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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I thought the same thing.
    Don’t give that advice to Tarzan. With all of the test, he would go over and start talking like a dad and “mr Mojo” would start rising. LOL


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    I have an idea. For the competition, Let's make all of the old men take winny and see if their joints can handle it. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I have an idea. For the competition, Let's make all of the old men take winny and see if their joints can handle it. LOL
    would be extremely interesting if everyone took the exact same cycle.

    of course that would not be ideal, everyones goal and body is different , but interesting . I've helped lay out one competitors cycle for the 12 weeks, but totally based on current body type and goals moving forward.
    but would be pretty cool to see 12 guys, 40+ years old, all run the exact same cycle for 12 weeks and then see what results come about

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    would be extremely interesting if everyone took the exact same cycle.

    of course that would not be ideal, everyones goal and body is different , but interesting . I've helped lay out one competitors cycle for the 12 weeks, but totally based on current body type and goals moving forward.
    but would be pretty cool to see 12 guys, 40+ years old, all run the exact same cycle for 12 weeks and then see what results come about
    GH is a genius! All these old men taking the same cycle and then it could be used as a scientific study. We all complain that there aren't enough studies to arrive at conclusions..... And then an interview 5 years later to see where they are and if they can still walk. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    MGF is Mechano Growth Factor - it is a spliced variant of IGF (insulin like growth factor). both of which are naturally occurring in the body. the body uses MGF to repair and build muscle tissue, but more specifically for satellite cell proliferation (so MGF is an extremely anabolic variant of IGF).

    GHRP - Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide - its an amino acid based peptide (just like growth hormone itself is) that works on the pituitary gland to promote release of growth hormone . I use it to sustain higher growth hormone levels and then running actual HGH on top of it to amplify my blood serum levels of GH (also to keep my pituarity releasing gh while on exogenous gh)
    Is the GHRH worth taking? I want to up my GH for fat burning purposes but don’t have funds to run it until My work gets up and going and paying out descent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Back not doing good today, guess the squats yesterday was a bad idea. Go back to the doctor tomorrow to see if they gonna do the nerve ablation
    What did they find out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    What did they find out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    would be extremely interesting if everyone took the exact same cycle.

    of course that would not be ideal, everyones goal and body is different , but interesting . I've helped lay out one competitors cycle for the 12 weeks, but totally based on current body type and goals moving forward.
    but would be pretty cool to see 12 guys, 40+ years old, all run the exact same cycle for 12 weeks and then see what results come about
    As long as it involved tren I would participate. I planing to run tren, 400-600 mg a week depending on sides, and 600 mg masteron . Will probably add winstrol the last 8 weeks, and test of course

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    This is what the laser spine institute said after reviewing my MRI

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    As long as it involved tren I would participate. I planing to run tren, 400-600 mg a week depending on sides, and 600 mg masteron. Will probably add winstrol the last 8 weeks, and test of course
    I like running my tren / test 3:1 actually closer to 4:1. Unless you get sub 10 bf save the mast. It’s a finishing agent. Anything above 10% it’s ineffective. In my experience.

    Great arm workout this morning. But damn my elbows are killing me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    This is what the laser spine institute said after reviewing my MRI

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    Not an expert but that sounds painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I like running my tren / test 3:1 actually closer to 4:1. Unless you get sub 10 bf save the mast. It’s a finishing agent. Anything above 10% it’s ineffective. In my experience.

    Great arm workout this morning. But damn my elbows are killing me.
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    Everyone says that bout mast, but it seems to help me lean up. May just be a mind thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Everyone says that bout mast, but it seems to help me lean up. May just be a mind thing
    Interesting. If it works for you use the hell out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Everyone says that bout mast, but it seems to help me lean up. May just be a mind thing
    Mast has a strong affinity to shbg and will therefore make almost any cycle better (its a synergistic compound that makes other compounds work better). also has some slight anti e properties and a drying out effect (probably why you feel you lean out on it).
    I throw it in in most the cycles I do at one point or another , 500-800mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Is the GHRH worth taking? I want to up my GH for fat burning purposes but don’t have funds to run it until My work gets up and going and paying out descent.
    if your main goal is fat burning then I'd just go with HGH-Frag .

    as for the GHRH/GHRPs they do help. I use them on top of exogenous HGH to amplify blood serum levels of HGH. essentially makes my HGH dose higher but with the same iu.
    use the GHRP to get a pulse of growth hormone which will elevate your natty blood levels of HGH. then after this pulse inject your exogenous HGH on top of that and you have a much higher amount of HGH (without having to inject a ton of HGH).
    the GHRPs are fairly cheap . its a way of making your 4iu dosing of HGH into more like 6iu yet at a fraction of the cost.

