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    I've been doing some research and speaking to some professionals regarding an enlarged heart and I wonder if you know of any studies or solid information if its possible to reduce the size of the left ventricle? I am talking about an athlete who has caused this issue not something what is hereditary.

    I am getting mixed messages and wonder if you have any information across the pond what would shine some light of this condition?
    I don't think what info I have would be useful, boss. The enlargement that damaged my heart was caused by the virus that attacked it. The combo of the biventricular pacemaker and carvedilol helped my heart to partially remodel.
    The enlargement I have now is lifting/exercise related and my cardiologist said that it isn't harmful since my ejection fraction is low normal now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    I don't think what info I have would be useful, boss. The enlargement that damaged my heart was caused by the virus that attacked it. The combo of the biventricular pacemaker and carvedilol helped my heart to partially remodel.
    The enlargement I have now is lifting/exercise related and my cardiologist said that it isn't harmful since my ejection fraction is low normal now.
    Have you seen or been told anything about if the enlargement can be reversed? I'm getting two opinions on this subject.

    So if the ejection fraction is within range ie normal percent you have nothing to worry about? even though the pumping chamber walls are enlarged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Have you seen or been told anything about if the enlargement can be reversed? I'm getting two opinions on this subject.

    So if the ejection fraction is within range ie normal percent you have nothing to worry about? even though the pumping chamber walls are enlarged?

    In bold: Yes sir, she and 2 other cardiologists that were involved with my case and treatment plan said that as long as your ejection fraction is good and you don't have a gross arrhythmia associated with it, they consider it an athletic heart (I still have a mild arrhythmia,but it is caused by a conduction issue of the nerves). Now, if it were enlarged to the point that the muscle became "floppy" and ejection fraction was sub par there is a potential for a problem.
    All of them stressed that lifting and exercise were healthy, but always breathe when lifting. It greatly reduces the load on the cardiovascular system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    In bold: Yes sir, she and 2 other cardiologists that were involved with my case and treatment plan said that as long as your ejection fraction is good and you don't have a gross arrhythmia associated with it, they consider it an athletic heart (I still have a mild arrhythmia,but it is caused by a conduction issue of the nerves). Now, if it were enlarged to the point that the muscle became "floppy" and ejection fraction was sub par there is a potential for a problem.
    All of them stressed that lifting and exercise were healthy, but always breathe when lifting. It greatly reduces the load on the cardiovascular system.
    Thanks for your input AG. Did they ever mention about the electrical signal what passes through the LV and the thickness of the walls? also you heard anything about being able to reduce the enlargement?

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    Kidney function test - all good
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Thanks for your input AG. Did they ever mention about the electrical signal what passes through the LV and the thickness of the walls? also you heard anything about being able to reduce the enlargement?
    Yes sir, my conduction issue is left bundle branch block. It will always be with me, they expect. Caused when the virus has grossly enlarged my heart. They never mentioned reduction of the enlargement but encouraged me to stick with the exercise. They did stress enlargement wasn't am issue as long as function was good. The only reduction that was addressed was the remodeling of my heart by the meds and the pacemaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Yes sir, my conduction issue is left bundle branch block. It will always be with me, they expect. Caused when the virus has grossly enlarged my heart. They never mentioned reduction of the enlargement but encouraged me to stick with the exercise. They did stress enlargement wasn't am issue as long as function was good. The only reduction that was addressed was the remodeling of my heart by the meds and the pacemaker.
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    Well chest is sore so I must have done something right on Monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
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    Marcus sounds like you're referring to left vertricular hypertrophy. Not really that uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Fvvvvck. Glad the PT could work you in quickly. Really hope this is a minor issue, Kel, and not a major tear. Defo please update after your appointment.

