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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    There is actually more to it. The skin has been stretched and as you get older the elasticity decreases. This is due to the collagen.
    Working abs, building muscle, helps fill this void.
    I struggle at competition time with the skin and I am single digit fat content. As I get leaner it becomes more pronounced.
    I have taken collagen but not really seen anything exceptional.
    The collagen activation is why the RF treatments work.


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    Makes sense about collagen as we age. The woman who told me is like 29 or something. Gotta name drop: Kat Secor. If you follow women's physique you might know her. Or if you follow Super League. Or women's paintball (IFBB pro and Team USA paintball athlete <swoon>) Google her, guys! She's my brush with greatness

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    There is actually more to it. The skin has been stretched and as you get older the elasticity decreases. This is due to the collagen.
    Working abs, building muscle, helps fill this void.
    I struggle at competition time with the skin and I am single digit fat content. As I get leaner it becomes more pronounced.
    I have taken collagen but not really seen anything exceptional.
    The collagen activation is why the RF treatments work.


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    Got to hate those skinny people that never had to work hard and lose weight. Some people have great genetics........I was only blessed in two areas and I think with both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Makes sense about collagen as we age. The woman who told me is like 29 or something. Gotta name drop: Kat Secor. If you follow women's physique you might know her. Or if you follow Super League. Or women's paintball (IFBB pro and Team USA paintball athlete <swoon>) Google her, guys! She's my brush with greatness
    I have consulted many bodybuilders and trainers. I think that my journey has resulted in me knowing more than them. They never had this situation to deal with. They were honest up front and said try this or try that meaning it was really an expirement.


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    I have some eq I bout awhile back for it's ability to help with collagen synthesis, for my back. Maybe I'll run it now, low dose, since I'm off cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    I have some eq I bout awhile back for it's ability to help with collagen synthesis, for my back. Maybe I'll run it now, low dose, since I'm off cycle
    That's broscience it will only boost blood counts if anything.
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    Rest WE passed and feeling fully recovered as well as ready for chest tonight.

    Who's training today?

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    After a very long weekend of sitting on my ass in a truck I will be back at it today. Legs tonight. Then continue to work on the new camper to get ready for 10 days of partying! Life must go on! Anyone that knows me, knows that I try to do my best to maintain a happy fun life and fit body to do it in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheart View Post
    Rest WE passed and feeling fully recovered as well as ready for chest tonight.

    Who's training today?
    Arms the night mate. Im gassed already and all ive done is go to the dentist and go for a run... ohhhh im feeling it

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheart View Post
    That's broscience it will only boost blood counts if anything.
    How do you know?

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    Worked my calfs pretty good, think they starting to grow a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    How do you know?
    Cause there's nothing special to the compound, it's an androgen steroid and expresses its potential via the AR (androgen receptor).

    In fact, boldenone it's just a dumbed down version of Test, and activates the AR in a less potent way, that means if there's anything EQ can do about collagen synthesis, it's already overshadowed and accounted by Test running in your system.

    Simply put, just stick to Test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheart View Post
    Cause there's nothing special to the compound, it's an androgen steroid and expresses its potential via the AR (androgen receptor).

    In fact, boldenone it's just a dumbed down version of Test, and activates the AR in a less potent way, that means if there's anything EQ can do about collagen synthesis, it's already overshadowed and accounted by Test running in your system.

    Simply put, just stick to Test.
    Hmmm, makes sense. Thought about staying on deca low dose, I dont know, thought about running some var too. I dont know what the hell I wanna do, hate to come off completely while I'm so close to my goal

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
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    Lose skin on my gut makes me wanna puke, hard to stay motivated to continue losing fat. I'll be glad when summers over so I can go back to bulking
    Quote Originally Posted by hammerheart View Post
    Cause there's nothing special to the compound, it's an androgen steroid and expresses its potential via the AR (androgen receptor).

    In fact, boldenone it's just a dumbed down version of Test, and activates the AR in a less potent way, that means if there's anything EQ can do about collagen synthesis, it's already overshadowed and accounted by Test running in your system.

    Simply put, just stick to Test.
    Agree completely. Only thing I wont waste money on

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Hmmm, makes sense. Thought about staying on deca low dose, I dont know, thought about running some var too. I dont know what the hell I wanna do, hate to come off completely while I'm so close to my goal
    Var. Run the shit out of var w/test the last 6 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Var. Run the shit out of var w/test the last 6 weeks.
    Think its absolutely crazy to run orals after a liver blood clot event...

