**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[BG]

try Omeprazole it works great when I get those issues due to the amount I eat.

Is this otc? Or script?

[Hazard]

OK guys I'm having bad issues. My stomach is screwed. Everytime I eat I get indigestion, heart burn and cunvulsive hiccups. It's really bad, I nearly went to the ER on the way to my job site. I got to drop the tren for sure but I have to stop the hiccups my chest hurts so bad. I took a Zantac, all I could get at 7-Eleven. Anybody have suggestions? I'm fuked.

You need to relax the muscle that's causing the hiccups.

Take a deep breath and hold it. Then without exhaling breathe in more and hold. Then without exhaling breathe in more and hold. You want to completely fill up your lungs and relax the small muscle that contracts with hiccups. Hold as long as you can. Repeat a few times of they haven't stopped.

Also..... A cause of hiccups is spicy food.

[BG]

Thanks guys, I ate a nutra-grain bar and it stopped but I'm afraid to put anything else in.

[NACH3]

Is this otc? Or script?

Both! You can get it OTC and stronger in script form

[BG]

Man I am soooooo much better! That was insane I almost broke down. I think the Zantac kicked in, I'm starving but afraid to eat. Can I take Zantac everyday?

[kelkel]

Not up on Zantac but I'd assume it's similar to Prilosec. I take Prilosec (generic) every morning. Couldn't survive without it.

[NACH3]

Not up on Zantac but I'd assume it's similar to Prilosec. I take Prilosec (generic) every morning. Couldn't survive without it.

X2 on that

[BG]

Damn I ate and the hiccups came right back. Unreal

[NACH3]

Back switched up my sequence big time this time(oh and for some reason everyone was doing legs today so switched off to back...

Abs rolling RC ex's

CG pulldowns**new weight**
3 warm up 3 feelers
1w 7 DD(same weight)

Seated long bar rows**new weight**
2 warm ups 1w 8 DD(same weight)

BB Bent over rows(smith)
2warm ups/feeler 1w(275) DD(225) + RP on last drop

Neutral grip hammer rows**new weight** and reps
1w(stacked) DD(same weight)

Low Pully row
1w DD

STRAIGHT ARM PULLDOWNS
2w higher end reps(hurt my shoulder - or was rather uncomfortable)

weighted Hypers
2w higher end reps 25sec in between sets

Weights done in 43min
Good w/o - again all weights on the climb...

[bigdil511]

Back switched up my sequence big time this time(oh and for some reason everyone was doing legs today so switched off to back... Abs rolling RC ex's CG pulldowns**new weight** 3 warm up 3 feelers 1w 7 DD(same weight) Seated long bar rows**new weight** 2 warm ups 1w 8 DD(same weight) BB Bent over rows(smith) 2warm ups/feeler 1w(275) DD(225) + RP on last drop Neutral grip hammer rows**new weight** and reps 1w(stacked) DD(same weight) Low Pully row 1w DD STRAIGHT ARM PULLDOWNS 2w higher end reps(hurt my shoulder - or was rather uncomfortable) weighted Hypers 2w higher end reps 25sec in between sets Weights done in 43min Good w/o - again all weights on the climb...

You have a good substitute for seated long bar rows? Gym has limited equipment.

[BG]

OK so Im dropping the tren -a, if that doesnt help I will drop the tren-e. Sucks monkey balls, I cant even run a small amount of tren. I thought I was going to die today, I havent ate shit since lunch.

[novastepp]

OK so Im dropping the tren-a, if that doesnt help I will drop the tren-e. Sucks monkey balls, I cant even run a small amount of tren. I thought I was going to die today, I havent ate shit since lunch.

Any chance you could have a hiatal hernia? Just trying to think of things that could be aggravating your diaphragm so often.

[Bodacious]

Damn BG! Hope everything gets better for ya man!!
Just now got time to get back on here.(Been busy as hell...) Last two times I been on you been having problems. Hopefully dropping the tren a will help.

Hope everyone else is doing good!!! Busy busy here... I did have a good leg workout in today myself. So that was a plus for me. Then got called straight into work. Anyways here now and had minute and wanted to check in.

[Java Man]

I'm so stressed guys I cant explain it on the open forum and don't want to personally either for reasons some of you know but work is killing me and my own work is over powering me.

Training is good but just did biceps and forearms today but killed them, 3 guys asked me what I was using. I told them to fuk off I'm training, which isn't like me I don't do nastiness but things are on top of me hard.

Back is killing me,
shoulder is fuking murdering me
and my chest workout was like a woman's

Going to have to organise everything in order and deal with the horrible sh1t what comes my way.

