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    Morning guys!!! Today is officially day 6 with no gym. I am seeing my main dr today, cause I am just not getting better fully, Stinks. I am planning on taking tomorrow too to be be sure I am fully better than I will come back to lift.

    I am ending my Var. I don't want to waste it. I am only 4 days early. I will take off 2 months and come back and train hit the whole time and eat enough (that's the one thing I was lacking).....I am still going to tear it up In the gym. In my world there is no other way to be. May just be a little less weight

    I will train hit with pull backs!

    Sorry guys, really wanted to finish strong, but my body had other plans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AKD_FitChick View Post
    Morning guys!!! Today is officially day 6 with no gym. I am seeing my main dr today, cause I am just not getting better fully, Stinks. I am planning on taking tomorrow too to be be sure I am fully better than I will come back to lift.

    I am ending my Var. I don't want to waste it. I am only 4 days early. I will take off 2 months and come back and train hit the whole time and eat enough (that's the one thing I was lacking).....I am still going to tear it up In the gym. In my world there is no other way to be. May just be a little less weight

    I will train hit with pull backs!

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    You made incredible gains. And you learned a new training method that works for you. I'd say that's a win win. You had a great run. Be proud of what you accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    You made incredible gains. And you learned a new training method that works for you. I'd say that's a win win. You had a great run. Be proud of what you accomplished.
    Thanks D!!! You know I am hard on myself. It's just going to drive me more on the next cycle!!! You rock! Thanks for being here!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    You made incredible gains. And you learned a new training method that works for you. I'd say that's a win win. You had a great run. Be proud of what you accomplished.
    X2 on what Cape said. Also, you adapted to HIT remarkably fast. You'll find that you'll get even deeper into your lifts next go around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Bicep update:

    Orthopaedic Doc called me tonight after he conferred with the surgeon. Surgery is not recommended. I questioned him and he said the tear is somewhere between 25 and 50% as there's no way to be precise. It is at the distal end (elbow) as well as up a wee bit more. Said it appears some of the damage is probably old.

    I pressed him about recovery and if surgery was a better option in my case. He advised not really as there can be issues with surgery as well, such as a shorter, tighter bicep, etc. So, I start therapy for it on Tuesday, 2-3 times per week at a local PT Facility. He said they need to get the inflammation out and then strengthen it and so on. If for some reason PT doesn't go well or I'm not satisfied at that time then surgery could still be performed. A total tear would require instant surgery, this does not.

    So, it seems like it's a coin toss and they feel this is the best option in my case. We'll see. In the meantime I'm jumping back on GH and will request a script for Var from my doc to help with collagen synthesis. Whatever I can do to speed this shit up.

    What kind of dosage are you planning on the var, Kel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Bicep update:

    Orthopaedic Doc called me tonight after he conferred with the surgeon. Surgery is not recommended. I questioned him and he said the tear is somewhere between 25 and 50% as there's no way to be precise. It is at the distal end (elbow) as well as up a wee bit more. Said it appears some of the damage is probably old.

    I pressed him about recovery and if surgery was a better option in my case. He advised not really as there can be issues with surgery as well, such as a shorter, tighter bicep, etc. So, I start therapy for it on Tuesday, 2-3 times per week at a local PT Facility. He said they need to get the inflammation out and then strengthen it and so on. If for some reason PT doesn't go well or I'm not satisfied at that time then surgery could still be performed. A total tear would require instant surgery, this does not.

    So, it seems like it's a coin toss and they feel this is the best option in my case. We'll see. In the meantime I'm jumping back on GH and will request a script for Var from my doc to help with collagen synthesis. Whatever I can do to speed this shit up.
    Great to hear Kel!! Also badass w/o...

    Hey I'm looking to change up my shoulder w/o a bit it's been too much alike the should I up my reps a tad? I know I'm gonna change my heavy sets to 6-8 instead of 4-6 etc I want more blood flow and know 8-15 reps still has lots of room for growth... what's your thoughts my man??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Ok Nach, I did it your way. Man it was an intense workout...
    Awesome MS.... tbh for me there's no other war but you know about your CNS & importance of pullingback

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    Morning Marcus AG Cape Song D KJ AND ALL!

    Legs for me shoulders traps tris are blasted!

    Cape start with me now buddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Awesome MS.... tbh for me there's no other war but you know about your CNS & importance of pullingback
    I also know the importance of pulling out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    What kind of dosage are you planning on the var, Kel?
    Requested the script for 20 mgs which keeps it in reality for him to issue. I have my own sitting around but may as well use insurance instead for this since it's a legitimate reason. I may use only that amount although studies show higher. I'd rather keep it lower, run it for 8 weeks or so, check BW which should be zero issues and repeat.

