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10-15-2011, 11:27 PM #3481Junior Member
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hey ron, quick question about increasing steroid dosage after a bridge/8 week cycle. I know you said that after 8 weeks of a given steroid, your receptors become saturated and you need to either increase the dosage of the steroid or switch over to a different one in order to continue to make gains. MY question is that lets say I started at 500mg of test enth. and after a few 8 week cycles, I built up/increase my dosage to 1.25g of test enth. (about 250mg increase ever 8 weeks). And after my last 8 week cycle, 1.25g of test, I decide to come off steroids for 4 months and do a pct (pct lasting 1 month). Now when I decide to go back and start a new cycle(after the 4 month lay off), does my test enth dosage have to start at 1.25g?
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[QUOTE=The Titan99;5770534]I WANTED TO ADD ONE MORE THING HERE FOR YOU TO TRY AND THAT IS DOING LESS VOLUME. I HAVE RECENTLY HAD TO REDUCE ARM BICEP AND TRICEP VOLUME TO ONLY 6 SETS A PIECE DUE TO MY TENDONS. WHEN I DO MORE VOLUME WITH THE HEAVIER WEIGHT LOADS IT FLARES UP. THATS ANOHTER OPTION FOR YOU AND KEEP IN MIND YOU'LL NEED TO REDUCE CHEST, DELTS AND BACK WORK AS WELL TO KEEP FROM OVER STRESSING THOSE TENDONS.
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10-19-2011, 08:50 AM #3484
Thanks for the advice Ronnie...Nice post!
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10-19-2011, 09:15 PM #3485Junior Member
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Ok, now I am a beginner. Can beginners start with a program like this? This sounds like a solid system, but with me being a beginner I don't want to harm myself. It sounds very beneficial for an experienced bro, but I want to try this only if you would recommend to a beginner.
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10-20-2011, 05:30 AM #3486Junior Member
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10-20-2011, 05:34 AM #3487Junior Member
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Originally Posted by Ronnie Rowland
thanks for the advice ronnie.
do you think using 8 week reloads as per normal (gh year round 8-10ius pharm grade) slin/igf -1/t3 on a 4 week on 6 week off basis is a good plan going forward? I would run it all for 8 weeks then stop slin, igf and t-3 during deloads. I would suggest decreasing GH to 2ius daily during deloads just to keep sides down.
this is something im looking into for next year, right now i think saving up for pharm grade gh and getting my tendon surgery out the way is best.
ive seen aas literally transform my physique in the past year even after my pec tear but in order for me to progress i think i will have to go very high doses. it is something im not against doing as i dont suffer serious sides only blood pressure increase which is genetic in my family.
do you think i should exhaust the very high dose approach first before resorting to the above? If you have high blood pressure issues I would go with the new plan by adding slin, igf , t-3 and gh and forget the higher doses approach using more aramoatizing anabolics.
ive just finished a short burst cycle for 4 weeks after my illness (not sure if you remember) as i was lean enough to start with full abs after losing muscle and fat from being sick (used it a prime)
which was a shot of sustanon everyday for 4 weeks , 2 shots of tren blend everyday for first 2 weeks and 1 shot npp ed for remaining 2 weeks
i responded really well gaining 7kg in total and actually lost some fat aswell (think it was the high dose tren ) not much water retention as i normally get bad back and shin pumps when this happens but not this time and no moon face!.yes it was the tren and the fact you have been off for some time!
this is the max gear ive done.
i was thinking for my next reload (in 4-6weeks time after clearing out recetprs with deload and prime) i would go for 2g test 1g tren and 50-100mg anadrol for usual 8 week reload. That's the max I would go, if your blood pressure can handle it. Keep a check on blood perssure daily and if it gets out of control decrease everything!
weight now is 245lbs around 10-12%
let me know what you think ronnie, appreciate your advice.