    Also MK-677, growth hormone secretagogue, is pretty effective. it provides multiple pulses throughout the day. it feels very similar to being on a micro dosing protocol of HGH. I get the same exact side effects from that as I do HGH. carpal tunnel, lethargy, slight rise in BP, and elevated blood sugars.

    keep in mind the purest and most potent form of HGH is what your body produces naturally (Huge benefit of GHRH). any exogenous HGH we inject, even the best Pharma grade stuff, can be much less effective even to the point that some unlucky people have immune systems that attack and destroy the exogenous HGH they take.
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    Me and my wife have been taking frag for about four months now. Hard to say with me, because of all the other crap I take, but she's been slowly losing fat

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    would be extremely interesting if everyone took the exact same cycle.

    of course that would not be ideal, everyones goal and body is different , but interesting . I've helped lay out one competitors cycle for the 12 weeks, but totally based on current body type and goals moving forward.
    but would be pretty cool to see 12 guys, 40+ years old, all run the exact same cycle for 12 weeks and then see what results come about
    WTF! Your guys are going to be running cycles for this comp? I thought everyone was going to be natural like me.
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    Just left doc, they seem to think the nerve ablation procedure will work for me. Hope they right, it's a outpatient procedure where they will more or less burn the nerves in my facet joints. Will get this on jan 5th
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Everyone says that bout mast, but it seems to help me lean up. May just be a mind thing
    I agree Tarzan. I did a very unorthodox cycle of deca with mast. It did what I wanted it to however I previously would have said that it was a waste of time.
    I also start my cut cycles in double digit body fat. Ultimately I end up in single digits.


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    Since we have a star studded judging panel, I think that they should provide a pose at the beginning of the competition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    if your main goal is fat burning then I'd just go with HGH-Frag .

    as for the GHRH/GHRPs they do help. I use them on top of exogenous HGH to amplify blood serum levels of HGH. essentially makes my HGH dose higher but with the same iu.
    use the GHRP to get a pulse of growth hormone which will elevate your natty blood levels of HGH. then after this pulse inject your exogenous HGH on top of that and you have a much higher amount of HGH (without having to inject a ton of HGH).
    the GHRPs are fairly cheap . its a way of making your 4iu dosing of HGH into more like 6iu yet at a fraction of the cost.

    Also MK-677, growth hormone secretagogue, is pretty effective. it provides multiple pulses throughout the day. it feels very similar to being on a micro dosing protocol of HGH. I get the same exact side effects from that as I do HGH. carpal tunnel, lethargy, slight rise in BP, and elevated blood sugars.

    keep in mind the purest and most potent form of HGH is what your body produces naturally (Huge benefit of GHRH). any exogenous HGH we inject, even the best Pharma grade stuff, can be much less effective even to the point that some unlucky people have immune systems that attack and destroy the exogenous HGH they take.
    So you would say that MK-677 is what I would benefit most from? I know next to nothing about any of the peptides and fragments out Now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I agree Tarzan. I did a very unorthodox cycle of deca with mast. It did what I wanted it to however I previously would have said that it was a waste of time.
    I also start my cut cycles in double digit body fat. Ultimately I end up in single digits.


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    I’ve run mast 3 times. 2 times I was over 10% it did nothing for me. 1 time I was below 10%. I think I hit 6-7 %
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I’ve run mast 3 times. 2 times I was over 10% it did nothing for me. 1 time I was below 10%. I think I hit 6-7 %
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    Still compete?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Do you have the MRI report?
    I have the MRI on a disk

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    I that's not the same, I'm sure I can get the report

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Still compete?


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    No. It’s like having a full time. I wasn’t married or had a kid back then. It wouldn’t be fair to them. And the lack of sleep and hunger those last 2-3 weeks make me very iratable.

