Chinese HGH concerns

[slimshady01]

Found this would pertain to this thread.


How long does GH take to start seeing results?


We see a lot of people saying GH will take "months" to start seeing changes. Is this true? I have always disagreed with and always will disagree with the mentality that says "GH takes months to see any changes".

Why? Because it just isn't true. Now, if someone is only using 1-2 IU per day, it indeed will take a few month to notice any changes and even then, they will be minor.

Once we get up to the 4-5 IU per day mark (a real 4-5 IU per day) guys will begin "seeing" changes within a couple weeks! The first changes which will be noticed will be in muscle fullness. It does not take long for this to start occuring...a couple weeks at this dose. Within a month, many guys will already see a visual reduction in bodyfat.

By the time someone gets up to 10 IU per day, changes will take place rapidly in every respect. Within a single month at that dose, a BB'r WILL notice a significant difference in how he looks. Bodyfat will have gone down noticably and muscle fullness will have increased very signifcantly. Of course, once someone has been using GH for a long period of time, results will begin to slow. The guidelines in this post are for beginners.

I have read many times where guys say GH takes anywhere between 3-6 MONTHS to see any results! The only way that is going to happen is if they're using 1 IU per day or it's fake! In truth, GH is NOT slow to act...it's just that so many people use shit or bunk GH, that they "think" it takes 3-6 months to work...LOL. Or...they use such a low dose that it is impossibleto notice substantial results. Even worse is when guys use low doses of under-dosed GH...which happesn all the time! No wonder so many guys don't notice shit for months. Another factor involved in this false belief is that many guys who don't know what they're talking about repeat this same information, thereby perpetuating the problem.

I challenge anyone here who hasn't used GH before to use just 5 IU per day of properly dosed GH for 30 days...and I guarnatee not a single person will come back and say they see no difference...unless perhaps unless they are very fat, which can make it very hard to notice its effects until they've been using it for a while.

[MedicineMan7]

I don't know that bronchitis is a common side from taking fake HGH, but if that is not something you have had before it is possible. The contaminants that could be in the product may cause a number of problems. Those contaminants and whatever else is in their can also cause your immune system to get weak. Problem is there is no one to go back and complain to, just stop taking it. Real hgh would make you feel better not worse. Possibly a little tired in the beginning, but not sick.

I had Pneumonia once for sure, twice if I remember correctly while growing up as a kid. As an adult, (I am 59) I have had Pneumonia about 3 times if my memory serves me well.

As far as having had URIs (upper respiratory illness) or if you will, just a real bad cold with sore throat and green phlegm etc., now those I have had "several" through out my adult life.

[EasyDoesIt]

I had Pneumonia once for sure, twice if I remember correctly while growing up as a kid. As an adult, (I am 59) I have had Pneumonia about 3 times if my memory serves me well.

As far as having had URIs (upper respiratory illness) or if you will, just a real bad cold with sore throat and green phlegm etc., now those I have had "several" through out my adult life.

Bronchitis usually comes back and seems to revive itself if you have had it before. If your HGH is counterfeit, I would just stop taking it. If your environment and daily activities such is getting enough rest and proper diet are in line you probably would not be a candidate for pneumonia or bronchitis. But as I stated there could be contaminants in the product which made lower your immune system. Anybody willing to manufacturer and distribute counterfeit products is basically SCUMM and cannot be trusted for what they are putting in the product.

[swithuk]

Bronchitis usually comes back and seems to revive itself if you have had it before. If your HGH is counterfeit, I would just stop taking it. If your environment and daily activities such is getting enough rest and proper diet are in line you probably would not be a candidate for pneumonia or bronchitis. But as I stated there could be contaminants in the product which made lower your immune system. Anybody willing to manufacturer and distribute counterfeit products is basically SCUMM and cannot be trusted for what they are putting in the product.

i couldnt agree more

[Fit N Fun]

Just got the second set of results back from my IGF-1 blood spot test that shows 393 ng/ml.

My IGF-1 test two months ago before going back on HGH showed my natural IGF-1 level as 171 ng/ml.

I take 4iu HGH at 7am. Monday to Friday with Saturday and Sunday off.

Last year my results were 424 ng/ml for the same dosage.

Am well happy!

[slimshady01]

Just got the second set of results back from my IGF-1 blood spot test that shows 393 ng/ml.

My IGF-1 test two months ago before going back on HGH showed my natural IGF-1 level as 171 ng/ml.

