The mainstream media did this to America

[Beetlegeuse]

Breaking Mark Meadows — ‘Trump asked me to declassify new spygate documents this morning’…

For the record, POTUS doesn't ask for things to be declassified. He is the ultimate authority so whatever he wants declassified gets declassified.

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Sikhs for Trump! MSM will never show you this…



Well, namaste 'n shit.

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Long-ish article; click the hotlink in the headline to read the rest.

‘Fudds for Biden' Continues Democrat Tradition of Lying to Gun Owners



“Today, as millions of Americans begin their annual ritual of fall hunting, Biden for President announced the launch of Sportsmen and Sportswomen for Biden — a coalition of more than 50 prominent hunters and anglers from across the country, who have come together to endorse Joe Biden for President of the United States,” a September campaign press release announced. “This bipartisan group of hunters and anglers have come together because they know that Joe Biden shares their values, will protect our ability to hunt and fish, and because they know that Trump’s presidency has been a disaster to everyone who treasures the outdoors. Over the next nine weeks, they have committed to reach out to other sportsmen and sportswomen across the country, and to organize state chapters in all of the most closely contested states.”

“Joe Biden has committed to key principles that will ensure a strong future for hunting and fishing in America,” the promo piece promises. “Protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans to purchase and responsibly use firearms for hunting and sporting.”

There is, of course, one huge problem with that, one which Firearms News regulars don’t need me to remind them of:

The Second Amendment ain’t about duck hunting.

Or deer hunting. Or target shooting. Or competitions. Or collecting. Or even strictly about “self-defense.”

We know the Founders intended the core purpose to be “security of a free State,” and that in order to make that work, the people needed to be recognized as the ultimate guarantors of their own freedom via the most egalitarian power-sharing arrangement ever conceived: their duty to participate in “the Militia of the several States,” only made possible by their uninfringed right to keep and bear arms, that is, “ordinary military equipment” intended to be taken into “common defense” battles....

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[tarmyg]

Breaking Mark Meadows — ‘Trump asked me to declassify new spygate documents this morning’…

For the record, POTUS doesn't ask for things to be declassified. He is the ultimate authority so whatever he wants declassified gets declassified.

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Sikhs for Trump! MSM will never show you this…



Well, namaste 'n shit.

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Long-ish article; click the hotlink in the headline to read the rest.

‘Fudds for Biden' Continues Democrat Tradition of Lying to Gun Owners



“Today, as millions of Americans begin their annual ritual of fall hunting, Biden for President announced the launch of Sportsmen and Sportswomen for Biden — a coalition of more than 50 prominent hunters and anglers from across the country, who have come together to endorse Joe Biden for President of the United States,” a September campaign press release announced. “This bipartisan group of hunters and anglers have come together because they know that Joe Biden shares their values, will protect our ability to hunt and fish, and because they know that Trump’s presidency has been a disaster to everyone who treasures the outdoors. Over the next nine weeks, they have committed to reach out to other sportsmen and sportswomen across the country, and to organize state chapters in all of the most closely contested states.”

“Joe Biden has committed to key principles that will ensure a strong future for hunting and fishing in America,” the promo piece promises. “Protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding Americans to purchase and responsibly use firearms for hunting and sporting.”

There is, of course, one huge problem with that, one which Firearms News regulars don’t need me to remind them of:

The Second Amendment ain’t about duck hunting.

Or deer hunting. Or target shooting. Or competitions. Or collecting. Or even strictly about “self-defense.”

We know the Founders intended the core purpose to be “security of a free State,” and that in order to make that work, the people needed to be recognized as the ultimate guarantors of their own freedom via the most egalitarian power-sharing arrangement ever conceived: their duty to participate in “the Militia of the several States,” only made possible by their uninfringed right to keep and bear arms, that is, “ordinary military equipment” intended to be taken into “common defense” battles....

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[Beetlegeuse]

Yeah, it's been said before, but this time they're just repeating what the Dims have said themselves

10 Ways Democrats and Joe Biden Will Destroy America as We Know it

Just the bullet points; follow the link in the headline to watch the video and hear his details supporting each point.

1. Open borders. Uncontrolled immigration will destroy any country's culture.

2. Castrate the military. It goes without saying with any demoncrat president. And they'll turn them into another social experiment, demanding that Special Forces remove the obstacles to short, fat, paraplegic, lesbian epileptics becoming "operators."

3. Marginalize faith. They're already going after Amy Coney Barrett for being Catholic (in abeyance of the US Constitution).

4, 5 & 6. Remove the legislative filibuster, stack SCOTUS with leftists who'll legislate from the bench, and grant statehood to Puerto Rico and Washington DC.

(4, 5 & 6 collectively will give the demoncrats a perpetual supermajority and leave us with one-party rule)

7. Castrate the police. Give crime a chance.

8. Socialize medicine and destroy the private health insurance industry.

9. More protests-cum-riots.

10. Weaken all international trade deals.

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DECLASSIFIED: Sheikh Obama (piss be upon him) was briefed that the Russia Hoax was entirely of Hitlery's invention

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Breaking — Ratcliffe declassifies Obamagate documents…



Obama (PBUH) was briefed that Hitlery intended spying on candidate Trump, and was cooking up a fabricated smear story (the Russia Hoax) to take the heat off of her ILLEGALLY operated and ILLEGALLY destroyed email server.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Trump's playbook... (if he could read...)