    I go in to the PT guy in a few minutes and will report back. I just got a side bent leg view of it a little while ago and I can see where part of the ham is not attached as it should be. Doesn't look good to me, maybe worse than the first one. I don't F'n really know yet though. Swelling may be playing a part here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I go in to the PT guy in a few minutes and will report back. I just got a side bent leg view of it a little while ago and I can see where part of the ham is not attached as it should be. Doesn't look good to me, maybe worse than the first one. I don't F'n really know yet though. Swelling may be playing a part here.
    FML.
    Hopefully, the swelling is making it look worse than it actually is. Will check back in a bit to hear the report. Got my fingers crossed for you, Kel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Marcus sounds like you're referring to left vertricular hypertrophy. Not really that uncommon.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2909423/
    Yes it's very common indeed. I seem to have many enlarged organs due to aas and gh use. What I've been told is two fold one says it can reduce the other says it can't l. Conflicting information but that's a great read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Hopefully, the swelling is making it look worse than it actually is. Will check back in a bit to hear the report. Got my fingers crossed for you, Kel.

    PT guy took one look at it and said it's a least a 50% tear of the Biceps Femoris. Lovely. He asked when I see the ortho and I told him Friday. He said no, he'd call him and get me in. I was in the ortho's office within an hour and a half. He looked at me and said "what did you do now?" Nice.

    He took a look (x-rays too) and said it's a bicep femoris tear at the musculotendinosis junction. He does not think at this point that the tendon itself is damaged but gave me a script for an MRI to better evaluate it. I scheduled that for 0830 tomorrow morning. He went on to say that if it's just a muscle tear he doesn't think that surgery would be recommended, but he's not the surgeon. He said muscle doesn't adhere well when just sewn onto other muscle.

    Naturally I've now been doing some research finding that it's a very common sports injury and that the recurrence rate is over 50%. Lovely. Anyway, MRI tomorrow and I'll know more I'm guessing by Friday or Monday. FML.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Well, great leg day. Almost.

    Extensions: 3 sets normal weight 15 ish reps
    Squats: Hit normal weight for first time since hamstring tear. Slower than normal pyramid up to the one set. Racked it at eight. Felt good.
    Verticals: 3 sets 12-15 piston like reps. Great burn.
    Seated curls: 3 sets normal weight, 8-12 reps

    Went to the kneeling one leg machine and it fell to shit. On second set with moderate weight my right hamstring this time took a shit. There's no doubt I've now torn this one as well. I'm sooooo pissed off. When it hit I yelled instinctively and my son who was on the second floor (I'm in basement remember) heard it and ran down. I've been icing it and resting. Wrapped it as well.

    I am fucking beyond pissed off.

    Called and the earliest I can see the Ortho is Friday morning. I also texted the PT guy from the last ham tear and asked if I could stop in and get his opinion. He's a good guy and we got along quite well. I'll see him at 1130 tomorrow.

    I repeat. I am fucking beyond pissed off.
    Ut Ohhhh. Hoping it is not a long recovery....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat View Post
    Ut Ohhhh. Hoping it is not a long recovery....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    PT guy took one look at it and said it's a least a 50% tear of the Biceps Femoris. Lovely. He asked when I see the ortho and I told him Friday. He said no, he'd call him and get me in. I was in the ortho's office within an hour and a half. He looked at me and said "what did you do now?" Nice.

    He took a look (x-rays too) and said it's a bicep femoris tear at the musculotendinosis junction. He does not think at this point that the tendon itself is damaged but gave me a script for an MRI to better evaluate it. I scheduled that for 0830 tomorrow morning. He went on to say that if it's just a muscle tear he doesn't think that surgery would be recommended, but he's not the surgeon. He said muscle doesn't adhere well when just sewn onto other muscle.

    Naturally I've now been doing some research finding that it's a very common sports injury and that the recurrence rate is over 50%. Lovely. Anyway, MRI tomorrow and I'll know more I'm guessing by Friday or Monday. FML.
    Wish you a speedy recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    PT guy took one look at it and said it's a least a 50% tear of the Biceps Femoris. Lovely. He asked when I see the ortho and I told him Friday. He said no, he'd call him and get me in. I was in the ortho's office within an hour and a half. He looked at me and said "what did you do now?" Nice.