I take 4iu HGH at 7am. Monday to Friday with Saturday and Sunday off.

Last year my results were 424 ng/ml for the same dosage.

Am well happy!

Which hgh are u on

[marcus300]

Getting a lot of feedback lately regarding hyges, blues and rips - all reported bad sides, some didn't experience any kind of results, other had a lot of water rentention issues and others got gyno when they came off. Must be a few sources what are still pumping this shite out...

DONT TOUCH GENERIC'S GUYS, DONT WATSE YOUR MONEY ON CHEAP HGH.

[slimshady01]

Getting a lot of feedback lately regarding hyges, blues and rips - all reported bad sides, some didn't experience any kind of results, other had a lot of water rentention issues and others got gyno when they came off. Must be a few sources what are still pumping this shite out...

DONT TOUCH GENERIC'S GUYS, DONT WATSE YOUR MONEY ON CHEAP HGH.

Thanks for the update Marcus! I won't touch this crap again regardless how desperate I get.. I'm sick of donating my money to them .

[Hephens]

Well i'm gonna bring up and could start an argument here lol, but i'm sick of paying top dollar for pharm grade hgh, when i have and used a good generic hgh kit before. Pharm grade is by far the best and no doubt, but let me tell you guys something there are real hgh in china and its very hard and rare to come by. They simply don't ship any real hgh to EU and US market, you mainly all getting the underground black market fake hgh. My friend just got prescribed and picked up a kit of hgh from the chemist over there and simply said that his kit of Hygiene he got from the chemist is for Chinese market only they wont ship outside. I blame the western world for cracking down after the olympics on china which has caused even more fake hgh labs to open up.

[MedicineMan7]

Howdy everyone!

I pinned 10 IU of Hypertropin and 3 hours 15 minutes later had a blood draw at Quest Diagnostics.
I had my Growth Hormone Serum Level checked - test code 521. The result was 24.5 ng/ml. The range for this test is less than or = to 10.0 ng/ml.
••• I would appreciate any feedback re my results!!


After pinning this one time dose of 10 IU, 3 hours 15 minutes later, I also had my IGF-1 tested and it was 387 ng/ml. The range for this test is 50 - 317. Test code # is 16293.
I thought perhaps my IGF-1 should have been higher, but maybe it takes IGF-1 a few days to build up while taking the same dose every day?
••• Does any one know how long it takes for IGF-1 to build up in ones system if taking the same dose every day??

A couple months ago, my IGF-1 tested out at 320 taking Hypertropin 2 IU 7 days per week. This is the dose I am still taking every day.

In the past, taking pharma hgh, (Saizen) I had a draw done 3 x while taking 2 IU 7 days per week. The IGF-1 results were: 179, 400 and 342. The highest it ever got on Saizen was 502 but that was taking it at 3 IU per day 7 days per week

••• If anyone knows of test I can actually have done on a vial of hgh (to prove it is real) buy sending it to a lab somewhere, please let me know of the exact name of such test and also where exactly to send it to.

[AnabolicDoc]

Your hyges are likely not real. I've seen hgh test strips for sale but no idea if they r legit. Try googling it.

After at least a few days, but preferably a few wks, get your igf-1 checked. If it's similar to the igf-1 levels you got on pharm grade, at the same dose, then that would support that your hyges may be real (although this is highly unlikely as hyges are very commonly faked).

Also check the MAGIC Foundation website as you may be able to find programs and less expensive places to fill hgh prescriptions. There's a whole forum there of parents of kids with hgh deficiency, who have difficulty with the expense and getting insurance reimbursement.

[Hephens]

I think what alot of people don't understand is that when they go for a blood test for both gh and igf-1, there on a daily dose of say 2-3iu for the past few months than just before there blood test they pinn 10iu. Well your gh will be through the roof after 3-4hrs but your igf-1 will take 24hrs to peak and even at 1x10iu pinned that's not gonna have it at its peak igf-1 levels.

Some guy on this thread reading back was on 2-3iu of h y g e t r o p i n for few months and did both gh and igf-1 test and pinned 10iu just before his test, his gh was very high at what is should of been for 10iu shot but his igf-1 levels were high but not high enough for 10iu.

As far as i know it can take upto a week of injecting 10iu each day to get an accurate reading for igf-1 at 10iu at its peak.

[Hephens]

Found this would pertain to this thread.


How long does GH take to start seeing results?


We see a lot of people saying GH will take "months" to start seeing changes. Is this true? I have always disagreed with and always will disagree with the mentality that says "GH takes months to see any changes".

