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12-26-2017, 09:02 PM #681BANNED
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very true . just like Halo on paper should be hell of a lot stronger then Tren with its super high androgenic and anabolic rating. but in real life no one grows off of Halo
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12-26-2017, 10:35 PM #682
You have referenced Halo a couple of times. Can you provide your opinion?
I have a bottle that was provided to me when I asked for proviron . They told me it was the same. I started reading about it and did not like what I read so it still sits there.
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12-27-2017, 12:05 AM #683BANNED
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lol they said Halo and proviron were the same thing. total different compounds with totally different uses. I can run proviron at 70mg and feel great for months . 30mg of halo for a week and I get a horrible headache.
Halo is mainly used by guys about 3 weeks out from a show. When they go to pull out Test (to get dry) Halo is added in. its very very androgenic (no E conversion) and not only will it aide in drying you out but it will make you very aggressive and strong. which when your at the tail end of your diet and really dragging ass is a good thing. essentially it will help you push through your depletion workouts, while also 'hardening' the muscle .
its super anabolic on paper , but in real life use it does not seem to add mass. Thats why for body building its really only used for show prep.
its also used by power lifters peaking for power lifting meets as well. The high amount of androgen it has will greatly increase a guys aggression and strength
it has some limited use for limited times, if you can tolerate the toxicity factor and headaches
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12-27-2017, 04:25 AM #684
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12-27-2017, 07:31 AM #686
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12-27-2017, 07:40 AM #687
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Fuck, I can’t keep up with all these peptides and such. What is DES?
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12-27-2017, 08:17 AM #689
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12-27-2017, 09:25 AM #690
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12-27-2017, 12:59 PM #694BANNED
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DES is the short chain version of IGF-1 . its half life is only about 20 mins. but its about 10x more powerful then standard IGF, and its about 5x more powerful then LR3. Being its half life is so short you also don't de-sensitize to it (its out of your system fast enough) so you can take it day in and day out.
where IGF-LR3 is the long chain version of IGF. its half life is about 24 hours. it hangs around the blood stream much longer waiting to bind to receptors and communicate with cells. but because its always in the system your body de-sensitizes to it rather quickly. I find that after just a couple weeks it does not seem to be working
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12-27-2017, 01:18 PM #695
Wow! They're worlds apart. Halo can be your best friend or your worst enemy (mentally and physically). LOL, I do NOT recommend halo and miberolone at the same time. You'll bend the bar without plates!
Edit. Yes, I did it years ago. I was on a short run of halo and had some cheque drops looking at me. Glad I have a durable liver.Last edited by almostgone; 12-27-2017 at 01:20 PM.
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12-27-2017, 01:36 PM #696
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12-27-2017, 03:46 PM #698There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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12-28-2017, 02:22 AM #703
Quester is now judging
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11 competitors thus far, awaiting reply from redz which would make it 12
- Capebuffalo
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12-28-2017, 07:58 AM #704
Alright, looking for work out advice. I've been lifting all my adult life, on and off, and know how to get big. However, I've never been under 18% bf (guessing of course). I've lost weight plenty of times, but never done anything like this. Should I do mostly cardio, or keep doing resistance training as well.
My plan was to continue to weight train, but more of a hiit style workout, I guess is how you would say it. Pretty much no resting is what I was thinking. After that I'm planning 45-60 mins of hiit cardio.
For diet I'm planning 50/30/20, or somewhere around that. I know this is the most important part so I will be very strict on this. Thanks for any advice
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12-28-2017, 09:31 AM #705
Before the competition starts I would just like to take a minute and thank rnsplg and all of the other judges for the time they are taking to help run this comp. I would also like to thank Cape for bringing up the idea and getting it started.
I hope everyone remembers this is for fun and no matter what the outcome is no one complains or argues about the results. I realize that test levels and many other levels may be high but lets all remember there is nothing at stake but looking good in the mirror and bragging rights.
Good luck to all the competitors
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a few tips I use for fat loss
- separate your cardio session from your weight training sessions. Try to get in 3-4 cardio sessions in the AM 40-60 mins, then hit your weight sessions in the afternoon. for these sessions I'm a fan of moderate intensity steady state
- your weight sessions should be mainly focused on metabolite training. lots of super sets and drop sets. and training beyond failure. higher reps, 12-20 (depending on muscle group) and really get that lactic acid flowing. 20 rep sets of squats will shred you (drop the 5x5)
- set up your workout split so that you can train antagonist muscle groups together (eg., chest and back, bicep and tricep, shoulders and lats, quads and hamstrings). the reason for this is you can blast though an hour workout and have zero rest between sets, eg., you do bench press super seted with t-bar rows (your chest recovers during the row and vice versa, but your heart rate stays elevated the whole time), or you do leg extensions for quads super setting with hamstring curls.
- after your workout do 15-20 mins of HIT on a spin bike
as for diet. I'm assuming your going to be running gear. your don't need 20% of your macros coming from fat, especially while on gear. drop the fat as low as possible (supplement with omega and leave it at that). Keep your Carbohydrate intake mainly around the time of your weight training session. Try to not eat Carbs in the morning and go as long as you can without them, then consume them all around the workout or after the workout. Protein intake should be evenly spaced throughout the day
just some thoughts for you brother
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Since were are on this topic I’m going yo pick your brain a bit.
1. Do you ever favor a ketogenic or carb cycling approach vs low fat? If so in what situation (IE for female competitors i like for them to have higher fat intake to keep their reproductive system someowhat functional)
2. Have you ever done intermittent carb or calorie restriction? I’ve seen some competitors increase their prep time but add in a week (or two) of lower calorie or low carb then a week or two back upto maintaince?