In the USA you guys have it soooooo good with your laws fuk me, well done

Hang in there Marcus and don't worry about the mean thing. Asking a person "What are you using" is fvcking rude and deserves a rude response.

[Java Man]

Man I am soooooo much better! That was insane I almost broke down. I think the Zantac kicked in, I'm starving but afraid to eat. Can I take Zantac everyday?

yes you can take Zantac every day. it is Ranitidine. OTC strength in the US goes up to 150mg per dose and the prescription strength goes higher. Zantac 75 is the original strength. 150 is the "Maximum Strength". Both are safe to take daily.

There are 2 main types of long acting pill form antacids like these:
1) H2 Histamine Receptor antagonists (H2 Blockers)
2) Proton Pump Inhibitors (PPI's)

Ranitidine is an H2 Blocker. So is Cimetidine (Tagamet) and Famotidine (Pepcid).

Lansoprazole (Prevacid), Omeprazole (Prilosec), Zegerid , which is a mix of sodium bicarbonate and omeprazole are all PPI's.

All of the above are OTC in the US.

If you are concerned about the long term effects of taking it daily, I'm afraid I can't offer much there. I know much more about PPI's than H2 blockers because I have been taking a PPI for years so it is of great interest to me. From what I do know of the H2 blockers they are also quite safe.

Both types reduce stomach acid long term but by different mechanisms. PPI's seem to work better for me. It depends on the particular cause of your chronic heartburn I suppose which you would want to take. If you only get heartburn occasionally, Tums or Rolaids are better to use since they are short term solutions. H2's and PPI's are more for chronic sufferers. Overproduction of acid can be caused by food or a chronic medical issue. I have a chronic overproduction issue. If you also do I strongly recommend getting a professional analysis of your stomach and esophagus. I don't know if you read my post on this issue to NACH and SFLA but chronic heartburn can be a very serious medical condition that can lead to a host of complications up to and including esophageal carcinoma.

**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Java Man]

OK so Im dropping the tren-a, if that doesnt help I will drop the tren-e. Sucks monkey balls, I cant even run a small amount of tren. I thought I was going to die today, I havent ate shit since lunch.

Does tren always affect you this way or just this time? Some people get almost no sides from Tren and others can't use it at all because of the sides they get. I am in the middle. Night sweats are pretty bad and I get violent mood swings, like I'll rip a door off its hinges and throw it across the room over something that I would normally consider no big deal. It also has a very negative effect on my lipid profile. But others have told me they have no lipid issues, and no mood swings. The only effect that seems to be common to almost everyone is the sweating. I also suffer from a very big drop in endurance. I get winded by the 8th rep of even a light weight and forget about cardio. just walking fast makes me breathe heavy on Tren.

[Java Man]

blah.

[Java Man]

Not up on Zantac but I'd assume it's similar to Prilosec. I take Prilosec (generic) every morning. Couldn't survive without it.

Different drug classes but I think similar is still fair to say. H2 Antagonist vs. PPI but they both accomplish the same goal.

[Java Man]

Ok I get the thread post whore award. last one:

I did end up going to the gym for the second time this week, after a 5 month layoff. I was still a tad sore all over but I did 15 min of cardio and a full body core workout again. Moderate weights. I don't need HIT right now I need to get back to where I was 5 months ago. So far so good. I have gained 11lbs since last Friday. before anyone calls BS on that, who remembers how I looked in late 2012 and how I looked 6 months after that knows I am capable of this. I had a log a few years ago but I asked admin to remove it. Too public. if anyone found out who I am in RL and the things we talk about here could do the math and figure out that I do roids. I have a really good job. I'd like to keep it.

I am up to 8500 calories a day now, about 75% of that clean the rest pizza, ice cream, and other bad stuff I am working on that. No more soda. It's pure sugar and I have been drinking it again. naughty boy. So I have stopped that at least. Just water, 1% milk, and pure juices without syrups. No alcohol either but that's not a problem. I don't drink very often anyways.

I decided not to wait and just go ahead and jump on.

Supps:
Sust, Dbol , T3, Clen , a whole lot of food, a crap load of vitamins and such. The usual ancillaries to keep the bad things from happening.

[Bio-Active]

Ok I get the thread post whore award. last one: I did end up going to the gym for the second time this week, after a 5 month layoff. I was still a tad sore all over but I did 15 min of cardio and a full body core workout again. Moderate weights. I don't need HIT right now I need to get back to where I was 5 months ago. So far so good. I have gained 11lbs since last Friday. before anyone calls BS on that, who remembers how I looked in late 2012 and how I looked 6 months after that knows I am capable of this. I had a log a few years ago but I asked admin to remove it. Too public. if anyone found out who I am in RL and the things we talk about here could do the math and figure out that I do roids. I have a really good job. I'd like to keep it. I am up to 8500 calories a day now, about 75% of that clean the rest pizza, ice cream, and other bad stuff I am working on that. No more soda. It's pure sugar and I have been drinking it again. naughty boy. So I have stopped that at least. Just water, 1% milk, and pure juices without syrups. No alcohol either but that's not a problem. I don't drink very often anyways. I decided not to wait and just go ahead and jump on. Supps: Sust, Dbol, T3, Clen, a whole lot of food, a crap load of vitamins and such. The usual ancillaries to keep the bad things from happening.