Why? Because it just isn't true. Now, if someone is only using 1-2 IU per day, it indeed will take a few month to notice any changes and even then, they will be minor.

Once we get up to the 4-5 IU per day mark (a real 4-5 IU per day) guys will begin "seeing" changes within a couple weeks! The first changes which will be noticed will be in muscle fullness. It does not take long for this to start occuring...a couple weeks at this dose. Within a month, many guys will already see a visual reduction in bodyfat.

By the time someone gets up to 10 IU per day, changes will take place rapidly in every respect. Within a single month at that dose, a BB'r WILL notice a significant difference in how he looks. Bodyfat will have gone down noticably and muscle fullness will have increased very signifcantly. Of course, once someone has been using GH for a long period of time, results will begin to slow. The guidelines in this post are for beginners.

I have read many times where guys say GH takes anywhere between 3-6 MONTHS to see any results! The only way that is going to happen is if they're using 1 IU per day or it's fake! In truth, GH is NOT slow to act...it's just that so many people use shit or bunk GH, that they "think" it takes 3-6 months to work...LOL. Or...they use such a low dose that it is impossibleto notice substantial results. Even worse is when guys use low doses of under-dosed GH...which happesn all the time! No wonder so many guys don't notice shit for months. Another factor involved in this false belief is that many guys who don't know what they're talking about repeat this same information, thereby perpetuating the problem.

I challenge anyone here who hasn't used GH before to use just 5 IU per day of properly dosed GH for 30 days...and I guarnatee not a single person will come back and say they see no difference...unless perhaps unless they are very fat, which can make it very hard to notice its effects until they've been using it for a while.

Yes your right, iv seen gains from hgh in conjunction with AAS and insulin within weeks i mean big changes just from taking 2-10iu i know a ifbb pro who chucks 10iu with all his other stuff hes on and he explodes within weeks. Too many people just waste there hgh and take it by itself, but that also depends on your goals and what you want out of it. I would never waste my money taking hgh by its self to see results, you'll be waiting months on end.

[slimshady01]

Yes your right, iv seen gains from hgh in conjunction with AAS and insulin within weeks i mean big changes just from taking 2-10iu i know a ifbb pro who chucks 10iu with all his other stuff hes on and he explodes within weeks. Too many people just waste there hgh and take it by itself, but that also depends on your goals and what you want out of it. I would never waste my money taking hgh by its self to see results, you'll be waiting months on end.

Exactly!

[Beast177]

I have the same blues.

[curioususer]

Mass spec on hyges!!

[MedicineMan7]

Mass spec on hyges!!

To curioususer,
Regarding the Mass spec on hyges, can you tell me the address to where you mailed your sample? I would like to mail them a vial of mine.
How much did it cost you?

Thanks!

[Rick Kane]

Mass spec on hyges!!

Sorry bro but I call bullshit on that scan. Even western pharmas don't always have 99% purity as a finished product. I've seen omnitrope with a 96.8% purity but for the most part they average 97-99. Do you really believe that a ug lab is now producing 99% pure gh??
Why is the scan refering to sample as Hygetopin and why is the sample even labeled **********? The lab should only know it as sample A, B et al.

[slimshady01]

Mass spec on hyges!!

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This looks so dumb,my grandma could make this up on her apple 2e

[Hardbody408]

Fcvtec. Ive been using the same brand only i bought the 100good iu brown tops. I started a thread a couple weeks ago and everyone i mean everyone says there fake. I haven't felt any cts i did develop rotator cuff tendinitisbut not sure if its due to the gh. I do see a little bloating cause im losing weight but belly still popping out. I dnt no what to believe at this point but all i no is half the people said they wouldnt touch them even if they were free! Only difference between mine and his are the amount per bottle.

[fm2002]

Wow, it took me 2 days, but I finally finished reading through the entire 47 pages. I had jumped in from time to time, but to read it from start to finish was much better.

First, for me bodybuilding isn't my priority (no offense to the BB's w/o you guys we would know nothing). My priority is extending the quality of life through supplementation, exercise and to a lesser extent a healthy diet. Supplementation of vitamins, low dose of testosterone and hgh. Vitamins for all are easy to come by and because I used to live in Thailand and still frequently go there Test is also easy to come by. This leaves HGH. Unfortunately for most, pharmaceutical HGH is very hard to come by. For reasons of either can't get a doctors script or cost. The latter being for me. I can easily get it from my HRT doc in the states, but the price is way above my pay grade.

