**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Capebuffalo]

This is why some wear a mouth piece. I got a buddy who is super heavy weight (last stage walk was 243 at 4%) and wears one every time he lifts.

4%. Holy hell. He was dialed in. Awesome

[DCI]

Tonight was legs for me. One thing I'd like to say but I know I'm probably speaking to the converted but I always neglected legs for years before I got my head in gear but I have to say legs along with proper HIT teaining have helped me burst into a serious window of growth.

From hating leg day to getting excited the day before to the build up of pushing that last rep by mm mm to extreme, from being barely able to move for a few days and the constant feeling of a pump its a serious thrill and high to get into legs that much.

So I did tonight:

Leg press two warm ups with streching inbetween warm ups then racked up as much weight as I could on the press then repped it forba feel set then into failure mode it was intense I dropped all the way down to one plate on either side of the press by the time I finished I couldn't move off the seat.

Then leg extensions and quad raises, only did these because some ape was using the squat rack wrong ie outside of the rack itself idiot and was there for ages nearly lost all my momentum.

Squatted hard and slow tonight did a few feeler sets as I was waiting and wasn't sure how that would affect my lifting. This was instense, I did a marcus on it ears were ringing.

Squats are really clickin for me lately it was unreal great workout

[Hazard]

Off today...... Chest is so damn sore.....

[DCI]

Peasant haz chest and legs are always the worst for pain for me.

[Hazard]

Peasant haz chest and legs are always the worst for pain for me.

I love it lol - if my chest hurts like this - I hit it right. Nothing twinged..... Or popped.... I had great form. I had to tear down tissue.

[DCI]

Legend, thankfully I have been ok injury wise so can only imagine what it is like to be pushing through thebwhat if barrier

[Rusty11]

Trying to go to failure with HIT and I'm finding I am grinding the hell out of my teeth and clenching my jaw. Anyone else have this problem and what do you do? Thanks.

About a year ago, I noticed that my teeth were hurting like hell. Dentist told me that I was probably grinding my teeth while lifting. Didn't even realize it. Got a mouthpiece and the pain went away. I only wore it for a couple months. I've since learned to keep my mouth slightly open while doing things like squats. Just train yourself to stop this habit.

[Tron3219]

Trying to go to failure with HIT and I'm finding I am grinding the hell out of my teeth and clenching my jaw. Anyone else have this problem and what do you do? Thanks.

Breathe. If ur clinching your teeth you can't breath correctly. You can actually exert more force if you breath properly. Just takes time to get used to.

[gearbox]

4%. Holy hell. He was dialed in. Awesome

I rarely see him. He stays pretty low off season and I believe he is done doing shows. i have never seen him with out a full set of abs that show. Then he cuts for 3 months and gets some serious abs and vascularity. Entering pa school at 35.
I was guessing on the weight. Cause i saw him at about 10% and he was happy cause he was still 255 I believe.
He is 6' 6'1

[gearbox]

After talking with him. I understand more about marcus and kel talking about being too heavy. He has gotten to 270 and said he was miserable and couldn't breathe not to mention eating all day long.

[RipOwens]

Tonight was legs for me. One thing I'd like to say but I know I'm probably speaking to the converted but I always neglected legs for years before I got my head in gear but I have to say legs along with proper HIT teaining have helped me burst into a serious window of growth. From hating leg day to getting excited the day before to the build up of pushing that last rep by mm mm to extreme, from being barely able to move for a few days and the constant feeling of a pump its a serious thrill and high to get into legs that much. So I did tonight: Leg press two warm ups with streching inbetween warm ups then racked up as much weight as I could on the press then repped it forba feel set then into failure mode it was intense I dropped all the way down to one plate on either side of the press by the time I finished I couldn't move off the seat. Then leg extensions and quad raises, only did these because some ape was using the squat rack wrong ie outside of the rack itself idiot and was there for ages nearly lost all my momentum. Squatted hard and slow tonight did a few feeler sets as I was waiting and wasn't sure how that would affect my lifting. This was instense, I did a marcus on it ears were ringing. Squats are really clickin for me lately it was unreal great workout

I needed to hear this about legs, thank you, damn I've been getting lazy...

[DCI]

I needed to hear this about legs, thank you, damn I've been getting lazy...

You are welcome this is what thisthread is about to spur each other on. Once you keep at legs and pushing a small bit on every couple of weeks you will see a crazy diff

[Java Man]

Awesome Cape! I think you'll see dramatic improvements in a short period of time, knowing your dedication.


@ Java. Be careful with your leg extensions and bringing them up "quick" as you stated. The start of a leg extension is the most vulnerable for you patellar tendon. Contract, then begin to push.

No worries. I'm always cognizant of the potential for injury. I meant quick relative to the negative because I count 3 second as I let it down and the tension never comes off the shin pad throughout the set.

[AD]

I just read this article and it got me thinking.

