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05-21-2018, 01:59 PM #961
So my chest and shoulder session tonight wasn’t great, left shoulder weakness is still there, no pain but no strength either.... Actually managed to drop a dumbbell on my shoulder today because it collapsed inwards... so pressing is a big no no right now.
So moving forward, Lots of fly movements, in all honesty I get a better connection from flys than pressing movements anyway, I always feel like my shoulders over power my chest... this could be why my chest lacks size. I’ll be doing this for a couple of months just going to give my body a proper break from pressing... first time in 5 years!!!
This is no excuse by any means I will be training everything just as hard if not harder and honestly I’m excited to see if this actually helps my chest growth... my motivation is a 10/10 and it’s staying that way despite the shoulder problem.
Anyway, sessions will be as below for a while.
3 days on 1 day off.
200 Calorie CV Pre Workout
Playing sets & reps by ear, will utilise drop sets & RPS on last sets , 45 seconds rest between sets... will mix exercises up here and there.
Day 1: Chest, Shoulders, Quads
Chest Flys (Various Angles)
Lateral Raises
Front Raises
Weighted Press Ups (Fail)
Leg Extensions
Split Squats (Front Loaded)
Day 2: Back, Calves
Lat Pull Down
CG Pull Down
Seated Row Machine (High Grip)
Single Arm Rows
Straight leg deadlifts
Hamstring Curls
Calve Raises
Day 3: Arms & Abs
Rope H-Curls SS Rope Push Downs
Dumbbell Curls SS CG Push Ups
Preacher Curls
Triangle Push Downs
Cable Crunches Or Leg Lifts
The Arm day is for fun... and for a day where I can be active but don’t have to tax my CNS.
The above doesn’t look like a lot but I train until I want to vomit, my level of intensity and my ability to execute an exercise is high.Last edited by Eduke93; 05-21-2018 at 02:03 PM.
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05-21-2018, 02:01 PM #962
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05-21-2018, 02:05 PM #963
For me there are a lot of benefits of being older. Mainly hormonal - not dealing with all the fluctuations in hormones that I did as a younger woman - but also having a lifestyle that allows for plenty of training - a lifestyle I couldn't have maintained when I was younger and had a lot my constraints on my time. Also financially better off than my younger years, so able to hire a coach, afford supps and gear. And the most obvious benefit of age: experience. In 30 years of training I've learned so much- and so much about my body and motivation, etc.
Of course I have the war wounds and wear and tear etc all older athletes have, but I'm better equipped for gains at 50 than I was at 25
See the bright side, fellas!
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05-21-2018, 02:07 PM #964
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05-21-2018, 02:10 PM #965
My weekend and upcoming...
Sat rest day - and cheat meal day
Sun cardio 45 LISS in the a.m., hams (+ abs, hip abductors, calves)
Mon cardio 45 LISS in the a.m., I have chest (+ glutes and calves) tonight
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05-21-2018, 02:13 PM #966
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05-21-2018, 02:25 PM #967
I agree
I had lots of battles to fight in my 20s and had no stability or any set plan to follow or safety net to fall on. During that time it's important to accumulate knowledge, skills, advancement in expertise in your work, plan your finances et.c. I think if I did AAS back then I'd end up needing TRT (But it is very difficult to get here) much earlier and would end up going back and forth gaining some then losing some... And would not have the knowledge on how to manage side effects... And would not have known what I know about training now...
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05-21-2018, 02:27 PM #968
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05-21-2018, 02:29 PM #969
It looks like lot of volume really, it would be too much for me to do in one session, especially the mixed upper/lower body workouts.
I love flies too I can only press the same weight as I do flies with (currently 20kg dbs), which is ridiculous, triceps are a big weak point, but I'm working my way up.
And oh, bug handicap, I can't target abs directly, since teenage I've been experiencing massive cramps every time I attempted to do a few crunches or sit ups.
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05-21-2018, 02:30 PM #970
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05-21-2018, 10:50 PM #971
This has been silent last night, where's everyone
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05-21-2018, 11:46 PM #972
Just got home from the gym. Chest on a Monday night with everyone else :P
Feeling chunky as hell. I thought a bulk would be fun. I'm learning it's easy physically but tough mentally
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05-21-2018, 11:50 PM #973
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05-22-2018, 02:21 AM #974Productive Member
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Good morning all.
