**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[almostgone]

Red Cross turns me away on a regular basis for low iron. They say it's not low for a heathy person but too low for a sick person. Sometimes it is just too low for a healthy person. I don't run whatever u fellas take to get this high heocrit so I don't need to blood let.....

I think Red Cross has me on there list as unable to donate. I haven't looked into alternate sites. Red Cross is actually the only one that shows up at the workplace. I'll have to take a look now.

Some of us came that way from the factory.

[NACH3]

Some of us came that way from the factory.

Lmao...

[almostgone]

Defo feeling that last back session. When I sit or lay down, it feels like my back is wider, so I'm happy.
Didn't sleep the best today. My male mastiff thinks the female is in heat, but she isn't. He got a dose of amitryptiline (veterinarian approved, of course), so that should curb his silliness for a little while.
Plan to grab a bit more rest, hit a little yard work, later today, and get deep into a chest lift this evening. . Really glad to read everyone is focused on staying healthy.

[IronClydes]

Good news! Got a second check of blood aty hospital

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

Good news! Got a second check of blood aty hospital 225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

Sent that before finishing. Anyways, LabCorp always reads my hematocrit higher for some reason. My hospital just got my hematocrit at 47! Yeah baby! Blast starts now.

Results attached below. Input welcomed

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225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

And the other stuff. AST/ALT always seem high...its this damage HIT is doing on my muscles....good stuff.



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225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[almostgone]

I've had elevated AST/ALT from heavy exercise, but my Dr. pointed out that they were likely to be elevated with this type of training. Howeve . my lipids are never elevated by exercise. Does your HDL,LDL,total cholesterol, and triglycerides generally come back with these values/ a hereditary issue?

Kel posted a kind of a log/experiment with info on more exacting tests for lipids that you might find interesting if you haven't already seen it.

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html

Really glad your hematocrit levels came back at a better value although it puzzles me why there is such a difference? How far apart were the 2 sets of labs drawn and which labs are the most recent?

[almostgone]

Adex won't help your hematocrit. I'd find a way to donate before you start.

On a side note, I may be mistaken but I think I recall reading that a Dr. Glueck was interviewed by Nelson V. and it was posted that arimidex is actually a prothrombotic in anyone that has a thrombophilia, which I found interesting.


Anyway, as you stated Adex won't lower hematocrit levels.

[NACH3]

My back is also still on fire from Thursday's session... I feel so full of blood... I love it!!! R shoulder is feeling quite well this am... Really happy I worked it light and did not push thru! Thx guys....

Glad to hear/& see all the great sessions going on!!

[zempey]

Well guys I blew this week all to hell, ended up getting into the bourbon thursday night for my bday and lets just say I was a disaster yesterday and still a bit today. I did get a chest and back workout in though this week, but it has been a shit week all around training wise. Next week I am tightening up the reins and getting on track for my summer prime and cut, one more big party tonight then it is back on the wagon. I have somehow managed to keep my weight just over 270 even with missing a bunch of feedings, but I have smoothed out a fair bit this week. If I get done work early I might try and hit the gym for a quick make up session before the big party tonight, see how the day goes, maybe just a quick pump session so I can fill out my shirt, lol. Keep hitting it, I will be back with a vengeance next week.

[IronClydes]

I've had elevated AST/ALT from heavy exercise, but my Dr. pointed out that they were likely to be elevated with this type of training. Howeve . my lipids are never elevated by exercise. Does your HDL,LDL,total cholesterol, and triglycerides generally come back with these values/ a hereditary issue? Kel posted a kind of a log/experiment with info on more exacting tests for lipids that you might find interesting if you haven't already seen it. http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html Really glad your hematocrit levels came back at a better value although it puzzles me why there is such a difference? How far apart were the 2 sets of labs drawn and which labs are the most recent?

Unfortunately, yes, they are all generally at this level. I eat very healthy, do lots of cardio, and they don't get any better. I will check it out, thanks AG!

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[Bio-Active]

Lat pulls downs

Incline DB curls

Seated rows

Preachers

Lawn mower pulls

Revers curls superset hammer curls

40 minutes low intensity cardio

[NACH3]

Going in for a DRBC this am(on way)... As Kel said its preferred and better in my case... It will re-circulate my platelets and plasma while drawing/blood letting...

Will update you all later and hopefully will not have a problem lol...