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/are-y...-annihilating/

On the surface, it sounds like the total opposite of what Marcus and Kel have been teaching us. But then I wonder whether some of the different principles can be combined or modified.

Thoughts?

[Honkey_Kong]

Breathe. If ur clinching your teeth you can't breath correctly. You can actually exert more force if you breath properly. Just takes time to get used to.

They make mouthpieces that will allow you to breathe.

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[Capebuffalo]

I rarely see him. He stays pretty low off season and I believe he is done doing shows. i have never seen him with out a full set of abs that show. Then he cuts for 3 months and gets some serious abs and vascularity. Entering pa school at 35.
I was guessing on the weight. Cause i saw him at about 10% and he was happy cause he was still 255 I believe.
He is 6' 6'1

Serious dedication. That's wow.

[marcus300]

I just read this article and it got me thinking.

Are You Stimulating or Annihilating? | Iron Man Magazine

On the surface, it sounds like the total opposite of what Marcus and Kel have been teaching us. But then I wonder whether some of the different principles can be combined or modified.

Thoughts?

I do believe in pre exhaust to help with reducing the weight needed to stimulate new muscle tissue but if I was to train like what is mentioned in that article I wouldn't grow. All I say is you should try many different ways to train and give it at least 3-6 months and log you results, if your growing then there is no need to change keep with it and adapt it more to suit but if your using a certain routine and your not growing then you need to change it. Not everyone responds the same that's why Lee trained like he did and Dorian trained like he did, obviously there is more risk of injuries when your using methods what really put strain on your muscles etc but I guess its all down to how you grow.


You shouldn't train like ive mentioned in this thread all the time you should back off the intensity and use different methods for a few weeks to help fully repair and then you can build up again for the brutal attack. Remember there isn't one way of training what suits everyone, try different methods and use what works if a combination works for you stick with it. From my experience over the years of trying every single training protocol out there, there is only one way my body builds thick dense big muscle bellies and that's constantly putting myself under serious overload and training to failure, and ive adapted HIT training to my own little style and that's how ive maintained, grown and built over 250lbs.


Try different routines, see what works and listen to your body and work with it. There isn't one way what suits us all its all about what you got to do to your body to make it grow and to reach your goals on how you want to look. I'm a size monster I love size and thts the only way ive achieved the look ive got but I am not saying this is the only way, try for yourself and see what works.

[Capebuffalo]

So let me see if I understand. What you're saying Marcus, is that if I train hard, get adequate rest, and follow a nutritional plan where I'm eating more than my tdee I can stimulate muscle growth? This seems too simple to me, there has to be a catch. I've been reading in the Q and A and the consensus seems that there is a magic pill on can take to get huge. Now you say diet and training?

My humor before I kill arms.

[DCI]

Next week will be a light week for me as marcus stated above , once you hammer yourself vary hard for a good number of weeks you need a light week or two to recover fully

[kelkel]

So let me see if I understand. What you're saying Marcus, is that if I train hard, get adequate rest, and follow a nutritional plan where I'm eating more than my tdee I can stimulate muscle growth? This seems too simple to me, there has to be a catch. I've been reading in the Q and A and the consensus seems that there is a magic pill on can take to get huge. Now you say diet and training?

My humor before I kill arms.

Stick to the lifting thing.....

[DCI]

Question, anyone else after heavy leg day constantly hungry? Today I cannot seem to feel full

[kelkel]

Killed back and shoulders today. Just an absolute great day.

Heavy T bars: One set with double drop
Smith rows: One straight, one with drop
Spider rows: One set with RP
Front pulldowns: Two sets, last with drop
Shrugs: One straight. One with double RP

Front presses: One straight. One with double drop
Laterals: One straight. One with RP then drop. These killed today.
Supported rear delts: Two straight sets.

Absolutely pumped and crushed today. One of those great days when you least expect it. Heavier than normal weight and fast as well..

[kelkel]

Question, anyone else after heavy leg day constantly hungry? Today I cannot seem to feel full

Happens a lot! Don't recall it being specific to leg's though! Take advantage of it.

[DCI]

Thanks kel, wasn't sure if it was specific to me. Tbh only really happend the day after legs for me, I just kept eating a lot today but clean food

[marcus300]

Question, anyone else after heavy leg day constantly hungry? Today I cannot seem to feel full

I struggle eating after legs but I make up for it on other days

[marcus300]

Killed back and shoulders today. Just an absolute great day.

Heavy T bars: One set with double drop
Smith rows: One straight, one with drop
Spider rows: One set with RP
Front pulldowns: Two sets, last with drop
Shrugs: One straight. One with double RP

Front presses: One straight. One with double drop
Laterals: One straight. One with RP then drop. These killed today.
Supported rear delts: Two straight sets.

Absolutely pumped and crushed today. One of those great days when you least expect it. Heavier than normal weight and fast as well..

Very nice short heavy and intense

[DCI]

I struggle eating after legs but I make up for it on other days

Yeh? From the sheer pain or just from being fatigued?

