Extreme Lifestyle with Bio

[Java Man]

And...how's that made?

Well he starts with fresh ground corn meal, a dairy cow, a vat for making fat free cheese curd, a vegetable garden....

[Java Man]

I won't be posting my meals here while bulking because:
A. I am still eating more than 12K calories daily, but have come down from the 17K I was eating in the past few weeks.
B. My diet currently won't help anyone in here. I am here to learn how to cut to below 15%, to get rid of the stubborn gut fat that always hangs on even though the rest of my body has paper thin skin, which I will be doing starting around May.
C. It would be very long posts because of the volume of food.

The short list is: At least a dozen eggs, at least a gallon of 1% milk, at least one whole chicken <-- daily
The rest of the daily list is variable as I cannot eat the same things every single day. I try to keep as lean as possible like if I go to Subway for lunch I will get the grilled chicken breast 12" with just veggies, vinegar, oil, salt and pepper and oregano. No mayo or mustard or junk that is empty. But I get two of them

I stay up for about 18-19 hours per day getting up around 7am and not going to bed until around 3am. I am eating much of that time. Eating 12K calories per day is hard but it can be done, fairly cleanly.

Remember this is a heavy bulk diet. Not for cutting. I am so far actually losing BF right now and as long as that continues I am staying with it making adjustments as needed. I am still gaining about 1lb per day as I have been since Feb 12th when I started this. Now up to 231 lbs as of 15 min ago. Goal is 250. Then I will begin to cut.

[Bio-Active]

I won't be posting my meals here while bulking because:
A. I am still eating more than 12K calories daily, but have come down from the 17K I was eating in the past few weeks.
B. My diet currently won't help anyone in here. I am here to learn how to cut to below 15%, to get rid of the stubborn gut fat that always hangs on even though the rest of my body has paper thin skin, which I will be doing starting around May.
C. It would be very long posts because of the volume of food.

The short list is: At least a dozen eggs, at least a gallon of 1% milk, at least one whole chicken <-- daily
The rest of the daily list is variable as I cannot eat the same things every single day. I try to keep as lean as possible like if I go to Subway for lunch I will get the grilled chicken breast 12" with just veggies, vinegar, oil, salt and pepper and oregano. No mayo or mustard or junk that is empty. But I get two of them

I stay up for about 18-19 hours per day getting up around 7am and not going to bed until around 3am. I am eating much of that time. Eating 12K calories per day is hard but it can be done, fairly cleanly.

Remember this is a heavy bulk diet. Not for cutting. I am so far actually losing BF right now and as long as that continues I am staying with it making adjustments as needed. I am still gaining about 1lb per day as I have been since Feb 12th when I started this. Now up to 231 lbs as of 15 min ago. Goal is 250. Then I will begin to cut.

The only reason some of us eat the same things daily is because we work long hours and there is no time to meal prep during the work week and this makes it easier to stay consistent all work long. If you have the time to change it up that often then that is good for you man. I wish I had more time. Thanks for stopping in man

[Java Man]

The only reason some of us eat the same things daily is because we work long hours and there is no time to meal prep during the work week and this makes it easier to stay consistent all work long. If you have the time to change it up that often then that is good for you man. I wish I had more time. Thanks for stopping in man

Sure thing Bio. I will learn a lot in this thread. I hope I didn't offend anyone with that comment about not being able to eat the same thing daily.

I simply meant I can't eat the same thing because it starts to make me not want to eat. I need variety. I work long hours too. I work sometimes 24 hours without sleeping. The rest of the time when I am not under that much pressure I work on average 12 hours per day. I can work from home if I want to and I can do what I want in my office meaning we have a kitchen there and I am high on the food chain so to speak so nobody tells me how my time will be spent. I am lucky in that regard (I earned it though, I wasn't "given" this position). I get what you're saying. I know some guys who eat the same thing every day because it is simple, don't have to put much thought into it when there are more important things to worry about though so not all people do so only because of time constraints. All I meant was I can't do that because of the variety issue and loss of appetite if I have to eat the same thing over and over.

[Java Man]

Well he starts with fresh ground corn meal, a dairy cow, a vat for making fat free cheese curd, a vegetable garden....

I said this because I am amazed at how you can put meals together with almost NO fat in them. I have never been good at that. That's why i am here. I have a lot of respect for your advice. I joke around sometimes and it can be taken wrong or out of proper context. I hope this didn't offend you. it was a compliment.