[Bio-Active]

Going in for a DRBC this am(on way)... As Kel said its preferred and better in my case... It will re-circulate my platelets and plasma while drawing/blood letting... Will update you all later and hopefully will not have a problem lol...

good move, the other good thing is you just do not have to donate as often and you are wanting to donate the rbc anyway

[NACH3]

good move, the other good thing is you just do not have to donate as often and you are wanting to donate the rbc anyway

Yeah the more I looked into the DRBC it fits my scenario much better regarding platelets and plasma getting circulated back in and also w/not having a spleen my RBC is much higher...

And the lady said they would rather me do a DRBC than a whole.... Thx as always

Edit: turned down again... I'm just gonna do this myself... I got a 23g pin/I'll order a 21g and a line... This is fvkin ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!

[IronClydes]

Going in for a DRBC this am(on way)... As Kel said its preferred and better in my case... It will re-circulate my platelets and plasma while drawing/blood letting... Will update you all later and hopefully will not have a problem lol...

Nach, doubles are so much easier. Smaller needle, double the effect on your Hct, and feel good when they circulate back into you. Enjoy. Mine is scheduled for Wednesday. I called and verified that they don't have a way of knowing our donation history with Red Cross, so I can alternate back and forth for more frequent doubles.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

Yeah the more I looked into the DRBC it fits my scenario much better regarding platelets and plasma getting circulated back in and also w/not having a spleen my RBC is much higher... And the lady said they would rather me do a DRBC than a whole.... Thx as always Edit: turned down again... I'm just gonna do this myself... I got a 23g pin/I'll order a 21g and a line... This is fvkin ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!

Damn man! Have you tried different organizations? They have different standards...

I got turned down at a drive late last year for the irritated skin. Later that same day I visited an actual center and had it done. They were both Red Cross, but the center was more experienced and laughed that the drive staff turned me down...just another option if you haven't already tried that scenario.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[NACH3]

Damn man! Have you tried different organizations? They have different standards...

I got turned down at a drive late last year for the irritated skin. Later that same day I visited an actual center and had it done. They were both Red Cross, but the center was more experienced and laughed that the drive staff turned me down...just another option if you haven't already tried that scenario.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

Yes, Tduff... I've talked and gone to 3 different places(talked to many more) found out they mistaken me for my father at Red Cross... And from shaving my arms at my elbow area there's like two ingrown hairs and they won't tap into any other veins(not even the same vein 1/2" down... I've got plenty of sites for them just not where my two middle branches are(they're collapsed from the coma and 10+ surgeries I've had)....

[IronClydes]

Damn, that sucks man. I'm hoping everything works out Wednesday for mine as I'm not qualified for one this soon. Fingers crossed.

I work at a hospital and have access to the tools to self bleed, but damn, I HATE needles as it is....that would be a damn nightmare I'd likely mess up horribly from nerves. Lol

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[zempey]

A little redemption today, went in and killed a should/arm workout. Bunch of kids in the gym but it wasn't too bad, no one got in my way thankfully. Hit 2 1/2 plates on the smith for a couple reps on presses, felt ok. My arms were so pumped, they needed to be beaten down today. I have to get my shit together and start leaning out, my wife bought me some new shirts, xxl short sleeve and they are tight, the sleeve opening is almost an inch smaller than my arm, hope the pump goes down a bit for tonight, lol. Been getting some sick pumps from my new pre workout drink and intra workout drink, been a while since I was taking them. Will try and behave tonight but not holding my breath, some buddies from out of town are coming and they like to go hard, I told the wife to keep the leash tight tonight.

[AllKindsOGains]

Actually putting some size onto those arms

[IronClydes]

Hey guys,

After doing HIT workouts now for about 6-7 weeks, I think I just realized I was doing my warmup/feeler sets wrong....it never really set in my mind until now. Help me out here....

For ALL warmup/feeler sets, I have been using a weight that caused me to burn out within the specified rep ranges: 10-12 set 1, 8-10 set 2, prior to my working sets.

Yesterday I was reading a portion of the thread and may have realized that this was all wrong....am I not supposed to be burning out at all, even within these higher rep ranges, of the warmup/feeler sets? Was I actually supposed to be doing a lighter weight within those ranges and stopping short of a failure within the range?

Excuse my ignorance here....I may have read it one way and absorbed it wrong out of historical workout habit.

