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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by almard

I'm thinking to add kickboxing, twice a week for hour......So do you think that will effect my gains?

It will some if you are a hardgainer and/or have a fast metabolism. That's all the cardio you should do for the week!

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 12:53 PM

[QUOTE=creactiveprotein;5387982]Thanks Ronnie, you don't know how frustrating it is busting your ass in the gym and seeing zero results while guys around you slack off and get huge. I will say my diet needs to be a little better as well, but I still get my protein in everyday. So you think I should go with a split like this? check out my suggestion in bold below
Mon - Chest/Back (chest)
]Tues - Legs (back)
Weds - Delts/Abs (shoulders/arms)
Thurs - Arms (legs)
off 3 days

9 sets for each body part? TRY BOTH 6 AND 9! my stats are 6' 217lbs around 20% bodyfat, never cycled before (the fact you have never cycled before is a large part of your problem..you may be able to lift as much as people with bigger muscles than yours but you will never catch them in muscle size!), but I feel like i'm in good shape and I can hang with anyone in the gym regarding weights and sets, I just look like crap.IMO you need some testosterone and a higher protein diet![/QUOTE]ABOVE

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=delta1111;5388055]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland

"LEAN BULKING OR LEANING DOWN" Please explain. LEAN BULK IS GAINING WEIGHT SLOWLY WITH MOSTLY CLEAN EATING. LEANING DOWN IS DIETING DOWN AND LOSING WEIGHT.And is this like I said bulking then cutting? YES BUT DON'T GO TO EXTREMES WITH CALORIE INCREASES WHEN BULKING UNLESS YOU ARE ECTO-MESO WHO GAINS MOSTLY MUSCLE IN A CALORIE SURPLUS AS IT'S TOO HARD TO DIET OFF THE FAT!Thanks Ronnie.

ABOVE

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=delta1111;5389625]Hi Ronnie,
I have loaded and deloaded 4 times now, so i've been on for a total of 38 weeks inclusive of reloads and deloads. I feel I should perhaps come off for a while now. What do you think?
Also, how long should I come off for before starting again?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]For health purposes I would go off for 6 weeks then start reloading again!

**delta1111** · 10-14-2010, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the answers Ronnie, you are awesome.

**Gramao** · 10-14-2010, 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5390115]

Originally Posted by Gramao

Hi Ron!

Im kind of confused with your method

. So say i was going to do a 'conventional' cycle consisting:

1-12 wk test e - 500mg
4-12 wk Anavar - 50mg ed

Instead i would use:

wk 1-6: test e - 500mg/ 40mg Var ED (this woud be 1-8 weeks)
wk 7-8: test e - 250mg (deload) (deload is weeks 9-10)
wk 9-14: test e - 500mg/ 40mg Var ED (increase test to 750-1000 grams per week, keep var the same or increase to 60-80 and run second reload/phase 2 during weeks 11-18)
(deload again for 2 weeks with 250-500 mgs of test then pct)
PCT:
wk16+ nolva: 40/40/20/20/20
wk 16+ clomid: 50/50/50/50 (where's the hcg?)
Ty!

btw: Do i up the dose of test wk 9-14 or the same as wk 1-6? Could Dbol also be used or is that too many orals?d-bol could be used in place of var but not with var unless lower dosage of both where utilized.[/QUOTE]above

Thanks for reading my post Ron!

The only probelm is i dont have 20 weeks to cycle. The max is 13-14 weeks. So what would be the best thing to do? just:

1-14 wk test e - 500mg
6-14 wk Anavar - 50mg ed

And up the test dosage to 750mg week 8-14??
Or split it up unto 2x 6 weeks?

What are your thoughts on t3/clen , to cycle for 6 weeks(ramp up to 100mg and ramp down), is it too catabolic? Or should i just do the odd 2 week cycle of clen on cycle for lean gains?
ty!

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by maronn

hi ronnie,

due to my shoulder problems and a knee surgery i'm gonna have in nov i'm about to start with my pct soon. The problem is, i am not able to get any hcg . So i have to stick to novaldex and clomid.

Should i do your recommended pct just without the hcg:yes!
novaldex 20mg/day
clomid 50mg/day
for 4 weeks, starting 1 week after the last injection? Or shall i do something different?