[Bio-Active]

8 whites 2 yolk 1 Ezekiel muffin and oj

[NACH3]

Protein bomb
1.5c Liq egg whites, banana raspberries, 2scoops ON GS, oats

7 XLg eggs, w/whole wheat waffles w/Pb

[Bio-Active]

Pre workout mr Hyde 2 scoops

[Bio-Active]

Sure thing Bio. I will learn a lot in this thread. I hope I didn't offend anyone with that comment about not being able to eat the same thing daily.

I simply meant I can't eat the same thing because it starts to make me not want to eat. I need variety. I work long hours too. I work sometimes 24 hours without sleeping. The rest of the time when I am not under that much pressure I work on average 12 hours per day. I can work from home if I want to and I can do what I want in my office meaning we have a kitchen there and I am high on the food chain so to speak so nobody tells me how my time will be spent. I am lucky in that regard (I earned it though, I wasn't "given" this position). I get what you're saying. I know some guys who eat the same thing every day because it is simple, don't have to put much thought into it when there are more important things to worry about though so not all people do so only because of time constraints. All I meant was I can't do that because of the variety issue and loss of appetite if I have to eat the same thing over and over.

I must admit I am jealous of your job. I can barely get time to use the rest room without being needed for 3-4 different things and I have to eat as fast as I can just to get it down before getting called for something. I am on the back end though. Retirement isn't for away

[NACH3]

I must admit I am jealous of your job. I can barely get time to use the rest room without being needed for 3-4 different things and I have to eat as fast as I can just to get it down before getting called for something. I am on the back end though. Retirement isn't for away

Hitting chest today guys... Fired up I am!
Just need a another meal or so...

Edit* 6HB eggs mixed fruit and a bagel

[Bio-Active]

Incline press with pause reps 2 warm 2 working sets 8 forced reps taking the negs as slow as possible fighting them the whole way down

Flat machine press same no warm

Incline db flies

Cable crossovers. 35 minutes cool down cardio and done

[Bio-Active]

5.85 oz grilled chicken 277 grams sweet potato post training

[GirlyGymRat]

The only way I am able to maintain (and still struggle) is to meal prep. I had to give up something to carve out time for workouts and daily meal prep was the choice I made. I make 2 different proteins per week. I change up the protein source every week except breakfast which is eggs. I do like chic and can eat it everyday for every meal. But I also like variety.

This week is beef and shrimp and a few pieces of grilled chic. I'll eat protein for a little snack.

[Bio-Active]

The only way I am able to maintain (and still struggle) is to meal prep. I had to give up something to carve out time for workouts and daily meal prep was the choice I made. I make 2 different proteins per week. I change up the protein source every week except breakfast which is eggs. I do like chic and can eat it everyday for every meal. But I also like variety. This week is beef and shrimp and a few pieces of grilled chic. I'll eat protein for a little snack.

well the good is 80 percent of our goal! Good job

[NACH3]

PWO - 'protein bomb'

Chicken sweet potato, green beans

Chest
Stretching RC ex's abs more stretching(ststic & dynamic)

Incline DB press
3warm ups 3 feelers
1w(120s) 7 2forced 2negs drop 3 + RP/1.5

Incline smith press
3 feelers
1w 4 drop 5 same weight(RP) 2(almost had to rack short but got it up)

Incline flys threw up in my mouth a lil after these
2warm ups 2 feelers / was torched already
1w(80s) 7 drop 5 +RP/1-failed on 2nd attempt

Decline Hammer strength press
1w(3plates aside) 5 drop 4 drop(same weight) 2

Pec dec
3w higher end reps(10+) holding squeeze for 3sec

Good session - weights still going up and stronger later in sequence when changed
Weights done in just under 50min -- was lacking a lil NRG though I slept great the past 2 nights -

[Bio-Active]

Killer workout Nach! Chicken breast and sweet potato again

[Java Man]

I must admit I am jealous of your job. I can barely get time to use the rest room without being needed for 3-4 different things and I have to eat as fast as I can just to get it down before getting called for something. I am on the back end though. Retirement isn't for away

Thanks. I do have it good I am salaried and I also get special project commission (this is why I have to work so much as the special projects are done outside normal business hours). I am constantly being bombarded by people when I am in the office too, which is why I go work at home sometimes, so i can concentrate and actually get my work done. My daughter and grandchildren are in Arizona, and the only thing stopping me from moving there is this job. I have so much freedom that I fear I would not be able to find this situation again.

I on the other hand am jealous of you for being able to retire soon. I still have another 20 years before i can consider it.

[Java Man]

Nice workout NACH. I can't wait until I am back to that stage. Only a few more weeks I should be back to my old self.

