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08-17-2011, 06:18 AM #3281
Thanks for the fast reply Ron,
Today i was at my lowest of 190, which is not bad, im 2 and a half weeks in and was 194 to start so i may just be jumping the gun.
i think i am only getting 70-80 fats a day which is around 630-700 calories total. If i was to drop 500 calories of those I would be getting 10-12 grams of fat total and that would put me around 1750 calories a day.
That would definetly get me to lose weight but I dont know if i want to go that extreme the first 2 weeks in. I would be scared i wouldnt have much room to move when i got leaner but still need to lose to get under the 10%.
If i plateued at 1750 with 5-6 days of cardio.. where would i go from there?
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08-18-2011, 12:23 PM #3283
Thanks for the answer! I'm taking your advice man...
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08-18-2011, 03:34 PM #3284Associate Member
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Ho Ronnie, "GTF Chromium" what do you think of this as an alternative ti taking insulin ?
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Hey Ron,
I guess it's generally standard practice to reduce Test during cuts. I am wondering why this is. Maybe to reduce water retention? I'm currently doing a slow cut and am quite successfully losing fat while actually gaining strength. My diet is spot on now and I'm doing 5-6 days of cardio a week My steroid regime is fairly heavy I think since I've been blasting for a little over a year now. I'm in the fourth week of a 12 week cut. My cycle is Test Prop 700mg/Tren E 950 mg/Masteron E 500 mg/Anavar 100 mg ed/Proviron 50 mg ed as well as clen at 25 mcg's a day, going to increase each week through the end of October. Why or why not would it be a good/bad idea to increase Test to say 1000 mg? My girlfriend is coming from Belgium and although I haven't had any ed or libido problems in the past, I've always been higher on Test than Tren and I've never run this much Var at once before. Thanks!
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08-18-2011, 09:28 PM #3286New Member
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Awesome post, very thorough!
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08-18-2011, 10:18 PM #3287New Member
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Hey Ron
Im not ready to blast and cruise as im not at that level yet. Can i apply your philosophy to cycling though? Im about to run a Sustanon250 & Dbol cycle. Since i would like to keep it at 8 weeks, i would do my last pin week 5 & start my PCT 3 weeks after that. Am i on the right track?
Sustanon250 3x a week M/W/F
Dbol 50mgs ED all the way through
Is this 8 weeker enough to grow? My goal is 5 - 10lbs... Im currently 32yrs old 5'10 208lbs. with two cycles under my belt.
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08-20-2011, 10:37 AM #3291Member
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Hey Ronnie,
Im referring to your response in post 3251.
im curious why test/tren /d-bol or Adrol would be more potent then test/tren/mast? If i ran Adrol what dosage would you recommend?
since hgh is a bit expensive its off the table for me atm. or my real question is at what point of a total blood mg level of steroids would you need to take it to the next level with the hgh, 1gram, 2 grams? or would running 8iu hgh with a trt dose of test give you better lean gains then a high dose steroid regimen?
i can shuffle my order around to pick up some hgh if you think its better to go that route.
also, for the hgh, year around, 6 months on? blast/cruise with hgh?
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08-20-2011, 10:38 AM #3292Member
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"no do last 9 week 8 and then start pct week 9. And slingshot is also for beginners. Short cycles cause more muscle loss when you come off because it does not give the body enough time to adjust to the new muscle mass gained." post 3291.
for someone that has been on longer what would you say the cycle length needs to be?
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08-20-2011, 12:25 PM #3293New Member
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Awesome info Ronnie..
I am really interested trying this type of training because of its strengh gains.. What i don't really happen to me is get huge because boxing is my sport and huge muscles don't help at all.. I know i have to be eat less calories than someone who wants to get huge but i am a little confused.. A friend of mine suggested m to try Anabolic diet ( high protein, high fats, low carbs during the week and carb load during weekends).. What is your thought on this type of diet? Finally a cycle of test,deca will it help me with boxing?
Thanks a lot..
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[QUOTE=darkcrayz;5725458]"no do last 9 week 8 and then start pct week 9. And slingshot is also for beginners. Short cycles cause more muscle loss when you come off because it does not give the body enough time to adjust to the new muscle mass gained." post 3291.
for someone that has been on longer what would you say the cycle length needs to be? 20 weeks minumum (consisting of 2 reloads/2deloads)[/QUOTE]above
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08-20-2011, 04:08 PM #3297New Member
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Thank you very much Ronnie.. Whenever it's possible for you could you give me a cycle plan (weeks, dosages, antiestrogens, anti progesterones) with test deca winny..?
I will follow your advice and stay with the carbs..