    Considering upping my test and deca as well as that was my original plan after BW and Stress Echo came back great. Then shit hit the fan. I'm leaning toward elevating things considering I can still train all but bi's. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    Great to hear Kel!! Also badass w/o...

    Hey I'm looking to change up my shoulder w/o a bit it's been too much alike the should I up my reps a tad? I know I'm gonna change my heavy sets to 6-8 instead of 4-6 etc I want more blood flow and know 8-15 reps still has lots of room for growth... what's your thoughts my man??
    Absolutely up your reps. Nothing wrong with doing something different for a while for renewed growth and motivation. Reps are one thing but also consider the pace of your sets and the pace of the reps you perform. Slow some down, speed some up. Heavy compounds you'd err more on the side of slowing reps speed down. Lighter movements such as flyes you can speed up the rep pace. It all changes the intensity of the exercise and will give a different feel and hopefully renewed growth.

    Also change the exercise rotation frequently. Don't do the same sequence all the time. Do it in reverse, whatever. Just throw wrenches at your routine so you're body doesn't adapt to it and it's forced to grow.
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    Hi Fellas/Ladies, did shoulders and traps earlier.

    Pullback

    Db side raises 3 sets

    Leaning one arm db raises 2 sets

    Rev pec dec 3 sets

    Rev db fly 2 sets Face down on bench

    BB shrugs 3 sets

    Behind back machine shrugs 2 sets

    Cardio X trainer 23 min went like fuck.

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    **Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone View Post
    X2 on what Cape said. Also, you adapted to HIT remarkably fast. You'll find that you'll get even deeper into your lifts next go around.
    I am starting Hit again after one more week of pullback. Thank you so much)!! You all make it worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    Hi Fellas/Ladies, did shoulders and traps earlier.

    Pullback

    Db side raises 3 sets

    Leaning one arm db raises 2 sets

    Rev pec dec 3 sets

    Rev db fly 2 sets Face down on bench

    BB shrugs 3 sets

    Behind back machine shrugs 2 sets

    Cardio X trainer 23 min went like fuck.

    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Absolutely up your reps. Nothing wrong with doing something different for a while for renewed growth and motivation. Reps are one thing but also consider the pace of your sets and the pace of the reps you perform. Slow some down, speed some up. Heavy compounds you'd err more on the side of slowing reps speed down. Lighter movements such as flyes you can speed up the rep pace. It all changes the intensity of the exercise and will give a different feel and hopefully renewed growth.

    Perfect exactly what I was asking!! I did smith incline press and though I'm going heavy I've been doing really slow negatives on each rep(so the tempo I get for sure) then went on to flys into presses and upped the rep range a bit going to 15ish w/drops more on flys actually and a faster tempo... bis I upped my heavy oly bar curls with very slow reps up o 8-10 then dropped had a great pump... I get more painfully DOMS that last longer so I love that

    Also change the exercise rotation frequently. Don't do the same sequence all the time. Do it in reverse, whatever. Just throw wrenches at your routine so you're body doesn't adapt to it and it's forced to grow.
    Awesome I didn't know if that was adequate enough... but I've definitely been doing that!!

    Thanks as always Kel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Requested the script for 20 mgs which keeps it in reality for him to issue. I have my own sitting around but may as well use insurance instead for this since it's a legitimate reason. I may use only that amount although studies show higher. I'd rather keep it lower, run it for 8 weeks or so, check BW which should be zero issues and repeat.

    Considering upping my test and deca as well as that was my original plan after BW and Stress Echo came back great. Then shit hit the fan. I'm leaning toward elevating things considering I can still train all but bi's. Thoughts?
    I like it! Nothing wrong if you can work everything else and can you do anybi work at all(light) or is rest defo needed?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    I like it! Nothing wrong if you can work everything else and can you do anybi work at all(light) or is rest defo needed?!

    Yes, I can work everything else normally with the exception of back. Have to be careful what exercises I do there and can't use a supinated grip as that's when the bicep comes into play.

    All that said, I saw my Chiro (I have way to many doctor friends) yesterday and he agreed with me that I should get a second opinion for peace of mind. He recommended a particular guy who's resume is impeccable, in my area as well. He's developed many procedures used today in orthopaedic surgery and has an impeccable resume, particularly dealing with athletes. I called and was able to get in this Tuesday due to a cancellation. So, we'll see what he has to say as well. I also start PT later the same day. I'll be holding off on ramping up any AAS until this next appt.