Thx!

above

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by ricky23

ronnie, which do you think are more effective, behind the neck shoulder presses or regular presses? Thanks[/quote[ dumbbell presses or uni-lateral hammer strength shoulder press machines are best imo. Press behind the neck press is better for some in terms of building the side delts (not front) but regular presses are better for most even though they hit the front felts more because behind the neck causes shoulder problems.

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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-14-2010, 08:29 PM

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**The Titan99** · 10-14-2010, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I'll drop the preacher curls and do the standingEZ bar curls. I'm waiting on my dumbells to arrive. I don't have access to pulley's or machines (Living on an island) and am adding equipment slowly as I can afford it. I have an Olympic bar, EZ bar One 16 KG dumbell ( 2 18's and 2 20's coming) To be honest my elbows and shoulders are taking a bit of a beating. With the equipment I have, what do you suggest in place of the pushdowns or dips? Any guess at BF%?

I think you might have missed this one. Still wondering what would be good replacements. No hurry though, I'm currently trying to get what may be a c6-c7 nerve compression problem sorted out. It really sucks. I've already had an MRI thats showing some funky stuff going on in there. At that point they said I would probably need surgery, but first I should get an EMG to detemine the exact location of the problem. (Keep in mind I've had this problem for 10 months and have recieved a lot of non-treatment in the form of anti-inflamatories, pain killers etc.) Now the Doc that did the EMG said all I need is physical therapy. I haven't lifted this week at all (Super sucks) and am 4 weeks into the second reload, 1 gram TestC/600 Deca / 100 mg provironED, just ending 50 mg dbol ED. Should I finish the cycle and PCT in the case of surgery? (Gains gone!!) They say recovery 2-3 months. In the case of acupuncture/ Physical Therapy would I continue the cycle, just using less weight? Sorry about the rant, but I need some advise from someone over 110 lbs. And from what you've wrote, you seem to have had some experience with this type of thing. HELP!!

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-15-2010, 04:53 AM

[QUOTE=Gramao;5390434]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland

Thanks for reading my post Ron!

The only probelm is i dont have 20 weeks to cycle. The max is 13-14 weeks. So what would be the best thing to do? just:

1-14 wk test e - 500mg
6-14 wk Anavar - 50mg ed

I would do the following:
Deload for only 1 week (cut protein intake and training volume in half as well as take test down to 250 per week and go off var) after 1st 8 week reload. Finish out second phase with 4-5 week relaod and deload for 1 week during first week of pct.

And up the test dosage to 750mg week 8-14?? weeks ,10-14 I would!Or split it up unto 2x 6 weeks?

What are your thoughts on t3/clen , to cycle for 6 weeks(ramp up to 100mg and ramp down), is it too catabolic? Or should i just do the odd 2 week cycle of clen on cycle for lean gains? Use clen/t-3 for cutting only (dropping body weight)! It's too hard on the body and catabolic. IMO one should run tren with t3 andf some GH is also great..ty!

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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-15-2010, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by the titan99

i think you might have missed this one. Still wondering what would be good replacements. No hurry though, i'm currently trying to get what may be a c6-c7 nerve compression problem sorted out. It really sucks. I've already had an mri thats showing some funky stuff going on in there. At that point they said i would probably need surgery, but first i should get an emg to detemine the exact location of the problem. get an mri! (keep in mind i've had this problem for 10 months and have recieved a lot of non-treatment in the form of anti-inflamatories, pain killers etc.) now the doc that did the emg said all i need is physical therapy. then ask for a series of 3 cortisone shots to see if it shrinks the swelling and stops offending the adjacent nerve roots. Also ask for baclophen (muscle relaxer), not anti-inflammatories as they won't work well! i haven't lifted this week at all (super sucks) and am 4 weeks into the second reload, 1 gram testc/600 deca / 100 mg provironed, just ending 50 mg dbol ed. Should i finish the cycle and pct in the case of surgery? (gains gone!!) by continuing the cycle it will help prevent muscle loss so i would at least stay on some test until you can lift heavy-upper body or stay on full cycle and work on body parts like legs/arms that do not involve the neck as much.. they say recovery 2-3 months. In the case of acupuncture/ physical therapy would i continue the cycle, just using less weight? accupuncture is for muscle tension only imo and physical therapy can bring forth further irritation if done wrong. You need to do static holds only to strengthen the neck muscles and again cortisone shots. Chiropractors that are very good at what they do hand out these exercises. They are hard to explain but i would do them twice a week in conjunction with the steroids to help strengthen the neck muscles. . Sorry about the rant, but i need some advise from someone over 110 lbs. And from what you've wrote, you seem to have had some experience with this type of thing. Help!!