The way Trumpettes have sold their souls and lost their little minds is truly remarkable.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

And for more from Trump's idol...

https://twitter.com/mattdanzico/stat...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Beetlegeuse]

Trump is ordering the unredacted Obamagate notes released. This is about to get really interesting (and damning).

A sitting president tacitly approving of his Secretary of State (and his party's presumptive candidate for POTUS) spying on the opposition's candidate, and fabricating an elaborate hoax to slander him.


But wait, ... there's more ...

... the GOP smells blood in the water ....

GOP Senators Johnson, Grassley request all text messages produced by FBI's Crossfire Hurricane team

GOP Sens. Ron Johnson, Wisconsin, and Chuck Grassley, Iowa, have sent a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray requesting the complete set of intelligence records pertaining to the Crossfire Hurricane -- i.e. Russia investigation -- team. ...

[Beetlegeuse]

Declassified memos: CIA feared Clinton was 'stirring up' false Russia collusion narrative

Suspected goal was to "vilify Donald Trump" and distract from Clinton's own controversies in 2016 election.

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified two documents showing President Obama's CIA feared in summer 2016 that Hillary Clinton was "stirring up" a false Russia collusion narrative to "vilify" Donald Trump and distract from her own controversies heading into the election.

The memos indicate the CIA first received the information through the monitoring of Russian sources and deemed it credible enough to brief Obama on it in July 2016 and to refer the intelligence to the FBI in September 2016 for possible investigation.

The warnings came as the FBI was just starting its Crossfire Hurricane probe into now-disproven Trump-Russia collusion, aided by the Clinton campaign-funded dossier by Christopher Steele. They are likely to bolster GOP claims the James Comey's FBI ignored clear evidence that the allegations were a political dirty trick and not evidence of a counterintelligence threat.

"Per FBI verbal request, CIA provides the below examples of information the CROSSFIRE HURRICANE fusion cell has gleaned to date," the September 2016 referral from the Agency to the bureau read. "An exchange [redacted] discussing US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s approval of a plan concerning US presidential candidate Donald Trump and Russian hackers hampering US elections as a means of distracting the public form her use of a private email server."...

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Obama Began Holding Secret Meetings in the White House Basement In July 2016 At the Exact Same Time the Trump-Russia Hoax Was Put Into Play

... Yahoo News released this report in March 2018 thinking that President Trump would soon be removed from office. What they also reported was that Obama started holding secret meetings in the basement of the White House at this time:

While Brennan wrangled the intelligence agencies into a turf­-crossing operation that could feed the White House information on the Russian maneuver, Obama convened a series of meetings to devise a plan for countering whatever the Russians were up to. The meetings followed the procedure known in the federal government as the “interagency process.” The protocol was for the deputy chiefs of the relevant government agencies to meet and hammer out options for the principals — that is, the heads of the agencies — and then the principals hold a separate (and sometimes parallel) chain of meetings to discuss and perhaps debate before presenting choices to the president.

But for this topic, the protocol was not observed. Usually when the White House invited the deputies and principals to such meetings, they informed them of the subject at hand and provided “read­ahead” memos outlining what was on the agenda. This time, the agency officials just received instructions to show up at the White House at a certain time. No reason given. No memos supplied. “We were only told that a meeting was scheduled, and our principal or deputy was expected to attend,” recalled a senior administration official who participated in the sessions. (At the State Department, only a small number of officials were cleared to receive the most sensitive information on the Russian hack; this group included Secretary of State John Kerry; Tony Blinken, the deputy secretary of state; Dan Smith, head of the department’s intelligence bureau; and Jon Finer, Kerry’s chief of staff.)

For the usual interagency sessions, principals and deputies could bring staffers. Not this time. “There were no plus ones,” an attendee recalled. When the subject of a principals or deputies meeting was a national security matter, the gathering was often held in the Situation Room of the White House. The in‑house video feed of the Sit Room — without audio — would be available to national security officials at the White House and elsewhere, and these officials could at least see that a meeting was in progress and who was attending. For the meetings related to the Russian hack, Susan Rice, Obama’s national security adviser, ordered the video feed turned off. She did not want others in the national security establishment to know what was under way, fearing leaks from within the bureaucracy.

We now know that Obama and his gang were holding secret meetings in the basement of the White House and now it’s pretty clear these meetings were kept secret in an effort to cover up their crimes.

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Poll: Majority of Americans Fear Post-Election Civil War

A poll of a selection of U.S. voters found 56 percent of respondents said they expect to see “an increase in violence as a result of the election” amongst other reservations about the election results just weeks before Election Day.

When asked about just what sort of violence they expected to see, those polled responded with “riots,” “looting,” “burning” as some of their predictions. “Trashing of cities” was another response.

The YouGov poll was completed between October 1 – 2, 2020 and used 1,503 respondents.

It followed another poll released October 1 that found 61 percent of Americans agree with the concern the U.S. could be on the verge of another Civil War.

Additionally, 52 percent of consumers have also stockpiled food or essential goods in anticipation of social unrest tied to a resurgence of coronavirus in the coming months and/ or the election.

The responses follow a tumultuous summer of street riots across America led by left-wing political agitators....

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Just the bullet points; follow the link for complete details.

5 Takeaways From Thomas and Alito’s Statement on ‘Gay Marriage’ and Kim Davis

1. Obergefell created “atexual” rights “undemocratically.”

2. Adjudicating Obergefell state by state, rather than by one body, would have allowed for greater protections for religious persons.

