on a language. Ive tried to learn german a few times before, so I'll be able to gauge if im doing better than normal! :P

-Krugerr

[Atomini]

Good post, Atomini. I think i'll be putting in an order once payday comes around. I have a lot of big projects upcoming and I'm really behind on my programming!

Just a thought, have you tried learning another language Buddy? I think I might try putting in an hour a day on a language. Ive tried to learn german a few times before, so I'll be able to gauge if im doing better than normal! :P

-Krugerr

No I have not, but the interesting thing is that I used to be able to speak the following languages (in addition to English, of course):

- Italian
- Russian
- Hebrew
- French

I can still read Russian and Hebrew but I won't know anything it says. If someone speaks to me in Italian, I can understand most of what they're saying but I can't speak it. Same thing with French. I lost everything though because when I was young I had nobody to speak these languages to, and when you don't use it you lose it, right? Well, i'm sure if I started brushing up on them that i'd be able to pick everything back up within a month or two of regular speaking and studying of the languages. With Noopept, it should come back even faster.

I'd like to learn German though.

But this is a good idea. Let us know if you do end up learning a new language better than usual while on Noopept.

[Edwin23q]

Anyone else want to add their experiences to this thread?

Night be a good idea to add a new section for this and similar types of products as it seems interest is quickly growing on this.

Maybe call it Brain AAS? Lol

But then again this product falls under peps doesn't it?

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[Brick]

Anyone else want to add their experiences to this thread?

Night be a good idea to add a new section for this and similar types of products as it seems interest is quickly growing on this.

Maybe call it Brain AAS? Lol

But then again this product falls under peps doesn't it?

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I will be starting my own once it shows up!

[Atomini]

It falls under peptides but specifically it is a Nootropic (the proper term for cognitive performance enhancing drugs instead of 'brain AAS' lol).

And I honestly think that I have probably just caused the Nootropic market to gain tens of thousands of dollars in a matter of days through my creation of this thread lol.

[Zodiac82]

It falls under peptides but specifically it is a Nootropic (the proper term for cognitive performance enhancing drugs instead of 'brain AAS' lol).

And I honestly think that I have probably just caused the Nootropic market to gain tens of thousands of dollars in a matter of days through my creation of this thread lol.

does it have to be refrigerated since its a peptide

[Atomini]

does it have to be refrigerated since its a peptide

No it does not. It's a peptide all of about 2 amino acids long. This means it is not complex enough to undergo denaturing, destruction, or warping of its form from heat, physical abuse, or stomach acids.

[Edwin23q]

No it does not. It's a peptide all of about 2 amino acids long. This means it is not complex enough to undergo denaturing, destruction, or warping of its form from heat, physical abuse, or stomach acids.

Mate just be honest, you just bought a million buks worth of the company shares, put up this thread and your now walking away with 10 million bucks. Lol
Nah in all honesty, thanks for this thread, I didn't even know this pep even existed let alone a real user experience.

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[Atomini]

I was just going to say, I probably own well over 3 quarters of the stocks for this product lol. I should check NASDAQ.

[bcaasdirty]

atomini,

hows noopept benefitted you from a workout standpoint? Id be curious as to how it affected the mind/muscle connection and focus levels during your training session.

Thanks bro!

[Atomini]

atomini,

hows noopept benefitted you from a workout standpoint? Id be curious as to how it affected the mind/muscle connection and focus levels during your training session.

Thanks bro!

bcaasdirty,

Go back to page 3 of this thread, and go to post #111, it's a log update. Read that post, and the following ones I made (I made several posts on my findings). You'll see everything right there. Before you go read those, for now i'll say yes it absolutely IS a performance enhancing drug for physical performance as well. Just go take a look at my findings and speculations.

[Edwin23q]

bcaasdirty,

Go back to page 3 of this thread, and go to post #111, it's a log update. Read that post, and the following ones I made (I made several posts on my findings). You'll see everything right there. Before you go read those, for now i'll say yes it absolutely IS a performance enhancing drug for physical performance as well. Just go take a look at my findings and speculations.

Mate are you still on it? How long has it been now? Still getting the good feelings? Has it tapered off or still at a good level?
Should I start on 30mg from day 1?

Thx

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[Atomini]

Yeah i'm still on it, still feeling all the effects that have been consistently building too. I started at 30mg twice a day for a total of 60mg/day. I am going to up it soon to 90mg/day but I will wait until after my choline arrives for that, I want to see how much better the Choline makes the Noopept work.

You really don't need all that high of a dose either. I've seen on other forums where people are just doing 10mg/day or 20mg/day. I started at over 30mg, so that's me.

