January 2018 Most Improved Competition[FINISHED: RESULTS IN POST #6]

**diesel101** · 01-23-2018, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Have you tried ECA stack or T3? I like EC better than clen .
Have you tried mast at 600? There was one guy on here (PT1982) that always preached to have at least 600. I personally use 500-600.

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I have hypothyroidism and it took along time to get it regulated so I never mess with t3/t4 other than my normal dose.
I have looked at trying the mast at higher dosage I have read like you mentioned that a lot of people are running it at that 6oo range. I have kicked that around trying it there to see if it works better for myself.

I will do some research on the ECA stack I've never really looked into it before.

**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

Have you tried ECA stack or T3? I like EC better than clen .
Have you tried mast at 600? There was one guy on here (PT1982) that always preached to have at least 600. I personally use 500-600.

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I like 600mg a week also

**charger69** · 01-23-2018, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

From my experience, getting enough fat in is the key to not feeling like shit the first week

Can you just eat a lot of peanut butter and almonds?

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**charger69** · 01-23-2018, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by diesel101

I have hypothyroidism and it took along time to get it regulated so I never mess with t3/t4 other than my normal dose.
I have looked at trying the mast at higher dosage I have read like you mentioned that a lot of people are running it at that 6oo range. I have kicked that around trying it there to see if it works better for myself.

I will do some research on the ECA stack I've never really looked into it before.

You can buy the ephedrine in bronkaid at any pharmacy. You need to sign something and you are limited to so much per month, but it is more than enough. At first, I had to cycle on a couple of days and off a couple because I started losing weight too fast. I like it better than clen .

BG · 01-23-2018, 12:27 PM

What is bronkaid? Is it behind the counter, you have to ask?

Originally Posted by charger69

You can buy the ephedrine in bronkaid at any pharmacy. You need to sign something and you are limited to so much per month, but it is more than enough. At first, I had to cycle on a couple of days and off a couple because I started losing weight too fast. I like it better than clen.

**charger69** · 01-23-2018, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by BG

What is bronkaid? Is it behind the counter, you have to ask?

It’s “over the counter “ but you need to ask the pharmacist because it is stored in the controlled area where prescriptions are.
In other words, it is behind the counter so you need to ask for it but no prescription is required.
They control its distribution because ephedrine is used in some narcotic.

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**diesel101** · 01-23-2018, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

It’s “over the counter “ but you need to ask the pharmacist because it is stored in the controlled area where prescriptions are.
In other words, it is behind the counter so you need to ask for it but no prescription is required.
They control its distribution because ephedrine is used in some narcotic.

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What dosage and Length of time do you run it for?

**Capebuffalo** · 01-23-2018, 12:49 PM

Did some light stretching.
Tied my shoe.
Walked to the water fountain
Watched some aerobics.
Walked back to the water fountain.

Think I’ll do it in reverse order tomorrow. Good workout.

**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by diesel101

What dosage and Length of time do you run it for?

The "standard" dose is 25mg ephedrine (1 bronkaid) 200mg caffeine and 1 aspirin. You can take it several times a day, but be careful about taking it too late, or you won't sleep

**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 01:46 PM

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I get mine from Walgreens. You can buy two boxes at a time, every 21 days

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

The "standard" dose is 25mg ephedrine (1 bronkaid) 200mg caffeine and 1 aspirin. You can take it several times a day, but be careful about taking it too late, or you won't sleep

I just got bronkaid the other day. Great product.

**charger69** · 01-23-2018, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

The "standard" dose is 25mg ephedrine (1 bronkaid) 200mg caffeine and 1 aspirin. You can take it several times a day, but be careful about taking it too late, or you won't sleep

I wouldn’t go over 100 mg per day. I usually am 50-75mg per day.
This is also a great preworkout!

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

I wouldn’t go over 100 mg per day. I usually am 50-75mg per day.
This is also a great preworkout!

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Obs told me not to go over 100mgs also, although I have before, I don't anymore. I usually take it twice a day, once in morning and once after lunch

**diesel101** · 01-23-2018, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

I wouldn’t go over 100 mg per day. I usually am 50-75mg per day.
This is also a great preworkout!

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Taking an aspirin everytime also?

**RaginCajun** · 01-23-2018, 04:52 PM

Been a while since I’ve done an ECA stack and just might do it towards mid February, after Mardi Gras. May leave out the aspirin since I have asthma

**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by diesel101

Taking an aspirin everytime also?

I just take aspirin once

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 06:06 PM

I take 81 mg aspirin in the AM and then in the PM. Do it just for heart health. Used to do it only at night but they are so cheap I got in the habit of putting them in my AM old man pill dispenser too. Most aspirin one should take daily is 325 to avoid stomach issues.