    He took a look (x-rays too) and said it's a bicep femoris tear at the musculotendinosis junction. He does not think at this point that the tendon itself is damaged but gave me a script for an MRI to better evaluate it. I scheduled that for 0830 tomorrow morning. He went on to say that if it's just a muscle tear he doesn't think that surgery would be recommended, but he's not the surgeon. He said muscle doesn't adhere well when just sewn onto other muscle.

    Naturally I've now been doing some research finding that it's a very common sports injury and that the recurrence rate is over 50%. Lovely. Anyway, MRI tomorrow and I'll know more I'm guessing by Friday or Monday. FML.
    "what did you do now?" is exactly what my doctor (doctors) say to me when they walk in the room. My last appointment he said, "Good job making it to your med review without hurting yourself"

    I hope things go well and you heal up quickly. Sucks getting older.

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    Thanks for the concern guys and girl. I'll recover, again. Will try and post a pic of it tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Have you seen or been told anything about if the enlargement can be reversed? I'm getting two opinions on this subject.

    So if the ejection fraction is within range ie normal percent you have nothing to worry about? even though the pumping chamber walls are enlarged?
    Oh man, this was my entire masters thesis right here. I’ll read up and see what i see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Thanks for the concern guys and girl. I'll recover, again. Will try and post a pic of it tomorrow.
    Jesus Kel, you aren’t on any antibiotics are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    PT guy took one look at it and said it's a least a 50% tear of the Biceps Femoris. Lovely. He asked when I see the ortho and I told him Friday. He said no, he'd call him and get me in. I was in the ortho's office within an hour and a half. He looked at me and said "what did you do now?" Nice.

    He took a look (x-rays too) and said it's a bicep femoris tear at the musculotendinosis junction. He does not think at this point that the tendon itself is damaged but gave me a script for an MRI to better evaluate it. I scheduled that for 0830 tomorrow morning. He went on to say that if it's just a muscle tear he doesn't think that surgery would be recommended, but he's not the surgeon. He said muscle doesn't adhere well when just sewn onto other muscle.

    Naturally I've now been doing some research finding that it's a very common sports injury and that the recurrence rate is over 50%. Lovely. Anyway, MRI tomorrow and I'll know more I'm guessing by Friday or Monday. FML.
    Ahhh fuk 50% tear. Let us know how the MRI goes and the whats the best course of action is mate. Really sorry to hear this

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Oh man, this was my entire masters thesis right here. I’ll read up and see what i see.
    Please MS as much information as possible. Ive got enlarged organs not just the heart due to aas and gh use so any info will help because at the moment I'm getting conflicting advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    PT guy took one look at it and said it's a least a 50% tear of the Biceps Femoris. Lovely. He asked when I see the ortho and I told him Friday. He said no, he'd call him and get me in. I was in the ortho's office within an hour and a half. He looked at me and said "what did you do now?" Nice.

    He took a look (x-rays too) and said it's a bicep femoris tear at the musculotendinosis junction. He does not think at this point that the tendon itself is damaged but gave me a script for an MRI to better evaluate it. I scheduled that for 0830 tomorrow morning. He went on to say that if it's just a muscle tear he doesn't think that surgery would be recommended, but he's not the surgeon. He said muscle doesn't adhere well when just sewn onto other muscle.

    Naturally I've now been doing some research finding that it's a very common sports injury and that the recurrence rate is over 50%. Lovely. Anyway, MRI tomorrow and I'll know more I'm guessing by Friday or Monday. FML.
    Well, shit. Let's hope the MRI shows that this isn't as severe as it looks/sounds right now. You didn't have any warning at all with this, did you? No sciatica type pain or anything?
    I did do some quick reading and it sounds like the tendon extends a good bit of the way into the muscle.
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    Well , I've taken almost a week off. Back at it tomorrow. Back/trap feels better but still a niggle in the left hamstring area although I swear mine is piriformis related? Feel somewhat like a a wuss for not lifting and Kel is going all out balls to the wall.
    Mentally still off kilter; this is my least favorite time of the year. Work is overwhelming at times, but hope to be off the weekend. Put off my massage and a dental appointment until next week; don't feel like being in public any more than absolutely necessary.
    Will be better once I get to lift.