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**Maronn** · 10-15-2010, 05:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland

above

Many thanks!

Regarding workout while in PCT. What kind of work out would you recommend as many suggest to reduce the volume and so reduce the stress to the cns. Or should i just stick to the reload routine?

**Jumbo18** · 10-15-2010, 10:55 AM

Hey ronnie, what is your opinion on running deca higher than test? Which cycle would seem to produce better results??

Weeks 1-8 Test enanthate 400mg/week
Weeks 1-8 deca 600mg/week
Weeks 1-8 aromasin 12.5mg EOD

or

Weeks 1-8 Test enanthate 600mg/week
Weeks 1-8 deca 400mg/week
Weeks 1-8 aromasin 12.5mg EOD

I have prami on hand incase of libido issues, but I have never had libido issues with deca.

**blitzkrieg1985** · 10-15-2010, 01:37 PM

Hey ronnie, I asked you a question earlier and thought of making some changes after you replied to my steroid cycle in terms of compounds and dosage: Please help me with respect to my workout routine as well as cycle:

Also, I'm 5 weeks already into first reload.

CYCLE:

Reload-

Week 1-8: Test-e at 500mg/week
Week 5-8 : Blue hearts at 50mg ed

2 week deload-

Week 9-10: Test-e at 250mg/week

Reload-

Week 11-18: Test-e at 750mg/week, Tren -e at 250mg/week, Blue Hearts at 50mg ed
Week 19-23: PCT with Nolva and Hcg

And my workout routine looks like:

Sunday:

DB decline press: 3* 6-8
DB incline press: 3*6-8
Dips: 3*6-8
Close Grip Bench Press: 3*6-8
Shrugs

Tuesday:

Deadlift: 3*4-6
Chinups: 3*6-8
T-Bar rowing: 3*6-8
Lat Pulldowns: 3*6-8
Forearms

Thursday:

Squats: 3*4-6
Leg press: 3*6-8
Military press: 3*6-8
Side Lateral raises: 2*8-10
Close grip Upright Rows: 2*8-10
Calves

I am 5'7", 165 lbs and 13%bf and have a 1.5 years lifting experience. I have done 1 cycle before and it was a test-e, dbol cycle , didn't go so well because of my crappy diet. Also, I don't want to do direct arm work or many isolations because I consider myself between beginner and intermediate level.

I have corrected my diet on all corners now and am taking like 300gms of protein, 150gms of carbs and 100 gms of fat in a day from 5 meals.
Please tell me anything I need to change about my diet macros, workout routine or the cycle dosage and duration.

I am 5 weeks into this cycle and I really want this cycle to go well.

Thanks!!

**The Titan99** · 10-16-2010, 03:19 AM

Thanks Ron. Just saw a new spinal surgeon yesterday. Specialist from the Spinal Center in Bangkok. They had already done an MRI and an EMG at the other hospital. The new Doc said it's GLARINGLY apparent that I need surgery. C2-C3 AND C6-C7. Says he goes in through the front, takes 2 hours and out in two days. Says I can clift with a neck brace in 2 weeks and Max lift in 2 months!!! He told me 100% resolution of the problem is what he expects. Thank Christ.

I've been living in pain for 11 months now and spent thousands of dollars. He says the other surgeons probably weren't comfortable with this procedure but he does 2 a week. Thai face-saving b*llsh*t!! They didn't want to admit they couldn't do it. It just goes to show you that just because you have a medical degree doesn't mean your not an a**hole!!! I suppose I'll bridge the thing for 2 weeks with 250 Test E. Then go back to the original doses. Any other tips and/or suggestions would be appreciated. I feel like Tiny Tim, finally gonna get his operation!!!