3. Obergefell uses demonizing language.

4. Davis will be the first of many religious persons that fall “victim” to Obergefell.

5. The Court needs to “fix” Obergefell.



Long story short, Obergefell v. Hodges isn't likely to survive the second Trump administration unscathed.

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Just the bullet points. Follow the hotlink in the headline for details.

Why Doesn’t It Feel Like Biden is Winning?

President Trump has made fools out of thousands of prophets predicting his doom.

* The media is actively sheltering Biden.

* Voters don’t vote to ban their new guns.

* What about Biden’s incompetent messaging?

* The campaign is full of toxic political correctness.

* History is not on Biden’s side.

* The intensity of Trump’s campaign is unstoppable.

* There is a great upheaval of our population underway.

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US election poll: Trump BEATING Biden despite being hospitalised with Covid

DONALD TRUMP'S illness with coronavirus has not impacted his push to win a second term in the White House, an exclusive poll has revealed.

... The poll was completed after the news broke that President Trump and his wife Melania have been infected by Covid-19.

But 68 percent said the illness would not affect their vote while 19 percent said they were “more likely” to support Trump and only 13 percent “less likely”.

Almost two thirds said they felt sympathy and concern for the President while 38 percent said him getting the disease was “karma” in an indication of the current divisive nature of US politics.

Crucially, Mr Trump’s lead in key swing states including Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin remains at 4 percent by 47 percent 43 percent.

This gives a projected Electoral College split of 320 to Trump and 218 to Biden....

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Antifa violence escalates as movement goes mainstream

... The rising level of violence from the group marks a sinister evolution from minor street crime to guerrilla tactics usually reserved for revolutionaries.

“The fear is that we are witnessing the beginning of something that could be more violent over time,” said Michael Kenney, a University of Pittsburgh professor who has interviewed Antifa sympathizers...

... Republican lawmakers have demanded the Justice Department open an investigation into the funding sources for Antifa’s activities. Last week, acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf told Fox News such an investigation is under way....

[Test Monsterone]

Trump's playbook... (if he could read...)



The way Trumpettes have sold their souls and lost their little minds is truly remarkable.

Coming from a formerly communist Eastern European country myself, this is spot on. Put a bunch of unqualified idiots in places of power so you can control and manipulate them. When they can't come up with real arguments against their opposition, they make up stories and sensationalize non-stories (Hillary's private email server). Corruption seeps into every facet of government and life. Neighbors become spies and snitches. The town idiot is now the head of police/security. America prospered because of democracy, because the brightest minds of repressed places wanted a better, more equal life. Now the ones who want to oppress and corrupt feed the stupid and gullible with ideas that the ones that stand for freedom and justice are in fact the socialists/fascists. It's mindblowing how easily people can be fooled... well when I think back at how fucking dumb most kids were in school, it doesn't surprise me.

[Beetlegeuse]

[Beetlegeuse]

Ruh-roh.

[Beetlegeuse]

Just how many "peaceful protests" does it take to cancel out
570 VIOLENT RIOTS?

[tarmyg]

[The Deadlifting Dog]

That is both very fitting and funny at the same time.

Thanks.

[Cuz]

Coming from a formerly communist Eastern European country myself, this is spot on. Put a bunch of unqualified idiots in places of power so you can control and manipulate them. When they can't come up with real arguments against their opposition, they make up stories and sensationalize non-stories (Hillary's private email server). Corruption seeps into every facet of government and life. Neighbors become spies and snitches. The town idiot is now the head of police/security. America prospered because of democracy, because the brightest minds of repressed places wanted a better, more equal life. Now the ones who want to oppress and corrupt feed the stupid and gullible with ideas that the ones that stand for freedom and justice are in fact the socialists/fascists. It's mindblowing how easily people can be fooled... well when I think back at how fucking dumb most kids were in school, it doesn't surprise me.

So basically i take what you’re saying is Trump supporters are “stupid and gullible” or did you mean something else?

[Test Monsterone]

So basically i take what you’re saying is Trump supporters are “stupid and gullible” or did you mean something else?

It's come to the point where you either side with conspiracy theories, lies, division, and corruption, or with civility, respect, inclusion, ethics, morals and truth. It's night and day for me, I don't know why anyone else struggles with this. I do not agree with everything left-leaning, but at this point in time, we either save democracy or leave it to a failed business man who was given a nice 300 million dollar gift from his dad, only to squander it through multiple bankruptcies, and to be bailed out by anonymous foreign groups/powers with ulterior motives for the direction of America and the world it resides in. Did you watch the first debate? Did you watch this one tonight? The guy you vote for thinks American soldiers are losers and suckers for serving their country. That's what's in his cold heart. You decide.

[Beetlegeuse]

[tarmyg]

[Beetlegeuse]

demoncrats are rioting in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin because a black cop was cleared of any wrongdoing for shooting back and killing a black Yute who shot first at the cop while he was fleeing

Follow the link in the headline for videos of the mayhem.

[Beetlegeuse]

The short case for re-electing Trump

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Thank you for providing a clear example of #6 of how to tell your POTUS is a fascist.



Controlling the mass media.

Trump and his cronies have convinced his followers that the media is fake news. Only he speaks the truth.
Hell, look at this thread here... what mainstream media has done to America.
In this thread BeetleButt constantly pushes right wing conspiracy propaganda pushed out by radical right wing media outlets.
Trump realizes that by lying enough he can "create" the truth.