[NACH3]

Unfortunately yes. I know from a previous MRI I have a large tear of my supraspinatus. I have managed to successfully work around it, but I'm losing more active external rotation, which has to mean my tear is getting much worse. After two hips, just not ready for more surgery, particularly after having so much fun due to my TRT.
Do you still have a rotator cuff? Can they clean up some of your cartilage with arthroscopic surgery to buy you more time?

Damn Prox, sorry to hear man - surely many do not realize the effect it has mentally against us... But we're not done

Unfortunately, for me I've had 2 artho's - 1lap... And the last one they went in and cleaned it up - RCs are both torn(R is horrible) lost 90% of all my connective tissue and have big arse painful bond Spurs that could be shaved down but I'm not letting them go back in until I get that total rev joint replacement - and I'm tired of surgeries as well lol - 6 on stomach(ventral hernia repairs - which got infected and didn't close for 2yrs) - I wish I could buy more time but now it's just PT/ART/and as much work I can do myself and with someone to delay that surgery for as long as possible!

[NACH3]

Nice workout NACH. I can't wait until I am back to that stage. Only a few more weeks I should be back to my old self.

Thx brotha! I was lower on NRG today but got it done!

Are you 'on' ATM Java?

[Bio-Active]

Nice workout NACH. I can't wait until I am back to that stage. Only a few more weeks I should be back to my old self.

looking forward to seeing what your training looks like

[NACH3]

Killer workout Nach! Chicken breast and sweet potato again

Thx Bio!!

Looks like you crushed chest too, brother!

Protein bomb
1.5c liq egg whites, fruit, oats

[Java Man]

Thx brotha! I was lower on NRG today but got it done!

Are you 'on' ATM Java?

Yes. I will say what I am doing but not the dosages, not here in the open where noobs might get the wrong idea and start doing dosages way beyond their level.

Sustanon 300 base, Tren , Dbol for first week and a half (ran out but only intended 2 weeks anyways), dropped it when the injectables kicked in. I pre-loaded the test with double the planned cycle dosage, but not the Tren. The first 2 shots of tren was acetate so it would kick in quickly, then I will be going to enanthate . I am also doing A-50 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off throughout. This began Feb 15th or there about, so I am just now starting to get the effects of the longer esters along with the shorter ones. 1000iu HCG weekly (roughly, E3D injections don;t work out that way in the math btw close enough)

looking forward to seeing what your training looks like

I have posted many of my detailed workouts in the marcus' HIT thread. I will post them here when I get back to normal.

[Java Man]

Breakfast:
4 whole eggs (fried in a little butter and Olive oil)
3 HB eggs, whites only
12 oz Pineapple & Tangerine juice
16 oz 1% milk
2 oz 2% Cottage cheese
3 slices 12 grain bread, no butter
3600 mg fish oil, 1500 mg niacin, B, C, D, E, and 1800 mg NAC

[Bio-Active]

5.63 oz grilled chicken breast 233 grams sweet potato

[Java Man]

4 oz. chicken breast fried with 2 tbsp olive oil, bbq sauce
10oz 1% milk
2oz 2% cottage cheese
Banana
fresh spinach leaves

[Bio-Active]

Dang, can't you split it.up.evenly and eat every 3 hours? Just kidding, Bio. . The meals.you post and.your lifts in the HIT diary show your 110% dedication. Very motivating!

thanks a lot brother I sure do try

[Bio-Active]

Thanks. I do have it good I am salaried and I also get special project commission (this is why I have to work so much as the special projects are done outside normal business hours). I am constantly being bombarded by people when I am in the office too, which is why I go work at home sometimes, so i can concentrate and actually get my work done. My daughter and grandchildren are in Arizona, and the only thing stopping me from moving there is this job. I have so much freedom that I fear I would not be able to find this situation again. I on the other hand am jealous of you for being able to retire soon. I still have another 20 years before i can consider it.

i have been a salaried employee for as long as I can remember back to the early 90's means I get to work 11-12 hours Ed

[NACH3]

4 oz. chicken breast fried with 2 tbsp olive oil, bbq sauce
10oz 1% milk
2oz 2% cottage cheese
Banana
fresh spinach leaves

Java... I've noticed how much milk you drink... I used to run a high dairy diet(16gl whole milk a month) but it bloated me so bad - do you think(and I know your bulking) that you need that much dairy? Just wanted to share my experience - I was still lean but skinny lean(165-70) but kept a picket of fat over my lower abs moreso... I love milk too! Wish I could drink more... But it's also high in sugar... What are your thoughts?