**magaton** · 10-16-2010, 10:50 AM

I had the same surgery in Feb of this year. I was fully fused & recovered in 2 months compared to the 6 they originally thought. I attribute being on & staying on GHRP2/cjc 1295 100/100, 3x day. Started this 5 months prior to surgery & still on it.

I'm so glade I did the surgery!!!

Good luck

**VASCULAR VINCE** · 10-16-2010, 02:05 PM

ronnie...having sore knees..... very painful around mid-lower....mid-upper from hammer strength squat machine...any advice would be helpful !!!!!!?????

**Gramao** · 10-17-2010, 07:19 AM

[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5390851]

Originally Posted by Gramao

above

Ty, for reading my post just Ron i just want to get a couple more things cleared

So now my second cycle will look like this:

Wk 1-4: Test e 500pw
Wk 5-8:Test e 500pw/ Anavar 40mg ED
Wk 4-8: Cytomel (T3) – Ramp up to 75mcg and ramp down slowly (Ratio 5/45/50)
Wk 9: Test e 250pw (Deload – cut protein intake & cut training volume)
Wk 10-14: Test e 750pw/ Anavar 40mg ED
Wk 15: Test e 250pw (Deload – cut protein intake & cut training volume)

PCT:
wk17+ nolva: 40/40/20/20/20
wk 17+ clomid: 50/50/50/50

* During Deloads do we increase our carbs or just decrease protein intake?
* Should I Take HCG , if so how would I dose it, and when?
* If i cant get my hands on HCG, would my PCT suffice to get my HTPA back to normal?
* On this cycle can clen be taken 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (if needed) – ramp up to 100 mcg?
* Ron, I know you don’t like using AI’s, but if I take Adex at a low dose on cycle (wk 1-15) of 0.5 mg EOD or E3D on cycle would that keep bloat from test e down to a minimum?
* Would I still put on mass/ or even keep my muscle mass, if I take the t3 at a dose of 75mcg? Or would i mainly lose bf?

Thank You!!

**vicious-nicholas** · 10-17-2010, 07:22 AM

What's up Im nick. I was just wondering what a good dosage, when and how many weeks I should take Anavar staked with test 100. I would also like to know if thats even a good idea to take the two together. I'm going about this on my own. I just got out of the army and haven't really been exposed to the culture. I just want to cut up but keep my size. someone who knows what there talking about please respond. Thank you

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Maronn

Many thanks!

Regarding workout while in PCT. What kind of work out would you recommend as many suggest to reduce the volume and so reduce the stress to the cns. Or should i just stick to the reload routine? Since you will be coming off a 2 week deload your body can handle jumping back into an 8 week reload. This will actually help you keep gains through stimulating protein synthesis and prevent deconditioning.

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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Jumbo18

Hey ronnie, what is your opinion on running deca higher than test? Which cycle would seem to produce better results?? The cycle with more test is best! I do not like the idea of running deca higher than test as test is safer IMO but it would be okay in these dosages if it did not affect your libido.

Weeks 1-8 Test enanthate 400mg/week
Weeks 1-8 deca 600mg/week
Weeks 1-8 aromasin 12.5mg EOD

or

Weeks 1-8 Test enanthate 600mg/week
Weeks 1-8 deca 400mg/week
Weeks 1-8 aromasin 12.5mg EOD

I have prami on hand incase of libido issues, but I have never had libido issues with deca.

above

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

Thanks Ron. Just saw a new spinal surgeon yesterday. Specialist from the Spinal Center in Bangkok. They had already done an MRI and an EMG at the other hospital. The new Doc said it's GLARINGLY apparent that I need surgery. C2-C3 AND C6-C7. Says he goes in through the front, takes 2 hours and out in two days. Says I can clift with a neck brace in 2 weeks and Max lift in 2 months!!! He told me 100% resolution of the problem is what he expects. Thank Christ.

I've been living in pain for 11 months now and spent thousands of dollars. He says the other surgeons probably weren't comfortable with this procedure but he does 2 a week. Thai face-saving b*llsh*t!! They didn't want to admit they couldn't do it. It just goes to show you that just because you have a medical degree doesn't mean your not an a**hole!!! I suppose I'll bridge the thing for 2 weeks with 250 Test E. Then go back to the original doses. Any other tips and/or suggestions would be appreciated. I feel like Tiny Tim, finally gonna get his operation!!!

