**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[IronClydes]

Omega 3's, Vit E and be sure to hydrate very well. There are other dietary things out there but I can't remember at the moment.

Kel,

How much, on average, would a blast increase hematocrit levels per month?

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[clarky.]

Thanks Clarky. This is breaking my heart...been waiting anxiously to start this blast. It already got postponed twice for blood work. I can't imagine having to wait another 2 months...and another blood test at that.

I can't squeak by and start today as planned?

Maybe look into this monitor AG is taking about and do a self donation of necessary?

Any good places to find info on doing it yourself?

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

I know tduff nightmare but it is not good for your mate. Yes you could do it yourself bass has good info on this i think he even did a you tube vid on it. But you can look on you tube to see what it's all about. I'm sure samson does it as well tduff pm them.

[almostgone]

Clarky is right, tduff. I pm'ed you the link to the video Clarky is speaking of.

[IronClydes]

Tduff... To add to Kel post... Lots of omega 3s in good whole foods(Ezekiel bread/Daves power seeded bread, etc)... What about D3 Kel?!

Thanks for your advice here Nach, kelkel, Clarky, and AG....

Would really like to start the blast today as these levels aren't much more than my average as is....I've never exceed 52, as on my first blast. I imagine eating right and donating when eligible in 2 months (just over halfway through cycle) should minimize this, no?

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[NACH3]

Hey Tduff... If you can self blood let than by all means do so b4 you start or w/in a day or so - don't out it off though...

All I need is a stint(w/pressure(suction) for the blood flow and I'd be g2g... I did used to be a phlebotomist... Lol

[IronClydes]

Hey Tduff... If you can self blood let than by all means do so b4 you start or w/in a day or so - don't out it off though... All I need is a stint(w/pressure(suction) for the blood flow and I'd be g2g... I did used to be a phlebotomist... Lol

Lol great. My wife would have a heart attack seeing me do this....

Curious, what about going to donate (as if your first time) under altered information? Would that work? They wouldn't connect me to me....unless drivers license is mandatory...damn it likely is.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

I have read on these forums that HCG injections raise hematocrit substantially when taken in large weekly doses. As of 2 weeks ago, I started EOD smaller injections (250). Was considering going to 100 EOD to control this hematocrit. Perhaps splitting the twice weekly testosterone injections up more could also help my levels? I have read that you can combine the HcG and test into one syringe and inject both intramuscularly...so sick if already be doing HcG daily, it wouldn't be anymore.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[NACH3]

Lol great. My wife would have a heart attack seeing me do this....

Curious, what about going to donate (as if your first time) under altered information? Would that work? They wouldn't connect me to me....unless drivers license is mandatory...damn it likely is.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

Yup ID required... I'm going today...

[IronClydes]

Yup ID required... I'm going today...

Time for a good fake ID lol

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[NACH3]

Lmao... At 33 that's funny shit! Hahaha

[clarky.]

Nice clarky! Seems as if your RCs are looser/& feeling better?!

Your crushin your sessions, my man! Well done!

I just seen to get bother when doing shoulders nach and some chest ex like db fly but i never got any bother last chest session so i hope so i've been doing the stretching ex the physio gave me to do i hope it's helping. She said it was not my RC.

NICE, Clarky!! Think you'll be able to fully straighten your arms tomorrow?

we'll see it was a great session mate.

[kelkel]

Tduff... To add to Kel post... Lots of omega 3s in good whole foods(Ezekiel bread/Daves power seeded bread, etc)... What about D3 Kel?!

D's the hands down best supplement out there but I've never read of it helping in this area.

[kelkel]

Kel,

How much, on average, would a blast increase hematocrit levels per month?

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

No clue until you do it and run BW. For some guys a little bit will raise their hct. I know others who run grams with little to no change. I guess we're all unique. Except for Haz.

[NACH3]

D's the hands down best supplement out there but I've never read of it helping in this area.

Thanks for clarifying Kel! I wasn't too sure... But I know it is a great supp! My bad, Tduff...

[IronClydes]

D's the hands down best supplement out there but I've never read of it helping in this area.

I've been taking 5,000 IU a day of those and 2500 omega 3's for at least a year or so.not a lot of Vit e though...only 20 iu with the omega 3's.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

Thanks for clarifying Kel! I wasn't too sure... But I know it is a great supp! My bad, Tduff...

Hey, thanks for the effort!

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[NACH3]

Hey fellas,

Just wanted youse to know that I was able to upload some pics in my profile finally(if anyone is interested go to attachments and they're in there)... Started at 175(primed from 180 bf was 15 went down to 13 then what you see is pretty recent) and weighed in at 192.6 this am...

