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12-21-2017, 06:45 PM #561
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12-21-2017, 10:14 PM #562
I have an idea. For the competition, Let's make all of the old men take winny and see if their joints can handle it. LOL
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would be extremely interesting if everyone took the exact same cycle.
of course that would not be ideal, everyones goal and body is different , but interesting . I've helped lay out one competitors cycle for the 12 weeks, but totally based on current body type and goals moving forward.
but would be pretty cool to see 12 guys, 40+ years old, all run the exact same cycle for 12 weeks and then see what results come about
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12-21-2017, 10:39 PM #564
GH is a genius! All these old men taking the same cycle and then it could be used as a scientific study. We all complain that there aren't enough studies to arrive at conclusions..... And then an interview 5 years later to see where they are and if they can still walk. LOL
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12-22-2017, 07:05 AM #567
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12-22-2017, 07:10 AM #568
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12-22-2017, 07:15 AM #569
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12-22-2017, 07:20 AM #570
I like running my tren / test 3:1 actually closer to 4:1. Unless you get sub 10 bf save the mast. It’s a finishing agent. Anything above 10% it’s ineffective. In my experience.
Great arm workout this morning. But damn my elbows are killing me.
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12-22-2017, 07:22 AM #571
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12-22-2017, 07:49 AM #574BANNED
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Mast has a strong affinity to shbg and will therefore make almost any cycle better (its a synergistic compound that makes other compounds work better). also has some slight anti e properties and a drying out effect (probably why you feel you lean out on it).
I throw it in in most the cycles I do at one point or another , 500-800mg
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12-22-2017, 08:02 AM #575BANNED
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if your main goal is fat burning then I'd just go with HGH-Frag .
as for the GHRH/GHRPs they do help. I use them on top of exogenous HGH to amplify blood serum levels of HGH. essentially makes my HGH dose higher but with the same iu.
use the GHRP to get a pulse of growth hormone which will elevate your natty blood levels of HGH. then after this pulse inject your exogenous HGH on top of that and you have a much higher amount of HGH (without having to inject a ton of HGH).
the GHRPs are fairly cheap . its a way of making your 4iu dosing of HGH into more like 6iu yet at a fraction of the cost.
Also MK-677, growth hormone secretagogue, is pretty effective. it provides multiple pulses throughout the day. it feels very similar to being on a micro dosing protocol of HGH. I get the same exact side effects from that as I do HGH. carpal tunnel, lethargy, slight rise in BP, and elevated blood sugars.
keep in mind the purest and most potent form of HGH is what your body produces naturally (Huge benefit of GHRH). any exogenous HGH we inject, even the best Pharma grade stuff, can be much less effective even to the point that some unlucky people have immune systems that attack and destroy the exogenous HGH they take.
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12-22-2017, 08:09 AM #576
Me and my wife have been taking frag for about four months now. Hard to say with me, because of all the other crap I take, but she's been slowly losing fat
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12-22-2017, 09:20 AM #577
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12-22-2017, 09:40 AM #578
Just left doc, they seem to think the nerve ablation procedure will work for me. Hope they right, it's a outpatient procedure where they will more or less burn the nerves in my facet joints. Will get this on jan 5th
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12-22-2017, 09:55 AM #579
I agree Tarzan. I did a very unorthodox cycle of deca with mast. It did what I wanted it to however I previously would have said that it was a waste of time.
I also start my cut cycles in double digit body fat. Ultimately I end up in single digits.
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12-22-2017, 10:00 AM #580
Since we have a star studded judging panel, I think that they should provide a pose at the beginning of the competition.
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12-22-2017, 10:46 AM #583
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12-22-2017, 10:50 AM #585
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12-22-2017, 10:52 AM #586
I that's not the same, I'm sure I can get the report
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12-22-2017, 10:56 AM #587
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12-22-2017, 11:01 AM #588
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12-22-2017, 11:02 AM #589
Damn you was ripped
Did you take mast with tren ?
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12-22-2017, 11:10 AM #591BANNED
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for fat loss I like doing 500mcg of HGH-Frag 30 mins before fasted cardio.
for overall HGH secretion and to keep naturally high levels of blood serum levels of GH throughout the day I like MK-677. Its long acting and will promote several pulses of GH , whereas the GHRPs are short acting. I dose 15mg in the morning and 15mg at night (this will give me 24 hours of the drug working, so all day all night). I've never gotten blood work done when taking MK to see how high my levels actually get , but I've taken enough HGH over the years to know exactly how elevated GH levels make me feel, and I can say MK definitely does the job.
IF you run MK be sure to monitor your blood sugar levels. with constantly elevated HGH you may find yourself running high blood sugar. If that ends up being the case you can adjust your diet, take a natural GDA, or use Metformin (I personally use insulin )
the cheapest option is GHRP-2. inject it on an empty stomach and you'll get a natty pulse of GH. do this 3-4 x per day. its more of a hassle then MK though . I use it only 1-2x per day pre HGH injection to amplify blood levels and get by only using 4iu of HGH instead of 6-8. so I dose it , then about 45 mins later when my blood serum levels of GH should be elevated, I take exogenous HGH on top of it to amplify blood levels even farther.
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12-22-2017, 11:49 AM #592
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