It's the same thing with science. (see #11 above)
Global warming is a hoax but adrenochrome is real.
Covid-19 is a hoax. Masks are a hoax. But hydroxychloroquine and some herb pushed by the My Pillow CEO is real.
Don't trusts the intellectuals, the scientists... instead trust some Orange Trust Fund Baby.

It is why one should get their information from many different sources.
Don't simply watch OAN and read Breitbart.


By the way... does anyone think it is rather telling that when Trumpy Bear got Covid that he didn't take hydroxychloroquine?
Funny... he kept telling everyone what a great drug it was. Guess he is saving it for the rest of us.

[Madcox]

Hydroxychloroquine is real and has been used for over 50 years. This is a study done in 2005 by a Virologist Dr. at the NIH when Dr. Fauci was over the NIH. How come the main stream media didn’t report this study and encourage the use of something that cures corona virus? How come Governors banned the use of hydroxychloroquine? Hydroxychloroquine has been used for malaria and arthritis for over 50 years and has been tested and safe for most people (I’m sure that there are probably less than 10% of people that can’t take it). Why was the media saying that Hydroxychloroquine wasn’t tested? These are questions that everyone needs to be asking? The media has been lying to us all for many many years (That is what happens when all the media is owned by 5 corporations). People need to open their eyes and do their own research because we have all been duped for a long time by the media. There were lots of videos of Dr’s telling their research of 100% cure rate on Covid positive people. Some people could barely breath and within 4-6 hours the patient is breathing normally with zero fever and no more symptoms.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/

Just FYI, Hydroxychloroquine has largely replaced chloroquine in the United States, except among patients who travel to areas endemic with malaria. Although the mechanisms of the two agents are presumed to be the same, many reports suggest that chloroquine is more toxic to the retina than hydroxychloroquine.

Just FYI, google and YouTube has removed a lot of what they deem as “Conspiracy Theories” so use a search engine like bing to research. Also the term Conspiracy Theory was started by the CIA in the 1960’s as a way to discredit anyone who goes against their narrative.

https://projectunspeakable.com/consp...ention-of-cia/

Just wanted to put this out there to encourage everyone to do their own research and don’t go by what the main stream media is saying. Question everything and find out for yourself if it is true or not. Snopes, google, Fakebook and YouTube are part of the disinformation machine and are censoring what they deem as “conspiracy theory” so you can’t use them. There are certain channels on YouTube of people that have done their research and hasn’t gotten their channels deleted yet but probably won’t be long before they get censored.

Thanx! Love this forum! Hope everyone has a Great Day!

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Of course hydroxychloroquine is real.

But it isn't proven effective against covid-19.
And that is the truth.

The study you quote is from 2005.
Do you realize that Covid-19 wasn't around in 2005?

Tell me this... if hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid-19 then why didn't Trump take it?

[Cuz]

It's come to the point where you either side with conspiracy theories, lies, division, and corruption, or with civility, respect, inclusion, ethics, morals and truth. It's night and day for me, I don't know why anyone else struggles with this. I do not agree with everything left-leaning, but at this point in time, we either save democracy or leave it to a failed business man who was given a nice 300 million dollar gift from his dad, only to squander it through multiple bankruptcies, and to be bailed out by anonymous foreign groups/powers with ulterior motives for the direction of America and the world it resides in. Did you watch the first debate? Did you watch this one tonight? The guy you vote for thinks American soldiers are losers and suckers for serving their country. That's what's in his cold heart. You decide.

Well, ok. But you never actually answered my question. So i guess i know where I stand with you and thats fine you’re entitled to think how you want and i wont push the issue solely bc i dont want any trouble here at this forum or get the thread closed. All good

[Test Monsterone]

Well, ok. But you never actually answered my question. So i guess i know where I stand with you and thats fine you’re entitled to think how you want and i wont push the issue solely bc i dont want any trouble here at this forum or get the thread closed. All good

I got amped up from the debate, so I apologize if I insulted you or anyone else. Although I think you'd be making a mistake voting for Trump for many many reasons, I have to say from the little I know you, you seem like a smart guy and a good guy. My response was not directed at anyone here but Beetlegeuse constantly peddles far-right conspiracies and half-truths while insulting "the lefties" or "demoncrats." I don't even come on here much, but I was curious if anyone mentioned the debates and got sucked into responding. Every post Beet makes is inflammatory and most of it is skewed or flat out bs. Imagine I made a thread that constantly spread misinformation and attacked the right. This is what it is. This thread should be shut down, if not for anything but the spread of garbage non-truths and far-right propaganda.

[Madcox]

Of course hydroxychloroquine is real.

But it isn't proven effective against covid-19.
And that is the truth.

The study you quote is from 2005.
Do you realize that Covid-19 wasn't around in 2005?

Tell me this... if hydroxychloroquine is effective against Covid-19 then why didn't Trump take it?

No matter how you slice it Covid-19 is still a Corona virus and the hydroxychloroquine would still be effective based on hundreds of Drs prescribing it to their patients and they were having 98-100% cure rate. I will look to see if I can find a link to one of these Drs. And Trump was taking Hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic when he came out and said Hydroxychloroquine works. However, you can’t stay on it for long periods of time as I’m sure it gets toxic, and based on how fast Trump recovered from this virus I would bet money that he took it in Walter Reed. Not sure what he said he took but the vaccine isn’t ready yet and I highly doubt he would be a guinea pig to test it. Even Chris Cuomo from CNN took it when he got it but he took the more toxic version Chloroquine (of course you never heard that on the media).

