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08-23-2010, 09:55 PM #1641Member
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Thanks Ronnie. I'll have to come up with something better.
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08-24-2010, 03:09 AM #1642Associate Member
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Hi Ronnie, I think you may I missed my question from the other day.
I am 5 weeks into a course of HGH which I intend to use for 6 months. I'm also taking steriods using the STS regime throughout this time. Because of the cost of HGH, I can only afford to take 4ius ed. Now I know from research that i'm not going to see massive gains from this dose, but just really wanted to see how I respond. I also know that it can take upto 3 months to start seeing results from HGH. My question is, if it takes 3 months to start seeing results and say I decide after 3 months I wasn't happy with my results, so I wanted to start taking more, then does this mean that I have to wait another 3 months to start seeing results of the increased dose? or will I see results sooner? and if so why?
Many thanks.
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08-24-2010, 06:03 AM #1643New Member
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Hey Ron, previously you recommend me on a slingshot cycle. I've already plan to start around November but something come out on September. I need to undergo a training for work which gonna be physically demanding as in lots of cardio and strength training. Do you have any recommendation on what type of cycle I should go on before my slingshot cycle? I need something to help me alot on cardio and strength. I've been recommended by fellow forumer to cycle on, EQ, var and a little of test. What do you think about that? Do have any other recommendations?
Thanks in advance Ron.
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08-24-2010, 10:59 PM #1644
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08-25-2010, 11:18 AM #1645Banned
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opinions on....versa gripps pro-series???
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08-25-2010, 03:57 PM #1646New Member
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Just don't buy your juice online. I bought Anvar-10 online. Starting taking it, ate right, swam, and worked out like crazy. Lost some body fat, hardened what I had, and was happy. The thing is, the Anvar-10 had nothing to do with it. Looking at the (now empty) bottle, I typed in the ingredients online. The first ingredient is the chemical name for serotonin. That's an enzyme that is secreted by your gut to help in digestion. The second ingredient is the chemical name for a B-Vitamin. The third ingredient is the checmical name for another B-Vitamin. The next ingredient is rice flour.
Don't get your AS online. You'll get ripped off like me.
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08-25-2010, 04:49 PM #1647New Member
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Prop combined with E? Good or bad?
To Ronnie (or other forumers),
My plans have been thwarted. Not sure yet if it’s good or bad. I was just about to start (per Ronnie Rowland’s sling-shot program) an 8-week reload, 2-week deload using 500mgs of Test-E (already bought), when my physician decided to put me on Prop patches (5mgs/hr/day) changing out daily. I have to go back in 4 weeks for follow-up lab to see if my test, B-12, and D, levels are up within normal range, and then every 12 weeks thereafter.
For this initial 4 weeks I plan on doing just what the Doc said. However, after that I’d like to squeeze in an 8-9 week Test-E cycle on top of the daily patch followed by 2-3 weeks reload of the patch only before taking my next labs. My physician can NOT know about my extracurricular AS use! (Small town, family doctor, news speads fast)!
Other than low levels of test, B-12, and D, I’m a 49 y/o male in good shape actually! Started lifting 25+ yrs ago while in the Corps and have been doing so since. I walk and hike a lot for cardio.
Questions:
• Can Prop and E be used together?
o If so, how much E should I supplement to the Prop?
• Will 3 weeks off E before my labs show signs of my “supplemental” AS use?
Any constructive thoughts or concerns with this plan?
Thanks so much!
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news paper article
I'll get to everyones questions by this weekend.
Here's a link to a local S.C. newspaper article about Slingshot Training- http://www.aikenstandard.com/results/0612BodyBuilders
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08-25-2010, 09:46 PM #1649
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08-25-2010, 11:55 PM #1650
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08-27-2010, 06:04 AM #1652Banned
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08-28-2010, 08:26 AM #1653
Hey Ronnie,
I would really like your help please if you can give me some advice?
I have read so much stuff on here and other places on internet and to be honest its driving me crazy...Everyone has their personal opinions and says different things so I need HELP.