8500 calories is a ton. What does the daily food intake look like?

[NACH3]

You have a good substitute for seated long bar rows? Gym has limited equipment.

Do you have a long bar(like for wide grip pulldowns or a D-ring cambered bar)?? If so get a thick strap/or band loop it through a rack or something very stable... Then loop the bar through it... For more tension on the bunjy/or thick strap put a plate then a box in front of the plate to push your feet up against... It's just like a seated row!

That's a good variation as there's constant tension with straps/or band - especially on eccentric part of movement - I would do this if I didn't have a seated cable machine(and pull to nipple line) - slow & controlled & squeeze the hell outta that peak contraction!

[BG]

Does tren always affect you this way or just this time? Some people get almost no sides from Tren and others can't use it at all because of the sides they get. I am in the middle. Night sweats are pretty bad and I get violent mood swings, like I'll rip a door off its hinges and throw it across the room over something that I would normally consider no big deal. It also has a very negative effect on my lipid profile. But others have told me they have no lipid issues, and no mood swings. The only effect that seems to be common to almost everyone is the sweating. I also suffer from a very big drop in endurance. I get winded by the 8th rep of even a light weight and forget about cardio. just walking fast makes me breathe heavy on Tren.

Yes I get it, my wife was just saying the same thing happened to me last time. I have denial issues, after some time I forget what tren does to me and I take it again. I dropped the acetate, haven't eaten, maybe that will give my stomach a chance to come around. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Thanks guys for the encouragement, it helped.

[Sfla80]

Yes I get it, my wife was just saying the same thing happened to me last time. I have denial issues, after some time I forget what tren does to me and I take it again. I dropped the acetate, haven't eaten, maybe that will give my stomach a chance to come around. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Thanks guys for the encouragement, it helped.

Every try... (I'm sure u have) but using NPP instead?

[USVet81]

Man I am soooooo much better! That was insane I almost broke down. I think the Zantac kicked in, I'm starving but afraid to eat. Can I take Zantac everyday?

I called a doctor friend and asked him this question... It's a mixed bag. The manufacturer advises not using it for more than about 2 months and no more than twice per day. On the other side he (doc) has known of some patients who have taken it for years. In that case you should get you liver enzymes checked periodically to make sure you're not running into any issues.

I also pulled the following for you:

Over time, using Zantac can increase the possibility of suffering from pneumonia. Pneumonia symptoms include chest pain, shortness of breath, fever and coughing up colored mucous, according to the Drugs website. Pneumonia is one of the lung infections that long-term use of Zantac can produce. GERD and other reflux conditions can lead to aspiration of food (inhalation), which can lead to such serious lung infections.

When Zantac was used more than a year, a few side effects have been reported in a small number of patients using the OTC Zantac 150. Side effects included blood immunoglobulin e (immune response) and eosinophil (white blood cell) count increases, diarrhea, kidney infections, insomnia, gastritis, migraines and cognitive problems, according to the eHealth Me website.

So is it safe long term. By and large yes. Just have to be aware that some long term sides have been reported in a small percentage of users.

[Java Man]

I called a doctor friend and asked him this question... It's a mixed bag. The manufacturer advises not using it for more than about 2 months and no more than twice per day. On the other side he (doc) has known of some patients who have taken it for years. In that case you should get you liver enzymes checked periodically to make sure you're not running into any issues.

I also pulled the following for you:

Over time, using Zantac can increase the possibility of suffering from pneumonia. Pneumonia symptoms include chest pain, shortness of breath, fever and coughing up colored mucous, according to the Drugs website. Pneumonia is one of the lung infections that long-term use of Zantac can produce. GERD and other reflux conditions can lead to aspiration of food (inhalation), which can lead to such serious lung infections.

When Zantac was used more than a year, a few side effects have been reported in a small number of patients using the OTC Zantac 150. Side effects included blood immunoglobulin e (immune response) and eosinophil (white blood cell) count increases, diarrhea, kidney infections, insomnia, gastritis, migraines and cognitive problems, according to the eHealth Me website.

So is it safe long term. By and large yes. Just have to be aware that some long term sides have been reported in a small percentage of users.