GREAT! Until you have experienced nerve pain of this caliber it's hard to understand. And many doctors are clueless!

When is your surgery? I would not get back on a cycle until post surgery because the thicker your blood, the greater the chances are for a blood clot. I would give bloos 2 week prior to surgey to lower hemocrit levels even further. Post surgey I would run 500 mgs of test per week and 20 mgs of anavar per day. Anavar was originally manufactured for building strong bones! Also, as magaton stated in the post below some form of GH would not hurt and it would also prevent muscle loss.

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by VASCULAR VINCE

ronnie...having sore knees..... very painful around mid-lower....mid-upper from hammer strength squat machine...any advice would be helpful !!!!!!?????

Get off that machine! The platform has no adjustment and it makes you push from the toes as oposed to the heels of your feet. It's a knee killer!

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:38 AM

[QUOTE=Gramao;5392737]

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland

Ty, for reading my post just Ron i just want to get a couple more things cleared

So now my second cycle will look like this:

Wk 1-4: Test e 500pw
Wk 5-8:Test e 500pw/ Anavar 40mg ED
Wk 4-8: Cytomel (T3) – Ramp up to 75mcg and ramp down slowly (Ratio 5/45/50) (WHY USE CYTOMEL? IS THIS A CUTTING CYCLE?)
Wk 9: Test e 250pw (Deload – cut protein intake & cut training volume)
Wk 10-14: Test e 750pw/ Anavar 40mg ED
Wk 15: Test e 250pw (Deload – cut protein intake & cut training volume)

PCT:
wk17+ nolva: 40/40/20/20/20
wk 17+ clomid: 50/50/50/50

* During Deloads do we increase our carbs or just decrease protein intake? INCREASE CARBS*

Should I Take HCG , if so how would I dose it, and when? PLEASE READ EARLIER POST REGARDING THIS QUESTION.*
If i cant get my hands on HCG, would my PCT suffice to get my HTPA back to normal? IT WORKS FOR SOME PRETTY FAST BUT NOT EVERYONE. HCG IS BEST.* On this cycle can clen be taken 2 weeks on 2 weeks off (if needed) – ramp up to 100 mcg? YOU CAN RAMP UP EVERY 2 WEEKS IF ITS A CUTTING PHASE BUT YOU CAN ALSO DO 2 WEEKS ON/1 WEEK OFF.*
Ron, I know you don’t like using AI’s, but if I take Adex at a low dose on cycle (wk 1-15) of 0.5 mg EOD or E3D on cycle would that keep bloat from test e down to a minimum? IT SHOULD* Would I still put on mass/ or even keep my muscle mass, if I take the t3 at a dose of 75mcg? I DOUBT YOU'LL GAIN MUCH MASS UNLESS YOUR METABOLISM IS SUPER SLOW OR YOU EAT TONS OF FOOD WHICH DEFEATS THE PURPOSE. REMEMBER, T-3 CAN CAUSE HYPER THYROIDISM WHICH IS TURN CAN CAUSE AN IRREGULAR HEART BEAT FOR UP TO 3 MONTHS AFTER CESSATION. IMO IT SHOULD BE USED ONLY WHEN PRPEARING FOR A SHOW AND THEN ONLY IF YOU HAVE A SLOW METABOLISM. IT'S NOTHING TO FOOL AROUND WITH!!! would i mainly lose bf? NO YOU LOSE FAT AND MUSCLE ON YOUR WEAK CYCLE!Thank You!!

ABOVBE

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by vicious-nicholas

what's up im nick. I was just wondering what a good dosage, when and how many weeks i should take anavar staked with test 100. I would also like to know if thats even a good idea to take the two together. I'm going about this on my own. I just got out of the army and haven't really been exposed to the culture. I just want to cut up but keep my size. Someone who knows what there talking about please respond. Thank you

diet is what helps you cut. Use 500 mgs of test per week once you get near your full genetic potential. Anavar is not needed!

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by blitzkrieg1985

Hey ronnie, I asked you a question earlier and thought of making some changes after you replied to my steroid cycle in terms of compounds and dosage: Please help me with respect to my workout routine as well as cycle:

Also, I'm 5 weeks already into first reload.