    Even if the culprit was 100% gallbladder surgery, and the tiny amount of tren & Co he was taking had nothing to do with it, the truth is that at least part of the liver had blood flow compromised for god knows how long. It needs time to heal IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Think its absolutely crazy to run orals after a liver blood clot event...

    Even if the culprit was 100% gallbladder surgery, and the tiny amount of tren & Co he was taking had nothing to do with it, the truth is that at least part of the liver had blood flow compromised for god knows how long. It needs time to heal IMHO.
    Isn't var giving to people with liver wasting disease?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Think its absolutely crazy to run orals after a liver blood clot event...

    Even if the culprit was 100% gallbladder surgery, and the tiny amount of tren & Co he was taking had nothing to do with it, the truth is that at least part of the liver had blood flow compromised for god knows how long. It needs time to heal IMHO.
    Um. When did this happen? Unaware of liver blood clot event. Any liver issue I wouldn’t take an oral. Especially with a clot. My bad. Diet and cardio for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Um. When did this happen? Unaware of liver blood clot event. Any liver issue I wouldn’t take an oral. My bad.
    Yea, went to er couple weeks ago cause of a weird back pain, had a portal vein thrombosis, blood clot in the vein returning blood from liver. It was caused by gallbladder surgery, but I stopped cycle cause I know liver was probably stressed. I was just thinking taking a little something to help keep muscle while cutting, but I'll just stick with low dose test

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Isn't var giving to people with liver wasting disease?
    Muscle wasting disease caused by liver cirrhosis? You sure you want treatment for this?

    Oxandrolone its not the "traditional" treatment, and the dosage is probably less than 10mg. But there might be a stage in the disease that is better to risk a little so that patients dont get completely bedridden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Muscle wasting disease caused by liver cirrhosis? You sure you want treatment for this?

    Oxandrolone its not the "traditional" treatment, and the dosage is probably less than 10mg. But there might be a stage in the disease that is better to risk a little so that patients dont get completely bedridden.
    Oh ok. So don't take var while on winstrol to help the liver...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Yea, went to er couple weeks ago cause of a weird back pain, had a portal vein thrombosis, blood clot in the vein returning blood from liver. It was caused by gallbladder surgery, but I stopped cycle cause I know liver was probably stressed. I was just thinking taking a little something to help keep muscle while cutting, but I'll just stick with low dose test
    Full medical disclosure to me before asking a question. I could have killed you you skinny bastard. .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Full medical disclosure to me before asking a question. I could have killed you you skinny bastard. .
    Haha, I wish I were skinny. I figured you didn't know, you wasnt on here much around that time
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Haha, I wish I were skinny. I figured you didn't know, you wasnt on here much around that time
    How are you doing now? Tip top?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    How are you doing now? Tip top?
    Went the following week and got ultrasound, it showed half blocked, it was a total block. Got another appointment next Monday with vascular doc, will get another cat scan. Still on thinners for now
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    Much more energetic, I think it was slowing me down

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Yea, went to er couple weeks ago cause of a weird back pain, had a portal vein thrombosis, blood clot in the vein returning blood from liver. It was caused by gallbladder surgery, but I stopped cycle cause I know liver was probably stressed. I was just thinking taking a little something to help keep muscle while cutting, but I'll just stick with low dose test
    At your age, you should be taking a baby aspirin every morning and night. And buy one of those "The FLEX BELT" so you can get 6 pack abs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David LoPan View Post
    At your age, you should be taking a baby aspirin every morning and night.
    Yea, along with ephedrine and caffeine...lol
    Seriously, I bet if I was still drinking every night I wouldn't be having all these troubles. I was good to to go till I stopped drinking, smoking and eating bad
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Went the following week and got ultrasound, it showed half blocked, it was a total block. Got another appointment next Monday with vascular doc, will get another cat scan. Still on thinners for now
    Man. Hoping for a good outcome for you big guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Yea, along with ephedrine and caffeine...lol
    Seriously, I bet if I was still drinking every night I wouldn't be having all these troubles. I was good to to go till I stopped drinking, smoking and eating bad
    Story of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Man. Hoping for a good outcome for you big guy.
    Thanks man, I'm sure I'm good. Vascular doc said It shouldn't be a big deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Yea, along with ephedrine and caffeine...lol
    Seriously, I bet if I was still drinking every night I wouldn't be having all these troubles. I was good to to go till I stopped drinking, smoking and eating bad
    Lol stop killing me