Nice info. It is well known that every drug has a small percentage of users who had odd results in trials and afterwards (after FDA approval and wider usage stats could be compiled) but I am surprised at what those issues were with his class of drug. Interesting. As I said in my earlier post I don't know nearly as much about H2 Antagonists which is what Zantac is. The profile you provided above is much worse than anything I have read on PPI's such as Omeprazole and I find it quite interesting as I never looked into the other side of the coin so to speak as a PPI user rather than a H2B it just isn't something I have researched much.

I take prescribed Omeprazole (Prilosec) and have for more than 5 years, 40mg daily. The FDA allows up to 80mg daily, long term, but does not recommend anything over 60. Omeprazole does not have any warnings such as not for use for more than 2 months, etc. PPI's are specifically indicated for long term use in patients with chronic overproduction. The only potentially negative effect I have read about on PPI's is that they have been shown in some users over long term to have an effect on absorption of certain nutrients but it can be countered with enzymes. it's more complicated than that but the point is PPI's seem to be more user friendly when it comes to long term use whereas the H2B type seems to be more for short term use where the issue is not chronic but is longer term than just "oh I should not have ate that pizza" type situations.

One thing that makes sense to me without doing further research is that it makes sense that a drug that has an antagonistic effect on type 2 Histamine receptors, unless it is VERY selective for only stomach acid production, would have a host of other unwanted sides.

All of this is why it is so important to get a doctor involved if anyone thinks they have an issue. IMO these drugs should not be OTC. If a person finds themselves eating 1000mg Tums tablets like they were candy, they need to go to the doctor who would then decide if they have just an acid overproduction issue, or GERD, or Barrett's or cancer or an ulcer or (insert serious issue I didn't mention here that WebMD can't solve).

Allowing people to buy something as potent and powerful as these drugs without any discussion with a medical professional is just as irresponsible as allowing them to buy steroids to build muscle without first researching WTF they are about to do to their endocrine system. Yet AAS are schedule III and any doctor that prescribes them is under a magnifying glass. Absurd.

[Java Man]

How many average people do you guys think know the difference between Tums, Rolaids, Zantac, and Prilosec? How many do you think know that one of these acts on Histamine receptors? How many people even know what Histamine is unless they have allergies - and even those people most of them probably don't know all of the other things Histamine is responsible for or that there is more than one type of receptor for it, or what a receptor is, or even know that hey HAVE receptors in their bodies? Lmao. It amazes me what the FDA allows to be OTC vs. what they say has to be prescribed. it makes one wonder if the people making these decisions are even medical professionals.

/rant

[Java Man]

8500 calories is a ton. What does the daily food intake look like?

HAHAHAHA I KNEW this was coming!

Here is what I have eaten today so far, and I am not done eating yet. I sleep about 4-5 hours a night. The rest of that time I am working, often from home where I can eat while I type. I eat while I work even at work. nobody tells me I can't eat in my office. I shit you not, I am eating almost every moment of every day. There is always food in front of me. Even now, typing in my bedroom, there is a 64 ounce cup of juice mixed with creatine in front on my left, a box of Nerds (those don't count though), a bag a pretzels, a giant tub of peanuts, and I have a chicken burrito cooking in the microwave that I made with just cooked chicken breasts, raw beans not from a can, onions, cilantro, jalapenos and a tortilla. That's all it is. not some crap I bought at 7-11

Where this says "Vitamins", that is all of my vitamin and whatnot supplements I am not going to list them its the same stuff we all take: 2 or 3 multi-vitamin/mineral tabs, the whole B series notably B3 and B12, C, D, E, F (oops there is no F), Zinc, Magnesium, 4 or 5 giant fish oil gels, creatine, blah blah blah. those aren't calories anyways.

OK here is my food list for today, sometimes I put ~ in front of things because I could only say "a big ass glass": This is a typical day for me when I am bulking.
I drank about a gallon and a half of water so far today. I will hit over 2 gallons before bed.
5:30am: Nothing. I was in bed.

7:00am:
- 5 egg whites
- 3 egg yolks
- 2 cups oatmeal with 1 tbs chunky peanut butter and a smidge of chocolate syrup
- 32oz 1% milk (yes, a quart)

8:15ish
- Tuna sandwich on 12 grain bread (2 slices bread, ~3 oz albacore tuna, 1 teaspoon of mayo, onions)
- 2 eggs (whole)
- ~12oz fresh squeezed tangerine juice
- 3oz of 2% cottage cheese
- 1 English muffin with raisins and cinnamon, probably had sugar in the cinnamon not sure

Between 9am and 11:40am, no fixed meal just eating stuff:
- 2 handfuls of chilil cheese Fritos
- Half gallon of 1% milkm, not quite all of it actually probably about 55oz.
- a handful of Jelly Bellies
- One of those chiken burritos I described, these have about 450 calories in them, approximately.
- 6 or 7 oz of 1% cottage cheese (a little less than half of one of those typical 16oz containers)
- 5 or 6 eggs I don't recall exactly. all of the whites and 2 yolks. i did not eat all of these at once so IDK. 5 or 6 maybe even 7. I keep a dozen in the fridge at work and try to eat all 12 while I'm there every day.