    Chiro also offered to Kinesio Tape me if I needed/wanted it as he's certified in it. It's the tape method you see used on athletes. It was prominent in the summer olympics. Particularly female beach volley ball, cause who doesn't watch that.......

    ps: Doc already called in Var script. Love him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yes, I can work everything else normally with the exception of back. Have to be careful what exercises I do there and can't use a supinated grip as that's when the bicep comes into play.

    All that said, I saw my Chiro (I have way to many doctor friends) yesterday and he agreed with me that I should get a second opinion for peace of mind. He recommended a particular guy who's resume is impeccable, in my area as well. He's developed many procedures used today in orthopaedic surgery and has an impeccable resume, particularly dealing with athletes. I called and was able to get in this Tuesday due to a cancellation. So, we'll see what he has to say as well. I also start PT later the same day. I'll be holding off on ramping up any AAS until this next appt.

    Chiro also offered to Kinesio Tape me if I needed/wanted it as he's certified in it. It's the tape method you see used on athletes. It was prominent in the summer olympics. Particularly female beach volley ball, cause who doesn't watch that.......

    ps: Doc already called in Var script. Love him.
    KT tape is good stuff, also see if anyone can do some cupping over the muscle belly. That has helped with my calf strains after my knee surgery and with my knee problems.
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    Chest bis -- legs were taken by everyone including my gf lol tomorrow for sure as I wanted to do my chest 2x wkly to see if I can muster more growth!

    Smith incline press - need to move this down next wk in sequence
    Pyramided up to - slow negs
    1w(295) 5 racked short drop 265(3) drop(245) 4 drop 235(2-3)

    Incline flys into presses
    1w DD 75s/70s/65s

    Slight incline flys into presses
    1w DD 80s/75s/70s

    Oly bar curls
    1w/u high reps
    1w 4 drops

    Rev grip curls
    1w DD high reps 12-15

    Hammer preachers off back of incline
    1w 3 drops whew lots of forced reps since it was unilaterally

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Yes, I can work everything else normally with the exception of back. Have to be careful what exercises I do there and can't use a supinated grip as that's when the bicep comes into play.

    All that said, I saw my Chiro (I have way to many doctor friends) yesterday and he agreed with me that I should get a second opinion for peace of mind. He recommended a particular guy who's resume is impeccable, in my area as well. He's developed many procedures used today in orthopaedic surgery and has an impeccable resume, particularly dealing with athletes. I called and was able to get in this Tuesday due to a cancellation. So, we'll see what he has to say as well. I also start PT later the same day. I'll be holding off on ramping up any AAS until this next appt.

    Chiro also offered to Kinesio Tape me if I needed/wanted it as he's certified in it. It's the tape method you see used on athletes. It was prominent in the summer olympics. Particularly female beach volley ball, cause who doesn't watch that.......

    ps: Doc already called in Var script. Love him.



    Damn it RX Var lol that's awesome!

    Sounds like a solid and smart plan with the bicep Kel! Man you know a lot of docs/PhDs etc in every damn field!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Requested the script for 20 mgs which keeps it in reality for him to issue. I have my own sitting around but may as well use insurance instead for this since it's a legitimate reason. I may use only that amount although studies show higher. I'd rather keep it lower, run it for 8 weeks or so, check BW which should be zero issues and repeat.

    Considering upping my test and deca as well as that was my original plan after BW and Stress Echo came back great. Then shit hit the fan. I'm leaning toward elevating things considering I can still train all but bi's. Thoughts?
    Kel, Have you considered distance running to give yourself a break and your bicep tendon a chance to heal? There's a nice marathon out this way a bit later we could get you targeted for...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailRunAZ View Post
    Kel, Have you considered distance running to give yourself a break and your bicep tendon a chance to heal? There's a nice marathon out this way a bit later we could get you targeted for...

    Not even remotely funny. Damn stress echo almost killed me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AKD_FitChick View Post
    I am starting Hit again after one more week of pullback. Thank you so much)!! You all make it worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
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    Man you know a lot of docs/PhDs etc in every damn field!!!
    Surprisingly yes. It does seem to be a lot of my social circle. Seems they like to slum it with me frequently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    KT tape is good stuff, also see if anyone can do some cupping over the muscle belly. That has helped with my calf strains after my knee surgery and with my knee problems.

