Austinite's Fat Loss Protocol using Over the Counter Products.

**ac guy** · 08-10-2013, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

not all synephrine from amazon is the same. Not really sure what your question is ac, can you rephrase or elaborate?

No question, just letting people know not to be a dumbass like me. And Its Read The Fvcking Instructions lol

**DCI** · 08-12-2013, 10:56 AM

So nearly a week in. This morning I woke up feeling great had a great sleep etc

So went into the toilet to take the morning piss walked past the mirror and had to stop and look at myself twice.

When I looked in the mirror my abs and the rest of me seemed leaner and even this evening I looked again and it still the same

so this really does work its great

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by DCI

So nearly a week in. This morning I woke up feeling great had a great sleep etc

So went into the toilet to take the morning piss walked past the mirror and had to stop and look at myself twice.

When I looked in the mirror my abs and the rest of me seemed leaner and even this evening I looked again and it still the same

so this really does work its great

That is the best feeling in the world. I love hearing this, talk about motivational! Thanks for sharing, DCI!

**-KJ-** · 08-12-2013, 11:08 AM

Hey austinite, quick question.

Checked a couple places for the synephrine and cant come across it. I did check amazon too like you mentioned (I think). Anywhere I should be checking?

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by -KJ-

Hey austinite, quick question.

Checked a couple places for the synephrine and cant come across it. I did check amazon too like you mentioned (I think). Anywhere I should be checking?

Hey buddy, try this...

Amazon.com: 10 Grams (0.35 Oz) Synephrine HCL 99% (Bitter Orange Extract) (Citrus Aurantium Extract) Bulk Powder: Health & Personal Care

**-KJ-** · 08-12-2013, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

Hey buddy, try this...

Amazon.com: 10 Grams (0.35 Oz) Synephrine HCL 99% (Bitter Orange Extract) (Citrus Aurantium Extract) Bulk Powder: Health & Personal Care

Much appreciated. Will be ordering this and once I start ill keep you informed.

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 11:26 AM

Keep us posted, KJ!

**DCI** · 08-12-2013, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

That is the best feeling in the world. I love hearing this, talk about motivational! Thanks for sharing, DCI!

Your welcome I am taking pics weekly so hopefully the change can be shown when I am finally at my goal weight etc I'll do a big write up

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 11:39 AM

You're next, KJ! go KJ, go KJ!

**-KJ-** · 08-12-2013, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

You're next, KJ! go KJ, go KJ!

lol, as soon as I start ill post here. maybe two three weeks though as soon as i get into a clear consistent run on my diet.

Just a question, and im not questioning the dosages at all mate but how did you come up with them? Is it just trial and error from your own experience mate?

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by -KJ-

lol, as soon as I start ill post here. maybe two three weeks though as soon as i get into a clear consistent run on my diet.

Just a question, and im not questioning the dosages at all mate but how did you come up with them? Is it just trial and error from your own experience mate?

Exactly. Trial and error coupled with science from studies.

**DCI** · 08-12-2013, 02:26 PM

Aust I'll buy you a protein bar when I'm in Austin for the gp lol.

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 02:29 PM

LMAO! I'll take it if it's laced with Synephrine!!

**-KJ-** · 08-12-2013, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Exactly. Trial and error coupled with science from studies.

Cool! As I said it would be a waste to take it now but in the next two weeks my diet will be back on par after my vacation and it will be added to my list of supplements

Although reading your supplement post I may rethink that and focus more on key vitamins in high doses rather than all vitamins at minimum doses. Keeping a multi in there of course.

**DCI** · 08-12-2013, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

LMAO! I'll take it if it's laced with Synephrine!!

No bother, I'll provide the bar you get the syneph lol

**ichad** · 08-12-2013, 04:02 PM

Great read!! Time to shop for these products.

Aust. You mention at beginning of thread losing over 5 lbs. in. 30 days. Have you continued using this. And if so how much more weight have you lost?

**austinite** · 08-12-2013, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by ichad

Great read!! Time to shop for these products.