1pm (this is my actual lunch):
- 1 rotisserie chicken from the supermarket deli. All except the bottom nasty parts. Probably about 1.5lbs total of chicken meat. The whole bird wieghed 2.8 lbs. But I didn't eat the bones. Just the breasts, legs, thighs, and wings.
- 5 egg whites
- 1 egg yolk
- 1 lb of potato salad (potatoes, onions, black olives, bell pepper, ~3 tablespoons mayo) probably contained about 2 whole eggs too. there are eggs in it, yolk and whites but I have no clue how many in a pound of it.
- 2 slices Proscuitto (IDK how many calories, it's just smoked ham) probably 100 calories. No bread.
- 1 slice of american cheese, not processed shit from a package, this is deli cheese sliced from a block.
- I ate the rest of the cottage cheese, probably only a few forks full at this point. maybe 1 oz.
- 20oz chocolate milk, 1%
- something else I can't remember what but it's probably inconsequentiial calorie-wise

3:30pm:
- 4 slices of Round Table pepperoni pizza
- Chocolate milk. Probably only about 8oz. 1%.
- Half a head of broccoli dipped in ranch, full ranch, not lite. I like my ranch to have fat in it. tastes better.
- 40oz CACTUS COOLER and COKE!!!! dammit!
- Half of a tuna sandwich, same as the one I ate in the morning ex cept half as many calories.

4:30? somewhere around there:
- half of a chicken breast, small one, maybe 5oz on 2 slices 12 grain bread with lettuce, no mayo or anything
- handfull of chili cheese fritos
- still drinking that coke form above, so dont add any colories

6pm ish
- I ate 3 more eggs. 3 whites, 1 yolk.

9:30pm: I have not eaten this yet but I am cooking it. it is my dinner and will be eaten.
- 1.2 lb prime ribeye, grilled on a BBQ, boneless. This is 1.2lbs of red meat. I am a carnivore.
- 1 huge baked potato also grilled, 2 tbs sour cream, the fat kind not lite, chives. This potato is probably 10oz. it is about as big as a bottle of water, not wuite as long but a lot fatter.
- 6 oz. asparagus spears, fresh, with butter and garlic.
- 3oz fresh spinach
- 40 oz chocolate milk, roughly. More than 32, not more than 40. Maybe just the quart IDK yet. 1%

I will eat 2 or 3 more times before bed. Probably a few more eggs, maybe another tuna sandwich, a few more slices of ham, a few slices of toast, i might fry some eggs instead of eatign them HB as I get sick of HB eggs sometimes.

I will eat another 2k cal by 1am. Then I will go to bed. Repeat tomorrow. I don't eat the same things every day, like instead of a chicken I may have 2 foot-long subway turkey or chicken sandwiches but I try to keep the calorie and ratios the same every day. i know I am eating too much fat. I am getting more than enough protein but not by ratio. I think the last time I did figures it was about 25% P, 40% C, 35% FAT but when protein has 4 calories per gram and C/F both have 9, how in the hell can I eat this many calories and get my ideal 40/40/20 ratios?

I did not count the calories here. I am guesstimating 8000-9000. Am I wrong? Remember that I will eat at least another 2k cal before I go to bed at 1am,. I may even be up until like 3am and be back up by 7 again. that is normal for me. I go through more than a gallon of milk per day. I eat more than a dozen eggs per day. I eat at least one 16 oz container of 2% cottage cheese daily. Those 3 things I always make it a point to make sure I do no matter what.

[Java Man]

Oh yeah and I ate that burrito that was in the microwave about an hour ago, while prepping my steak for the BBQ. So add that in.

EDIT: I just remembered what I ate that I wrote I couldn't remember, around lunch time. A banana.

[Java Man]

Yes I get it, my wife was just saying the same thing happened to me last time. I have denial issues, after some time I forget what tren does to me and I take it again. I dropped the acetate, haven't eaten, maybe that will give my stomach a chance to come around. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

Thanks guys for the encouragement, it helped.

Glad to hear it BG and you know better! Being big is never worth dying for and not worth feeling like shit over. I know what you're doing. We all do it. Tren is magical. You want it. You try to pretend it agrees with you because dammit it's right there and it works such magic! So you take it and try to rationalize that it won't happen this time. This time will be different. And when it is happening, we still ignore it.