[Beetlegeuse]

Whatever happened to civility?

Kommiemala Harris jokes about killing Trump & Pence

[Beetlegeuse]

Information Operation Episode 2: Witness Interview…Biden Helped Steal $4-5Billion From Ukraine



The conversation turns specifically to Joe Biden beginning at about 26 minutes.

[Beetlegeuse]

The Mainstream Media gave ZERO coverage to the declassification of the Brennan (Obamagate) memos

“They didn’t cover it all. It shouldn’t surprise you.”

-- Ainsley Earhardt

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Anarchism: An Evil Ideology Behind Why Democrats Support the 2020 Riots

... To most Americans, the sight of mass protests, riots, burning of buildings and cars, looting and violence is very disturbing. Who would celebrate such social disorder? The answer is in the ideology of Anarchism...

... Supporters of Anarchism think that everyone is as angry and unhappy as they are, just waiting for some attack on Authority and then there will be a mass uprising of the population, overthrowing all those institutions of power and control...

... The psychology underlying Anarchism (as Rousseau’s “democracy” and Marxist Communism) is that humans are naturally nice, peaceful, unselfish, generous, and loving. Its only laws and social structures that make people evil. So, eliminate those authoritarian social structures and everyone will be perfect, and society will be harmonious, happy, and heavenly (like a “Summer of Love”).

Most of Western social thought (as shown in The History of Political Theory: Ancient Greece to Modern America) takes issue with this idealistic view of human nature. Aristotle places humans BETWEEN gods and beasts, and without moral education and Social regulation we fall below the animals in violence and cruelty. The Christian tradition places evil “in the heart of man,” not social structures (which actually civilize humans). St. Augustine, Aquinas and Calvin all emphasize the reality of sin which, undisciplined, unpunished and uncontrolled, causes terrible destruction and suffering. Machiavelli is the most stark in his assessment of human lust and greed: everyone’s desires are infinite, their means to satisfy them finite, so left to their natural dispositions, without restraint, they are greedy, frustrated and criminal.

But Anarchists do not see the evil in their own hearts – only in the privileged and powerful. So, any means is justified in destroying the existing order, and then peace and light will prevail, without law, religion, police, or money.

In the late 19th Century, Russian Anarchists allied with the Bolsheviks to overthrow the Czar. After the October Revolution in Russia, those Anarchists planned to disband the State, the military, the police, the Church, and any ruling elite. The Russian Communists planned to establish an all-powerful Totalitarian “Dictatorship of the Proletariat.” Guess who won?

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Most frightening answer of 2020 election cycle…



demoncrat candidate for the office of US Senator from the state of Kansas doesn't know what the Patriot Act is.

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Huge trove of Pennsylvania mail-in ballot applications sent by the Trump campaign to individual voters, found destroyed in USPS trailers…

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Declassified CIA memo one of several red flags Russia collusion was a Clinton dirty trick

U.S. intelligence officials say newly declassified CIA referral on Russian intercept just one of several red flares spies sent the FBI on Russia collusion narrative.

... Evidence now made public shows at least 10 separate Clinton allies fed collusion allegations to the FBI in 2016 and early 2017, an avalanche of political pressure aimed at getting agents to investigate Trump during the campaign and after his election win. (emphasis added)

Former FBI general counsel James Baker testified he was acutely aware the bureau had been inundated with unverified allegations of Trump-Russia collusion from Clinton associates in what amounted to a disturbing pressure campaign.

"I had a jaundiced eye about everything, yes," Baker told lawmakers. "I had skepticism about all this stuff. I was concerned about all of this. This whole situation was horrible, and it was novel and we were trying to figure out what to do, and it was highly unusual."...

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Complete list of the LIES told by Kommiemala Harris in the VEEP debate

WAY too lengthy to repost here; follow the hotlink in the headline to read them all.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

No matter how you slice it Covid-19 is still a Corona virus and the hydroxychloroquine would still be effective based on hundreds of Drs prescribing it to their patients and they were having 98-100% cure rate. I will look to see if I can find a link to one of these Drs. And Trump was taking Hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic when he came out and said Hydroxychloroquine works. However, you can’t stay on it for long periods of time as I’m sure it gets toxic, and based on how fast Trump recovered from this virus I would bet money that he took it in Walter Reed. Not sure what he said he took but the vaccine isn’t ready yet and I highly doubt he would be a guinea pig to test it. Even Chris Cuomo from CNN took it when he got it but he took the more toxic version Chloroquine (of course you never heard that on the media).

"Fact check: Chloroquine/SARS study does not prove hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness against COVID-19"

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKCN2512A7

Tell me this....

If hydroxychloroquine was effective against Covid-19...
Then why have over 1,000,000 people died worldwide?
Then why have 148,000 people died in Brazil where they are actively using hydroxychloroquine?

Do you really think pretty much all the governments in the world are refusing to use a proven cure?
And if so... why are they refusing to use the cure?
Is it all a plot by the entire world (except Brazil) to get rid of Trump?

And as for what Trump is taking...
All the president's medicine: How doctors are treating Donald Trump
Hydroxychloroquine is not on the list.

And trust me... Trump would absolutely love to claim he took it to cure him.

