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01-27-2013, 06:38 AM #1682
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01-27-2013, 06:51 AM #1683Banned
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No idea what your on about but I can put rainbow colored caps on the vials, does that add to the purity and potency?
Let me know if that's what the market demands and I'll provide, lol
P.s no Pm's on source or products or you will be reported.
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01-27-2013, 07:08 AM #1684New Member
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This has to be the longest thread I can every remember reading. Thanks for some great info and even a few laughs!
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01-27-2013, 08:33 AM #1685Associate Member
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I dont agree that all chinese growth is rubbish. Iv had good results off hyge and currrently on ansamone on 2iu a day and getting sides!!!! Initially i didnt think the ansamone was that strong and did a week at 4iu a day but then sides kicked in and i lowered the dose - sides are still prevallent and im also feeling leaner.
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01-27-2013, 09:21 AM #1686
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01-27-2013, 10:15 AM #1688
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01-27-2013, 10:24 AM #1689Associate Member
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01-27-2013, 11:05 AM #1691Associate Member
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Marcus - yeah iv read the thread and im assuming that your reffering to the fact that there has been some speculation of the chinese putting in other compounds in order to mimic HGH sides. This is the reason im switching rom ansamone to the Ukrainian Jins. Although im only doing this as a precautionary measure as i dont 100% believe ansamone have gone bad.
cyounger100 - Ansamone is not a generic and neither is the original hyge. they are pharma products!
Overall i agree that you never know what your getting from Chinese generics (by this i mean relabelled hyge, blue tops, green tops and rainbow tops.lol). But thats not saying that its all bad and i think some of the conspiracy theories are far fetched. I personally wouldnt use generics anymore because i dont trust it.
Swith uk - Iv been getting tingling hands, numbness of hands and arms in the night, and iv also got leaner
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01-27-2013, 11:25 AM #1692Associate Member
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01-27-2013, 11:36 AM #1693
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01-27-2013, 12:58 PM #1694Banned
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jintropin is green top generic blank vials with a label and a nice box. also chinese. but they are passed around like great quality. if we take the labels and the box out, post them here, everybody would say its generic junk don't touch those. where's the sense in all that? we all do acknowledge the chinese are ruthless and practice dodgy business, why is then gensci trusted? as far as i am concerned they could make unofficially generics and sell them without label like those beautiful green tops that were some time ago on the market. Oh wait, they do that already
bottom line is generalization is bad and counterproductive, each case much be studied individually and common sense must be corroborated with proof (scientific, not some "bro's" review). this in case we really want to know the truth and inform people properly.
By the way, i'm thinking of a quick test method for hgh identification using a ELISA antibody test, when i'll have some solid on this i'll inform further, unless i'm censored.Last edited by Sheven; 01-27-2013 at 01:01 PM.
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01-27-2013, 01:16 PM #1695New Member
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Yes as we all know the color of the cap and label mean absolutely nothing these days. If there is Money to be made faking a product it will get done and unfortunately no one does fakes like the Chinese. I went to school for graphic design and given enough time I could copy any label/box to perfection. And anyone can do it with a little time spent learning a basic program and a decent printer. I trusted my last supplier until recently so will be having some blood work done. I think that is about our only option these days.
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01-27-2013, 01:39 PM #1696
HAHAHA This page is making me LMFAO!!! I took some of the various Chinese pharm grade, HGH and generic yellow, blue and green colored tops. Funny at that time which was about 3 years ago, everybody was running around talking about blue tops as if they were gold. OOoohh yeah the blue tops! A bunch of guys all bought the blue tops from the regular supplier, it was basically from a batch of around 30 kits and everyone agreed not only no sides, absolutely nothing. That threw the blue top theory out. Then the next batch came in and they were yellow, now there were some sides, so everyone thought they were good and the Buzz was get the YELLOW TOPS, L0L.
Then i moved up in the world, LOL and bought JIN'S, I really had sides, oh my gosh, yes i said lots of SIDES! That 10 lbs of water gain, blood sugar all out of whack 20 minutes after i took my shot, sweating, more CTS than generics, hungry even though i just ate, thanks to this site found out it probably had (GHRP-6) in it. Sides told me this shit if FU...k up. I quit and swore off all chinese. Then i found Sero and started having real HGH RESULTS!!!! Yes my first reaction was "RESULTS" not "SIDES". When you are taking the real deal your first reaction should be results and not brainwashed feeling your fingers to see if they feel numb. Yes side effects are part of real HGH, but results are number one. Leaner, harder, density, better skin and hair grows so fast it's crazy! I think i have been taking 2-3 ius for probably a year and a half, not really sure how long and i am still amazed how the stuff just keep continuing to work better and better. I feel HGH when your over 50 taken at the HRT doses just keeps making things better. It's not a 3 to 6 month product. Yes if your younger and using it to compete or just look better, taken at high dosages of 8 units a day or i guess 15 as some pro's do, then those 6 months are good for that. At 58 i want to stay around 2 and 3iu's max for longevity.
My point is i feel a Natural reaction to really good product would be RESULTS and not SIDES!! I have noticed the salesman are always referring to sides and not results, at least where I am at. Most of these salesman here do not even know the web address of this site. When people take, test or Tren etc. the first reaction isn't my hair is falling out like crazy from the tren and my libido just went to sh...t. My first reaction to tren was holy shit this stuff works crazy fast and the results are in the mirror. My second reaction was i'm not taking this anymore as the sides are not worth the results to me. Some guys don't care about the negative sides, but they outweigh the results for me, so i keep my products limited to less harsh side effects, but that's just a personal choice. If i take Winny, i don't base the quality based on joints aching, i look for results and i'm betting most everybody bases typical gear and there results based on what the product is supposed to do. Seems like with HGH people are looking for sides first and not results. Another brainwashing the guys are selling it promote!
