You'll want to read this!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Here's a diet question for you Ron. I've been eating pinto beans as a carb source lately but I've realized they also have quite a lot of fat and protein as well. I love eating these beans but I was wondering what you thought in regards to nutrient partitioning? One cup of cooked dried pinto beans breaks down like this: Protein 11g, carbs 34g, Fat 15g for a total of 214 calories. I'm bulking right now. What do you think their value is as far as bulking and cutting? Certainly better for bulking than cutting with all those carbs/fats and add some lean meat or egg whites with them for extra protein when bulking. If cutting have them on cheat day only.One more question while I'm at it. What do you think of NPP as opposed to Deca? I would be running it with Test Prop.

The only differnce is NPP has a shorter active life. You'll probably have the same exact side effects.

[wellyou7]

I was just wondering if you followed this method (8 weeks on 2 weeks off) repetitively,

would you end up needing TRT for life?

[TestAce]

I was just wondering if you followed this method (8 weeks on 2 weeks off) repetitively,

would you end up needing TRT for life?

Come on man, this has been covered 489679345846 times. Read through the thread and you'll find your answer.

[TestAce]

Can anyone pls help me to bulk up fast. Give me the exact workout excercises that I should do per day. Pls help me thanks.

After reading some of your posts it is clear you have no idea what you are doing. The best advice you can get is to get off this section of the forum and do proper research on dieting and training. Then after you have 2-3 years worth of experience in that area should you consider taking steroids .

[Ronnie Rowland]

im back doin deadlifts ron but now my problem is the lower back pump, never stopped me before but this is extremely intense, i cud only work up to my heaviest for 8 reps and stop, cudnt do 3 more sets cause it feels like the muscles either side of my spine meet at the bottom of my back and are cramping together or soemthing , i can feel my lower back throbbing, i cudnt even bend over to take the plates off, if this continues il never get my deadlift up! How many sets for back ron? only 2 work sets! i do 5 exercies, at the moment , a lat pulldown and pullups, close grip seated pulley rows and close grip bent over rows using a barbell placed inda corner of the room. 4 working sets for each exercise. Male olympic gymnasts that perform on those rings, sum of those guys are absolutley massive, im presuming they too need massive dosages ? most tend to have small joints and large muscle bellies making them appear larger than they really are. Seeming as supposedly they can walk into a gym without ever having been der in there life and bench press twice their own body weight easily! they are lean and have great functional strength.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

finally took the time to read this whole thing ronnie. I am mother fvckin subscribed!!! Four weeks in, using for cutting. Love the carb cycling! Sanity and results, pretty rare for cutting. Wanted to run my volume past ya and see what you think. Cycle is very mild and is going to stay very mild 100mg var ed, 100mg prop eod, clen up to 160mcg ed.....volume is as follows: Chest- 12 biceps- 6 (with and additional 2 sets of hammer curls for brachioradialis), forearms- 4, quads-12, hams-7, calves-8, delts -12 (4 for rears on back day), triceps- 10, abs- 8, back-14, traps- 6.

looks good!

[slimshady01]

Ronnie,

I know your against AI. I've been really tired last few days and wondering of my estrogen is high.

No signs of gyno but feel tired like a newborn child.

Running test 500 and deca 400

Taking caber .25 on Monday and Thursday.

[Toad.]

Thanks for your reply Ron... That clears things up for me on that. I have read somewhere that when dieting & on a cutting cycle that you can get away with using less total steroids (total dosage of all steroids in stack mg/week) than what you would use on a bulking cycle? What are your views on this?

Are there any books that you recommend, both on training & AAS?