[marcus300]

Yeh? From the sheer pain or just from being fatigued?

Sick stomach feeling after legs and I never sleep well on the night unless I take a val

[DCI]

Dam thats serious legs, gonna have to get you over here for a session.

[marcus300]

Dam thats serious legs, gonna have to get you over here for a session.

Yeh I should come over would be fun.

If I train I always try my best to get the right mind set its always been something I can release in my head. But I do have bad workouts and then I'm like a big angry bear all day lol

[DCI]

Def man, bring your camera I'll show you the crazy landscapes we have. I think being angry after a crap workout is a sign that training is more than just something to do its in your blood.

Tomorrow morning is cardio and arms. For the first time ever I think I can safely say I'm excited for cardio lol which means I've got it bad. Been an epic coulevof weeks in the gym its all clicking into place from were I started

[marcus300]

Def man, bring your camera I'll show you the crazy landscapes we have. I think being angry after a crap workout is a sign that training is more than just something to do its in your blood.

Tomorrow morning is cardio and arms. For the first time ever I think I can safely say I'm excited for cardio lol which means I've got it bad. Been an epic coulevof weeks in the gym its all clicking into place from were I started

You sound like you have a gym addiction going on. Been there lol. Keep it up and I'm sure you will see huge improvements

[DCI]

They are happening already but just need to shred more fat slowly and I'll be even happier

[Java Man]

Question, anyone else after heavy leg day constantly hungry? Today I cannot seem to feel full

Leg day? Any day! Since.I started b12 injections s few months ago I can't seem to eat enough. Always hungry.

[kronik420]

i feel 'bigger'... looking in the mirror i dont see much difference.. but i do feel kinda bigger and t-shirts are a lil tighter.. idk maybe just getting fatter lol...

maybe its just the 'pump' my whole body is still sore from this weeks assault... got a few extra reps in somehow that i wouldn't normally get... + increased weight on most exercises too..

starting my diet again sorta... well not exactly a diet, just avoiding junk food, and no carbs before bed, etc.. as i can't stick to calorie controlled diets.. can't control my appetite lol...

[Java Man]

Chest yesterday. I typed it all out then went to hit send last night... Accidentally jhit cancel so oh well lol. Less than an hour. Pecs were quivering when I left. Uncontrollable spasms from just being absolutely fatigued. Its what I always shoot for lately.

Shoulders tonight. Less than 40 minutes. Delts are shaking while I hold my phone. I can barely hold it. Fat-igued!

2 warm ups. Smith. Behind the head press.
2 working, real heavy. 1 front one behind.
4 drops. Reached complete failure. I could not do one more rep with just 95lbs at the end.

Rear delts. Seated dumbbells.
1 feeler. 2 work sets. 2 drops. Total failure again. Ended with 15lb db's and couldn't even cheat one more.

Side delts. 1 feeler. 2 workimg. 1 seated, 1 standing. 2 drops. Total failure.

Front delts. 2 working sets. 1 seated, 1 standing. 1 drop. Total failure.

Side.low cable raises. 2 work sets. Light. This is perfect form slow up, slower down. Did some forced negatives.

I'm burnt. Can't raise my arms hardly with no weights in my hands. Hard to lift my keys. Even harder to keep my hands on the wheel. Loving it.

[Java Man]

i feel 'bigger'... looking in the mirror i dont see much difference.. but i do feel kinda bigger and t-shirts are a lil tighter.. idk maybe just getting fatter lol...

maybe its just the 'pump' my whole body is still sore from this weeks assault... got a few extra reps in somehow that i wouldn't normally get... + increased weight on most exercises too..

starting my diet again sorta... well not exactly a diet, just avoiding junk food, and no carbs before bed, etc.. as i can't stick to calorie controlled diets.. can't control my appetite lol...

It happens slowly and I can only speak for myself but I know I have a skewed view of my own size. I always feel skinny but people keep telling me I'm getting huge. I don't see it but either I'm crazy or everyone else is. I vote me. I have the clothes problem too. Even my pants barely fit lately. Not the waist. The legs. My jeans are starting to get tight around my legs. Shirts. I had to start buying xxl because the xl that I wore last year are too tight and I feel stupid wearing them. Like I'm some kind of 70's disco porn star. All I need is some bushy chest hair coming out the button area at the top and I'm set!

Stayin alive.

The point is youbprobably are.getting a lot bigger. you just don't see it.

[kelkel]

Getting bigger sneaks up on you.....right Giggle?

[Java Man]

Getting bigger sneaks up on you.....right Giggle?

Where did you get that shot of the martian surface in your av?

[DCI]

This morning was cardio and arms. Feeling fat tbh, I think its a sign from my body to take it handy next week then go for another burst. Gym partner was saying I dont look bad but I feel fat round middle, not sure if it is from the sheer quantity of food or liquid I've intaked from yesterday as I was saying I was constantly scavanging.