    Kel, I have my fingers crossed that this will be a quick recovery!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Jesus Kel, you aren’t on any antibiotics are you?
    Fluoroquinolones are notorious for causing tears. Wonder why the seem to target the Achilles tendon so often? Is it tendon size vs. the stress applied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Fluoroquinolones are notorious for causing tears. Wonder why the seem to target the Achilles tendon so often? Is it tendon size vs. the stress applied?
    I would think so, most of the ones I saw were distal bicep tears. So tendons that get a lot of loading, that’s my gues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Jesus Kel, you aren’t on any antibiotics are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    Well, shit. Let's hope the MRI shows that this isn't as severe as it looks/sounds right now. You didn't have any warning at all with this, did you? No sciatica type pain or anything?
    I did do some quick reading and it sounds like the tendon extends a good bit of the way into the muscle.
    No warning whatsoever. Hell, it was my "good" leg. It wasn't even a heavy weight on the new machine. MRI's done and they said my doc should have it by probably late Monday.

    Took a pic of the "divot" so to speak. I bent the leg to show how the ham now abruptly stops on it's way down toward the knee. I could not put any pressure on it though to tighten it up and show more muscle clarity so the ham is sorta just hanging there. The other pic is from September just to show the difference in the appearance of the hamstring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    No warning whatsoever. Hell, it was my "good" leg. It wasn't even a heavy weight on the new machine. MRI's done and they said my doc should have it by probably late Monday.

    Took a pic of the "divot" so to speak. I bent the leg to show how the ham now abruptly stops on it's way down toward the knee. I could not put any pressure on it though to tighten it up and show more muscle clarity so the ham is sorta just hanging there. The other pic is from September just to show the difference in the appearance of the hamstring.

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    Shit. Yes sir, it definitely isn't anchored/tied in normally. Still got my fingers crossed that the MRI reveals less damage/quicker recovery than the PT is thinking.
    Looks like a decent amount of swelling as well. Hopefully you will get a quick T/A from the radiologist so you won't have to wonder through the weekend.
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    Nope.
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    Pics tell a story. R u in a lot of pain...it looks painful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    No warning whatsoever. Hell, it was my "good" leg. It wasn't even a heavy weight on the new machine. MRI's done and they said my doc should have it by probably late Monday.

    Took a pic of the "divot" so to speak. I bent the leg to show how the ham now abruptly stops on it's way down toward the knee. I could not put any pressure on it though to tighten it up and show more muscle clarity so the ham is sorta just hanging there. The other pic is from September just to show the difference in the appearance of the hamstring.

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    Bloody hell that looks like it is painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    No warning whatsoever. Hell, it was my "good" leg. It wasn't even a heavy weight on the new machine. MRI's done and they said my doc should have it by probably late Monday.

    Took a pic of the "divot" so to speak. I bent the leg to show how the ham now abruptly stops on it's way down toward the knee. I could not put any pressure on it though to tighten it up and show more muscle clarity so the ham is sorta just hanging there. The other pic is from September just to show the difference in the appearance of the hamstring.

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    Jesus... That iswild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    No warning whatsoever. Hell, it was my "good" leg. It wasn't even a heavy weight on the new machine. MRI's done and they said my doc should have it by probably late Monday.

    Took a pic of the "divot" so to speak. I bent the leg to show how the ham now abruptly stops on it's way down toward the knee. I could not put any pressure on it though to tighten it up and show more muscle clarity so the ham is sorta just hanging there. The other pic is from September just to show the difference in the appearance of the hamstring.

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    Fuking hell kel that looks nasty.

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