CYCLE:

Reload-

Week 1-8: Test-e at 500mg/week
Week 5-8 : Blue hearts at 50mg ed

2 week deload-

Week 9-10: Test-e at 250mg/week

Reload-

Week 11-18: Test-e at 750mg/week, Tren -e at 250mg/week, Blue Hearts at 50mg ed
Week 19-23: PCT with Nolva and Hcg

cycle looks good!

And my workout routine looks like:

Sunday:

DB decline press: 3* 6-8
DB incline press: 3*6-8
Dips: 3*6-8
Close Grip Bench Press: 3*6-8 (too many compound exercises for tris. you need some cable pushdowns) Shrugs

Tuesday:

Deadlift: 3*4-6
Chinups: 3*6-8
T-Bar rowing: 3*6-8
Lat Pulldowns: 3*6-8
Forearms

Thursday:

Squats: 3*4-6 (increase reps to 8-15 after 1 heavy set). also where are the leg curls?
Leg press: 3*6-8
Military press: 3*6-8
Side Lateral raises: 2*8-10
Close grip Upright Rows: 2*8-10
Calves

I am 5'7", 165 lbs and 13%bf and have a 1.5 years lifting experience. I have done 1 cycle before and it was a test-e, dbol cycle , didn't go so well because of my crappy diet. Also, I don't want to do direct arm work or many isolations because I consider myself between beginner and intermediate level. you always need direct arm work as a beginner!I have corrected my diet on all corners now and am taking like 300gms of protein, 150gms of carbs and 100 gms of fat in a day from 5 meals.
Please tell me anything I need to change about my diet macros, workout routine or the cycle dosage and duration. increase workout days to 4 per week and do more volume. remember, bodybuilding is not powerlifting and a certain amount of volume and isolation movements are a must! I am 5 weeks into this cycle and I really want this cycle to go well.

Thanks!!

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**Jumbo18** · 10-17-2010, 12:25 PM

Thanks for the previous deca response, and I am going to come to a final conclusion. I am on HRT and my original goal was to cut right after I do a cycle including deca first. My current stats are 195lbs, 5"10, 14-15% bodyfat. What would I seem to benefit more from?

Weeks 1-8 Test 500mg/week
Weeks 1-4 tbol 40mg/day
Weeks 8-10 deload 250mg/week
Weeks 10-18 Test 500mg/week
Weeks 10-18 deca 600mg/week
Weeks 4-18 aromasin 12.5mg EOD

With the added deca in the next reload, would I noticed increased gains throughout? or I would be better off at including deca first then go into a cut next reload to lower my bodyfat?

**delta1111** · 10-17-2010, 02:01 PM

Ronnie,
Does your original arm size (before starting body building) determine how big you can make your arms grow? What I mean is, with the help of anabolics, if a person started off with say 14" arms, is their maximum potential going to be less than someone that starts with 16" arms? or could both individuals finish with the same size arms. Also, when we see big guys with 20" - 22" arms would any of these guys have started with really thin arms amd is it possible for someone starting at 14" or smaller to get to 20" and over?
PS I have also started a thread asking this question to get feedback form other vets.

**VASCULAR VINCE** · 10-17-2010, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland

Get off that machine! The platform has no adjustment and it makes you push from the toes as oposed to the heels of your feet. It's a knee killer!

finally...a voice of reason..!!!! been telling my personal trainer that i assumed that particular squat machine was causing me to have severe knee pain...he said nope...big thanks to you ronnie...i am thinking of dropping him and just asking you question as needed if thats okay???? you actually know what you are talking about...he obviously does not know jack shit!!!

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jumbo18

Thanks for the previous deca response, and I am going to come to a final conclusion. I am on HRT and my original goal was to cut right after I do a cycle including deca first. My current stats are 195lbs, 5"10, 14-15% bodyfat. What would I seem to benefit more from?

Weeks 1-8 Test 500mg/week
Weeks 1-4 tbol 40mg/day
Weeks 8-10 deload 250mg/week
Weeks 10-18 Test 500mg/week
Weeks 10-18 deca 600mg/week
Weeks 4-18 aromasin 12.5mg EOD

With the added deca in the next reload, would I noticed increased gains throughout? or I would be better off at including deca first then go into a cut next reload to lower my bodyfat? I would do a lean bulk with test only during the first reload and then proceed into another 8 week lean bulk using test/deca/t-bol for second reload.