Edit: unless you can make them thumbnails/or get to my attachments they're soo damn big(the pics) wtf...

[IronClydes]

No clue until you do it and run BW. For some guys a little bit will raise their hct. I know others who run grams with little to no change. I guess we're all unique. Except for Haz.

Understood. Thanks kel

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[Hazard]

No clue until you do it and run BW. For some guys a little bit will raise their hct. I know others who run grams with little to no change. I guess we're all unique. Except for Haz.

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Funny stuff there!!! Lmao

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[IronClydes]

Class.

Lol love it

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[NACH3]

Ok... Just got back from a Red Cross donation drive... And they turned me down!!! I met all criteria... But they suddenly said that my middle veins(on both arms are collapsed which is true at the elbow only - due to my 07 coma/surgeries)?! But not even an inch away was the same bulging vein! But said now from shaving my arms that the area is irritated lol I just laughed...

Needless to say they made me feel like a drug addict... Not cool!!

So do I have to go thru a therapeutic phlebotomist? Or if I can get an 18" spike(no problem) but I need a line/tube w/suction... Anyone know where they could be hiding? . Or should I just make an appointment w/phlebot?? Thx guys!

[GirlyGymRat]

Ok... Just got back from a Red Cross donation drive... And they turned me down!!! I met all criteria... But they suddenly said that my middle veins(on both arms are collapsed which is true at the elbow only - due to my 07 coma/surgeries)?! But not even an inch away was the same bulging vein! But said now from shaving my arms that the area is irritated lol I just laughed... Needless to say they made me feel like a drug addict... Not cool!! So do I have to go thru a therapeutic phlebotomist? Or if I can get an 18" spike(no problem) but I need a line/tube w/suction... Anyone know where they could be hiding? . Or should I just make an appointment w/phlebot?? Thx guys!

U need a link to bass blood letting thread. There's a vid how to do it yourself. I would be afraid Ild pass out and bleed out.

[GirlyGymRat]

U need a link to bass blood letting thread. There's a vid how to do it yourself. I would be afraid Ild pass out and bleed out.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...-bleeding.html

Found it. Search self bleeding and there are several threads. One has list of hardware required and instructions.

[NACH3]

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...-bleeding.html

Found it. Search self bleeding and there are several threads. One has list of hardware required and instructions.

Awesome GGR! Thank you for searching... In that time I spije w/multiple other centers and they were astounded!!!

I could defo do this myself as I did phlebotomy b4 but my very is expired and couldn't get my hands on any tubes or butterflies...

I also made anotger appointment for tomorrow if possible or Monday... They said it was a horrible decision that yhey were honor aware the Red Cross does...

Thx again!

[IronClydes]

Awesome GGR! Thank you for searching... In that time I spije w/multiple other centers and they were astounded!!!

I could defo do this myself as I did phlebotomy b4 but my very is expired and couldn't get my hands on any tubes or butterflies...

I also made anotger appointment for tomorrow if possible or Monday... They said it was a horrible decision that yhey were honor aware the Red Cross does...

Thx again!

GGR and Nach,

I did a search and realized there are more organizations that offer blood donation services. Perhaps it is possible to try one of them? Red Cross may have turned you down, but maybe they wouldn't? Maybe they have different criteria? For Instance, in the Cleveland area, we have American Red Cross, but we also have others such as LifeShare.

Another thought...I wonder if LifeShare is able to track my last donation through Red Cross? If not, then I could alternate (as could many of you benefit from this) between each for donations, doubling my qualified donations....

Thoughts?

[GirlyGymRat]

GGR and Nach, I did a search and realized there are more organizations that offer blood donation services. Perhaps it is possible to try one of them? Red Cross may have turned you down, but maybe they wouldn't? Maybe they have different criteria? For Instance, in the Cleveland area, we have American Red Cross, but we also have others such as LifeShare. Another thought...I wonder if LifeShare is able to track my last donation through Red Cross? If not, then I could alternate (as could many of you benefit from this) between each for donations, doubling my qualified donations.... Thoughts?

Red Cross turns me away on a regular basis for low iron. They say it's not low for a heathy person but too low for a sick person. Sometimes it is just too low for a healthy person. I don't run whatever u fellas take to get this high heocrit so I don't need to blood let.....

I think Red Cross has me on there list as unable to donate. I haven't looked into alternate sites. Red Cross is actually the only one that shows up at the workplace. I'll have to take a look now.