3. For AM cardio, I assume you are having the client on and IF program woth that?
4. How or at what point do you alter the diet as a person leans up?
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12-28-2017, 11:46 AM #710BANNED
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1 - I absolutely favor a Keto diet, I've done it a dozen times myself and currently have several clients on Keto. However for guitarzan, I'm assuming he is going to be on a heavy cycle of AAS and is going to want to shred down while still being as big and full as he can (and keto is not going be the best for that situation). Super low fat in a calorie deficit with moderate protein and carbs is going to allow him to shred down and still keep his muscle fullness and size.
women have a much harder time getting into Ketosis then men. Women also have a lot higher craving for carbs then men do (carbs are a comfort food for women,, whereas a big fatty prime rib steak or bacon is comfort for men). Women also are not as sensitive to being low carb as men are (men get too low of carb and they become little bitches, its best for them just to go full Keto).. So women do just fine on a low carb diet, 50-100g, with moderate healthy fats and high protein. if they are in a fairly hefty calorie deficit then we will implement 're-feed' days where they drop the fat intake that day completely, and go into a calorie surplus with a bunch of carbs 300+g. this keeps the metabolism going.
and Yes I also like carb cycling . with high , low, medium and no carb days. with carb cycling I generally keep protein and fat the same and only cycle out the carbs (except the no carb days I add fat). so on some days the client is at maintenance and other days they are in a hefty deficit.
2- I kinda hit on some of that above. for show or photo prep I'm a fan of depletion two weeks out, with a high carb backload a day or so before, this has a 'super compensation' effect especially for men. you'll fill out and store more glycogen and water inter muscularly then you were able to before.
3- For AM cardio I'm a fan of fasted cardio (yeah yeah I know a lot of 'natural' body building gurus and the evidence based science guys will say it does not matter when you do your cardio, its all about calories in vs calories out , BUT with enhanced people a lot of drugs simply work better when fasted, thats why almost every IFBB guy does fasted cardio, despite the science, because they are enhanced). Yohimbe, insulin , caffeine, Clen , HGH frag, etc.. are going to work much better when taken fasted for fasted cardio.
IF someone is unable to be fasted for cardio then I highly recommend doing 'no carb' cardio. So your first meals of the day need to be protein with no carbs. and these should be smaller meals portion wise. we want blood sugar low during this AM cardio (why I personally take insulin with no carbs when I do cardio). we will get all our carbs around the weight training workout and after.
4- I'm a fan of "not playing all your cards at once" - what I mean by that is that when we go into a diet or cutting phase, we can't play all our cards from the start, we can't use every tool in the belt, we implement a few things at a time. that way when we hit a wall or plateau we have more cards to play.
eg.. we start a diet off at 400 calorie deficit with no drugs or fat burners. we lose a little weight and then stall. now we add in the fasted cardio 3x per week. we lose a little weight for a couple weeks and then stall. then we cut calories to 600 and then add in some drugs.. we lose a little weight and then stall.. now we implement some carb cycling plus add HIT cardio after our weight training sessions . etc etc.
also need to look at things like training intensity . IF someone is completely bogged down and training goes to shit, then we might spend 3-4 days doing high carbs and replenish as much glycogen stores as we can. then go back to low carb. a lot of it is situational and person dependent.
hope that helps
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12-28-2017, 11:54 AM #711
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12-28-2017, 11:55 AM #712
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That great! Thanks!
I get what you mean about not using all your tools up front. That makes a lot of sense and keeps the body stimulated. I’m about to add in fasted AM cardio on Jan 2nd for the start of the comp. I’m currently repleting for another Keto push. When I broke Ketos for two weeks after being on for 4. I started dropping fat like crazy when I went back into ketosis. I’ve really become a fan of intermittent calorie restriction. It seems like it supercharges fat loss once you get back into a negative deficiency.“If you can't explain it to a second grader, you probably don't understand it yourself.” Albert Einstein
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12-28-2017, 12:11 PM #714
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12-28-2017, 12:29 PM #716
20 rep squats are a real no shitter, especially for an old fart like me. I hit some crunches to get the core warmed up, moderate leg extensions w/ neoprene sleeves on, a light-ish set of deads and then head over to my squat rack. Start w/ a dry bar for 20, then a plate/side for 20, 2 plates/side for for 20, 3 plates/side for 20 (try to get 2 sets of those), then back to to 2 plates/side x 20, and a plate/side for 20.
It's an old school technique that will kick your @ss. Think JC Hise developed it and Peary Reader really pushed it to get people to try it. R.Strossen is a big proponent as well.There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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12-28-2017, 12:31 PM #717
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“If you can't explain it to a second grader, you probably don't understand it yourself.” Albert Einstein
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12-28-2017, 12:42 PM #719There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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12-28-2017, 12:50 PM #720
What I am looking for in this competition is for criticism from judges and competitors so I can improve my physique, workout, and diet. The amount of knowledge assembled here between the competitors and judges is incredible. I am interested to see how others my age transform.. Up until now, I have been gaging myself against the 20+ y/o and feel that I always come up short. They are little speedboats that can transform quickly and I am like an aircraft carrier that needs miles to change direction.
I also want to state that I am not a disrespectful person and if I offend anyone in my joking, it was not intentional. Please let me know and I will be respectful of your preferences. I do not think it will happen, but rns had stated that it did occur last time.
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