    I def will. I want to get through this next appt and see which direction I'm going first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Considering upping my test and deca as well as that was my original plan after BW and Stress Echo came back great. I'd rather keep it lower, run it for 8 weeks or so, check BW which should be zero issues and repeat.
    Actually, you just described what I was planning on doing after my Dr. appointment next week, provided she leaves me alone for a bit. Had been kind of piecing the plan together after you looked at my recent labs and we had discussed them and Deca dosage.
    Trying to get this dang shoulder back up to snuff. It does fine at times and then suddenly it gives me grief. If this run and the PT exercises that I'm currently doing doesn't help, then I will bite the bullet and get my Dr. to send me for imaging. However, I really think this is something that will resolve itself with the right actions on my part?

    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    II'm leaning toward elevating things considering I can still train all but bi's. Thoughts?
    I think it's a legit plan and will be perfect with concurrent PT going on. You are able to do some rowing movements and pulldowns for back w/o major discomfort, correct?

    Edit: I just saw your later post that you can do some back work, depending on grip orientation. I still think your plan is solid and plan to do something very similar myself.
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    Ok, off to the shop to work chest as best as I can and not aggravate the shoulder, hopefully.
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    Morning people,

    A lot of tricks going on in here

    Really busy with many things at the moment but will update soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Morning people,

    A lot of tricks going on in here

    Really busy with many things at the moment but will update soon
    Morning big man.
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    Morning Fellas/Ladies, don't think i'll get a session in the day. Got the doc after work then shopping, side/rear delts and traps are sore.

    Hope everyone has a good safe wk end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Morning people,

    A lot of tricks going on in here

    Really busy with many things at the moment but will update soon
    Quote Originally Posted by clarky. View Post
    Morning Fellas/Ladies, don't think i'll get a session in the day. Got the doc after work then shopping, side/rear delts and traps are sore.

    Hope everyone has a good safe wk end.
    Morning, gentlemen!
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    Morning, everyone.
    There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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    Not overly thrilled with what I got done tonight but still think I am doing the right thing. Since I can't move much weight right now, it as good a time as any to do what I can, work on bench press form, and aim for as much chest stimulation as I can get.
    Still miss my dumbbell work, but it's my own fault for hammering up the heavier bells instead of assisting with my legs. I'll be back to them later on. My gut is telling me to keep flat bench, but stay light and preserve that range of motion during the movement.


    RC exercises with my light band, broomstick stretches, and delt/pec stretches off of the uprights of my Smythe machine.

    Flat b'bell press- 3 w/u and I realized I didn't need to go any heavier.
    Incline b'bell press- 2 w/u, Work1- 7, rest pause, 4. Drop a little weight. Work2- 5, rest pause, 4, rest pause, 3.
    Incline d'bell flyes into presses- 1 w/u, Work1- 10 flyes, 6 presses. Rested for a minute. Work2- 10 flyes, 5 presses.

    Working weights are ridiculously light right now, but my shoulder currently feels decent and I have that nice dull ache in my chest, so I can live with that.

    40 minutes for everything.

    Legs are next in the rotation, so I can hammer the sh!t out of them. I'm almost free of pain from squats the other day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Bicep update:

    Orthopaedic Doc called me tonight after he conferred with the surgeon. Surgery is not recommended. I questioned him and he said the tear is somewhere between 25 and 50% as there's no way to be precise. It is at the distal end (elbow) as well as up a wee bit more. Said it appears some of the damage is probably old.

    I pressed him about recovery and if surgery was a better option in my case. He advised not really as there can be issues with surgery as well, such as a shorter, tighter bicep, etc. So, I start therapy for it on Tuesday, 2-3 times per week at a local PT Facility. He said they need to get the inflammation out and then strengthen it and so on. If for some reason PT doesn't go well or I'm not satisfied at that time then surgery could still be performed. A total tear would require instant surgery, this does not.

    So, it seems like it's a coin toss and they feel this is the best option in my case. We'll see. In the meantime I'm jumping back on GH and will request a script for Var from my doc to help with collagen synthesis. Whatever I can do to speed this shit up.
    Fucking hell big guy, sorry to hear to this
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    Morning people,

    A lot of tricks going on in here

    Really busy with many things at the moment but will update soon
    Haha sure is huh - one I can name off the top of my head - he's a right cunt too
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    Morning Marcus AG Clarky Cape Song D KJ Girly(hope your doing well)

    Chest/bis are nice and sore! Legs today all carbed up too!

    Kickass all - enjoy your Memorial Day guys/gals

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Surprisingly yes. It does seem to be a lot of my social circle. Seems they like to slum it with me frequently...
    Can't beat that man!

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    Good morning all and happy Friday all.

    I think I am heading to gym for a light day this morning, this whole next week will be a pullback week.

    Went to my normal dr and she got me set up on a right treatment plan.

    I promise I won't go crazy at the gym.


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