The working sets I understand perfectly and am still working to perfect the concepts...I will probably never be perfect here, but not for lack of trying. The sweet spot is an art to find for me in the lower reps - perfect form, but burning out so soon, but I'm getting there.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

A little redemption today, went in and killed a should/arm workout. Bunch of kids in the gym but it wasn't too bad, no one got in my way thankfully. Hit 2 1/2 plates on the smith for a couple reps on presses, felt ok. My arms were so pumped, they needed to be beaten down today. I have to get my shit together and start leaning out, my wife bought me some new shirts, xxl short sleeve and they are tight, the sleeve opening is almost an inch smaller than my arm, hope the pump goes down a bit for tonight, lol. Been getting some sick pumps from my new pre workout drink and intra workout drink, been a while since I was taking them. Will try and behave tonight but not holding my breath, some buddies from out of town are coming and they like to go hard, I told the wife to keep the leash tight tonight.

Haha awesome Zempey. Sounds like fun. I love the pump of a good preworkout....makes me hate to leave the gym.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[IronClydes]

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=156278"/> Actually putting some size onto those arms

Nice work AKOG.

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[hawk14dl]

T duff, the feeler sets are just that. . To get warmed up, and to see how you're feeling.

Rep range should be 8-10 with MODERATE resistance. Not easy, but not to failure.


Akog, looking good dude. I wish I had your body comp. You're developing a great base for when you get to the right age to start. Keep it up.

[hawk14dl]

Did back and bis today.

Started with hypers. Not hit, my lower back was hurting today.

Wide grip p.d. to failure plus double drop
seated row to failure single drop
hammer pull downs 2 heavy sets one drop
shrugs, 3 sets of 8 progressive in weight, one drop of 12
preacher curls, one heavy 2 drop
Standing single arm curls with 5 second negatives, one heavy 2 drops

Right at an hour. Great session

[IronClydes]

T duff, the feeler sets are just that. . To get warmed up, and to see how you're feeling. Rep range should be 8-10 with MODERATE resistance. Not easy, but not to failure. Akog, looking good dude. I wish I had your body comp. You're developing a great base for when you get to the right age to start. Keep it up.

Thanks hawk. Cracks me up that I've been doing it wrong all this time. Damn lol

225, 6', 33, 15% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

[NACH3]

Actually putting some size onto those arms

Nice brother... Those arms do look fuller!!

[BG]

OK things getting back up to speed. As a re-cap I was going to planet fitness to get 100% after injury after injury. So I think I did 5 months andf was peaked out. Started hitting legs with my old partner again a few weeks ago, then I joined the gym , did chest and then I hit shoulders friday. So screw Im back in 100%. Now it feels good lifting heavy again but we are definitly over training. So Im working on that, if they wont change Ill just skip sets next week. But it feels good to be moving more then 75lb db's again


Friday Shoulders-

Standing side lateral machine
Sitting Barbell shoulder press
Standing fly's w/ sitting bent over fly's
Standing hack squat machine machine press - 3 sets up, then strip a plate off down to one
Dumbbell shrug
Sitting shrug machine

Sat Arms-
Single arm preacher machine
Tri machine
Standing barbell curl wide bent grip
Rope pull down
Standing cable curls
Straight bar push downs
Standing high cable single arm curl show off exercise

[NACH3]

Glad to hear your doing so well!i know that feeling after a long injury but it's all worth every bit... And I know you how you feel . Glad to see you taking your own advice in pulling back when knowing... I'm learning this from you guys b/c I tend to do the same(but didn't for the first time this wk)... Keep doing you BG!!!!!

[almostgone]

Yeah the more I looked into the DRBC it fits my scenario much better regarding platelets and plasma getting circulated back in and also w/not having a spleen my RBC is much higher...

And the lady said they would rather me do a DRBC than a whole.... Thx as always

Edit: turned down again... I'm just gonna do this myself... I got a 23g pin/I'll order a 21g and a line... This is fvkin ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!

Will a 21g allow sufficient volume? I was going with 18g since that worked well in the video.

[almostgone]

OK things getting back up to speed. As a re-cap I was going to planet fitness to get 100% after injury after injury. So I think I did 5 months andf was peaked out. Started hitting legs with my old partner again a few weeks ago, then I joined the gym , did chest and then I hit shoulders friday. So screw Im back in 100%. Now it feels good lifting heavy again but we are definitly over training. So Im working on that, if they wont change Ill just skip sets next week. But it feels good to be moving more then 75lb db's again


Friday Shoulders-

Standing side lateral machine
Sitting Barbell shoulder press
Standing fly's w/ sitting bent over fly's
Standing hack squat machine machine press - 3 sets up, then strip a plate off down to one
Dumbbell shrug
Sitting shrug machine

Sat Arms-
Single arm preacher machine
Tri machine
Standing barbell curl wide bent grip
Rope pull down
Standing cable curls
Straight bar push downs
Standing high cable single arm curl show off exercise

Sounding really good, BG!