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RUN CABERGOLINE TWICE WEEKLY. USE PROVIRON AT 50 MGS DAILY FOR ESTROGEN CONTROL.
1ST RELOAD-weeks 1-8
test 500 mgs weekly
deca 300 mgs weekly
wintrol tabs 50 MGS daily
1ST DELOAD weeks 9-10
test 250 mgs weekly
2ND RELOAD WEEKS 11-18
500 MGS OF TEST WEEKLY
300 MGS OF DECA WEEKLY
75 MGS OF ANADROL DAILY
2ND DELOAD WEEKS 19-20
250 MGS OF TEST WEEKLY
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08-20-2011, 09:45 PM #3299Member
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08-21-2011, 09:32 PM #3300New Member
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So if i ran it for 20 weeks with the reload and deload, wouldnt that make my recovery harder when i come off leading to more muscleloss. Im not looking to stay on permanently as of yet. Sorry just a bit confused, i do understand your concept ; i just dont know how it would apply to me.
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Hey Ron,
I've had a shoulder injury that"s bothered me for a couple of months now. Thanks to the help from a Physio Therapist it's gotten a lot better but it still bothers me on chest day. I can do Incline bench with no problem at all, decline hurts and flat bench is OK at light weight, but when I get to higher reps it starts to bother me, although not as bad as before. I know I need to not do the movements that hurt and I'm trying to put together some sort of chest workout. Should I just do 8 sets of incline? Tonight I did incline first, three light sets of flat bench and some real light weight cable crossovers really slow and really squeezed it at the end. I'm worried that my chest is lagging since it's been a couple of months since I've been really able to work it. Any exercises you can think of to go with the incline, or would incline be all I should do for now?
BTW, the 8 sets of rope pushdowns you told me to do while my elbows recover (they are great now but I'm waiting for another 2 weeks and then adding something else.) This advice has worked perfectly!!! I still feel like I'm getting good stimulation of the tri. Thanks.Last edited by The Titan99; 08-23-2011 at 06:38 PM.
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08-23-2011, 08:10 AM #3304
WHen would you add the t3 and clen and at what dosage for each. Would i wait for a platuea or add it now. I was always scared to mess with my thyroid so i didnt look into t3 much. Can i get away with a smaller dose without risking any harm to my thyroid.
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08-24-2011, 06:10 AM #3307
I like this protocol as it seems safer to me then others ive seen.
Also, I can get 25mcg pharma grade t3 but dosing at 33.3 would seem diffucult. Im sure i could get liquid t3 and dose it easier but it seems I always trust pharma over other things.
EDIT... I guess i will go with the liquid as it would be easier to get the 33.3Last edited by slimshady01; 08-24-2011 at 07:42 AM.
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08-24-2011, 02:32 PM #3308Quote Originally Posted by Gi812Many View Post
Ronnie, im running into my 6th week of Test E, Tren E and EQ . I have been on Aromasin from Ar-r from the get go. Upped the dosage to 15mgs at the end of my second week. I formed gyno , hard lumps around the nipple...I had surgery to remove them twice roughly 8 years ago. Im prone to them. They are not nearly as big as when I had them removed but, still present and still decent size. Any suggestion on changing to something other than the Aromasin ? try nolvadex at 40 mgs per day because you can run it year round while not messing up your cholesterol levels. Also, probably a stupid question but, im doing your slingshot cycling...Should I stay on a AI year around while cycling? looks like you will have to stay on anti-es. try nolvadex and 40 per day and try to work your way down to 20 per day
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08-24-2011, 03:17 PM #3309
A great read Ronnie. I started early this morning and had to take breaks as my eyes started getting blurred. I also started to read the sling shot thread/page(s) Will have to finish that read on my days off from work.....Fascinating info provided Ronnie. I joined today so this is my first post….Hope I can attain the 50+ post?
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Got it Ron, thanks. I have some elbow and knee wraps coming.
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08-25-2011, 11:18 PM #3311Member
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did some research; will post new questions.
Last edited by darkcrayz; 08-27-2011 at 12:08 PM. Reason: did some research; will post new questions.
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08-26-2011, 04:25 PM #3312
Spasibo za otpravku Rossii novosti??
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08-26-2011, 05:31 PM #3313New Member
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Sir i have been taking Androlic 50mg British Dispens from 5 weeks .. but from last 2 months i`am working out without any steroid and supplements..and now i`m feeling really sick from last 1 month and not even going to gym..i`m suffering from diarrhea,nausea,shortness of breath and theres too much pain in my legs... can you please suggest me what to do.. if there is any washout for these steroids then please let me know....