Many Thanks, Rich

[kelevra]

Losing weight, especially some water weight will help you. Your best bet is to lower carbs and get your body fat down. When people are lean they do not usually have these same kind of issues unless its asthma or an allergic reaction to the gear.
COLOR="red"] Note: This is not that uncommon and it gets worse during the allergy season or when its humid making it more difficult to breathe. I keep an albuterol inhaler with me when training legs and one by my bed (i shouldnt have to explain that one..lol) just in case I get an exercised induced asthma attack. I am now on allergy shots and I no longer have this problem but still keep the albuterol with me in case some feraky ever happened. You'll should probably try allergy shots as well. [/COLOR]

You were right on as always. Maybe you should have been a doc?? Some of what you said was actually word for word from the doc...
He prescribed some short term prednisone for allergy and Albut.. inhaler. I have cut carbs from about 225 down to 125ish with no dairy right now. Drinking a ton of water. I have dropped a couple of pounds of water over the last 2 days. Between that and the meds, I,m already feeling much better.
THANX THANX again..

[The Titan99]

This gets my vote for most obnoxious, retarded, annoying post of the year.

X10!! Douche Bag of the Year award!!! Ronnie's the most useful resource in BB. That's what he needs to do is design workouts for lazy butt-plugs from the ground up for free. Ron's much too nice of a guy so I feel insulted and annoyed for him on this one.... No offense meant Ronnie.

[Ronnie Rowland]

I was just wondering if you followed this method (8 weeks on 2 weeks off) repetitively,

would you end up needing TRT for life?

Maybe but maybe not. It depends on the individual but I am going to suggest you do a 20 week cycle then a full pct before going back on.

[Ronnie Rowland]

You were right on as always. Maybe you should have been a doc?? Funny you say that because I almost went to med school. I have heard this from several people including family members. I would have been a doctor if had to do over. Probably a back surgeon or endocrinologist. Some of what you said was actually word for word from the doc...That's good to know! He prescribed some short term prednisone for allergy and Albut.. inhaler. I have cut carbs from about 225 down to 125ish with no dairy right now. Drinking a ton of water. I have dropped a couple of pounds of water over the last 2 days. Between that and the meds, I,m already feeling much better. Good news!THANX THANX again..

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie,

I know your against AI. I've been really tired last few days and wondering of my estrogen is high.

No signs of gyno but feel tired like a newborn child.

Running test 500 and deca 400

Taking caber .25 on Monday and Thursday. Deca always made me dead tired after a while because it's a blood builder-hence increases hemocrit levels. Sounds like you need to go donate blood.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, do you know of any t3 users who develop permanent thyroid problems, no, but i have known a few who alerady had thyroid problems before beginning and they never knew it until they came off and went back to having a metabolism like a snail. reason i ask is because since i stopped t3 ive been feeling a strain in the left side of my throat and suffered a fat rebound, happened so fast. And also normally i lose fat quite easy normally but this time im really struggling to shift some even with carb cycling. did you use clen with the t-3? Did you taper off the t-3 or stop abruptly? Have you stopped taking clen , gh or lowered the dosages of your steroids?also when dieting how do you differentiate muscle flatness with possible muscle loss apart from strength? i judge by how much weight i am losing starting 2 weeks into the diet when water in my body normalizes. Anything over 1 1/2-2 lbsper week and your probably losing muscle. Whenever i go low cals/carbs i flatten out badly. Increase salt and fluids. CUTING WAY BACK ON AROMATIZING ANABOLICS OR TOO MUCH CARDIO ALSO CAUSES YOU TO FLATTEN OUT MORE thanks ronnie

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[Ronnie Rowland]

hey ronnie. I'm going to start slingshot training in the month of july, i just finished finished pct from a prop cycle. Here is what i was thinking:

Weeks 1-8:
500mg test prop
50mg dbol (for 4 weeks, thinking about maybe going with winny instead of dbol, thoughts on this?)[b] go with d-bol for bulking and winstrol for getting hard for summer. D-bol will hide your definition. And run either for 8 weeks not 4.[/b
]weeks 9-10:
250mg test prop

weeks 11-18
750mg test prop
90mg tren (ph, i need to use up the rest of my ph tren, i respond well to tren and do not get sides from it) 75mg proviron (on second thought, i would add the tren during first reload and add winstrol for second 8 week reload. Skip the d-bol until winter.dermatherm target

weeks 19-20
300mg test prop

i will be running hcg at 250iu e4d starting at week 3 for the duration of the cycle (during reloads and deloads). I don't mind the frequent pinning. Scar tissue won't be an issue if i change sites frequently correct? you should be fine but that prop is going to cause some soreness.
pct will be after the second deload and will consist of torem, sustain alpha, toco-8, endoamp max, and tcf-1. all you need is hcg and the proviron you are already going to be takingmy overall goal with this cycle is to put on as much lean mass as i can.

