**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Igifuno]

I'd do upper chest one day then flat work a few days later. Back thickness one workout and width another Delt compound one workout and isolation another Calve, tri's and bi's would get different exercises on each of the 2 days I trained them too. I liked it and I definitely think it had some benefit, moved more weight for sure. Only quads and hams were getting trained fully in the same workout.

Very interesting. Never considered anything like that. How long have you done that routine and did you find it effective?

[thunderthor70]

My first day back with heavy weight on legs was brutal. Had that soreness again but it felt good and my knee isn't aching. I'm Definately going to wrap them up and continue. Even of my knee falls off I'm going to compete this yeat

Kill it Haz!!!! Best of luck to you!!!

[Back In Black]

Very interesting. Never considered anything like that. How long have you done that routine and did you find it effective?

It did a job. Probably ran it for 6 weeks or so. It let me continue doing a HIT style without burning out. If I explain how I lifted more weight - normally my flat chest work comes after incline. If I train flat work on its own day I move 10% more weight! for more reps, if I did it on its own day. Same for other bodyparts too.

I know we aren't 'weightlifters' per se and, I never felt the full fatigue that comes with blasting a whole bodypart in one session, but yes I felt it effective. I feel I can cycle it with my normal routine for the greater good.

[Java Man]

java I really dont know. still strong on the opener but strength faded.fast. coulkd be due to this cold I have body feels a little weak. im just going about three days.a.week now. no longer can go long time in the gym. stamina just aint there. ill just be glad when I can bounce back and go full blast again I needed a mental amd physical break.

Could be. When your immune system is fighting hard, you need rest anyways. Adding our kind of muscle destruction to that already taxed system is probably just going to over tax your body and make the immune response and the muscle building both less effective. I'd take a week off. You won't shrink. It takes a lot longer than a week for conditioning to be affected. You could probably use the recuperation time.

One of the things I used to do when I was younger that I wish I hadn't was get obsessed about gym time. Like 'omg I haven't been to the gym in 2 days! I'm shrinking! I'm going to need to work twice as hard next week to gain back the shrinkage!' And it would stress me out big time. That is obsessed thinking. It's absolutely false. A few days off is beneficial and necessary imo now. It took about 4 to 5 years for my strength to fade when I took that decade long break that I took. The size went within a year but not the strength. It took nearly 10 years for fit to turn into fat. Point is, a week off can be beneficial and certainly won't send a person backwards.

I don't know if you have the same obsession that I mentioned above or not, I'm just throwing it out there because its a universal disease all hardcore bodybuilders seen to have at some point in their lives.

December 8th marks 90 days since my last shot. I'm just now starting to get the fire back. I think I'm further along natty road than you if I remember correctly? I have only been training 3 days per week on average. Every other-other day lol. I'm still seeing changes so listening to my inner voice is correct. I'm sure yours is correct for you as well. don't let your conscious mind fvck with you. If you feel you need another day of rest to recuperate, take it.

[Java Man]

Don't really like to post the weight thing. Did that with legs before and I know some people probably say that's BS! I'll pm you.

Nobody in here would call bs on you. I've seen some skinny dudes put up incredible weight, and youre not skinny. It would not surprise me if you said you work with 900 for reps on squats. Well, maybe, but I would take you at your word. Lol. And I'd ask when I can come watch.

[Igifuno]

It did a job. Probably ran it for 6 weeks or so. It let me continue doing a HIT style without burning out. If I explain how I lifted more weight - normally my flat chest work comes after incline. If I train flat work on its own day I move 10% more weight! for more reps, if I did it on its own day. Same for other bodyparts too. I know we aren't 'weightlifters' per se and, I never felt the full fatigue that comes with blasting a whole bodypart in one session, but yes I felt it effective. I feel I can cycle it with my normal routine for the greater good.

Something interesting to try maybe post cycle. Thx.

[Java Man]

Thx man. Seem to be hovering around 205-210. Trying to surpass it but without gaining too much bf.. This may be my limit on this cycle which is fine.

You look bigger than that. Its guess you at around 230. I mean that in a good way

[Cuz]

Taking the weekend off. Just going to plan to make a comeback next year. Muscles are getting sorer as I have finished with my pct.

[Igifuno]

You look bigger than that. Its guess you at around 230. I mean that in a good way

Java you always say the right things. Haha. Maybe someday man.. It may be a while before I can get to 230 but it is the plan.

[Java Man]

Taking the weekend off. Just going to plan to make a comeback next year. Muscles are getting sorer as I have finished with my pct.

Sometimes I'll go in just to get a pump. Spend a half hour or less doing high rep, r1 set IE squats, lunges, bench, shoulder press, curls, dips, then call it a day. Sort of an all over stimulation. Feels good and it shuts that nagging mindfvk up telling you 'must not skip, must not skip!' Because you trained. My endurance comes back a bit when I've been off for a few months but recovery time will always be longer off cycle. I hate it too but its necessary. Just think about how much more you'll get out of the next one due to this down time. Being on full time is not only unhealthy, it plateaus and you have to keep increasing the dose to continue growing. Even fighters get time in the corner. They wouldn't last 10 minutes without that periodic break.

[Java Man]

Java you always say the right things. Haha. Maybe someday man.. It may be a while before I can get to 230 but it is the plan.

You should have my problem for a change... Since I'm 6' tall most people judge me at 200-210ish lol. I'm 230. I'm even still called 'thin' occasionally. Pisses me off.

[Igifuno]

You should have my problem for a change... Since I'm 6' tall most people judge me at 200-210ish lol. I'm 230. I'm even still called 'thin' occasionally. Pisses me off.

Oh not the T word. I'm 5'6'' so the thick appearance comes relatively easily.