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08-26-2011, 05:33 PM #3314New Member
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Sir i have been taking Androlic 50mg British Dispens from 5 weeks .. but from last 2 months i`am working out without any steroid and supplements ..and now i`m feeling really sick from last 1 month and not even going to gym..i`m suffering from diarrhea,nausea,shortness of breath and theres too much pain in my legs... can you please suggest me what to do.. if there is any washout for these steroids then please let me know....
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08-27-2011, 03:22 AM #3315
Hi Ron,
In reference to 8week reload can this be brought down to 6 weeks followed by 2 weeks deload. I have noticed with 8 weeks reload towards the end of it (wk7/8) I am feeling really burned out, with sore joints and very much looking forward to deload. So will 6/2 work as well as 8/2 with all the same principles of workout sets and diet
Thanks
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08-27-2011, 08:49 AM #3316Associate Member
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Hi Ronnie,
I know you don't encourage the use of insulin as an anabolic tool, but I have decided to go ahead and try it anyway. I was hoping that despite your feelings on the drug, you could offer some advise anyway.
My reasons for trying insulin is because I feel that no matter how much I eat, I don't utilise any where near the nutrients I should be. This is where I believe insulin will help me.
I will be starting next week at 2ius of fast acting insulin post w/o, increasing this by 1iu per day until I reach a maximum of 10ius.
I will be injecting only once per day post work out, as this is my first insulin cycle.
I will be consuming a carb drink consisting of 90 grams of carbs straight after injection, then chicken and rice 1 hour later.
I will carry glucose tablets with me at all times incase of hypo.
Cycle length will be 4 weeks on 4 weeks off.
I have been reading about this subject for some time now and feel as though my plan is pretty sound, but would like input if possible.
On one of the threads I read, it advised that you should not do post w/o injections as you already have a natural nutrient uptake window that was provided by your workout. It says you should use that window first, then use insulin after that window has closed, thus giving your body 2 nutrient uptake windows. Does this make sense? It also says that an advanced insulin user would inject 3 times per day, so as to be in an anabolic state all day.
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08-27-2011, 12:38 PM #3317Member
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Ronnie,
Been doing some research on what you said in response to my last question and came up with some new ideas.
for me.
Im going to run one more week of 450mg test/300mg tren then im going to deload for 2 weeks; im burned out. this is what im thinking for the next 8 months barring any major injuries.
1 week - finish cycle
450 mg test e
300mg tren a
2 weeks - deload
450 mg test e
50mg Adrol/day
12 weeks - long reload, cut
300 mg test e
450mg tren a
200mcg ghrp2, (2x100mcg, morning, pre-bed(
2 week - deload
450mg mg test e
200mcg ghrp2, (2x100mcg, morning, pre-bed)
12 weeks - reload, bulk
300mg test e
600mg deca
200mcg ghrp 2; (2x100mcg, morning, pre-bed)
200mcg ghrp 6 (or another peptide you recommend; same dosing as ghrp2)
i have been doing some research on peptides and found a place that sells them cheaper then AR that is recommended. I have issues sleeping on Tren atm and I was thinking of running a low dose ghrp2 with the higher tren dose to get better sleep/recovery. I train after work at night so I would do a shot in the morning and 1 pwo that is also essentially bed time. when i run my bulk ill add ghrp6 in since that helps with appetite. i plan on running the peptides 5 on/2 off. and the reading i did based on those doses should give me roughly 4-6hgh iu equivalency.
for my wife.
my wife is getting breast implants late september (excited). after that she wants to really lean out. we are looking at running a cycle for her.
90 days
5 mg anavar /day
25mcg t3/day
10mg nolva/day
peptides? ghrp2 or IPA 1x100mcg prebed.
i was thinking of having her run a super low dose ghrp2 since it would be cheap. what are you thoughts on that? Can my wife start running that prior to her surgery to help with fat loss, recovery?
also, after i reconstitute the peptides, i know they need to stay in the fridge and away from light, but how long do they last?
thanks for your help.
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08-28-2011, 04:41 PM #3318New Member
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Ok that looks brilliant.. Thank you very much for your suggestion.. By the way I have read that starting a aas cycle with quite high bodyfat isn't a good idea.. My bodyfat is around 15-16% and i was wondering ronnie if it would be better to lose some bodyfat while gaining some muscle and hopefully a lot of strengh during my first 20 week slingshot cycle with proper diet and cardio (boxing class) and then start a new 20 week cycle with aas when i hopefully be around 10-11% bodyfat..
Maybe in the first 20 week cycle throw in some clen and/or anavar but i am not really sure if it's a good idea.. What are your thoughts on this? If my bodyfat isn't a problem i'll stay with your plan and be just fine..
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