9 or so days till next pin. 10 weeks feels too long for me. 8 weeks would be better imo. But ill be cycling after the next couple of pins so i suppose it doesnt matter
Think im going to order some tbol to round off the comp.
Dont think being the niave 'natural' is going to win me this comp
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05-22-2018, 02:47 AM #975
Yeah, well i play sets and reps by ear, but despite how many sets i do even if its 2 that last set will be executed to ultimate failure either by an RPS set or drop set.
Flys are great, At the end of the day there is no reason as to why you cant build a huge chest from flys. You can go heavy, you can squeeze and its very isolated compared to pressing. To be honest i don't often train abs, its purely for core strength, i used to train with a belt until recently i have decided to scrap the belt as i feel i was relying on it too much and cores strength has taken a beating because of this!
Its all a learning curve...
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05-22-2018, 03:56 AM #976
Arm destruction tonight and cardio.
200 calories CV
Cable rope hammer curls super set rope push downs 3x 10-12 1x Drop Set
Dbell curls super set weighted close grip push ups 3x 8-10 1x RPS
Preacher Curls 4x10-12
Triangle grip push downs 4x10-12
Cable crunches/leg lifts at the end too!!
Food Today:
M1: 5 Weetabix w/ soy milk
Snack: 1 Apple, 2 banans & Whey Protein
M2: Over night protein oats w/ PB (this is whey protein, oats, banana, raisins and peanut butter)
Pre workout: Protein sludge w/ Banana
M3: 1 head of broccoli, 4 soy burgers, cup of white rice
Snack 2x Kiwi FruitsLast edited by Eduke93; 05-22-2018 at 04:16 AM.
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05-22-2018, 04:07 AM #977
Morning brother.
Damn, how is the protocol working for you why aren't they just prescribing weekly cyp injections, surely you can opt for that?
Not being naive, look at the pics below. The one where i was chubby i think i was about 16, The other one was me 100% natural at 18, Skinny but held a decent frame. Did this with 0 drugs and a badly structured training plan.
Started using steroids at about 19, did a var only then first injectables at about 20-21 i think, i get confused rubbish with dates.
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05-22-2018, 06:20 AM #978Productive Member
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Im on nebido atm which is my preffered form of trt looking at the options. I am still in the beginning phases of sorts. My levels are still building i guess. But 10 weels just feels too long.
Im still one fat boy so i neer to get the bodyfat down. I wouldnt add in anything if i wasnt on trt but i dont need to worry about messing my hpta since its already fucked.
I find it quite difficult to shift fat and add it very easily unfortuantly but i was able to put on quite some muscle while low on test.
Going to cycle with test in september if i get the all clear after this blood work next week. Also going to start complicating things with hcg lol
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05-22-2018, 06:53 AM #979
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05-22-2018, 07:20 AM #980
Weighed 211 this morning, that's 8lbs less than start weight. Not wanting to lose weight, but I guess if I'm gonna get the fat off fairly quick than I'm gonna have to sacrifice weight, then bulk after I lose the fat.
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05-22-2018, 07:49 AM #981
Good morning Ladies and gents! Had a great arm workout last night, then I blew it! Went out to dinner with friends and had chicken, asparagus, on a bed of quinoa and a diet coke while they all had two alcohol beverages. So far so good they even tried to get me to eat some fries and I held tough! Then we went to a different bar to do this thing we call sign in (it's a local thing). I cracked and had two jamisons and diet coke. I am pissed at myself.
Core/Abs and cardio after work today.
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05-22-2018, 07:51 AM #982
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05-22-2018, 08:17 AM #986Productive Member
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Its test undecanoate injecting 1000mg every 10 weeks is my protocol.
It is supposed to pick up in further injections. I found this to be preferable to cyp or sustanon due to the convenience of long pins and far apart blood work.
It has also been vouched for by multiple people on the board.
Hope it picks up at the end during next pin..
Probably wont be able to tell because ill be halfway through 500mgs of bayer test depot lol
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