Right I am going to start a cycle:
Week 1 - 12 Sus250 @ 1amp 2 x week (Monday & Thursday)
Week 6 - 12 Stanozolol @ 50/60mg ED
I will then wait 18 days after last shot, then for PCT: (Is 18 days right amount of time?)
Clomid: 100/50/50/50/25
Nolvadex : 40/40/20/20/20
I live in Thailand and have been trying to get Arimidex but so far, no joy...I was going to take .25 ED from week 1 - week 12.
(Is this necessary???).
If it is and I can not get it what else would you suggest/recommend?
How much should I take and when?
Also the other main and BIG question is HCG !
DO I need it with the cycle I am going to take???
I personally think I do, BUT again I do not know how much I should take and when?
Again I have tried to buy this and have no joy so I am going to see a doctor so need to know how much I need if I can get it from him.
So a quick re-cap:
I need your help with what AI I need and how much and when I should take it? (Can I just run Nolva if I start to feel any problems or can I just run 10mg ED from start to end of cycle.
And the HCG...Again when, how much, start & stop?
Thanks very much for your help in advance!
(I have had some advice on this, but always good to know what other feedback I can get).
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08-28-2010, 02:01 PM #1654Banned
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Hey Ron! Long time no talk. Just a quick Q, I'm sure I already know the answer to this, but just double checking. Today I start PCT, and I was originally going with HCG @ 1500iu eod for 2 weeks, along with nolva @ 40,40,20,20, BUT I did not run an AI on cycle, so I'm thinking on dropping the nolva? I saw you recommend an HCG only PCT previously on this thread for those who did NOT run an AI on cycle, such as myself. HOWEVER, I have read several articles on the importance of nolva for not only blocking estrogen, but also for helping your body get back up and running again. Is this just for those who don't use HCG in their PCT? Or is there any benefit whatsoever in running both nolva and HCG during PCT for someone who didn't use AI's while on, and has had virtually ZERO estrogen sides??? Thanks Ron!
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08-29-2010, 02:45 AM #1655
Well after reading a lot of this thread, I must say Ronnie gives some good reasoning behind his concepts. I was going to do another 12 weeker, but I'll try this out.
How about this for my next cycle:
Reload (Weeks 1-8)
Test E 750mg, Deca 300mg, Equipoise 400mg
Arimidex .25-.05 mg EOD
Deload (Weeks 9-10)
Test E 500mg
Arimidex .25-.05mg EOD
Reload (Weeks 11-18)
Test E 1g, Deca 400mg, Equipoise 450mg
Arimidex .25-.05mg EOD
Deload (Weeks 19-20)
Test E 500mg
Arimidex .25-.05mg EOD
HCG 2500 i.u. EOD
PCT (Weeks 21-24)
Clomid 40/40/20/20
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
What about toremifene in place of nolvadex?
What about using HCG 250x2 (500mg) per week throughout? Would it cause desensitization of Leydig Cells (given it's 20 weeks long)?
If Ronnie can't answer these questions, I understand cause he's busy, but would anyone else who is in the know on the Slingshot Training Method care to comment on my proposed cycle?
I'm gonna try to follow the Diet and Working Sets recommendation too. If it kicks ass I will definitely post something favorable about this method. Sounds like the guy has seen a lot of people's progress so he must know what he's talking about.
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08-29-2010, 12:17 PM #1656Associate Member
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Hi Ronnie,
What do you know about Saw Palmetto for use in preventing hair loss caused by DHT?
It's supposed to block DHT from the scalp.
Can it hinder gains from a cycle during this process?
Do you know whar dosage should be taken?
Is there anything else I should know about before trying it?
I will be using it with Minoxidil btw.