It's not that. It's just that I don't feel good today. it's not the tren. it's not!

but we know we are lying to ourselves. That is the sick part. We still do it.

[almostgone]

supperset squats with weighted lunges 3 sets to hell.

single leg extension - 3 sets

lying leg curls - 3 sets

standing calve raises - 3 sets
seated calve raises - 3 sets

No HIT today lower back hurt to much

used a baseball to break down the tissue around the glutes and back,

It is really hard to beat using a baseball or softball to get down into the knotted tissue. I use my rumble roller a good bit and of course go see the cute girl that does the deep tissue work, but something about the small contact area of a baseball and being able to roll it around just does the trick.
It has almost been a 3 step process lately: rumble roller, then the wife works the area with a softball, and finishes it off by rolling the area with a rolling pin. It usually bruises a little, but the relief from the muscle spasms/knots is well worth it.

[almostgone]

HAHAHAHA I KNEW this was coming!

Here is what I have eaten today so far, and I am not done eating yet. I sleep about 4-5 hours a night. The rest of that time I am working, often from home where I can eat while I type. I eat while I work even at work. nobody tells me I can't eat in my office. I shit you not, I am eating almost every moment of every day. There is always food in front of me. Even now, typing in my bedroom, there is a 64 ounce cup of juice mixed with creatine in front on my left, a box of Nerds (those don't count though), a bag a pretzels, a giant tub of peanuts, and I have a chicken burrito cooking in the microwave that I made with just cooked chicken breasts, raw beans not from a can, onions, cilantro, jalapenos and a tortilla. That's all it is. not some crap I bought at 7-11

Where this says "Vitamins", that is all of my vitamin and whatnot supplements I am not going to list them its the same stuff we all take: 2 or 3 multi-vitamin/mineral tabs, the whole B series notably B3 and B12, C, D, E, F (oops there is no F), Zinc, Magnesium, 4 or 5 giant fish oil gels, creatine, blah blah blah. those aren't calories anyways.

OK here is my food list for today, sometimes I put ~ in front of things because I could only say "a big ass glass": This is a typical day for me when I am bulking.
I drank about a gallon and a half of water so far today. I will hit over 2 gallons before bed.
5:30am: Nothing. I was in bed.

7:00am:
- 5 egg whites
- 3 egg yolks
- 2 cups oatmeal with 1 tbs chunky peanut butter and a smidge of chocolate syrup
- 32oz 1% milk (yes, a quart)

8:15ish
- Tuna sandwich on 12 grain bread (2 slices bread, ~3 oz albacore tuna, 1 teaspoon of mayo, onions)
- 2 eggs (whole)
- ~12oz fresh squeezed tangerine juice
- 3oz of 2% cottage cheese
- 1 English muffin with raisins and cinnamon, probably had sugar in the cinnamon not sure

Between 9am and 11:40am, no fixed meal just eating stuff:
- 2 handfuls of chilil cheese Fritos
- Half gallon of 1% milkm, not quite all of it actually probably about 55oz.
- a handful of Jelly Bellies
- One of those chiken burritos I described, these have about 450 calories in them, approximately.
- 6 or 7 oz of 1% cottage cheese (a little less than half of one of those typical 16oz containers)
- 5 or 6 eggs I don't recall exactly. all of the whites and 2 yolks. i did not eat all of these at once so IDK. 5 or 6 maybe even 7. I keep a dozen in the fridge at work and try to eat all 12 while I'm there every day.

1pm (this is my actual lunch):
- 1 rotisserie chicken from the supermarket deli. All except the bottom nasty parts. Probably about 1.5lbs total of chicken meat. The whole bird wieghed 2.8 lbs. But I didn't eat the bones. Just the breasts, legs, thighs, and wings.
- 5 egg whites
- 1 egg yolk
- 1 lb of potato salad (potatoes, onions, black olives, bell pepper, ~3 tablespoons mayo) probably contained about 2 whole eggs too. there are eggs in it, yolk and whites but I have no clue how many in a pound of it.
- 2 slices Proscuitto (IDK how many calories, it's just smoked ham) probably 100 calories. No bread.
- 1 slice of american cheese, not processed shit from a package, this is deli cheese sliced from a block.
- I ate the rest of the cottage cheese, probably only a few forks full at this point. maybe 1 oz.
- 20oz chocolate milk, 1%
- something else I can't remember what but it's probably inconsequentiial calorie-wise

3:30pm:
- 4 slices of Round Table pepperoni pizza
- Chocolate milk. Probably only about 8oz. 1%.
- Half a head of broccoli dipped in ranch, full ranch, not lite. I like my ranch to have fat in it. tastes better.
- 40oz CACTUS COOLER and COKE!!!! dammit!
- Half of a tuna sandwich, same as the one I ate in the morning ex cept half as many calories.