Aust. You mention at beginning of thread losing over 5 lbs. in. 30 days. Have you continued using this. And if so how much more weight have you lost?

I did lose more weight, but I took a longer break from it and discontinued many supplements in hopes to narrow down a Vitamin D deficiency issue. Sorry, don't have numbers for you beyond the original post and have not gotten a bodpod assessment since.

**ichad** · 08-12-2013, 04:39 PM

No worries. Curious that's all. I found the products on amazon.com but won't ship to Canada. Must be the synephrine. Might be hard to find here. Amazon.ca doesn't carry it. Will keep looking.

**ichad** · 08-13-2013, 10:58 AM

Actually. I took the synephrine out of the amazon Oder and still wouldn't ship so I guess one or both of the other two. I put the synephrine buy itself and accepted it. So I will be good to go

**FONZY007** · 08-13-2013, 01:01 PM

Synephrine fights fatby Jeff S. Volek, Ph.D., R.D.

Weight loss supplements often contain a variety of compounds promoted as thermogenics, which simply means they raise your metabolic rate. Synephrine is a nutrient isolated from peels of immature fruits. The most common source of synephrine is bitter orange extract derived from Citrus aurantium. Chemically, synephrine is very similar to adrenaline (or epinephrine). Synephrine stimulates both a-adrenergic and ß-adrenergic receptors in the body. Studies have shown synephrine specifically stimulates ß3-adrenergic receptors, which regulate fat breakdown, whereas stimulation of ß1-and ß2-adrenergic receptors is linked with cardiac effects. Thus, synephrine is expected to be associated with less stimulation of heart rate and blood pressure while still promoting fat breakdown and thermogenesis. In order to evaluate how much synephrine raises metabolic rate, researchers tested its effect alone and with other potentially synergistic compounds, hesperidin and naringin, present in Citrus aurantium. They had subjects consume different combinations of synephrine, hesperidin and naringin and monitored metabolic rate, heart rate and blood pressure 75 minutes after ingestion. Ingestion of 50 mg of synephrine alone increased metabolic rate by 35 kcal. When the same amount of synephrine was combined with 600mg naringin, metabolic rate increased 99 kcal. The addition of 100 mg of hesperidin raised metabolic rate even further (+153 kcal). Importantly there were no changes in heart rate or blood pressure with any of the combinations of nutrients. These findings are consistent with stimulatory effects of synephrine on metabolism, but not the cardiovascular system.

Reference: Int J Med Sci. 2011 Apr 28;8(4):295-301

**-KJ-** · 08-13-2013, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

Synephrine fights fatby Jeff S. Volek, Ph.D., R.D.

Weight loss supplements often contain a variety of compounds promoted as thermogenics, which simply means they raise your metabolic rate. Synephrine is a nutrient isolated from peels of immature fruits. The most common source of synephrine is bitter orange extract derived from Citrus aurantium. Chemically, synephrine is very similar to adrenaline (or epinephrine). Synephrine stimulates both a-adrenergic and ß-adrenergic receptors in the body. Studies have shown synephrine specifically stimulates ß3-adrenergic receptors, which regulate fat breakdown, whereas stimulation of ß1-and ß2-adrenergic receptors is linked with cardiac effects. Thus, synephrine is expected to be associated with less stimulation of heart rate and blood pressure while still promoting fat breakdown and thermogenesis. In order to evaluate how much synephrine raises metabolic rate, researchers tested its effect alone and with other potentially synergistic compounds, hesperidin and naringin, present in Citrus aurantium. They had subjects consume different combinations of synephrine, hesperidin and naringin and monitored metabolic rate, heart rate and blood pressure 75 minutes after ingestion. Ingestion of 50 mg of synephrine alone increased metabolic rate by 35 kcal. When the same amount of synephrine was combined with 600mg naringin, metabolic rate increased 99 kcal. The addition of 100 mg of hesperidin raised metabolic rate even further (+153 kcal). Importantly there were no changes in heart rate or blood pressure with any of the combinations of nutrients. These findings are consistent with stimulatory effects of synephrine on metabolism, but not the cardiovascular system.