How does this look? I made a few suggestions and keep in mind diet plays a large role in staying lean while gaining thanks!

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Can anyone pls help me to bulk up fast. Give me the exact workout excercises that I should do per day. Pls help me thanks.

YOU'VE GOT TO GO READ THROUGH THIS LINK- http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...raining-System

[Ronnie Rowland]

interesting, i always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up ronnie and good question vv.
I still am still pretty weak when i pare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean i will not get much stronger than i am now and will i always be behind others in terms of strength? delta i already answered this question you must have missed it! Like i stated before if you are considerably weaker than your peers after 3 months of solid training you are fighting against genetics. Meaning you won't catch them on strength given they are doing similar as you. They started out ahead of you in this area and if you and all your peers at the gym add 100 lbs to your bench press in a 2 year period they will still be ahead of you in strength because they started out ahead of you in the race for strength. Don't try and force strength gains or you will tear up your tendons! It's the guys who can lift the most that have the thickest tendons and most durable tendons due to the extra thickness and/or insertions. Focus on muscle stimulation. You are not a powerlifter nor do you have the genetics to be one from what you aer saying. for example: My 48 year old wife is stronger than most guys in our gym due to her genetics. She can do 2-45 lb plates on each side on flat bench press in perfect form for 8 repetitions. She does squats with 3-45 lbs plates and 1-25 lb plate on each side of the bar for 8 reps in perfect form. She only weighs 156 lbs right now. You see what i mean? She almost as strong as me on upper body and her lower body is stronger..lol..

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[slimshady01]

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I've just started my 4th week, I doubt hemocrit levels are to high yet?

Brings up a good point though, should I give blood say my 10th week?

[VASCULAR VINCE]

ronnie....muscular development magazine article claims..kaie greene... does 15-25 reps per set for quads....20-25 work sets...what says you???

[djdizzy]

This is a little off topic so delete if necessary.

Kroger / Ralphs just changed the nutritional values on the CARBMaster yogurt. Some flavors had 8g protein and some had 12g. Now they all have only 8g. I think the caloric value went down as well. It's 60 now but cant remember what it was before. I called to complain and they said they were actually receiving quite a few comments on the change and would consider changing it back if they kept getting them. So if any of you also enjoy the yogurt if you could make a complaint we might get it changed back!

hxxps://customer.kroger.com/comments/comments.aspx

or

1-800-632-6900 option 1 then option 5

Thanks and now back to your regular scheduled programming....

[TestAce]

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Why do you recommend dbol and winny at 8 weeks? That seems like a long time to run both.

[TestAce]

This is a little off topic so delete if necessary.

Kroger / Ralphs just changed the nutritional values on the CARBMaster yogurt. Some flavors had 8g protein and some had 12g. Now they all have only 8g. I think the caloric value went down as well. It's 60 now but cant remember what it was before. I called to complain and they said they were actually receiving quite a few comments on the change and would consider changing it back if they kept getting them. So if any of you also enjoy the yogurt if you could make a complaint we might get it changed back!

hxxps://customer.kroger.com/comments/comments.aspx

or

1-800-632-6900 option 1 then option 5

Thanks and now back to your regular scheduled programming....

What the hell is this shit? I think you're in the wrong forum bud.

[djdizzy]

What the hell is this shit? I think you're in the wrong forum bud.

The reason I put it here it because Ronnie suggested using the yogurt as part of your diet. I use it and there have been other posts about it as well. So I thought the people here that use it might care.