[Edwin23q]

Yeah i'm still on it, still feeling all the effects that have been consistently building too. I started at 30mg twice a day for a total of 60mg/day. I am going to up it soon to 90mg/day but I will wait until after my choline arrives for that, I want to see how much better the Choline makes the Noopept work.

You really don't need all that high of a dose either. I've seen on other forums where people are just doing 10mg/day or 20mg/day. I started at over 30mg, so that's me.

Cool. Thanks. I think I'll start at 20 and take it from there.

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[Brick]

Yeah i'm still on it, still feeling all the effects that have been consistently building too. I started at 30mg twice a day for a total of 60mg/day. I am going to up it soon to 90mg/day but I will wait until after my choline arrives for that, I want to see how much better the Choline makes the Noopept work.

You really don't need all that high of a dose either. I've seen on other forums where people are just doing 10mg/day or 20mg/day. I started at over 30mg, so that's me.

From your other readings have you found a compounding effect happens to a point of over saturation (mega-dose).

Sort of like two beer your buzzing (20mg). Six beer you're doing great (60mg) but 20 beer you pass out (mega dose)

[boz]

No I have not, but the interesting thing is that I used to be able to speak the following languages (in addition to English, of course):

- Italian
- Russian
- Hebrew
- French

I can still read Russian and Hebrew but I won't know anything it says. If someone speaks to me in Italian, I can understand most of what they're saying but I can't speak it. Same thing with French. I lost everything though because when I was young I had nobody to speak these languages to, and when you don't use it you lose it, right? Well, i'm sure if I started brushing up on them that i'd be able to pick everything back up within a month or two of regular speaking and studying of the languages. With Noopept, it should come back even faster.

I'd like to learn German though.

But this is a good idea. Let us know if you do end up learning a new language better than usual while on Noopept.

Thats a very broad question, i hope this doesnt apply to certain parts on our body

[Atomini]

From your other readings have you found a compounding effect happens to a point of over saturation (mega-dose).

Sort of like two beer your buzzing (20mg). Six beer you're doing great (60mg) but 20 beer you pass out (mega dose)

I haven't found this to be the case, honestly. I don't think i've been on long enough and I don't think I have played around with different doses enough to find this out. We'll see when/if I try to increase to 90mg/day.

Thats a very broad question, i hope this doesnt apply to certain parts on our body

Well, you can be the first to try it out and let us know! LOL

[lovbyts]

From your other readings have you found a compounding effect happens to a point of over saturation (mega-dose).

Sort of like two beer your buzzing (20mg). Six beer you're doing great (60mg) but 20 beer you pass out (mega dose)

I haven't found this to be the case, honestly. I don't think i've been on long enough and I don't think I have played around with different doses enough to find this out. We'll see when/if I try to increase to 90mg/day.

GREAT!!! So you are going to be like one of those guys in the movies on SciFi who keep taking more and more until they grow a 3rd eye in the back of their head or turn into a Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde?

[Zodiac82]

I was just going to say, I probably own well over 3 quarters of the stocks for this product lol. I should check NASDAQ.

I was just thinkn that this mornin....that u mighta purchased stock....smart man lol

[bcaasdirty]

bcaasdirty,

Go back to page 3 of this thread, and go to post #111, it's a log update. Read that post, and the following ones I made (I made several posts on my findings). You'll see everything right there. Before you go read those, for now i'll say yes it absolutely IS a performance enhancing drug for physical performance as well. Just go take a look at my findings and speculations.

good stuff, thanks

[Misery13]

Breaking News:

Log started by Med Student on steroid forum doubles NOOPEPT sales worldwide.

Balls! He got me. I ordered 2 bottles yesterday.

[krugerr]

The more I read, the more I want some!!

[Bigshotvictoria]

I ordered some Aniracetam to stack on too....

[Atomini]

Alright, so I decided in the little bit of free time I had today to jump onto the official Russian Noopept website and do some reading. I had to use an online translator, so please forgive me if some of the wording and grammar came out a little messed up. But check this out, right from the official site:

Therapeutic effect Noopepta evident with 5-7 days of treatment, in the form of protivotrevozhnogo and tonic effects. At 7-14 days of therapy, there vegetonormalizuyuschee effect, normalization of sleep. From 14-20 days of therapy revealed a positive effect on cognitive function of the drug, the parameters of attention and memory.

For its effectiveness Noopept ® exceeds that of Piracetam found in clinical studies, patients with vascular cognitive disorders and posttraumatic genesis. According to clinical studies, the risk of side effects while taking Noopepta almost twice lower than at admission Piracetam, suggesting the safety of the drug.

® Noopept not cumulative in the body, does not cause drug dependence. With the lifting of the drug is not the abolition of the syndrome.

Noopept ® does not have an injury to internal organs, does not lead to changes in haematological and biochemical parameters, no immunotoksicheskim, teratogenic effects, showed no mutagenic properties.