**RaginCajun** · 01-23-2018, 06:14 PM

40 more minutes of cardio, 25 on the treadmill on incline, and 15 on the bike

**MuscleScience** · 01-23-2018, 06:23 PM

Legs today,

Squats went pretty good, I took my time this workout got adequate rest between sets. Just trying to enjoy my time in the gym. Got 20mins of hiit at the end. Here a little update pic.

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleScience

Legs today,

Squats went pretty good, I took my time this workout got adequate rest between sets. Just trying to enjoy my time in the gym. Got 20mins of hot at the end. Here a little update pic.

Looking good ms, you definitely gonna be one to beat!

**charger69** · 01-23-2018, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by diesel101

Taking an aspirin everytime also?

I do not because the studies I have read say that the aspirin only has an effect on obese people.
Obviously, it is good for thinning your blood if you want that.

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:23 PM

Possible for elevated hemoglobin to cause back pain? I'm getting desperate to figure out what the "other" pain in my back is. It's totally different from any back pain I've had before, and I believe is unrelated to my spinal problems. I'm starting to fear organ related, that's why I stopped my cycle. I'm long overdue for needing to donate, and wondering if that could have anything to do with it. I searched it and found a few articles that suggest it's possible. Gonna look for somewhere to donate tomorrow

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Possible for elevated hemoglobin to cause back pain? I'm getting desperate to figure out what the "other" pain in my back is. It's totally different from any back pain I've had before, and I believe is unrelated to my spinal problems. I'm starting to fear organ related, that's why I stopped my cycle. I'm long overdue for needing to donate, and wondering if that could have anything to do with it. I searched it and found a few articles that suggest it's possible. Gonna look for somewhere to donate tomorrow

Is it close to your flank?

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:33 PM

It's on the right side of my back, nearly on my side, bout halfway between ribs and waist. Hurts mostly when I sit or bend over

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

It's on the right side of my back, nearly on my side, bout halfway between ribs and waist. Hurts mostly when I sit or bend over

I bet you got yourself a kidney stone

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:33 PM

I had my kidneys checked a few months ago, no infection

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

I had my kidneys checked a few months ago, no infection

It will only show up on a CT scan

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by David LoPan

I bet you got yourself a kidney stone

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Would that show up on MRI?
Oops, just saw your post bout ct scan

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Would that show up on MRI?

Depends on the size and if they were looking for it.

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by David LoPan

I bet you got yourself a kidney stone

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If so, that's what I get for quitting drinking beer everyday!

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

If so, that's what I get for quitting drinking beer everyday!

Or the beer caused it. I could not tell if my urologist was kidding or not when I git them.

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by David LoPan

Depends on the size and if they were looking for it.

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They probably wasn't, because they were looking st my discs

**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by David LoPan

Or the beer caused it. I could not tell if my urologist was kidding or not when I git them.

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Been drinking all my life with never having a stone. Quit drinking in June, and now I'm falling apart...lol

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

They probably wasn't, because they were looking st my discs

Trip to ER if it is small enough to pass. It's like a razor blade tearing apart everything. Hydromorphone was the only thing that helped me. Then had to have surgery to get the big fuckers out.

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**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 07:48 PM

Yea, I take my wife once a year to er with stones. Could it last for months?

**David LoPan** · 01-23-2018, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

Yea, I take my wife once a year to er with stones. Could it last for months?

Yes, and the pain will get worse. Google kidney stone images and you will see why.

**guitarzan** · 01-23-2018, 08:57 PM

Thanks David. My sister is a X-ray tech, I'll check with her tomorrow and see if she does ct scans also. If so I can get it for free!

**MuscleScience** · 01-23-2018, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by guitarzan

They probably wasn't, because they were looking st my discs

Typically you will get most of the abdominal cavity in a lower lumbar MRI. Depending on the center and what the Radiologist likes. But I’ve seen a number of kidneys stones imcedently on Lumbar MRI.

**tarmyg** · 01-24-2018, 02:19 AM

Lunch

**tarmyg** · 01-24-2018, 04:40 AM

Training today sucked. My body and mind was completely fried. No matter how much I tried I could never really get going. Today was more of getting through it, at all. At several points I considered just leaving but luckily I got training partners to keep me in check.

Strict Handstand Push-ups
30 Strict Handstand Push-ups
Rest 2:00
30 Strict Handstand Push-ups

3-Position Power Clean
Build to a Heavy Complex
NOTE: Built to a crappy 80kg

Conditioning
3 Rounds:
15 Hang Power Cleans - 52kg
15 Barbell-Facing Burpees

Row Conditioning
5 Rounds:
35 Calorie Row
Rest 1:00 between efforts