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05-11-2011, 10:24 AM #2761
Learning a LOT here....thanks Ronnie.....A LOT!
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05-11-2011, 03:06 PM #2762New Member
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We don't do p90x stuff really its more of a functional fitness type work out. Tractor tire flips shit like that. I get all my workouts from Military Athlete dot com, This type of exercising was done for the SOF community ( Special Operation). This is what I am looking for I have one last deployment before I start the Q course (special forces qualification course). When I went to selection I lost around 30 LBS in 21 days. The Q course is about 18 months long. Your talking about the best the ARMY has to offer. MY endurance has to be extremely high I can not loose this. But I want to add some muscle and strength I noticed from the 21 day selection course that well, I needed to be stronger to compete with the rest of my peers. I lost every bit of my strength by the end. I am not asking to be a machine but i want to be as close as possible to one. Im not looking to add muscle for appearance reasons I am just looking for a way to gain the most strength I can and keep it when under extreme stresses. MAybe this is not the best place to get the information I need but I know not everyone one here does cycles just for appearances there has to be someone one here that understands what Im trying to do.
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05-11-2011, 09:58 PM #2763
Hey Ron, First of all I have been reading this thread for the past week now and have soaked in all of this information. You seem very educated on the subject matter and I appreciate it. Now my question to you is this:
I started a 12 week cycle of test/deca last October 500mgs Test/400mgs Deca, the cycle ended mid Jan and took 5 weeks off of both anabolics (no PCT). I started another cycle of Test/Dbol ( 750mgs Test/ 50mgs Dbol )after the 5 week break and am currently in my tenth week of that cycle. After reading through this thread I'm gonna finish up this last week and was wondering if I can continue cycling using the slingshot method by taking a 2 week deload using clomid and nolva since I didnt do a PCT last time and begin with a Test/Tren cycle ( Test 500mgs/Tren 75mgs EOD ) for 8 weeks reload and then start a full blown PCT with HCG , clomid, and nolva?? or my other option is if I could continue the slingshot method using AAS until Im burned out but still using clomid and nolva and stopping Anabolics during my 2 week deload phases to try and keep from shutting down permanently once I finish my run??? What do you think? any suggestions would be great, thanks Ron
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05-12-2011, 12:03 AM #2764New Member
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opps
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05-12-2011, 12:04 AM #2765New Member
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Hey Ronnie (or anyone lol). I have a few questions if i may please:
Im 37yrs old 205lbs and ive been lifting for about 17 years. All ive taken supplement wise is whey protien after workouts (all natural).....so im not a serious bodybuilder but i do lift 4 days a week consistantly. I do more arms/upperbody than anything.
Anyways, i know this post isnt very complicated but i was looking for some goood advice...and thanks to everybody ahead of time i really appreciate it
1.) Im looking to start a cycle of Anavar /oxy....i WILL NOT be stacking because i dont want to put on a lot of weight and water retention, not to mention liver problems. Through research, this seems like the steroid most suited for my needs. My question is how much mg should i be taking everyday? Also, on days that i dont lift do i still maintain the same doseage? Should i cycle for 8 weeks.....then how many weeks off before the start of my next cycle (assuming i m happy with the results)
2.) Right now im only taking Whey protien on the days i lift....(about 150 grams) then i get the rest from food. On the days i dont lift, i ONLY get my protien from food. I only consume about 2500 (roughly) calories a day, which i know isnt much...but like i said, i kind of worry about putting on too much weight because i just went from 235lbs down to about 205 and i feel better without the extra weight so i would like to keep off the weight while still gaining lean muscle and burning fat. I also run 5 days a week, about 3-4 miles each session. What would you reccomend for my daily Whey protien intake for me based on my wants?
3.) Where the heck can i order LEGITIMATE Anavar/Oxy online for a decent price?
If you have any other suggestions, im open to them. I would just really try to keep it simple because reading some of these posts is like reading Chinese to me lol....although the knowledge is quite impressive
Thanks again to everybody....have a great night!!!
Dan
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05-12-2011, 10:01 AM #2766New Member
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Hi Ronnie,
I startet growth 2 days ago. I'm bloating pretty much, feeling tired after injects and getting extremely hungry for a couple of hours after the injects. I think these feelings are normal right?