Reference: Int J Med Sci. 2011 Apr 28;8(4):295-301

Interesting read! Cheers fonzy

**Brazensol** · 08-13-2013, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

Synephrine fights fatby Jeff S. Volek, Ph.D., R.D.

Weight loss supplements often contain a variety of compounds promoted as thermogenics, which simply means they raise your metabolic rate. Synephrine is a nutrient isolated from peels of immature fruits. The most common source of synephrine is bitter orange extract derived from Citrus aurantium. Chemically, synephrine is very similar to adrenaline (or epinephrine). Synephrine stimulates both a-adrenergic and ß-adrenergic receptors in the body. Studies have shown synephrine specifically stimulates ß3-adrenergic receptors, which regulate fat breakdown, whereas stimulation of ß1-and ß2-adrenergic receptors is linked with cardiac effects. Thus, synephrine is expected to be associated with less stimulation of heart rate and blood pressure while still promoting fat breakdown and thermogenesis. In order to evaluate how much synephrine raises metabolic rate, researchers tested its effect alone and with other potentially synergistic compounds, hesperidin and naringin, present in Citrus aurantium. They had subjects consume different combinations of synephrine, hesperidin and naringin and monitored metabolic rate, heart rate and blood pressure 75 minutes after ingestion. Ingestion of 50 mg of synephrine alone increased metabolic rate by 35 kcal. When the same amount of synephrine was combined with 600mg naringin, metabolic rate increased 99 kcal. The addition of 100 mg of hesperidin raised metabolic rate even further (+153 kcal). Importantly there were no changes in heart rate or blood pressure with any of the combinations of nutrients. These findings are consistent with stimulatory effects of synephrine on metabolism, but not the cardiovascular system.

Reference: Int J Med Sci. 2011 Apr 28;8(4):295-301

Austinite - any thoughts on this combo?

**austinite** · 08-13-2013, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Brazensol

Austinite - any thoughts on this combo?

Not an experienced opinion. Both are bioflavonoids and antioxidants. I'd really have to research them but sounds promising from the excerpt above.

**FONZY007** · 08-13-2013, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Not an experienced opinion. Both are bioflavonoids and antioxidants. I'd really have to research them but sounds promising from the excerpt above.

Also I noticed how high the synephrine is 50mgs.

What is everyone else taking? 10-30mgs?

**austinite** · 08-13-2013, 03:30 PM

Yeah I've taken up to 60mg. You certainly don't want to overdo Synephrine. Like ephedrine, more is not always better.

**FONZY007** · 08-13-2013, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yeah I've taken up to 60mg. You certainly don't want to overdo Synephrine. Like ephedrine, more is not always better.

K thanks..

**Brazensol** · 08-13-2013, 06:13 PM

Cycle 2 Day 23 update: 175 pounds @ 16.6% bf. I am going to the bod pod tomorrow to see what bf really is. Still dropping both weight and fat but it is getting more difficult. I am hoping my scale is now reading high but it was about 1% low on the last bod pod so we shall see.

**FONZY007** · 08-13-2013, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Brazensol

Cycle 2 Day 23 update: 175 pounds @ 16.6% bf. I am going to the bod pod tomorrow to see what bf really is. Still dropping both weight and fat but it is getting more difficult. I am hoping my scale is now reading high but it was about 1% low on the last bod pod so we shall see.

Do you take everything before gym? Also do you take everything even on none work out days?

See I'm the endo morph can put on mass easy and fat even easier lol

**Brazensol** · 08-13-2013, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by FONZY007

Do you take everything before gym? Also do you take everything even on none work out days?