[Madcox]

Here is a link of several Drs. First video is 44 mins long but it has several Drs telling their experience treating patients with Covid-19 with Hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Zpak. You can watch all 6 videos it has some really good info that mainstream media won’t report.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.us/

I tried finding the YouTube videos of these Drs and others but YouTube scrubbed these videos off their platform. I will have to research to find the other videos of more Drs that I watched months ago before being scrubbed.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Here is a link of several Drs. First video is 44 mins long but it has several Drs telling their experience treating patients with Covid-19 with Hydroxychloroquine, zinc and Zpak. You can watch all 6 videos it has some really good info that mainstream media won’t report.

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.us/

I tried finding the YouTube videos of these Drs and others but YouTube scrubbed these videos off their platform. I will have to research to find the other videos of more Drs that I watched months ago before being scrubbed.

With all due respect...
One of those doctors believes in alien sperm and devil babies.
"Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella...oxychloroquine
"She alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments, and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious. And, despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans but by “reptilians” and other aliens."

As far as the whole group of them...
"No Evidence That Doctor Group in Viral Video Got Near COVID 'Front Lines'"
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/87797



These fringe doctors were paraded out by Trump's son I believe.

When 95%+ of science believe in one thing and less then 5% believe in the other...
I'll go with the vast majority.

You are simply posting propaganda put out by their own association.

YouTube scrubbed them precisely because they are spreading harmful information.

So I will state again:

Tell me this....

If hydroxychloroquine was effective against Covid-19...
Then why have over 1,000,000 people died worldwide?
Then why have 148,000 people died in Brazil where they are actively using hydroxychloroquine?

Do you really think pretty much all the governments in the world are refusing to use a proven cure?
And if so... why are they refusing to use the cure?
Is it all a plot by the entire world (except Brazil) to get rid of Trump?

[Capebuffalo]

I got amped up from the debate, so I apologize if I insulted you or anyone else. Although I think you'd be making a mistake voting for Trump for many many reasons, I have to say from the little I know you, you seem like a smart guy and a good guy. My response was not directed at anyone here but Beetlegeuse constantly peddles far-right conspiracies and half-truths while insulting "the lefties" or "demoncrats." I don't even come on here much, but I was curious if anyone mentioned the debates and got sucked into responding. Every post Beet makes is inflammatory and most of it is skewed or flat out bs. Imagine I made a thread that constantly spread misinformation and attacked the right. This is what it is. This thread should be shut down, if not for anything but the spread of garbage non-truths and far-right propaganda.

You have the right to start a thread with any topic you wish. But keep it civil. You also have the right to not visit this thread if it offends you. It’s freedom of speech and the freedom to choose for yourself.

[SampsonandDelilah]

You have the right to start a thread with any topic you wish. But keep it civil. You also have the right to not visit this thread if it offends you. It’s freedom of speech and the freedom to choose for yourself.

Took the words right out of my mouth. You know what you’re walking into when you step inside of this thread. We can all agree to disagree we just need to do it civilly.

I just like hearing from both sides and this is just an interesting lens to view the juxtaposition on rhetoric

[Capebuffalo]

Took the words right out of my mouth. You know what you’re walking into when you step inside of this thread. We can all agree to disagree we just need to do it civilly.

I just like hearing from both sides and this is just an interesting lens to view the juxtaposition on rhetoric

Absolutely. Opposing opinions are a good thing. Unfortunately they have been vilified. Everyone cannot have the same opinion and you can’t force your opinion on others. If you can listen without interrupting or talking over the person you may learn something. Or have a civil debate on the issue. That is called a productive member of society.

[Test Monsterone]

You have the right to start a thread with any topic you wish. But keep it civil. You also have the right to not visit this thread if it offends you. It’s freedom of speech and the freedom to choose for yourself.

Like how Beetlegeuse mentions "Demoncrats" and "Hitlery?" Is that civil to you? More than half of this country is democratic. This is a public forum. We're all going to see what we post. I consider his rhetoric inflammatory and disrespectful. I don't have respect for anyone touting lies and BS as facts. Not going to apologize for that. Nothing good came out of this presidency, but all we hear about is how awful libs are... sure, I got it, fair and balanced.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Poll: Majority of Americans Fear Post-Election Civil War

A poll of a selection of U.S. voters found 56 percent of respondents said they expect to see “an increase in violence as a result of the election” amongst other reservations about the election results just weeks before Election Day.

When asked about just what sort of violence they expected to see, those polled responded with “riots,” “looting,” “burning” as some of their predictions. “Trashing of cities” was another response.

The YouGov poll was completed between October 1 – 2, 2020 and used 1,503 respondents.

It followed another poll released October 1 that found 61 percent of Americans agree with the concern the U.S. could be on the verge of another Civil War.

Additionally, 52 percent of consumers have also stockpiled food or essential goods in anticipation of social unrest tied to a resurgence of coronavirus in the coming months and/ or the election.

The responses follow a tumultuous summer of street riots across America led by left-wing political agitators....

I agree...
A civil war may be coming...
But it will come from the far right...

F.B.I. Says Michigan Anti-Government Group Plotted to Kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
Authorities charged 13 men, some of whom were accused of plotting to storm the State Capitol building and planning to start a civil war.