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    Sporting my X-ray shorts...lol
    The nurses think I'm crazy as hell, especially when they ask if I'm taking any meds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    I’ve run mast 3 times. 2 times I was over 10% it did nothing for me. 1 time I was below 10%. I think I hit 6-7 %
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    Damn you was ripped
    Did you take mast with tren ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Damn you was ripped
    Did you take mast with tren?
    Test tren mast winny t3 clen

    I was back loading about 8-9 slin pins a day the last week. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    So you would say that MK-677 is what I would benefit most from? I know next to nothing about any of the peptides and fragments out Now.
    for fat loss I like doing 500mcg of HGH-Frag 30 mins before fasted cardio.

    for overall HGH secretion and to keep naturally high levels of blood serum levels of GH throughout the day I like MK-677. Its long acting and will promote several pulses of GH , whereas the GHRPs are short acting. I dose 15mg in the morning and 15mg at night (this will give me 24 hours of the drug working, so all day all night). I've never gotten blood work done when taking MK to see how high my levels actually get , but I've taken enough HGH over the years to know exactly how elevated GH levels make me feel, and I can say MK definitely does the job.

    IF you run MK be sure to monitor your blood sugar levels. with constantly elevated HGH you may find yourself running high blood sugar. If that ends up being the case you can adjust your diet, take a natural GDA, or use Metformin (I personally use insulin )


    the cheapest option is GHRP-2. inject it on an empty stomach and you'll get a natty pulse of GH. do this 3-4 x per day. its more of a hassle then MK though . I use it only 1-2x per day pre HGH injection to amplify blood levels and get by only using 4iu of HGH instead of 6-8. so I dose it , then about 45 mins later when my blood serum levels of GH should be elevated, I take exogenous HGH on top of it to amplify blood levels even farther.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Test tren mast winny t3 clen

    I was back loading about 8-9 slin pins a day the last week. Lol
    You didn’t have water retention from the slin?


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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    I that's not the same, I'm sure I can get the report
    Sometimes they actually put the radiology report on the MRI disk itself. The Rad report is written up by a radiologist based on what he sees in the MRI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    for fat loss I like doing 500mcg of HGH-Frag 30 mins before fasted cardio.

    for overall HGH secretion and to keep naturally high levels of blood serum levels of GH throughout the day I like MK-677. Its long acting and will promote several pulses of GH , whereas the GHRPs are short acting. I dose 15mg in the morning and 15mg at night (this will give me 24 hours of the drug working, so all day all night). I've never gotten blood work done when taking MK to see how high my levels actually get , but I've taken enough HGH over the years to know exactly how elevated GH levels make me feel, and I can say MK definitely does the job.

    IF you run MK be sure to monitor your blood sugar levels. with constantly elevated HGH you may find yourself running high blood sugar. If that ends up being the case you can adjust your diet, take a natural GDA, or use Metformin (I personally use insulin )


    the cheapest option is GHRP-2. inject it on an empty stomach and you'll get a natty pulse of GH. do this 3-4 x per day. its more of a hassle then MK though . I use it only 1-2x per day pre HGH injection to amplify blood levels and get by only using 4iu of HGH instead of 6-8. so I dose it , then about 45 mins later when my blood serum levels of GH should be elevated, I take exogenous HGH on top of it to amplify blood levels even farther.
    Dang, you have quite the regime. ThAnks for all that info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel101 View Post
    WTF! Your guys are going to be running cycles for this comp? I thought everyone was going to be natural like me.
    Yeah, this is a natty comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Dang, you have quite the regime. ThAnks for all that info?
    I am beginning to believe that GH is not a real person and is actually just a computer. LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
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    Wasn’t using slin. I was putting everything in slin pins so there wouldn’t be any knots at the injection sites. They show before a show with the low body fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Wasn’t using slin. I was putting everything in slin pins so there wouldn’t be any knots at the injection sites. They show before a show with the low body fat.
    I actually do the same but now all the time. The sides seem to be limited by keeping the serum levels consistent.


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    Sometimes they actually put the radiology report on the MRI disk itself. The Rad report is written up by a radiologist based on what he sees in the MRI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I actually do the same but now all the time. The sides seem to be limited by keeping the serum levels consistent.


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    Good. I don’t feel bad admitting that slin pins are all I use now. Lol. They are just so easy and smooth.

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