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thanks ronnie, will be doing this start of next year after pec surgery. what do you think of staying on a baseline of 25mcg t3 year round to make most of metabolism and protein synthesis? dont think muscle loss will be a problem because of test during deloads and gh year round but not sure how it would affect natty thyroid. was reading a study showing patients recovered natural thyroid in as little as 2 weeks after years of t3 use.Last edited by ricky23; 10-20-2011 at 05:36 AM.
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10-23-2011, 01:45 PM #3488Junior Member
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My recommendations for you are as follows:
1) Train with weights only 3-4 days per week and stop the super sets! Jamie Eason looks the way she does due to her genetics not her weight training program per se. You need to stick with straight sets and just move faster between sets. 60 second rest between sets is about right and keep reps at 12-15 per set. Lift intense to help build muscle and burn fat. I would suggest doing around 6 sets per major body part once per week. For example quads- 3 sets of squats on smith machine and 3 sets of super lunges on smith machine. 4 sets of leg curls could suffice for hams.
2) Increase cardio to 1 hour a day 6 times per week.No cardio on leg day!
3) Stop clen until 8 weeks out from show because you will become immune. You will also want to add 50 mgs of t-3 to the 40 mcgs of clen 8 weeks out from show for further fat loss.
4) Consider taking 5 mgs of anavar daily to increase lean muscle and overall body composition.
5) A good training split for you would be:
Monday-chest/biceps/abs
Wednesday-back/triceps
Friday-Shoulders/LegsLast edited by Ronnie Rowland; 10-23-2011 at 05:42 PM.
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10-23-2011, 05:09 PM #3490
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Another newspaper article!
Me and the people I work with and train!
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10-23-2011, 06:13 PM #3492New Member
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Ron,
Nice guns!! Does real legit GEAR really exist?
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10-23-2011, 07:27 PM #3493
Hi ron, I think you missed my post in page 87
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...87#post5775187
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10-24-2011, 04:28 AM #3494Junior Member
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10-24-2011, 07:03 PM #3495
Ronnie,
About 2 weeks left in my cut before i cruise on 250 for about 6 weeks or more.
I want to give blood and get blood tested before next cycle.
Ive been following your/DaveP Keto diet for the last few weeks and love it. Im under 30 carbs a day and have a massive cheat on Sunday. I eat so much i feel like death but I keep waking up the next morning weighing less or no more then a 1lb gain. I think that is the t3? I did DaveP keto before all natty and used to gain 5lbs or so after a cheat.
Anyways, after my cut is over in 2 weeks I will continue the Keto style diet to maintain over the next 6 weeks before i Bulk.
I have realized my body does so much better on low carbs. I also get fat bulking even on 150+ carbs a day.
For this next bulk what do you think about only taking in about 30 grams of carbs pre and post workout and the rest of the meals are Protein fat and green veggies.
Could I also do my refeed day on Sunday where I load up on clean carbs, then in the evening have a cheat meal "pizza burger etc" Or will i accumulate to much fat from taking in carbs during the week.
I want to grow yet i dont want to get fat like I always do on a bulk.
I train M-F and take off Sat and Sun. Sat would be a no carb day and Sunday would be a refeed/cheat last meal if you think i can get away with this.
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I'll try and get all these questions answered this weekend. Been slammed!
Thank you,
Ronnie
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10-27-2011, 02:32 AM #3497New Member
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Hey Ronnie, I just read your article and i must say thanks for dedicating your time to helping others. Im 25, been training on and off since i was about 18 and decided to finally hit the gear to try get a bit bigger and lean up a bit for summer. I have started with test enanthate 250 (2x 0.75ml) + deca 200 (2x 0.5) per week. Im approximately 79kgs, probably around 15-20% body fat.
So Mondays = 0.75mil of test e and 0.5mil of deca and again on Thursdays
ps. i also started on prop for the first 3 weeks to kickstart the cycle every second day but just finished that now.