4:30? somewhere around there:
- half of a chicken breast, small one, maybe 5oz on 2 slices 12 grain bread with lettuce, no mayo or anything
- handfull of chili cheese fritos
- still drinking that coke form above, so dont add any colories

6pm ish
- I ate 3 more eggs. 3 whites, 1 yolk.

9:30pm: I have not eaten this yet but I am cooking it. it is my dinner and will be eaten.
- 1.2 lb prime ribeye, grilled on a BBQ, boneless. This is 1.2lbs of red meat. I am a carnivore.
- 1 huge baked potato also grilled, 2 tbs sour cream, the fat kind not lite, chives. This potato is probably 10oz. it is about as big as a bottle of water, not wuite as long but a lot fatter.
- 6 oz. asparagus spears, fresh, with butter and garlic.
- 3oz fresh spinach
- 40 oz chocolate milk, roughly. More than 32, not more than 40. Maybe just the quart IDK yet. 1%

I will eat 2 or 3 more times before bed. Probably a few more eggs, maybe another tuna sandwich, a few more slices of ham, a few slices of toast, i might fry some eggs instead of eatign them HB as I get sick of HB eggs sometimes.

I will eat another 2k cal by 1am. Then I will go to bed. Repeat tomorrow. I don't eat the same things every day, like instead of a chicken I may have 2 foot-long subway turkey or chicken sandwiches but I try to keep the calorie and ratios the same every day. i know I am eating too much fat. I am getting more than enough protein but not by ratio. I think the last time I did figures it was about 25% P, 40% C, 35% FAT but when protein has 4 calories per gram and C/F both have 9, how in the hell can I eat this many calories and get my ideal 40/40/20 ratios?

I did not count the calories here. I am guesstimating 8000-9000. Am I wrong? Remember that I will eat at least another 2k cal before I go to bed at 1am,. I may even be up until like 3am and be back up by 7 again. that is normal for me. I go through more than a gallon of milk per day. I eat more than a dozen eggs per day. I eat at least one 16 oz container of 2% cottage cheese daily. Those 3 things I always make it a point to make sure I do no matter what.

Dang it, man. You're killing me . My cals are about half of that on a good day. It's great that your body can utilize that amount of food for tissue growth vs. increasing the size of.your fat cells. (I tend towards the latter).
However, while I took a coupe of days off of work, I did look through the food inventory at home and am well stocked on split chicken breasts, flank steak, egg whites, red potatoes, etc., so that's a start towards ditching some more weight.

[almostgone]

Hahahaha

They got you!

Reminds me of a time in college when I had to get a rental while my truck was getting fixed. They stuck me in a lipstick bright red Ford Focus. My crazy roommates put a sign on it one day that said Hot Pepper! I keep seeing people giggling in my rear view mirror and didn't notice until I parked on campus. I left it on until I returned the car. We also took that car on the Mississippi River levee and took it mud riding and sliding down the levee with the parking brake!

Ah, college!

They dang sure did, RC. I noticed on the way to work tonight that if you press the gas pedal on this Hyundai, it is more of a volume control. The car doesn't really speed up, it just gets louder.

[Java Man]

Dang it, man. You're killing me . My cals are about half of that on a good day. It's great that your body can utilize that amount of food for tissue growth vs. increasing the size of.your fat cells. (I tend towards the latter).
However, while I took a coupe of days off of work, I did look through the food inventory at home and am well stocked on split chicken breasts, flank steak, egg whites, red potatoes, etc., so that's a start towards ditching some more weight.

I just entered all of his into a cal counter. It is over 13,900 calories, not even including the 2000 I said I will still eat before bed. no wonder I have gained 13 lbs since last Friday. Jesus. That is a shit ton of food. I was only guessing at 8500-9000. I am just eating as much as possible and as clean as possible. I have not been counting calories until just now. I honestly just went through my head all of the things I have eaten today and wrote it all out. I don't count calories anymore. I thought I had a handle on it. Apparently not hahaha.

I cannot even believe this myself. If I had not done this myself and someone told me they ate 15K cal a day I would laugh my ass off. But apparently that is what I am doing. I just started eating like this on Friday of last week, I weighed 215 that day. I injected 1G of sust that night and I have been taking about 80mg/day Dbol in divided doses since then.