Officials Call Plot to Kidnap Michigan Governor ‘Elaborate’
Authorities in Michigan announced that six men were arrested and accused of plotting with a militia group to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
“Our efforts uncovered elaborate plans to endanger the lives of law enforcement officers, government officials and the broader public. A multifront operation to apprehend the suspects in question was carefully coordinated and skillfully executed, resulting, very fortunately, in no casualties.” “Last night, the F.B.I. and Michigan State Police arrested six individuals charged in a federal complaint with conspiring to kidnap the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer. According to the complaint unsealed this morning, Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta conspired to kidnap the governor from her vacation home in the Western District of Michigan before the November election. All of us standing here today want the public to know that federal and state law enforcement are committed to working together to make sure violent extremists never succeed with their plans, particularly when they target our duly-elected leaders.”

Authorities in Michigan charged 13 men with a battery of terrorism and conspiracy charges on Thursday, revealing what they said were plans by anti-government extremists to storm the State Capitol building, initiate a civil war to cause society to crumble and kidnap the Michigan governor ahead of the presidential election.

At least six of the men had talked about taking Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, hostage since the summer, according to a criminal complaint filed in federal court and unsealed on Thursday. The men met over the summer for firearms training and combat drills and tried to make explosives; they also gathered several times to discuss the mission, including in the basement of a shop in Michigan that was accessible only through a “trap door” under a rug, the F.B.I. said.

The men had surveilled Ms. Whitmer’s vacation home in August and September, and they indicated that they wanted to take her hostage before the election in November, Richard J. Trask II, an F.B.I. special agent, said in the criminal complaint. In July, one of the men said the group should take Ms. Whitmer hostage and move her to a “secure location” in Wisconsin for a “trial,” Mr. Trask said.

He said the F.B.I. believed the men were planning to buy explosives this week for their plot. Court records indicated that at least five of the men had been arrested on Wednesday in Ypsilanti, Mich.; it was not immediately clear if the sixth man had been taken into the custody.

The state charged an additional seven men, all from Michigan, with providing material support for terrorist activities, being members of a gang and using firearms while committing felonies. The men were said to be affiliated with the Wolverine Watchmen, an extremist group, and have been charged with state crimes, which carry penalties of two to 20 years in prison.

Dana Nessel, the Michigan attorney general, said in a news conference that she was particularly disturbed by messages from politicians that she claimed may have contributed to the violent plot.

“I have watched and have seen and listened over the course of these many months and when we hear the president say, ‘liberate Michigan’ or, ‘there are very fine people on both sides,’ these are not just subtle winks or dog whistles, these are messages to people who want to do harm,” she said. “These are commands to action.”


ImageRoads leading to the Governor’s Mansion in Lansing were blocked off on Thursday.
Roads leading to the Governor’s Mansion in Lansing were blocked off on Thursday.Credit...Matthew Dae Smith/Lansing State Journal, via Associated Press
The F.B.I. said it had learned about the six men it charged by intercepting encrypted messages the men had sent and because it had undercover agents and confidential informants working with the group.


Those six men were charged with conspiracy to commit kidnapping, which can carry a life sentence. Their names were listed in court documents as Adam Fox, Kaleb Franks, Brandon Caserta, Ty Garbin, Daniel Harris and Barry Croft. Mr. Croft lives in Delaware and the other five live in Michigan, the authorities said. No lawyers were immediately listed for the men.

The authorities said that Mr. Fox and Mr. Croft had decided to “unite others” to “take violent action” against state governments that they thought were violating the Constitution and that Mr. Fox was the one to initiate contact with a Michigan-based anti-government group. The F.B.I. said he had talked of storming the Michigan statehouse with 200 men and trying Ms. Whitmer for treason.

Brian Titus, the owner of a vacuum store in Grand Rapids, Mich., said that he had hired Mr. Fox, whom he had known since childhood, and even given him a place to stay in the store’s basement after he was kicked out of his girlfriend’s home. Mr. Titus said the store was raided on Wednesday.

“I felt sorry for him but I didn’t know he was capable of doing this; this is almost insane,” Mr. Titus said in an interview. “I knew he was in a militia, but there’s a lot of people in a militia that don’t plan to kidnap the governor. I mean, give me a break.”

Ms. Whitmer has been the subject of attack from right-wing protesters for measures she imposed to control the spread of the coronavirus.

In April, thousands of people gathered at the State Capitol to protest the executive orders she issued shutting down most of the state to help stop the spread of the virus that has now infected more than 145,000 Michiganders and killed more than 7,000.

President Trump openly encouraged such protests, tweeting, “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”

The protests featured some signs with swastikas, Confederate flags and language that advocated violence against Ms. Whitmer, including one man who carried a doll with brown hair hanging from a noose. Many in the crowd carried semiautomatic weapons, leading some Democrats in the Legislature to call for a ban on guns in the Capitol.

Republicans in the Legislature sued Ms. Whitmer in May over the executive orders and opponents of her lockdown orders filed petitions with more than 500,000 signatures with the secretary of state last week to repeal the law that gives governors authority to declare emergencies during times of a public health crisis. The Michigan Supreme Court ruled last week that her use of the 1945 law was unconstitutional.

Michigan has a long history of anti-government activity. A group known as the Michigan Militia dates back to the early 1990s, when Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, later convicted of carrying out the Oklahoma City bombing attack in 1995 that killed 168 people, attended a few of its early meetings. It resurfaced again around 2008 and 2009, with the election of Barack Obama as president.

More recently, armed groups of men began appearing at some demonstrations, most notably the 2017 march by white nationalists in Charlottesville, Va.