Noopept ® released in pharmacies without a prescription.

The first outlined part bolded in red should give everyone here a good idea as to when to expect its different effects to 'kick in'. I can without a doubt say that I have experienced 100% exactly how the effects and the time periods in which to experience them are described. The effects only seem to get better and better as time progresses forward. At this point by tomorrow, it will be 7 full days since starting Noopept. A whole week. This means according to the information above, the cognitive enhancement effects should only continue to INCREASE following the first 7 day period.

Can't wait to see what happens as time presses on. Especially once I receive my Choline Bitartrate and start adding that in. I am going to wait to start the Choline before I decide to increase my Noopept dose by another 30mg.

[Atomini]

Also,

Pharmacological Effects
Noopept ® is nootropnym drug with nootropnym and neuroprotective properties. Improves learning ability, memory, working on all phases of processing: the primary information processing, consolidation, retrieval. Prevents the development of amnesia caused by electroshock, a blockade of central cholinergic structures glyutamatergicheskih receptor systems ironic phase of sleep deprivation.

Well, that explains the improvement in sleep and wakefulness upon awaking in the morning. And,

Can Noopept if I have meteopatiya?
You can use Noopept to improve memory, reduce anxiety, improve sleep and normalize the body’s resilience to external factors that can reduce the manifestations meteopatii and better portability meteorological changes your body.

Well, it's sleep improvement effects are a definite fact. I am not the only one who has experienced it since starting it anyhow, the internet is littered with Noopept user logs exhibiting the same things.

[Brick]

Been thinking. As this peptide shows memory increase, anxiety decreases etc. but with this the effects don't disappear when you stop taking it.

As most of us know the old phrase 'a pill for every ill' and also that the health industry doesn't make money off healthy people or dead people, just off the sick and barely alive and nearly dead.

Thinking of these facts do you feel that noopept might be cause for alarm for the health industries wallets as it 'cures' to many ailments and you don't need to continue use to feel its effects. Can you see some sort of ban or regulation on it?

[Atomini]

Been thinking. As this peptide shows memory increase, anxiety decreases etc. but with this the effects don't disappear when you stop taking it.

As most of us know the old phrase 'a pill for every ill' and also that the health industry doesn't make money off healthy people or dead people, just off the sick and barely alive and nearly dead.

Thinking of these facts do you feel that noopept might be cause for alarm for the health industries wallets as it 'cures' to many ailments and you don't need to continue use to feel its effects. Can you see some sort of ban or regulation on it?

Yes, absolutely if enough word gets around about it. I had debated whether or not to post this log up here at first, too. That was because i'm actually worried that if too much news gets around about this and Noopept becomes very popular, I think the FDA and the government will attack it fiercely. BUT I think that this is a drug developed in Russia, it may be more difficult to do. It's different with drugs pioneered in the West. In Russia you can buy this stuff OTC. So I would say to everyone here not to advertise about it too much for that reason.

[Edwin23q]

Yes, absolutely if enough word gets around about it. I had debated whether or not to post this log up here at first, too. That was because i'm actually worried that if too much news gets around about this and Noopept becomes very popular, I think the FDA and the government will attack it fiercely. BUT I think that this is a drug developed in Russia, it may be more difficult to do. It's different with drugs pioneered in the West. In Russia you can buy this stuff OTC. So I would say to everyone here not to advertise about it too much for that reason.

Just popped 10mg, 30 mins and nothing, might pop another 10mg now.

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[Brick]

Just popped 10mg, 30 mins and nothing, might pop another 10mg now.

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Keep us updated

[Edwin23q]

Keep us updated

Been on 20mg and still nothing, another 10mg's?

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[Edwin23q]

This is it.
I'm now on 30mg's , 3 capsules.
I'll post back in 30 min.
Planning to take 30mgs in the morning as soon as I wake up which is 10 hours away.

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[Brick]

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This is it.
I'm now on 30mg's , 3 capsules.
I'll post back in 30 min.
Planning to take 30mgs in the morning as soon as I wake up which is 10 hours away.

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Maybe under dosed?

[Edwin23q]

Maybe under dosed?

Not sure, 50 minutes now on 30mgs and still nothing at all.

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[Edwin23q]

Not sure, 50 minutes now on 30mgs and still nothing at all.

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Ok it's now 3 hours since the 10mg dosage, 2 hours since my 20mg and 1 hour since I upped it to 30mg.
I'm feeling a little spaced out, not sure on how to describe it but its like my wife is talking to me but not to me?? Wow that doesn't even make sense, lol
Umm strange but so so peaceful, colorful, and I'm feeling free off stress or pressure.
Ok I have to cook my protein foods for tomorrow, will report back in an hour.

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