[NACH3]

Will a 21g allow sufficient volume? I was going with 18g since that worked well in the video.

I was told by a theraputic phlebotomist the other day and she prefers a 21g... Butbi was gonna get both just in case... That vein is only weak on that one spot where they want to tap into to.. A 1/2" down and they got got great flow w/either better w/ an 18 but if I'm tappin into a slightly smaller vein I was thinking of doing a 21g first?! IDK I know Samson uses an 18g butch would imagine every 8 wks his veins could be(over time) at risk... Just a thought what you think? About the different spots and a 21g rather an 18

[almostgone]

I was told by a theraputic phlebotomist the other day and she prefers a 21g... Butbi was gonna get both just in case... That vein is only weak on that one spot where they want to tap into to.. A 1/2" down and they got got great flow w/either better w/ an 18 but if I'm tappin into a slightly smaller vein I was thinking of doing a 21g first?! IDK I know Samson uses an 18g butch would imagine every 8 wks his veins could be(over time) at risk... Just a thought what you think? About the different spots and a 21g rather an 18

It sounds like your situation is a tad different and if the phlebotomist recommended 21g , I would give it a whirl to see if it will allow enough volume. I have read that a 16g is recommended,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NB...1/#!po=71.0526

, but I was going with an 18g, but the link also lists 21g. Your situation sounds different, so I would go w/ what the phlebotomist recommended if she was referring to blood donation.

The info I was reading started on page 41, I think.

[NACH3]

AG, that's exactly the reason she used/suggested to me on the phone(she obviously wasn't thinking as I asked those things on purpose just in a different way she gave up her secrets and said she's tapped into feet ankles etc(again yhsts not my problem just those two big mofo on each arm arr worn out from all those surgeries'/coma** but yeah I'm gonna be looking for a lil kit... We'll see(may just get tge prescription but I don't want to have to come up with s big story but IB can easily I think 18 would obviously give you more flow.... It's just dependent on the spot I pick...

Edit: Thx fit the info AG ... Will read in an for sure... Slways room to learn and apply.

[almostgone]

I'm right there with you on getting the script for the therapeutic draw. My Dr. has mentioned it is sometimes necessary, but the last thing I need is for my T shots to be discontinued because of my clotting disorder.

[NACH3]

I'm right there with you on getting the script for the therapeutic draw. My Dr. has mentioned it is sometimes necessary, but the last thing I need is for my T shots to be discontinued because of my clotting disorder.

Thx again AG.... Read thru that link... Some good info...

Yeah that's what I don't want to do w/my GP but she does know about my past medical history so I may be able to do that(a couple times w/out bringing up red flags) hopefully I'll have a doc(specialist) by then...

[BG]

Glad to hear your doing so well!i know that feeling after a long injury but it's all worth every bit... And I know you how you feel . Glad to see you taking your own advice in pulling back when knowing... I'm learning this from you guys b/c I tend to do the same(but didn't for the first time this wk)... Keep doing you BG!!!!!

Its tough, when you feel good you just want to just crush it. The thing is Im finally training back with my friend who Ive trained with for nearly 10 years, were are both off surgery and feel good. So hopefully he will take heed, I think he will, it killed him to be out with an injury. Thanks pal.

[NACH3]

Its tough, when you feel good you just want to just crush it. The thing is Im finally training back with my friend who Ive trained with for nearly 10 years, were are both off surgery and feel good. So hopefully he will take heed, I think he will, it killed him to be out with an injury. Thanks pal.

So true... Regarding just wanting to keep crushin it but you know it's all about listening to your body... And you are, which No one can ever knock that! I've been learning so much about the meaning of letting your body do the talking! Always appreciate how you veterans keep on top of yourselves and us! Thx and well done BG!

[scotty51312]

Its tough, when you feel good you just want to just crush it. The thing is Im finally training back with my friend who Ive trained with for nearly 10 years, were are both off surgery and feel good. So hopefully he will take heed, I think he will, it killed him to be out with an injury. Thanks pal.

I paid the price for not listening to my body when I tore my calf muscle. I knew it wasn't quite right but went ahead and played all out basketball anyway. And today was leg day and my mind is screaming at me to put at least 3 plates on the bar for my last set of working squats but my body still says i'm not 100%. its hard to resist.

Leg day.

Squats
warm up 20 reps 135lbs
3 sets 8-10 225lbs, 275, 285,
Extensions 3 sets to failure
curls 3 sets to failure
walking db lunges
4 sets calf raises on leg press

I felt good. Still feeling fat from being on the couch for a couple months but my golf game as improved since I've been lifting at least