But then I also feel a significant increase in Libido. I'm sort of feeling, that i did double up my test dose. Did you notice something similar on growth?
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05-12-2011, 06:36 PM #2767New Member
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Clomid and nolva is not going to do much of anything positive to get your testis producing again during 2 week deloads. You need to think-HCG ! Some people run HCG at 500 per week through 2 weekly injections throughout entire cycle (both reloads and deloads) or wait unitl you come off to run a full pct at higher dosages for around 2-3 weeks.. During 2 week deloads you should stay on low dosages of test but hcg and nolva can be added during that 2 week period.
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I do not believe the body adapts to certain exercises and then becomes weaker. In fact, its just the opoosite given you are training properly! Change exercises if joint pain occurs or during deloads. When dieting down you need to add more healthy fats for breakfast in the way of whole eggs and add more smart balance peanutbutter into your diet at night. Try eating 6 whole egg for breakfast and cut carbs latter in day a bit to compensate for caloric increase. The fats help take off the water bloat allowing you to become more define and the fats help you maintain strength. Also, you need an oral steroid such as (40 mgs of anavar daily to increase atp levels) along with tren ( i like acetate mixed with enanthate version best) and test (i like sustanon ) to prevent getting weaker when focusing on getting harder.
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05-13-2011, 08:33 AM #2772
Ok so will continue with the test, im currently running 750mgs a week. What will I lower it too during the deload considering im using sustanon 250? And then what would I ramp it back up too along witht the tren a dosage ( I have never used tren before keep in mind )? One last thing when I start my full blown pct at the end of the test tren cycle what would consider as far as dosages for hcg clomd and nolva and for how long considering my cycles length over the past 6 months? Thank u so much for ur help, I really appreciate it.
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05-13-2011, 03:18 PM #2773Banned
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question ronnie...as i progresses as a bodybuilder...must i continue getting stronger.. to keep getting larger msucles???
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05-13-2011, 04:22 PM #2774
[QUOTE=Ronnie Rowland;5634205]thinking of running some anavar .. good call bud. i appreciate the help and will be posting a log to record progress.
Thanks
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Maybe you overlooked my post? #2761 Not urgent, so no problem.
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05-13-2011, 10:41 PM #2776New Member
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Hi Ronnie (or others)......any help please? Post #2767
Thanks guys!
Dan
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05-14-2011, 12:07 PM #2777Junior Member
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when trying to get bigger taking ent,cyp,or sust is better than prop but is this only because you would gain more weight because you would be gaining water weight aswel therefore goin up more on the scales, compared to no water weight with prop, or because also ud have more strength gains to help you get bigger that come with the water weight? water weight aside wud i gain just as much muscle taking the same amount of prop as enth if i switched over to prop and be leaner without the water weight, thats without changing anything and staying on a bulking diet? also ron why wud u think g.valentino insists in all those interviews that his arms were the result of 5g of test a week , when clearly for everyone to see it was synthol?
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05-14-2011, 01:10 PM #2778Banned
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ronnie...will t-3 .....cause muscle loss ..while cutting up????
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05-14-2011, 01:13 PM #2779Banned
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my 32 year old wife would like to inject some testosterone twice weekly...she plans to compete next year....her past cycles conisit of 10 mgs of anavar ...20 mgs of stanozol...any sugestions would be greatly appreciate big guy!!
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05-14-2011, 01:56 PM #2780Associate Member
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Hi Ronnie,
Most of the time we read about how important the role of protein is in building muscle mass and in comparison very little is mentioned about fats and carbs.
I have been training consistantly now for several years and have done several cycles.
Regarding diet, I spend most of my time ensuring I get sufficient protein and much less time worrying about fats, carbs and overall calorie intake. I know this is lazy and is probably why I feel i'm making little progress, even when on aas. Can anyone please confirm whether or not this is likely to be my problem? If I did increase my carbs in particular and my caloric intake, should I see rapid gains? How do I combat putting on fat or is this part of the package?
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05-14-2011, 09:40 PM #2781Junior Member
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Great thread Ronnie!
This is my first cycle using your slingshot system. I'm currently running 100mg Test. Prop + 100mg Tren . Ace EOD. I'm currently in week 6 of the reload and I'm just trying to decide on how I will do my deload.