First I was wondering if this amount is alright or if i should just be doing 1 mil of enanthate twice a week? I started on .75 so then i could later increase the ammount to 1mil enanthate twice a week after my first blast..
So far this is my third week on it and im starting to feel the strength already (woot woot)... I was planing n cycling for 8 weeks on, 2 weeks off (reload/deload) and then back on for another 4 weeks? I didnt want to be on it for longer than 12 weeks so instead of going for another 8 weeks on it i was planning on stopping after the the 4. So basically... 8 weeks reload, 2 week deload (no injections ), followed by a further 4 weeks on. I wanted to know if this is okay or should i just continue for another 8 weeks?
I also wanted to cut up a bit towards the end of my cycle and was thinking of hitting tren for the last few 4-8 weeks of my cycle (depending how long my cycle is). I wanted to know if this is a good idea? and if so how much would you recommend considering that ill probably be on 1mil of test E and 0.5 mil deca twice a week...
Lastly... ive always had a gyno problem (or at least i think so), more evident on one side than the other and didnt want to make it worse so i was thiking of using letro/Arimadex/novaldex throughout my cycle ... I can get my hands on Letro (2.5mg x 30) or Arimadex (1mg x 30). However they both cost over $200 (pharmaceutical tablets) which is a bit expensive...
Considering my gyno problem i was wondering what you all would recommend to be the best? I have read a lot of articles about it, and most recommend letro as it can reverse it sometimes. However i can also get liquid Arimidex (1mg/ml 30mls) for less than of what the other one costs (from the same place) so i was leaning towards this...
However im trying to figure out if its worth forking out over 200 for the letro or should i just get the liquid arimadex, and if so whats the difference? ie. between liquid and tablets?
Thanks in advance for the help, much appreciated!Last edited by Crazyltn187; 10-27-2011 at 03:28 AM.
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im looking at giving this a try but am curious as to whether my current macros are sufficient enough for such. im currently in my 5th week of test e @ 500mg a week, ran dbol for first 4 weeks as a kicker, and looking at running dbol as a bridge in the deload. my macros are: 370p/370c/80f give or take 5 grams of each. i eat very clean apart from the one reload meal a week. what im also wondering is should i run the 500mg for the next 3 weeks, then go to 250mg on the deload along with the dbol for 2 weeks, then back on to 500mg for another 8 weeks without dbol or what? then after 12 weeks in all has been completed, run 4 weeks of pct using nolva 40mg weeks 1&2, 30mg week 3 20mg week 4 (whilst still in my reload). not too sure if that makes sense or not....let me know if you want me to clear anyrthing up if its too confusing.
oh im currently in a bulk.Last edited by Loges; 10-30-2011 at 06:16 AM. Reason: forgot to mention i was in a bulk phase atm
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Keto should not be used for longer than 8 weeks IMO unless someone is extremely obese and you are not. I would carb cycle by keeping carbs at 100 per day 5 days per week and on wednesday have 150 and on saturday as many carbs as you desire to prevent staleness.
With cardio don't get too meticulous with heart rate but the more intense it is the more calories you will burn. I would try for around 145. If you go too intense you will burn muscle and wont be able to hang in there for the duration of each session. You should be sweating a lot and breathing pretty hard but not HIT cardio.
A recent report showed that taking carbs down to 100 per day burned away almost as much body fat as being in a state of ketosis (no carb diet). Carb cycling is the superior way to "lose body fat" during the beginning of a diet phase. You can do ketosis right before a show! Keeping carbs/calories in check 5 days per week is the best way for everyone! The body responds in a positive manner when 2 non-consecutive carb/calories up days are included each week. It does so by driving up anabolic hormones and increasing thyroid hormone output-hence speeding up the metabolism and increasing lean muscle mass. When carbs and calories are constantly kept low, your body adapts and the metabolism slows down. A great approach is to use a 3 low-1 high-2 low-1 high carb/calorie rotation).