The upheavals in 2020 provided new impetus for militia groups to move from the online world onto the streets. During protests against the virus lockdowns, they accused the government of “overreach,” suggesting that business closings and mask mandates were forms of tyranny. That initial scattered presence mushroomed with the nationwide protests over social justice after George Floyd died at the hands of police in May. When some protests degenerated into arson and looting, militiamen appeared on the streets, saying that they were there to protect homes and businesses that law enforcement could not.

But some groups fervently opposed to the government in general and especially law enforcement claimed that they mobilized to protect protesters from officers.

Experts in the field have been worried about greater violence fomented by militias in the weeks before and after the Nov. 3 elections, especially since Mr. Trump has repeatedly suggested that his opponents might be trying to steal the election.

Many groups in the “patriot” movement have adopted the name militia, even if they do not fit the definition. According to experts, a militia trains together, has an established hierarchy and specific rules of engagement. Although the 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to bear arms and mentions a “well-regulated militia,” all 50 states have some manner of prohibition against private paramilitary groups.

In response to the charges on Thursday, Mike Shirkey, the Republican majority leader in the State Senate, wrote on Twitter that a “threat against our Governor is a threat against us all” and called the men accused of the conspiracy “traitors.”

“We condemn those who plotted against her and our government,” he wrote. “They are not patriots. There is no honor in their actions.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/08/u...4f3813bfa5ec3b

[Test Monsterone]

Absolutely. Opposing opinions are a good thing. Unfortunately they have been vilified. Everyone cannot have the same opinion and you can’t force your opinion on others. If you can listen without interrupting or talking over the person you may learn something. Or have a civil debate on the issue. That is called a productive member of society.

How ironic... Have you watched the first debate? All Trump does is constantly interrupt Biden during his turn to talk. That's why he doesn't want to do the debate remotely, because they can cut him off and he won't be able to interrupt Biden like he did before. I'm not sure what civil debate we can expect when our own president is the exact opposite of civil in a debate.

[tarmyg]

How ironic... Have you watched the first debate? All Trump does is constantly interrupt Biden during his turn to talk. That's why he doesn't want to do the debate remotely, because they can cut him off and he won't be able to interrupt Biden like he did before. I'm not sure what civil debate we can expect when our own president is the exact opposite of civil in a debate.

I think Cape is talking about how we behave on this forum. Pretty hard for us to control pretty much anything else.

[SampsonandDelilah]

Remember we all have the power not to click on the link...

When we do, just remember what you’re clicking and although you vehemently disagree just do so without making it a personal attack

[Madcox]

"Fact check: Chloroquine/SARS study does not prove hydroxychloroquine’s effectiveness against COVID-19"

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKCN2512A7

Tell me this....

If hydroxychloroquine was effective against Covid-19...
Then why have over 1,000,000 people died worldwide?
Then why have 148,000 people died in Brazil where they are actively using hydroxychloroquine?

Do you really think pretty much all the governments in the world are refusing to use a proven cure?
And if so... why are they refusing to use the cure?
Is it all a plot by the entire world (except Brazil) to get rid of Trump?

And as for what Trump is taking...
All the president's medicine: How doctors are treating Donald Trump
Hydroxychloroquine is not on the list.

And trust me... Trump would absolutely love to claim he took it to cure him.

Whether you believe it or not I will say yes it is a plot that pretty much all governments are in on and the main point is they want to pump so much fear into the world where people will want to take a vaccine that will kill millions and the ones that don’t die will be easily controlled. Now hear me out before calling me completely crazy , but there are a small group of oligarchs that control most of the politicians in most if not all countries by way of blackmail. You can call them the puppet masters. Hahaha I know I can hear it now I’m a “Conspiracy Theorist” . Seriously if you keep an open mind and really research there are lots of sources that explain all that is going on and you won’t find it on main streamed media not even fox. There is a reason that they call it programming. They spew out what they want the people to believe and they do it with repetition (why the CIA called it project mockingbird). I know there will be some or possibly lots that won’t believe it and i admit, before my eyes were open I thought it was crazy. But once your eyes have been opened there is no way you can’t unsee what is going on in this world. Not using Hydroxychloroquine is on purpose to escalate the numbers to cause mass panic. I’m not sure about Brazil, but i know i heard about countries like Vietnam where Hydroxychloroquine is given out regularly for malaria that the cases and deaths are near zero. Also, This next vaccine will be an RNA vaccine (which has never been done before) where it will add a new strand of DNA with ours therefore genetically modifying us. They have been working on RNA vaccines for close to 20 years and the results haven’t faired well with the lab animals at all. Not sure how everyone stands on vaccines but I would suggest not taking it. Every vaccine has MRC-5 (human fetal tissue from aborted babies), thermerasol (mercury based preservative), are loaded with aluminum. US is number 1 in the world with our babies dying the very first day after birth because newborn babies get a Hepatitis B vaccine right after birth! Why? I don’t know any newborns that will be having unprotected sex and sharing needles with anyone. They don’t even have an immune system yet! Crazy!
Early in Trumps presidency he wasn’t keen on vaccines and notice how he always mentions therapeutics now. And if he wasn’t talking about vaccines then the media would say he wasn’t doing anything to get rid of “The Rona”

I’m really not crazy fellas and we don’t have to agree on everything. Everyone has a right to believe what they want and I’m in no way saying you have to believe what I say. I’m just putting out what I have researched and found. I would just like everyone to keep an open mind and question everything and research for yourself and find answers. Just glad we have a great forum where we can discuss what we like and even some stuff we don’t like y’all have a Great Day Brothers!