[Cuz]

Oh not the T word. I'm 5'6'' so the thick appearance comes relatively easily.

try being 6 2. no matter how big your legs get they still look small lol.

or hell I may be 6 3 now that I have started juicing

[thunderthor70]

try being 6 2. no matter how big your legs get they still look small lol.

I feel your pain brother!!!

[Cuz]

Oh not the T word. I'm 6'6'' so the thick appearance comes relatively easily.

whoaaaaa

[Hazard]

try being 6 2. no matter how big your legs get they still look small lol.

or hell I may be 6 3 now that I have started juicing

Lmao truth

I was called skinny up till 225 or so

[Cuz]

Lmao truth

I was called skinny up till 225 or so

225 and skinny lol, what a feeling. Goes to show you that weight isn't as important as we may think sometimes its the appearance. Ive seen guys that went 210-215 that look 270. not in person but in pics. Look at Anth Bailes. guy is insane.Attachment 146954

[kelkel]

December 8th marks 90 days since my last shot. I'm just now starting to get the fire back. I think I'm further along natty road than you if I remember correctly? I have only been training 3 days per week on average. Every other-other day lol. I'm still seeing changes so listening to my inner voice is correct. I'm sure yours is correct for you as well. don't let your conscious mind fvck with you. If you feel you need another day of rest to recuperate, take it.

Absolutely nothing wrong with EOD training. It's how I've trained for years now. Rest is important, particularly as we age and desire to continue putting our bodies through this hell that we're addicted to.

[kelkel]

Oh not the T word. I'm 5'6'' so the thick appearance comes relatively easily.

No way.

[Igifuno]

No way.

No way what.. Didn't know I was 5'6''?

[Java Man]

If juice made us taller I'd easily be over seven feet lol. I don't know why being called skinny or thin should bother anyone really. Consider the source. In a world where the majority of people in developed nations are obese it should come as no surprise. Lean and skinny are not synonymous but they don't know that.

Edit: sorry about the typos. Fixed. My phone butchered this post.

[Cuz]

If juice made us taller I'd easily be over seven get lol. I don't know why being called don't or thin should bother anyone really. Consider the source. In a world where the majority of people in developed nations are obese it should chime as no surprise. Lean and skinny are not synonymous but they don't know that.

java what are you're long term goals man

[kelkel]

No way what.. Didn't know I was 5'6''?

Sarcasm. We know you're thick!

[Hazard]

225 and skinny lol, what a feeling. Goes to show you that weight isn't as important as we may think sometimes its the appearance. Ive seen guys that went 210-215 that look 270. not in person but in pics. Look at Anth Bailes. guy is insane.<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146954"/>

Exactly..... A guy can be 6'6 250 and not be full. Weight doesn't matter - it's about filling in the space between your joints lol

[Java Man]

Absolutely nothing wrong with EOD training. It's how I've trained for years now. Rest is important, particularly as we age and desire to continue putting our bodies through this hell that we're addicted to.

Absolutely. Another big mistake I used to make. Not giving myself enough time to repair. I have been training 1 on, 2 off. Still getting good results. I think it all depends on how much damage we do on that on day.

No way what.. Didn't know I was 5'6''?

If he's thinking what I was thinking, he's referring to the word 'easily'.

[Java Man]

Exactly..... A guy can be 6'6 250 and not be full. Weight doesn't matter - it's about filling in the space between your joints lol

Lol. True. The next time someone says I'm skinny, I'll say no, I'm actually just spacially challenged.

[Igifuno]

Sarcasm. We know you're thick!

Right over my head. Lol

[Java Man]

java what are you're long term goals man

Ugh I'm sorry to see that post immortalized. It was full of typos and mis-matched words. Android Swype needs a new programmer. Its almost useless.

I have an ongoing series of short term goals. If you've ever been in sales then you know what a pipeline is. Well, that's how I approach everything in life. I do not have a finish line. To set and cross that line would be setting myself up for eventual complacency which in turn causes loss of prior progress. Right now my goal is to reach 12% bf while not losing any lean mass. When I reach that goal, I'll set a new one that requires me to work harder.

I won't sacrifice health to reach my goals though. I used to in my younger days when I didn't yet comprehend mortality.

What about you?

[AD]

i want to be the biggest guy in my gym. when i achieve that, i change gym

[Hazard]

i want to be the biggest guy in my gym. when i achieve that, i change gym

Goto Marcus' gym :-p

[AD]

Goto Marcus' gym :-p

and get my ass kicked for the rest of my life??

[Hazard]

and get my ass kicked for the rest of my life??

We'll both go and we'll bring kel so we aren't the smallest :-p

[Cuz]

I want to be 240 at 10%.

Ill look pretty big for 215 at around 13-15%. Should be pretty awesome if I can bust 240 drop BF,will take a lot of work and obvious dugs. heaviest ever was 227 and I carried more fat I think. well I don't think I know I did. so we will see what happens in 2014.

[AD]

We'll both go and we'll bring kel so we aren't the smallest :-p

wait. marcus, kel, you , me.... I will be the smallest!

[kelkel]

Right over my head. Lol

Yep, I threw the sarcasm at 5'6.5" so I just missed....

[kelkel]

We'll both go and we'll bring kel so we aren't the smallest :-p

Finally getting a sense of humor! Finally.

[RipOwens]

Had ice cream for the first time in a long time tonight. Forgot how good it was. Feeling some shame too!! Lol

[Cuz]

I love icecream. I think we all eat it every now and then.

[kelkel]

I love icecream. I think we all eat it every now and then.

More days than not....

[Cuz]

More days than not....

lol says the most shredded guy on the forum. I knew you ate it ive seen you post your meals before and remember seeing it