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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by delta1111

Ronnie,
Does your original arm size (before starting body building) determine how big you can make your arms grow? What I mean is, with the help of anabolics, if a person started off with say 14" arms, is their maximum potential going to be less than someone that starts with 16" arms? yes, the guy with 14 inch arms would have less potential given body fat levels where the same on each person and both had the same training/diet experience. I have seen skinny guys get big arms but their arms were tiny prior to any form of training (not after)!. or could both individuals finish with the same size arms. [B]not unless smaller arm guy responded better to higher dosages of anabolics and/or used synthol. It's usually the guy with bigger muscles who respond best to steroids because larger muscles have more receptor sites. THIS RULE APPLIES TO ALL MUSCLE GROUPS!!![/B]Also, when we see big guys with 20" - 22" arms would any of these guys have started with really thin arms amd is it possible for someone starting at 14" or smaller to get to 20" and over? it is possible given they where very skinny all over. PS I have also started a thread asking this question to get feedback form other vets.

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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-17-2010, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by vascular vince

finally...a voice of reason..!!!! Been telling my personal trainer that i assumed that particular squat machine was causing me to have severe knee pain...he said nope...big thanks to you ronnie...i am thinking of dropping him and just asking you question as needed if thats okay????that's fine. You actually know what you are talking about...he obviously does not know jack shit!!! just because someone is certified doesn't make them a good personal trainer.

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**Heman78** · 10-17-2010, 08:33 PM

I'm new to this site and anabolic supplements. I started my first cycle yesterday of omna 250 and deca . I found your post to be very inforing. Reading it was having advisor/trainer right there, ron u answered so many questions that i had thanx for the post. Keep em coming. Go hard or go home!!!!!

**Heman78** · 10-17-2010, 08:42 PM

Thanx man good info!!!!!!

**The Titan99** · 10-19-2010, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland

GREAT! Until you have experienced nerve pain of this caliber it's hard to understand. And many doctors are clueless!

When is your surgery? I would not get back on a cycle until post surgery because the thicker your blood, the greater the chances are for a blood clot. I would give bloos 2 week prior to surgey to lower hemocrit levels even further. Post surgey I would run 500 mgs of test per week and 20 mgs of anavar per day. Anavar was originally manufactured for building strong bones! Also, as magaton stated in the post below some form of GH would not hurt and it would also prevent muscle loss.

I'm just waiting on approval from my insurance company. I'm currently on week 14 of a 20 week reload/deload/reload. 1 gram test/600 mg Deca /50 mg dbol . I just did my last shot yesterday (500 mg Test/300 Deca. I do shots on monday morning/Thursday evening.) For the last 4 weeks I was planning on 1 gram Test/600 Deca/50 mg Anavar . I don't think I have time to give blood. Assuming I get the surgery this week, what should I take leading up to and then post surgery. I can't get any GH. Thanks a lot for the help and thanks to everyone for the support.

**Indian Muscle** · 10-19-2010, 02:32 AM

Ron, how about cutting with ECA and some test? I have some 12 lbs to loose to reach below 10% body fat and I feel Clen will be too much for me as a Ectomorph.

**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-19-2010, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Titan99

I'm just waiting on approval from my insurance company. I'm currently on week 14 of a 20 week reload/deload/reload. 1 gram test/600 mg Deca /50 mg dbol . I just did my last shot yesterday (500 mg Test/300 Deca. I do shots on monday morning/Thursday evening.) For the last 4 weeks I was planning on 1 gram Test/600 Deca/50 mg Anavar . I don't think I have time to give blood. Assuming I get the surgery this week, what should I take leading up to and then post surgery. only 250 mgs of test per week to keep hemocrit levels low.get off everything else! now.post surgery run 500 mgs of test per week to help prevent muscle loss. 10 mgs of anavar per day wouldn't hurt! I can't get any GH. Thanks a lot for the help and thanks to everyone for the support.

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**Ronnie Rowland** · 10-19-2010, 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Indian Muscle;5394917]Ron, how about cutting with ECA and some test? I have some 12 lbs to loose to reach below 10% body fat and I feel Clen will be too much for me as a Ectomorph.[/QUOTE]That will work...