This puts me in a difficult position. I study my ass off. Learning among other things the incredible benefits of hgh, but I can't afford it. I know how good the cookies are, but I can't get in the cookie jar. Than IMO a wonderful thing comes along; Chinese generic hgh. Affordable, accessible and I guess good quality. I think the same scenario can be said by alot on this forum and why this thread is soooooooooooooooo popular.

Now if we are to follow what Marcus is suggesting than someone has just taken away my only option for the coveted cookies. So first denial, than anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. I think all emotions are well represented in this thread.

And I'll add a sixth; desperation. What do we do now? Especially when I have a 6 month supply; I always have elevated IGF-1 levels no adverse sides as mentioned etc. etc. I have to make a decision.

[This thread has been a great tool in helping me. In particular Marcus, Ronnie and Sheven. These three in my opinion provided the most useful, credible info. Marcus for playing the role of devils advocate, Ronnie with the first big name to come forward and admit he was burned and Sheven for providing an insight on how it works and in defense of the legitimate China pharmaceutical industry (I really hope he wasn't banned? I sure didn't see any reason on this thread of why this could of happened).]

To help me make this decision can somebody answer these questions for me

1) can somebody explain how adding IGF-1 to a vial would show up on a blood test. Meaning if the entire vial was IGF-1 what would be the IGF-1 rise. Say for example with real hgh. I have heard that 1iu per day should equate to a rise of 100 points. Does the same hold true for IGF-1 ? Is there a difference in reaction to blood levels between liver produced IGF-1 and exogenous IGF-1?
2)HGH serum levels - it's been said that some use this test to see if their hgh is good. Others have said that if GHRP peptide is used this will also raise HGH serum levels. There's some differing opinions on the latter. My hrt doc tells me it's very hard to test your blood to see if GHRP and Ipmorelin are working. I started a thread once on Dats forum and someone wrote in that you inject the peptides and within an hour have your blood drawn. Let's assume this method works. So here's my question how long does exogenous HGH and Peptides induced hgh linger in your blood? Seems to me HGH induced by Peps dissipates quickly and if exogenous HGH stays around longer than you may be able to time your blood draw to determine if you have good hgh???

[Miguel2013]

Man this is some good shit right here!!
I been on hGH for just over a month now, just upped the dose to 5 Iu's but i have not yet seen any benefits nor side effects. No better sleep, no high energy levels, fat loss erc... no CTS either etc... Im buying getropin for 550 per kit, blue tops but they dont say getropin on the blue tops (which i believe its suppose to) there isnt any counterfeit code on the box either. My shit could be fake for all I know im thinking of buying a prego test tomorrow and testing it. Question is how much iu's do i have to waste to do the prego test????

[beerdogg]

Prego test is for HCG .

[EasyDoesIt]

Man this is some good shit right here!!
I been on hGH for just over a month now, just upped the dose to 5 Iu's but i have not yet seen any benefits nor side effects. No better sleep, no high energy levels, fat loss erc... no CTS either etc... Im buying getropin for 550 per kit, blue tops but they dont say getropin on the blue tops (which i believe its suppose to) there isnt any counterfeit code on the box either. My shit could be fake for all I know im thinking of buying a prego test tomorrow and testing it. Question is how much iu's do i have to waste to do the prego test????

They usually do not use hcg anymore to counterfeit hgh. READ THROUGH THIS THREAD AND YOU WILL GET AN EDUCATION ON HGH, you do not have real hgh. You want to take hgh, take pharm grade. If you can not obtain pharm grade then i suggest not wasting your money. Generics, getropin, jins etc from China are fake, junk! You also paid a high price for that product.

[Rick Kane]

^^
Yeah that. Miguelito, you got hosed. I know stuff is more expensive up north but damn! If your gh was real you would be experiencing at least some sides like a little bit of water retention, tightness in hands, joints a little sore or vivid dreams. Not everyone experiences the same thing but most people will experience at least one of the four.
Physical changes come later but you will definitely notice a change in how your body feels in the first month.

[Miguel2013]

They usually do not use hcg anymore to counterfeit hgh. READ THROUGH THIS THREAD AND YOU WILL GET AN EDUCATION ON HGH, you do not have real hgh. You want to take hgh, take pharm grade. If you can not obtain pharm grade then i suggest not wasting your money. Generics, getropin, jins etc from China are fake, junk! You also paid a high price for that product.