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I have the same issues with with all AI's here in Thailand. I didn't have one for my first cycle which was short and fairly mild. Nolva and Clomid were all I needed. This time around my cycle is heavier and longer so I'm going to Samui next weekend and scour the place for some Aromasin to have on hand just in case. I'm definitely no expert but I believe running the HCG while on cycle made PCT a breeze for me last time. As far as HCG goes though, it's definitely obtainable in Thailand, as I'm sure Aromasin and Dex are. Being in BKK you'll find it, you just have to keep looking. You know the Thai folks, if they can't get it, they will say no one can. I can post a pic of mine if you need. You know in the Land of Smiles a pictures worth a thousand words. Read and bookmark the thread by Swifto in the PCT section on HCG. All will be revealed regarding that...
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08-30-2010, 09:05 AM #1664New Member
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Now that I have read all 42 pages, it's time to post. First of all I admire your patience because i have seen the same question repeated a million times (the PCT one!), I myself started to get mad when I saw it posted again and again while u, who has to answer it, remained calm! anyways, I have learned a lot thanks for sharing your knowledge with the board.
I still have a question though which I'm really surprised wasn't brought to this thread... Especially by those who have switched from the "usual" cycles of Test 10-12 weeks kickstarted by an oral...
My question is the following dear Ron: for the same individual, how would gains (kept post cycle) compare between a 12week 500mg Test E cycle kickstarted by 6 weeks of 35mg Dbol , and a slingshot cycle of this form:
Test E 500mg + Dbol 25mg 1st reload
Test E 250mg 1st deload
Test E 750mg + Dbol 50mg 2nd reload
Test E 250mg 2nd deload
Of course we are talking about the same individual, so we are assuming the same optimal diet and training regimen, as well as same pct... So all other factors ruled out, how would you compare the gains between these two cycles? I'm not waiting for exact numbers of course, which varies between individuals, hence why I asked about the same individual running both cycles. But a good estimate about the difference in gains would be great.
Thanks again! Also, great physique (upperbody especially) + your wife looks fabulous!
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08-30-2010, 11:13 AM #1665New Member
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08-30-2010, 04:17 PM #1666New Member
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hows it going ronnie your post is very useful PLEASE HELP!
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08-30-2010, 10:28 PM #1672
how many reloads and deloads can you do without ruining yourself
reload
deload
reload
deload
and PCT for a month?
then can u continue this again and so fourth...or do u stop for a while...basically how many reloads and deload blasts per year?...do u take a while off after you do say.2-3 in a year?
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08-30-2010, 11:08 PM #1673New Member
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"the difference in gains would be about a 25 percent increase using slingshot compared to the standard 12 week cycle. Post cycle you can expect to maintain about 25% more as well with slingshot but eventually gains will dissipate when you go off regardless of method used."
Is this true even if the weight achieved is still under the genetic max weight? Or is it only true if u surpass your genetic max?
Thanks.
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08-30-2010, 11:44 PM #1674Banned
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Perfect! Just the answer I was looking for, thanks Ron. Here are a couple final pics of me at the end of my 20 week blast, hope you like em! I just want to say how grateful I am for all of your selfless advice. I learned SO much from you, I honestly could not have done this transformation without your help. I mean, it's such a CRAZY transformation, that I have countless people on here (and elsewhere) accusing me of outright lying about the time line, or just not believing it's the same person in the before and after pics I posted. IMO, there is no better compliment than people not even believing you're the same person. MUCH credit and thanks to you, Ron.
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08-31-2010, 12:21 AM #1675New Member
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Ronnie the tren is british dragons trenbolone Depot 100mg. Still keep the dosage at 300 mg a week even though its enthane?
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Originally Posted by youngbuck024;533***5
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I AM HAPPY TO SEE YOUR SUCCESS WITH SLINGSHOT TRAINING. I AM NOT SURPRISED IN THE LEAST BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN THESE KINDS OF TRANSFORMATIONS TIME AND TIME AGAIN. YOU FOLLOWED IT AS OUTLINED AND THE PICS ARE PROOF THAT IT WORKED AND WORKED WELL!
NOTE: You will probably be interested in reading what a pro-bodybuilder has to say about Slingshot Training-
http://www.trickyjackson.com/training/
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