Monday-low carbs
Tuesday-low carbs
Wednesday-moderate in carbs (carbs should be clean on this day-lower protein intake in order to stay at a maintenance calorie level), Decrease protein intake to make up for extra calories coming from carbs!
Thursday-low,
Friday-low,
Saturday-high in carbs, calories and fats (cheat day eat some junk carbs and fats), Decrease protein on cheat day as well.
Sunday-low.Last edited by Ronnie Rowland; 10-30-2011 at 05:02 PM.
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[QUOTE=lefrancis;5784898]Ron,
Nice guns!! Does real legit GEAR really exist?[/QUOTE]Of course it does..Some of the UG lab gear is stronger than pharm grade but that's not always a good thing.
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[QUOTE=lefrancis;5784898]Ron,
Nice guns!! Does real legit GEAR really exist?[/QUOTE]Of course it does..Some of the UG lab gear is stronger than pharm grade but that's not always a good thing.
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[QUOTE=slimshady01;5785910]Ronnie,
About 2 weeks left in my cut before i cruise on 250 for about 6 weeks or more.
I want to give blood and get blood tested before next cycle.
Ive been following your/DaveP Keto diet for the last few weeks and love it. Im under 30 carbs a day and have a massive cheat on Sunday. I eat so much i feel like death but I keep waking up the next morning weighing less or no more then a 1lb gain. I think that is the t3? I did DaveP keto before all natty and used to gain 5lbs or so after a cheat.
Anyways, after my cut is over in 2 weeks I will continue the Keto style diet to maintain over the next 6 weeks before i Bulk.
I have realized my body does so much better on low carbs. I also get fat bulking even on 150+ carbs a day.
For this next bulk what do you think about only taking in about 30 grams of carbs pre and post workout and the rest of the meals are Protein fat and green veggies. I would not go lower than 125 carbs per day.
Could I also do my refeed day on Sunday where I load up on clean carbs, then in the evening have a cheat meal "pizza burger etc" Or will i accumulate to much fat from taking in carbs during the week. go with the cheat meal and clean carb up on sat.
I want to grow yet i dont want to get fat like I always do on a bulk. Carbs are not the only culprit, overall calories also matter. It could be that you do not have it in your genetics to weight a lot without getting fat. It's best you don't bulk but just eat normal and make slower/leaner gains
I train M-F and take off Sat and Sun. Sat would be a no carb day and Sunday would be a refeed/cheat last meal if you think i can get away with this. I would not do a no carb day on sat before a sun carn load as your blood sugar will be all over the place. You will do better not bulking at all from what I am hearing.[/QUOTE]above
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10-30-2011, 03:39 PM #3511Junior Member
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im not running it at all ron, a friend who does mma came across articles about it being used in cylcing and that it wud be great for mma, i cudnt find much info about if for him myself apart from the profile on this site, it never said anything about it being very dangerous ,just to watch your blood pressure and stay hydrated, thats why i was asking you ron, from your reaction i can see to tel my mate stay well clear of it! thanks again ron
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Im taking Test enan 2cc a week with omedren 2cc a week mixed with 20mg of Anavar a day for the next 8 weeks, is this a good cycle or would you suggest any change.
P.S. Great post.
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10-30-2011, 11:28 PM #3516New Member
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Cheers for the reply bro. Will give that a shot. Let you know how I go. Stoked to give it a shot for my next cycle as I don't have any dbol ATM.
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10-31-2011, 05:09 AM #3517
Ronnie, I have a question for you. I am nearing the end of a test suspension and tren a cycle. (150mgs test ed and 100mgs tren ed) with both of these being short esters and clearing quickly would I need to deload? If so how would I run the suspension for those 2 weeks? If not can I go straight into test e and deca ? Your help is greatly appreciated.
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10-31-2011, 05:00 PM #3520
Volume is not the only variable when trying to induce hypertrophy.
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