[NACH3]

Chicken brown rice greens

[NACH3]

Yes. I will say what I am doing but not the dosages, not here in the open where noobs might get the wrong idea and start doing dosages way beyond their level.

Sustanon 300 base, Tren, Dbol for first week and a half (ran out but only intended 2 weeks anyways), dropped it when the injectables kicked in. I pre-loaded the test with double the planned cycle dosage, but not the Tren. The first 2 shots of tren was acetate so it would kick in quickly, then I will be going to enanthate. I am also doing A-50 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off throughout. This began Feb 15th or there about, so I am just now starting to get the effects of the longer esters along with the shorter ones. 1000iu HCG weekly (roughly, E3D injections don;t work out that way in the math btw close enough

I've not run Sust yet idk why - but that looks/& sounds very nice I love the pulsing idea... I've done it once w/drol(a-bombs) and loved it! I know better for next time not to run mine past 10 days - either 7-10off depending on duration...

It'll be nice to see you gettin back into HIT as well!

[Bio-Active]

I've ran it. It's ok but I like cyp and e better

[Java Man]

i have been a salaried employee for as long as I can remember back to the early 90's means I get to work 11-12 hours Ed

Yep! Lucky us. It's not all bad. In my case it evens out. There are also times when my workload lightens and I can leave early and not work at home this working only a 5 hour day. That's how it's supposed to work. I know not all employers are so fair and take advantage of the 'exempt' status.

[Bio-Active]

Yep! Lucky us. It's not all bad. In my case it evens out. There are also times when my workload lightens and I can leave early and not work at home this working only a 5 hour day. That's how it's supposed to work. I know not all employers are so fair and take advantage of the 'exempt' status.

I wish it did but i am salary for a reason.... I get off early from time to time but getting off early means only working 9-10 hours. Retirement isn't far away. I only have about 5 more years

[Java Man]

Java... I've noticed how much milk you drink... I used to run a high dairy diet(16gl whole milk a month) but it bloated me so bad - do you think(and I know your bulking) that you need that much dairy? Just wanted to share my experience - I was still lean but skinny lean(165-70) but kept a picket of fat over my lower abs moreso... I love milk too! Wish I could drink more... But it's also high in sugar... What are your thoughts?

Whole milk? Oh no I'd be a fat slob with cholesterol in the 400's if I drank this much whole milk. I drink it for the protein and other nutrients you can't get in proportion powders and it's a lot cheaper.

I drink only 1% I can't deal with no fat it's too watery. Here's the breakdown on a gallon of 1%:

Total calories: 2080
Fat calories: 320
Protein: 160g
Carbs: 256g all sugars, no breakdown

Total Fat: 40g
Saturated: 24g
Trans: 0

Cholesterol: 240g
Sodium: 2460g ,<--ouch

Vitamin A: 160% USRDA
Vitamin C: 64%
Vitamin D: 400%
Calcium: 640%

[Bio-Active]

5.75 oz grilled chicken and greens

[NACH3]

Whole milk? Oh no I'd be a fat slob with cholesterol in the 400's if I drank this much whole milk. I drink it for the protein and other nutrients you can't get in proportion powders and it's a lot cheaper.

I drink only 1% I can't deal with no fat it's too watery. Here's the breakdown on a gallon of 1%:

Total calories: 2080
Fat calories: 320
Protein: 160g
Carbs: 256g all sugars, no breakdown

Total Fat: 40g
Saturated: 24g
Trans: 0

Cholesterol: 240g
Sodium: 2460g ,<--ouch

Vitamin A: 160% USRDA
Vitamin C: 64%
Vitamin D: 400%
Calcium: 640%

No doubt it can be great for bulking it sure has its place... I'm asking whether you think it's too much - it also isn't that healthy(high dairy diets) super high in sodium high in sugar... i did it for a while and since I've basically cut it out I've felt so much better - does have good nutrients but macro wise and sodium it's meh lol

If you do well go for it - I'm thinking it will be much harder to get below 15% - just sharing my experience - I do love milk and will have it on occasion but skim :/

[NACH3]

Ground beef(10oz) sweet potato(275g) green beans

[Bio-Active]

Ground beef(10oz) sweet potato(275g) green beans

ground beef! That sounds so good!

[Java Man]

I wish it did but i am salary for a reason.... I get off early from time to time but getting off early means only working 9-10 hours. Retirement isn't far away. I only have about 5 more years

Good for you man. Are you retiring early or are you in that good of shape at 60?