I did say it was a little off topic....

[Toad.]

Hi Ron, I think you missed my post (2890)?

[jaws1174]

Hey Ronnie...i just recieved your response. Since i cant talk with you on here, please email me IF you get a chance(about my original post). I completely respect the fact that you are a very busy man and im sure its next to impossible to help out EVERYONE. If you do get a chance, my email is [email protected]. It would mean the world to me to get your expert advice, but if you cant i completely understand.I appreciate your time. Thanks again!

[lynxeffect1]

sorry ron cud u just refresh me on this again, 2 working sets to failure per exercise...8 to 12max working sets in total per bodypart, but for quads since theres not as many exercises if i was choosing squats and leg press id do 4 working sets each for a total of 8? den 8 working sets for hams and 8 for calves on same day

[lynxeffect1]

ron theres a hair in my bottle of tren enth! ? the gear is fine but when i open this bottle wot shall i do? if u were using test enth during reload then deload time came and ud no test enth left cud u use a shot of sust each week during deload?

[Ronnie Rowland]

Ronnie,

I know your against AI. I've been really tired last few days and wondering of my estrogen is high.

No signs of gyno but feel tired like a newborn child.

Running test 500 and deca 400

Taking caber .25 on Monday and Thursday.

Sounds like progesterone related more than estrogen.

[Ronnie Rowland]

ronnie....muscular development magazine article claims..kaie greene... does 15-25 reps per set for quads....20-25 work sets...what says you???

Tom Platz did ONLY 2all-out high rep sets of squats to failure and he laid in the floor afterwards almost passed out. That's all he could handle. Current Pro's are not going to give out their training and steroid secrets. Sounds like this was written by a ghost writer and Kai just okayed it for money. No one can do that many work sets sets to failure but he could do it if he only went to failure on a around half that many sets using the others as mere warm ups. But that would be a big waste of time IMO.

[Ronnie Rowland]

ron theres a hair in my bottle of tren enth! ? the gear is fine but when i open this bottle wot shall i do? if u were using test enth during reload then deload time came and ud no test enth left cud u use a shot of sust each week during deload?

Your gear is unsanitary. Don't use it! Yes sustanon can be used for deload.

[Ronnie Rowland]

Thanks for your reply Ron... That clears things up for me on that. I have read somewhere that when dieting & on a cutting cycle that you can get away with using less total steroids (total dosage of all steroids in stack mg/week) than what you would use on a bulking cycle? What are your views on this? I disagree! I think you need even more steroids while preparing for a show than when bulking because steroids and growth hormone reduce muscle catabolism while low carbing. They are used in medicine to prevent muscle wasting and that's what you are trying to accomplish during a cutting cycle.
Are there any books that you recommend, both on training & AAS? I am sorry but I do not know of any I would recommend at this time. Many Thanks, Rich

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[Ronnie Rowland]

I've just started my 4th week, I doubt hemocrit levels are to high yet?

Brings up a good point though, should I give blood say my 10th week? I would wait until week 20.

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[ricky23]

hi ronnie, any tips on preventing the fat rebound on t3 if it exists? would being at maintenance cals be ok while thyroid is temp shut down?
also ronnie should fat burners be stopped when carb loading say for 2 days?
if so wouldnt going off t3 be risky with alot of carbs coming in or would it be ok because the body is so glycogen depleted and metabolism is flaring?thanks again ronnie

[Ronnie Rowland]

sorry ron cud u just refresh me on this again, 2 working sets to failure per exercise..no, its every work sets to failure!.8 to 12max working sets in total per bodypart, 6-12 per body part. You may need only 6 for hams but as many as 10-12 for quads. but for quads since theres not as many exercises if i was choosing squats and leg press id do 4 working sets each for a total of 8? Den 8 working sets for hams and 8 for calves on same day you could.