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01-27-2013, 04:58 PM #1697
yep i know what you mean complete fools over at PM etc it still amazes me people waste there money on generics that makes you look worse i guess these kids will never get the fact they are wasting there money untill they try real pharm gh . I have completly gave up trying too help / convince people not to use them if they cant understand that there is a reason why pharm grade cost so much and why generics full of sugar water is 1 dollar an iu then they deserve it
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01-27-2013, 05:01 PM #1698
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01-27-2013, 08:26 PM #1699
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01-28-2013, 12:07 AM #1700
PM is like the twilight zone with how brainwashed those people seem into believing riptropin is a genuine product
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01-28-2013, 04:47 AM #1702Banned
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Black is not a color is a contrast or also called as a non-color. Semantics.
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01-28-2013, 04:47 AM #1703
Majority of them people are getting free shit and etc over there the rest that praise are just young kids that think extreme water bloat and extreme sides and walking around looking like complete shit means hey my rips ,mexis, blue tops are the best lmao. They have a guy over there now trying to push fake seros at 156 iu lol one guy called him out he pmed him and told him too keep quiet that board is the biggest pile of shit i have ever seen .
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01-28-2013, 10:38 AM #1704Junior Member
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My question is how in the hell do people afford 8, 10, 12, 14 iu's per day of hgh? Thats crazy money! Those seem like such high doses to me. If you are using legit hgh, wouldn't that be overkill x 10? Granted I'm not experienced, but Ive heard of great results with much lower doses. Some of this stuff blows my mind as I continue to learn.
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01-28-2013, 10:50 AM #1705Associate Member
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01-28-2013, 11:52 AM #1707Junior Member
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01-28-2013, 02:18 PM #1708
im currently running tren ace and mast p i have been running gh for a lil over a year straight 5on 2 off i switch compounds every few months but stay on gh
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01-28-2013, 04:02 PM #1711
I get serum test on all HGH that I've taken in the last few years, accept for one that I didn't get around to. Some people don't believe in the HGH serum test but I do. It's like not believing in the Testosterone serum test, they both do the same thing, test the amount of test or gh in you. Of course it doesn't test the fillers that they use and the fillers are pretty much what most people complain about. Some make you hold a ton of water and some don't, but that mostly effects people differently.
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01-28-2013, 04:53 PM #1712Banned
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The filler can't possible have this kind of side effects (water retention etc). Its the side substances that some manufacture add to the HGH so that the customers get the inside side effects and weight gain that makes them say "Whaaa i'm gonna be Coleman in 2 months time". Its a scheme pulled in order to attract and convince a huge amount of users to use again and again HGH in order to get "big". It all starts from the wrong belief HGH will make you grow huge, being that the mass market is full of uneducated users, they hit for the mass market. Only a limited number of people do really know how real HGH works so this isn't an attractive and lucrative market for them. Real HGH isn't that spectacular at all except for those dieting and really knowing their shit, the mass market of users is not near a proper diet and don't take HGH for its main benefits which come around burning fat and leaner muscle, most of the people buy it for the purpose of getting "huge" fast. Since real HGH won't make you "huge" fast and even a dbol and sust cycle will blast you way bigger and heavier than any HGH cycle, the suppliers needed to tap into this market. This whole HGH scam started with the purpose to convince into buying HGH the people who want to get "huge". Then it looked far more attractive to downgrade the somatropin dosage and higher the other substances ever since customers were really glad with the water bloating (e.g. PM reviews). Today's situation got at where it is step by step and each year was moving towards this direction (people raving about getting big on hgh, people demanding much cheaper hgh, people boosting the fake hgh sellers). Step by step, nobody wants to sell real hgh anymore because its uncompetitive business and only a limited amount of people really appreciate. Give 4IU of real hgh to any 180lbs and 14% bodyfat average knowledge guy and he will throw it in your face in 1 month time saying you gave him water. Give him RIPS, and he will come back asking for more ever since he gained 8 kg of "muscle" in 1 month. Its the truth and it all comes down to the user, the chinese can make a good profit also on the real HGH they don't need to cheat the quality (i'm meaning the main guys, not the counterfeiters and scammers that try to make 10$ out of 50 cents) but when you can sell methylprednisolone and people come and ask for more more more why even bother with real HGH? Somatrope Pharmchemical is a BLAST in all Europe everybody buys it its on the net on shop in gyms, i was the one to prove it is relabeled methylprednisolone, the German customs analyzed it and its same result, cortisone, but this product is being sold for 7-8 years and still sells good ... what's the conclusion on that? And that one is a Bulgarian racket not a Chinese. Leave the racism card away and learn by being smarter not by out-casting a nation or 1.3 billion, you'll never win that game, they'll take over anyway
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01-28-2013, 05:21 PM #1713Associate Member
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01-28-2013, 11:46 PM #1716
Yeah, your right about the sponsors and some of there sponsors are giving them pharm or half pricing it, and they are endorsing there products. But sometimes what they are endorsing is different from what they are taking. As you are not going to go ask the professional in his field about...... Just an FYI for people just entering this market.
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01-30-2013, 02:53 PM #1717Banned
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Keep trying Jintropin, it is genuine.
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anything F*CKING CHINESE, is F*CKING FAKE!! However it comes in. End of story.
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