My buddy was on the same stuff Im on and on the second month he started having CTS, lost some fat, excessive sweating, better sleep... im gona up my dose and finish this kit man. Im not loosing hope just yet.... but if i feel no sides or no changes after this kit i know the stuff's gotta be fake. Though i want to feel the benefits already and asap one month might be a little too early....

[Miguel2013]

^^
Yeah that. Miguelito, you got hosed. I know stuff is more expensive up north but damn! If your gh was real you would be experiencing at least some sides like a little bit of water retention, tightness in hands, joints a little sore or vivid dreams. Not everyone experiences the same thing but most people will experience at least one of the four.
Physical changes come later but you will definitely notice a change in how your body feels in the first month.

Im drinking water like a beast if that counts and now that i started injecting in the morning i feel more energy through out the day... dont know if thats the Gh though.... I dont think its worth doing the prego test for Hcg anymore... i rather get my shit tested in a lab but i dont know any places im from toronto - canada

[EasyDoesIt]

My buddy was on the same stuff Im on and on the second month he started having CTS, lost some fat, excessive sweating, better sleep... im gona up my dose and finish this kit man. Im not loosing hope just yet.... but if i feel no sides or no changes after this kit i know the stuff's gotta be fake. Though i want to feel the benefits already and asap one month might be a little too early....

Read through this thread, the counterfeits have been manufactured with peptides that can cause similar side effects. This has all been stated over and over on this thread. Everyone that has counterfeit spends a lot of energy trying to prove what they have is real. Energy would be better spent reading this forum and educating yourself. Most of the people involved in this thread are not going to give you the answer you want to hear. Not trying to be sarcastic, but this is a long thread and new people come on asking the same question about same or similar products and a lot of research and experiences have gone into this thread. If your product was real you would know it at a month and not be questioning it. I can not say it enough "Read through this thread" Good Luck!

[marcus300]

My buddy was on the same stuff Im on and on the second month he started having CTS, lost some fat, excessive sweating, better sleep... im gona up my dose and finish this kit man. Im not loosing hope just yet.... but if i feel no sides or no changes after this kit i know the stuff's gotta be fake. Though i want to feel the benefits already and asap one month might be a little too early....

You haven't got gh, your buddy didn't have real gh either the results he had were from his new diet and training while on the so called gh. If you buy cheap generic gh your wasting all your money, read the thread and you will understand better that you haven't got real gh. You got fake rubbish sorry to say

[chickenstirfry]

I'm have run a good few kits of thanktropin & novotropin from a very much respected & long-established source.. I'm sure a few of you vets know who I'm talking about.

They do everything that GH is supposed to do?! Crazy dreams, deep sleep, skin shiny & glowing, new veins, fat loss especially round the mid section, more pop & 3D to the muscles, delts getting wider, just a different look to the body, nails & hair grow much quicker, cts... it's all there. On 4ius a day.

I'm not trying to advertise this stuff at all, I would MUCH rather be able to run pharm GH at the same dosage if I could afford just for peace for mind that the product is clean... but what I am using MUST have real GH in it, not severely underdosed either.

[marcus300]

I'm have run a good few kits of thanktropin & novotropin from a very much respected & long-established source.. I'm sure a few of you vets know who I'm talking about.

They do everything that GH is supposed to do?! Crazy dreams, deep sleep, skin shiny & glowing, new veins, fat loss especially round the mid section, more pop & 3D to the muscles, delts getting wider, just a different look to the body, nails & hair grow much quicker, cts... it's all there. On 4ius a day.

I'm not trying to advertise this stuff at all, I would MUCH rather be able to run pharm GH at the same dosage if I could afford just for peace for mind that the product is clean... but what I am using MUST have real GH in it, not severely underdosed either.

Your probably running peptides at the best your not running real gh, but if your happy carry on running it but once you try real pharm grade gh you will understand what we are all talking about...

[chickenstirfry]

Marcus I'm gonna give it a go and see man.

[marcus300]

Your wasting your money and being sucked into buying peps instead of real hgh but yes of course give it a go because you wont know how to tell anyway until you actually buy real gh, cheap gh = not real gh..............Please read the whole thread

[EasyDoesIt]

I'm have run a good few kits of thanktropin & novotropin from a very much respected & long-established source.. I'm sure a few of you vets know who I'm talking about.

They do everything that GH is supposed to do?! Crazy dreams, deep sleep, skin shiny & glowing, new veins, fat loss especially round the mid section, more pop & 3D to the muscles, delts getting wider, just a different look to the body, nails & hair grow much quicker, cts... it's all there. On 4ius a day.