I just now weighed myself at 228. Holy shit. In 6 days I gained 13lbs. I tested my BF% t=yesterday at the gym. 24%. I was 26% 10 days ago when I decided to get back in the gym. So I have lost almost 2% fat and gained 13lbs total. WTF. 6 DAYS! I just got bloods 2 weeks ago and although my cholesterol was a little high my resting pulse was 68, and BP was about 125/75 give or take a few digits I'm not looking at it. but both figures HR and BP was better than it has been since I was in high school.

So my health is not bad. yet. I need to reexamine my dietary intake. There is plenty of room to cut fat if I am eating 15K+ calories. I can paste the spreadsheet. Nobody will believe me unless I do.

EDIT: About the fat cell thing, did you see that movie "The Machinist" where Christian Bale who is 6' tall is about 128lbs? IMDB says he was writing on his fridge his actual weight while making that movie, so when his character pins those post its on the fridge in those scenes, that is his real weight in RL he wanted it to be realistic as the script was written for a 5'6" actor but Bale said " I can do that weight". . Well, that was how I looked before I started lifting. You could see all my ribs, my sternum stuck out so I had a convex chest. I looked like a death camp prisoner. I dont' have alot of fat cells. I guess I am lucky in that regard.

[Java Man]

I just remembered I also ate about half of a half gallon container of "death by chocolate" ice cream while I was watching a movie at about 7pm. I looked in the freezer just now and went to grab it again. I am not even thinking about what I am doing. I am just eating. I thought I had it in my head but it seems I am eating things and not even logging It in my brain. The denial thing BG mentioned. Works for food too. If it is purely fatty food, and I know it doesn't match my diet that I WANT to be on, I seem to just block it out. Is it possible that for a guy eating like I have been and staying up from 7am until 3am that I am eating 20K calories sometimes in 24 hours? OMG. I need to start writing this stuff down as I do it.

Half of that ice cream container is 1240 calories. Mostly fat and sugar. I did not even remember it when I was going through my daily intake. But I didn't finish my dinner yet. I will though before I go to bed. So forget the "extra" 2000 and just stop at my dinner. Including the ice cream, that puts me at a little over 15,000.

[almostgone]

I just remembered I also ate about half of a half gallon container of "death by chocolate" ice cream while I was watching a movie at about 7pm. I looked in the freezer just now and went to grab it again. I am not even thinking about what I am doing. I am just eating. I thought I had it in my head but it seems I am eating things and not even logging It in my brain. The denial thing BG mentioned. Works for food too. If it is purely fatty food, and I know it doesn't match my diet that I WANT to be on, I seem to just block it out. Is it possible that for a guy eating like I have been and staying up from 7am until 3am that I am eating 20K calories sometimes in 24 hours? OMG. I need to start writing this stuff down as I do it.

Half of that ice cream container is 1240 calories. Mostly fat and sugar. I did not even remember it when I was going through my daily intake. But I didn't finish my dinner yet. I will though before I go to bed. So forget the "extra" 2000 and just stop at my dinner. Including the ice cream, that puts me at a little over 15,000.

Man, you have to be torturing the plumbing system where you live.



Check out the video below. He does a "JavaMan" grocery store trip. I think it's funny as hell. Oberst is a comical guy.

https://youtu.be/bs40BtGpuCA



Edit: He starts the shopping trip @ around 3 minute mark.

[Java Man]

Man, you have to be torturing the plumbing system where you live.

It's a rental


LMFAO dude he's not eating 20K cals he's eating 40 if he really can eat a whole turkey. Somehow my last post got deleted.

He is funny. Notice how his wife said he eats at least 7 meals per day but he said 5 or 6? He doesn't even know how much he eats! Same shit I'm doing!

What;s not so funny is that's how my cart looked last week. When I'm bulking it;s not uncommon for me to spend 250-300 a week on groceries.

6' 8" 400lbs. Damn.

[Java Man]

If I'm not more careful, I will look more like this in a month:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW7n2UP60bk

[NACH3]

Morning all,

Back was sure done in well yesterday... Hoping to get a w/o in later! Will report back...

Damn, Java that's some food right there!

[Bio-Active]

Hack squats with pause reps and 8 forced reps 1 warm 3 working sets

Leg press same as above no warm

Leg extensions

Leg curls

Lunges

35 minutes cool Down cardio and done

[almostgone]

Damn I ate and the hiccups came right back. Unreal

BG, I know you are probably under constant deadlines @ work, like myself. One thing that I've noticed (especially when on cycle or a blast), is that I tend to attack my food and scarf it down vs. taking time to properly chew my food.
I don't know if it will help you or not, but make sure you're chewing your food well. If I am in a rush or anabolically enhanced, I tend to attack my food and devour it as fast as possible. It really causes me pain and grief later on.
Just a thought. Hope.you get right ASAP, buddy!