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[delta1111]

interesting, i always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up ronnie and good question vv.
I still am still pretty weak when i pare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean i will not get much stronger than i am now and will i always be behind others in terms of strength? delta i already answered this question you must have missed it! Like i stated before if you are considerably weaker than your peers after 3 months of solid training you are fighting against genetics. Meaning you won't catch them on strength given they are doing similar as you. They started out ahead of you in this area and if you and all your peers at the gym add 100 lbs to your bench press in a 2 year period they will still be ahead of you in strength because they started out ahead of you in the race for strength. Don't try and force strength gains or you will tear up your tendons! It's the guys who can lift the most that have the thickest tendons and most durable tendons due to the extra thickness and/or insertions. Focus on muscle stimulation. You are not a powerlifter nor do you have the genetics to be one from what you aer saying. for example: My 48 year old wife is stronger than most guys in our gym due to her genetics. She can do 2-45 lb plates on each side on flat bench press in perfect form for 8 repetitions. She does squats with 3-45 lbs plates and 1-25 lb plate on each side of the bar for 8 reps in perfect form. She only weighs 156 lbs right now. You see what i mean? She almost as strong as me on upper body and her lower body is stronger..lol..

Many thanks for the reply Ronnie, sorry I missed your earlier reply.
I understand your logic that I will always be behind someone else in strength, who continues to train for as long as I do and is currently stronger than me. I am now 41 years old and have been training for about 4 years now. My bench is similar to your wife's (sounds very strong btw) 2 plates on each side for 8-10 reps then I drop the weight on further sets. I would like to get to 3 plates, but have been stuck where I am now for ages. Does it seem feasible for someone of my age and experience to get any stronger than I am now? or should I just stay where i'm at?

[Ronnie Rowland]

hi ronnie, any tips on preventing the fat rebound on t3 if it exists? Would being at maintenance cals be ok while thyroid is temp shut down? anytime you go off a cycle you reduce calories some and the same goes for going off t-3 unless you want to add weight or your thyroid remains in an hyperactive state for a couple of months down the road. When this happens you can have an irregular heart beat which is not welcome i would run clenbuterolalso ronnie should fat burners be stopped when carb loading say for 2 days? what fat burners are you taking?if so wouldnt going off t3 be risky with alot of carbs coming in or would it be ok because the body is so glycogen depleted and metabolism is flaring?you need to gradually introduce carbs after coming off t-3 or your ankles will probably swell up along with your stomach thanks again ronnie

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[morado02]

Hi Ronnie:

I read your post about carbs cycling, and you said that for a guy 150gr of carbs on low days are good enough, but what a about on a girl? that usually eats a diet based on 1350-1500cal?

Thanks

[The Titan99]

Thanks for your reply Ron... That clears things up for me on that. I have read somewhere that when dieting & on a cutting cycle that you can get away with using less total steroids (total dosage of all steroids in stack mg/week) than what you would use on a bulking cycle? What are your views on this?

Are there any books that you recommend, both on training & AAS?

Many Thanks, Rich

Hey Ron, my next reload will be a long, slow cut through October. I'm doing 1.5 g of sust/700 mg Tren E/60 mg Var/100 mg Proviron ed right now through June 20th and eating like crazy, reducing cardio and getting slightly fatter. I was going to switch to Test prop for the cut, stick with the Tren E, do ? mg Var for the last 10 weeks and the 100? mg Proviron. What dosage do you recommend on the prop/Tren E? Thanks buddy!

[Ronnie Rowland]

Why do you recommend dbol and winny at 8 weeks? That seems like a long time to run both.If you go back and re-read my post you'll see that I said to not to use the d-bol and run the winstrol with the test/tren.

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[Ronnie Rowland]

Hi Ronnie:

I read your post about carbs cycling, and you said that for a guy 150gr of carbs on low days are good enough, but what a about on a girl? that usually eats a diet based on 1350-1500cal? A female needs to take carbs down to 100 per day on 5 low carb days per week. One day per week do a moderate carb up of 150 and then on saturday do a big carb up!Thanks

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