I'm not trying to advertise this stuff at all, I would MUCH rather be able to run pharm GH at the same dosage if I could afford just for peace for mind that the product is clean... but what I am using MUST have real GH in it, not severely underdosed either.

Your wasting your money and being sucked into buying peps instead of real hgh but yes of course give it a go because you wont know how to tell anyway until you actually buy real gh, cheap gh = not real gh..............Please read the whole thread

I have to agree with Marcus. I see now why so many believe that there hgh is real. Other forums basically endorse sales reps etc. which is crazy to do on a forum. Unless of course you're getting a cut of the action. I also know very trusted sources and they personally do not use the generics etc. they buy pharm for themselves and sell the other. They are in business and supplying what is in demand, good or bad if there customers are begging for cheap, then then they will sell it. The day you get a batch that screws you up, you will understand what we are talking about. Just my two cents, but by all means have at it.

[chickenstirfry]

Your wasting your money and being sucked into buying peps instead of real hgh but yes of course give it a go because you wont know how to tell anyway until you actually buy real gh, cheap gh = not real gh..............Please read the whole thread

Dude a misunderstanding... I meant I'm going to give pharm gh a go. I will only be able to run it at like 2-3iu eod maybe... very interested to see how it stack up against 4iu's of thanks/novos daily. Great thread I have read the lot and see the point of view.

[Suppe454]

I can say this much I have a buddy who was using the Chinese HGH and being I worked for his andrologist I looked in his chart for the hell of it to see his IGF-1 and he was sitting at 155. I have been using GHPR2-6 with semorelin at 600mcg total in 0.2 ml 2x a day on an empty stomach and my current IGF-1 is 305ng/dl I get my peptide prescribed by Dr Lipshultz in Houston and get it at a compounding pharmacy he recommends. I lost 10 lbs of fat and gained lean muscle in 4 months no BS. I now market for that compounder bc I know his peptides are bonafide FDA products. A 10 dollar copay to UROLOGIST and 260.00 for two bottles of the real peptide not the crap from peptide labs or any research associated stuff. That was a cheap way for me to get the amount of my own HGH kicking.

[EasyDoesIt]

Dude a misunderstanding... I meant I'm going to give pharm gh a go. I will only be able to run it at like 2-3iu eod maybe... very interested to see how it stack up against 4iu's of thanks/novos daily. Great thread I have read the lot and see the point of view.

I misunderstood you then. I only run 2 to 3 iu's and it works well depending on what you are trying to achieve. Not running now, but more affordable on that dosage. If i were you and cost is a factor which it usually is, i would start at 2 iu's for around a month and then bump to 3 to see the difference which i feel is big. If you run 2 for a month that is long enough to see difference and compare when you kick up to 3. I would not recommend eod, i think you need to run 5 straight with two off or 3 straight with one off.

[fm2002]

Marcus,

It's my understanding that if one is using Peptides, knowingly or unknowingly, it won't show up on a IGF-1 blood test. Or at best only right after you inject the Peps. So if the "Chinese" are using Peps instead of HGH its highly unlikely it will show up positively on a blood test.

[marcus300]

Marcus,

It's my understanding that if one is using Peptides, knowingly or unknowingly, it won't show up on a IGF-1 blood test. Or at best only right after you inject the Peps. So if the "Chinese" are using Peps instead of HGH its highly unlikely it will show up positively on a blood test.

LR3 would and other peps what increase your IGF

[Miguel2013]

This thread is long and I dont have time to sit here and read 47 pages about people arguing about HGH. I've read through a lot and will probably finish at some point and time. Theres obviously only one way to find out if you have rHGH and thats by testing if, end of story. In the mean time.... i was very skeptic about my chinese Getropin blue tops because I wasnt feeling sides and the packaging didnt have a counterfeit number (not that this matters anyways)

Now that Im almost 2 months into my cycle, taking 5 ui's, 6 on 1 off ( Im only taking HGH... No anabolic steroids ) I am sleeping like a baby, I've gained strength and energy at the gym, Im horny all the time, I got a lil bigger and ripped, sweating a lot more and my nails are growing like crazy ( i notice this cuz Im biting my nails a lot now.. i hate long nails so i always bite them), my mood has dramatically changed... feels like my depression is gone.
Now... Is my Getropin real or not? I dont have the money to get it tested but IMHO I think my source is legit...

This is the Getropin Im buying... has anyone ever taken these???


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