[Sfla80]

Ok, have to ask a question here about the donating blood. I posted my bloods awhile back on anther board just to show support the source....don't really listen to anyone there anyways but was told there by someone that he does this. And honestly doesn't sound safe to me, but this is what he said....

When he needs to donate more often then what "the big red bus" allows, he will go to one of the places that pays for your blood donations in between the times if need be. Sounds kinda "crack headish" to me lol...but was wondering thoughts from you guys.

There is no way I could self letting......

[Sfla80]

Anyways did shoulders tonight with the wife and actually a vendor from work just moved to my area so he wanted to join us. We always talk at work and have talked to him learning hit and watching dorian videos. Which he did, kept asking is this a light set or heavy lol. Or if I said something he asked " is that what dorian says"

So ended up not being a great workout between watching my wife, and helping him with his form and trying to explain things.

Everything was typical though....at least 1 feel, 1-2 working with at least one drop.

DB press

Side Laterals

Upright rows

Front cable raise

Front and back shrugs

That's all we did, thought it would be nice to have a partner, but it actually slows u way down. Spent way to much time waiting for nxt set.

[NACH3]

GGR and Nach,

I did a search and realized there are more organizations that offer blood donation services. Perhaps it is possible to try one of them? Red Cross may have turned you down, but maybe they wouldn't? Maybe they have different criteria? For Instance, in the Cleveland area, we have American Red Cross, but we also have others such as LifeShare.

Another thought...I wonder if LifeShare is able to track my last donation through Red Cross? If not, then I could alternate (as could many of you benefit from this) between each for donations, doubling my qualified donations....

Thoughts?

Just made another appointment and they said there criteria was resiculous(I have veins in my damn stomach they coulda tapped lol... Regardless I have many on my body....

But everyone else(centers and concierge phlebotomists and both said if you were trying to do a good deed I would keep my blood... No shit but that's not a reality lol... Do I got an appt for tomorrow or Monday set em for both...

But I'm definitely looking into self blood letting(shoulda grabbed some Damon supplies whike in the hospital;but that's risky sometimes...

[NACH3]

Red Cross turns me away on a regular basis for low iron. They say it's not low for a heathy person but too low for a sick person. Sometimes it is just too low for a healthy person. I don't run whatever u fellas take to get this high heocrit so I don't need to blood let.....

I think Red Cross has me on there list as unable to donate. I haven't looked into alternate sites. Red Cross is actually the only one that shows up at the workplace. I'll have to take a look now.

I did and there's many blood centers w/different criteria... Red Cross is the most strict! It's actually not my crit Girly, but my platelets/monocytes(plasma) But I don't have a spleen and when I told them that they did kinda perc up but still no...

Blood hero. Com Girly... They're nation wide.... And when I told them about my spleen they said do a DRBC as it has circulating properties?! Gotta look that part up(but I think - don't quite me - but might have something to do w/plasma or something) I have to look it up

[IronClydes]

Ok, have to ask a question here about the donating blood. I posted my bloods awhile back on anther board just to show support the source....don't really listen to anyone there anyways but was told there by someone that he does this. And honestly doesn't sound safe to me, but this is what he said....

When he needs to donate more often then what "the big red bus" allows, he will go to one of the places that pays for your blood donations in between the times if need be. Sounds kinda "crack headish" to me lol...but was wondering thoughts from you guys.

There is no way I could self letting......

Hmmm, I will look into that. Sounds better than doing myself....I watched that video and got shivers thinking of it....I hate those big damn needles! That's why I like double red donations...smaller needle.

[IronClydes]

I did and there's many blood centers w/different criteria... Red Cross is the most strict! It's actually not my crit Girly, but my platelets/monocytes(plasma) But I don't have a spleen and when I told them that they did kinda perc up but still no...

Blood hero. Com Girly... They're nation wide.... And when I told them about my spleen they said do a DRBC as it has circulating properties?! Gotta look that part up(but I think - don't quite me - but might have something to do w/plasma or something) I have to look it up

Just looked them up....not nationwide, mostly west of Mississippi unfortunately....not in Ohio at all

[Sfla80]

Hmmm, I will look into that. Sounds better than doing myself....I watched that video and got shivers thinking of it....I hate those big damn needles! That's why I like double red donations...smaller needle.

Tduff I am not sure about it yet. Wait for a vet to respond to it. I am not suggesting it...lol...

[NACH3]

Just looked them up....not nationwide, mostly west of Mississippi unfortunately....not in Ohio at all

My bad... That's what they said but your right I too just looked em up!

Sfla... Yeah that kinda sounds sketchy(like he's using an alias) they keep track of all that...