See I'm the endo morph can put on mass easy and fat even easier lol

I take it every day while on the 30 day cycle. I bike most everyday, fasted cardio, at 7:00 am. I take the fat burn stack about 30 minutes before I start. I ride for up to 90 minutes (except leg day), come home eat breakfast and then hit the gym for lifting on M-T-Th-F. Sometimes (maybe 1 or 2 times a week) I will take 1 scoop of synephrine in the afternoon but it has been awhile since I did that. I did it more often on my first cycle when I would ride again in the evening.

**FONZY007** · 08-13-2013, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Brazensol

I take it every day while on the 30 day cycle. I bike most everyday, fasted cardio, at 7:00 am. I take the fat burn stack about 30 minutes before I start. I ride for up to 90 minutes (except leg day), come home eat breakfast and then hit the gym for lifting on M-T-Th-F. Sometimes (maybe 1 or 2 times a week) I will take 1 scoop of synephrine in the afternoon but it has been awhile since I did that. I did it more often on my first cycle when I would ride again in the evening.

Thanks!!

**austinite** · 08-14-2013, 03:14 PM

Braz, go back to what "worked" successfully.

**Brazensol** · 08-14-2013, 03:19 PM

Bod Pod results are in! Drum roll please..... 13.4% bf @ 177 pounds! To say the least I was shocked when he told me. I was hoping for mid 16's thinking I would be very pleased with that.

Perhaps better yet my lean body mass has increased almost 13 pounds since last July. It has gone up 7.6 pounds in the last 110 days. Surprised me since I thought I was losing all kinds of muscle mass with the fasted cardio and cutting diet.

Funny thing is he had me stay in it while he ran the test three times. When I asked why, he told me while it is somewhat unusual to see people lose body fat at the rate I did it is very unusual to see people actually gain lbm at the rate I did at the same time. Same result all three times! Hard work does pay off.

I know this fat burn stack had a lot to do with it Austinite so thanks again!

**austinite** · 08-14-2013, 03:23 PM

OHHHHHHHHHH

MYYYYYY

GODDDDD!

BRAZ!!!!!!!!! WOW WOW WOW!!! I'm actually super happy right now. This is outstanding progress! Thanks for maintaining this log man. Stack may have helped but the important thing for EVERYONE to understand is that NOTHING works without hard work and consistency. Stack is merely an aid.

Great job, Braz. Truly a motivation that everyone should observe.

**Brazensol** · 08-14-2013, 03:32 PM

Thanks for the kind words Austinite! I'm so excited I didn't even have my afternoon crash... lol. And that's saying something.

**gearbox** · 08-14-2013, 03:41 PM

Congrats man. That's awesome progress!

**ChiveOn** · 08-14-2013, 03:41 PM

Been in it with the EGCG and the chromium Picolinate but just ordered the synephrine today. Recommend starting around 30-40mg?
Also I'm on and off the clen /keto combo. Would you suggest not mixing clen with the synephrine?
I'm pretty good with stims. Drink a ton of monster and I get little to no sides from clen until I hit 180-200mcg which is more than needs anyway

**austinite** · 08-14-2013, 03:47 PM

yeah I would avoid clen /syn combo.

**crazy mike** · 08-14-2013, 04:50 PM

Hey Braz man, crazy here. Just saw the posts and want to say congrats dude. Keep it up.

...crazy mike

**DCI** · 08-14-2013, 04:57 PM

I am seeing a daily change, I think I am loosing it as I never had something work so fast. Its crazy as I said I have weekly pics but man this is better than any fat burner I have bought and cheaper too.

And I am not even using the syn. Honestly Aust yourself the monster and kel are by far and away helped more people to get on track on this site

**austinite** · 08-14-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by DCI

I am seeing a daily change, I think I am loosing it as I never had something work so fast. Its crazy as I said I have weekly pics but man this is better than any fat burner I have bought and cheaper too.

And I am not even using the syn. Honestly Aust yourself the monster and kel are by far and away helped more people to get on track on this site

Good to hear man. But i will not accept another member doing better than me!!! I have to deal with Braz kicking my ass with his progress already!!

haha, just kidding. Keep it up buddy!