I'm leaning towards cutting all anabolics out for the two weeks of my deload, rather than dropping the Tren and using a lower dose of Test. Is this advisable with short half-life compounds? I read at the beginning of this thread somewhere that you say that the body will hold onto all muscle for about two weeks. Does this apply in my case?Last edited by Rastapopolous; 05-16-2011 at 01:06 PM.
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05-15-2011, 12:20 PM #2783New Member
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thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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05-16-2011, 09:02 AM #2787Junior Member
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ron if im jus sitn down watchin tv with my mouth closed im breathing very heavy im told, i dont notice it too much myself but is it linked again to the sleep apnea ? also sometimes when i cough i seem to get a pain inda middle of my back for a second, is there anything to that, last thing is lately no matter where i inject myself ders a problem, i used always inject into my ass and when id time off i got time to heal but since im follwing your great methods and never off im getn wot i think is a build up of scare tissue on both sides so im presuming it goes down when u give it a break? but everytime i inject into shoulders or tri's i seem to hit something or else im left with massive bruises for a week
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05-16-2011, 09:41 AM #2788Member
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I’m sure that it is some individually dependant, but what do think would be a max BF% to hit while bulking. The point when you are more likely to gain fat than quality muscle.
What is the max ML per pin you recommend for delts and pecs?Last edited by kelevra; 05-16-2011 at 05:44 PM.
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05-16-2011, 09:43 AM #2789Banned
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need your opinion about hgh ronnie...blue tops any good????
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No Vince..LOL..You do not have to keep getting stronger inorder to continue get bigger. Jay Cutler has not gained any strength for the past two years and he's bigger than ever! ONLY POWERLIFTER"S ARE REQUIRED TO LIFT MORE AND MORE WEIGHT. BODYBUILDING IS ABOUT LOOKING GOOD WHICH REQUIRES WORKING THE MUSCLES WITH TIME-UNDER-TENSION NOT NECCESARILY LIFTING HEAVY WEIGHTS EVEN THOUGH SOME CAN DUE TO THEIR THICK TENDONS, LARGE MUSCLES AND BIOMECHANICS...So, What is required for bodybuilding is time-under- tension and being consistent with workouts, diet and anabolics. When you perform enough volume using good form the muscle become stimulated to grow. Over time they will grow. Striving to always lift more weight as you become more and more advanced can be one the worst thing you can do as a bodybuilder because it brings forth injury and frustration. More volume and impeccable form to increase time-under-tension is the secret at that juncture! However, as a beginner making some strength gains are more important.
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05-16-2011, 01:24 PM #2791New Member
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i startet growth 2 days ago. I'm bloating pretty much, feeling tired after injects and getting extremely hungry for a couple of hours after the injects. I think these feelings are normal right? it can be because it causes a little water retention upfront and messing with your blood sugar levels. It should level off in 4 weeks or so,.
But then i also feel a significant increase in libido. I'm sort of feeling, that i did double up my test dose. Did you notice something similar on growth? gh increases sex drive for some people!
I did cut down the carbs and upped the water intake. I guess the only thing that really helps is some lasix right? Or do you have some other advice?
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05-16-2011, 02:03 PM #2792Associate Member
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05-16-2011, 07:03 PM #2794Junior Member
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Hi Ronnie:
I'd like to ask you, what about a female doing this system?
How would it be doing it with Primo? for a 30 y/o female
Thanks
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05-17-2011, 12:25 AM #2795
Hi Ronnie,
I am on my 2nd reload, 3rd week in of test 750/week, EQ 600/week and proviron 50mg/day.
Everything was good during the 1st reload but I suddenly have seem to have lost all appetite right now. I though EQ was supposed to increase hunger. Is this normal? What could the reason be?
This lack of appetite has me eating less, and is affecting energy/strength in gym? Well I have not had a significant increase in strength compared to 1st reload. I am lifting the same if not a marginally more but with better form. Am I loosing muscle?
ThanksLast edited by ridedivefx; 05-17-2011 at 02:16 AM.
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05-17-2011, 01:43 AM #2796Associate Member
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Interesting, I always thought that muscle size and strength were relative and have always used strength as one of the means of measuring my progress. Thanks for clearing that up Ronnie and good question VV.
I still am still pretty weak when I compare some of my lifts to other people's. Does this mean I will not get much stronger than I am now and will I always be behind others in terms of strength?
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05-17-2011, 01:57 AM #2797
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