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    Thanks man, I'm sure I'm good. Vascular doc said It shouldn't be a big deal
    Happy it didn't end up being serious. Good decision on dropping anything that thickens the blood for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Went the following week and got ultrasound, it showed half blocked, it was a total block. Got another appointment next Monday with vascular doc, will get another cat scan. Still on thinners for now
    You take it easy man. We all want you around for a long time. Health first, everything else second.


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    Got a new wo split from my coach today and I'm stoked bc the emphasis is on shoulders. I love shoulders. 4 days on 1 day off, 3 days on, 1 day off, repeat. Two of those days are shoulders, plus a little shoulder add in on chest, back, arms days
    Still hitting cardio 6 days/week. Or that's the goal. Last week was only 4 days. Stupid life getting in the way.

    I have quads tonight. What are you guys working?

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Went the following week and got ultrasound, it showed half blocked, it was a total block. Got another appointment next Monday with vascular doc, will get another cat scan. Still on thinners for now
    Good luck buddy. Sorry about the bs setback

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Good luck buddy. Sorry about the bs setback
    Thanks man, no big deal about the set back, I'm in it for the long run. Bout time to take a break from aas anyway, just really wanted to make it till end of comp. I bulk pretty good natty, I like to cycle when I cut. I'm going continue to cut a little longer, but if I start struggling to keep muscle I'm going back to bulk. Gotta get diet back on track, been eating like hell since the hospital, but I feel like I needed it, fat loss had hit a brick wall. Feel like my batteries have been recharged!
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Thanks man, no big deal about the set back, I'm in it for the long run. Bout time to take a break from aas anyway, just really wanted to make it till end of comp. I bulk pretty good natty, I like to cycle when I cut. I'm going continue to cut a little longer, but if I start struggling to keep muscle I'm going back to bulk. Gotta get diet back on track, been eating like hell since the hospital, but I feel like I needed it, fat loss had hit a brick wall. Feel like my batteries have been recharged!
    Thats great news then.
    How long do you think there has been a blockage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Thats great news then.
    How long do you think there has been a blockage?
    GB surgery was in feburary, so it probably started then. I'm sure it was fully blocked long
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Got a new wo split from my coach today and I'm stoked bc the emphasis is on shoulders. I love shoulders. 4 days on 1 day off, 3 days on, 1 day off, repeat. Two of those days are shoulders, plus a little shoulder add in on chest, back, arms days
    Still hitting cardio 6 days/week. Or that's the goal. Last week was only 4 days. Stupid life getting in the way.

    I have quads tonight. What are you guys working?
    Only four days cardio... lol.


    It's back day for me, targeting mostly lats, leaving rears for shoulders day on Thursday. Getting a fancy haircut in a bit then off to gym later.


    Was in for Chest last night and something was off, barely broke a sweat, while I usually end up in a pool with little effort.

    Been experimenting what feels good what not, did too many exercises and sets, high volume work, not my cup of tea. Still got chest sore, but...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeanutbutterDC View Post
    Got a new wo split from my coach today and I'm stoked bc the emphasis is on shoulders. I love shoulders. 4 days on 1 day off, 3 days on, 1 day off, repeat. Two of those days are shoulders, plus a little shoulder add in on chest, back, arms days
    Still hitting cardio 6 days/week. Or that's the goal. Last week was only 4 days. Stupid life getting in the way.

    I have quads tonight. What are you guys working?
    Nice I enjoy killing shoulders too. Destroyed legs last night I went against my Doctors wishes a bit more than usual and pushed my squats up to 315. Leg extensions at 165, leg curls at 145, and calf raises at 260 (on a machine). Could barely walk up the stairs to the cardio equipment, but made it and then did 35 minutes cardio.
    Tonight is one of my favorites as well ... chest. I have been working upper chest hard to try and get a deeper cut in the upper chest, so shoulders get a bit of a workout too.
    Looked in the mirror for the mirror test this morning and my obliques V - line is back!

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