**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Hazard]

So is Test everyone's fav? Dbol? Tren???

Overall..... Test is best. Tren is fvckin great in its own respect and I love it but I still love my test

[Cuz]

Overall..... Test is best. Tren is fvckin great in its own respect and I love it but I still love my test

I love test too, but it seems to wear off after a while. I have yet to experience Tren . Tren is the going trend I hear ...

[almostgone]

Actually got away with the $30 buffet tonight while I waited for my car to thaw. Prime rib, salmon, potatoes....



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Dammmmnnnn. Weather is supposed to be craptacular here in SC tomorrow. Hope it's not any of that. Be safe traveling!!!

[Hazard]

I love test too, but it seems to wear off after a while. I have yet to experience Tren. Tren is the going trend I hear ...

It's great for sure..... But it's a tool. Tren takes a toll on your body. Idc what anyone says..... It fvcks with your cholesterol, kidneys, blood pressure, etc. it can't be relied upon..... It's not healthy.

Test at 500mgs is WAY higher than physiological. As you gain weight and get heavier - I think it take more test to continue to grow. I'm not saying to abuse test but I do believe I myself would need 1000mg of test to see decent gains. This is also why I don't think people should be starting out at 750mgs..... Start at 500. Then goto 600.... Then 750. Only increase when you need to.

I hope I'm writing this correctly lol..... Because I know how I mean it in my head. I just hope it comes off that way.

[Hazard]

Lets say you cycle 500mgs test only and have good results. Next cycle try test 500 deca 300. Next one try test 600 with a dbol kick start..... Etc.

[Cuz]

yeah I agree with you haz. I could only go so far on 500-600mg test. Just couldn't get any bigger no matter what I ate or did.

[Hazard]

I also don't believe it takes as much test to maintain. I don't have to run 1000mgs test year round to maintain what I have. I was just talking about growth in regards to those doses.

[kronik420]

So is Test everyone's fav? Dbol? Tren???

dnno yet...

[kronik420]

you still cycle on and off PCT etc.. Haz? or just blast and cruise?

[satisfaction1822]

A developed soleus will enhance, not detract from the appearance of the gastroc. It will give a fuller and wider appearance. Like the asshat below.... <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146729"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146730"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=146731"/> Throw them in occasionally.

Darn I've been working my calfs nearly everyday, and still no change. But hopefully one day I'll have calfs like that.

[satisfaction1822]

So guys, this afternoon I weighed myself again 223... Finally hit my goal weight. But with a price, my waist has gone up nearly 4in :O

[marcus300]

For me being on cycle made me feel super human and I've never felt so confident with an over whelming feeling of unstoppable power. The serge of well being is hard to mimic from anything else IMHO and it is extremely hard to come back down to what we would call normal levels again. Feeling normal just doesn't feel right anymore when you use to running test what's makes you feel super human. My muscles felt full, hard, powerful and when you experience these powerful feelings its really hard to ever be normal again. I was totally hard-core when I was younger and so fixated on getting bigger than anyone I would eat so much, lift so heavy and run my whole life around bodybuilding. I would push the boundaries and sacrifice my health to reach my goals and no one was going to stop me. The testosterone was a powerful drug which I couldn't control throughout my 20's and the mental strength what was needed to stay off and take feeling normal was too over whelming. The more I got educated and started to see how my body changed and responded was the time were I really tried my best to cycle more healthy.



In my 30's I just blow up and grew every day the comments and looks just fuelled my desire to get even more bigger and turn more heads. The devil and angel battle was immense because everytime I went on cycle I exploded and my body just soaked up every bit of AAS, my training was extreme and my cycles were even more dangerous but I needed to see were my limit was and how my body responded. Everyone would stop and watch me in the gym, everyone wanted to ask me questions and everywhere I went I got comments what just pour even more fuel on my internal fire. I was obsessed and totally addicted to making my body grow bigger, it controlled every part of my life to the extent of 24/7. The cost's were huge personally, emotionally and physically I would continue for years on this roller coaster ride with the good vs bad battle.


The emotional battle of suffering low testosterone was really bad I really cant describe in words how I felt, I would swing from the highs of cycling to the lows of low test and this changed everything because now I wouldn't even go back down to my natural test which wasn't that good towards the highs I was experiencing anyway. The lows of suffering low test started to impact me tremendously in many ways and my only saviour was Testosterone therapy . Going on TRT in my mid 30's wasn't ideal and the battle started again to get a balance in my body again which was a whole new ball game that I wasn't use to playing, I was actually trying to make myself feel normal again it was like a full circle. Once I got on a balanced TRT which did take a few years the next few years were very hard-core because I would use training and diet to push my limits again - Test is my best friend, lover and my worse enemy.

Well I love hearing you guys talking about how TEst makes you feel. I am a true virgin who is about to get his cherry popped at 44. Wondering how I am really gonna feel

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[Java Man]

For me being on cycle made me feel super human and I've never felt so confident with an over whelming feeling of unstoppable power. The serge of well being is hard to mimic from anything else IMHO and it is extremely hard to come back down to what we would call normal levels again. Feeling normal just doesn't feel right anymore when you use to running test what's makes you feel super human. My muscles felt full, hard, powerful and when you experience these powerful feelings its really hard to ever be normal again. I was totally hard-core when I was younger and so fixated on getting bigger than anyone I would eat so much, lift so heavy and run my whole life around bodybuilding. I would push the boundaries and sacrifice my health to reach my goals and no one was going to stop me. The testosterone was a powerful drug which I couldn't control throughout my 20's and the mental strength what was needed to stay off and take feeling normal was too over whelming. The more I got educated and started to see how my body changed and responded was the time were I really tried my best to cycle more healthy.



In my 30's I just blow up and grew every day the comments and looks just fuelled my desire to get even more bigger and turn more heads. The devil and angel battle was immense because everytime I went on cycle I exploded and my body just soaked up every bit of AAS, my training was extreme and my cycles were even more dangerous but I needed to see were my limit was and how my body responded. Everyone would stop and watch me in the gym, everyone wanted to ask me questions and everywhere I went I got comments what just pour even more fuel on my internal fire. I was obsessed and totally addicted to making my body grow bigger, it controlled every part of my life to the extent of 24/7. The cost's were huge personally, emotionally and physically I would continue for years on this roller coaster ride with the good vs bad battle.


The emotional battle of suffering low testosterone was really bad I really cant describe in words how I felt, I would swing from the highs of cycling to the lows of low test and this changed everything because now I wouldn't even go back down to my natural test which wasn't that good towards the highs I was experiencing anyway. The lows of suffering low test started to impact me tremendously in many ways and my only saviour was Testosterone therapy . Going on TRT in my mid 30's wasn't ideal and the battle started again to get a balance in my body again which was a whole new ball game that I wasn't use to playing, I was actually trying to make myself feel normal again it was like a full circle. Once I got on a balanced TRT which did take a few years the next few years were very hard-core because I would use training and diet to push my limits again - Test is my best friend, lover and my worse enemy.


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Excellent summation marcus.

[sawyer86]

For me being on cycle made me feel super human and I've never felt so confident with an over whelming feeling of unstoppable power. The serge of well being is hard to mimic from anything else IMHO and it is extremely hard to come back down to what we would call normal levels again. Feeling normal just doesn't feel right anymore when you use to running test what's makes you feel super human. My muscles felt full, hard, powerful and when you experience these powerful feelings its really hard to ever be normal again. I was totally hard-core when I was younger and so fixated on getting bigger than anyone I would eat so much, lift so heavy and run my whole life around bodybuilding. I would push the boundaries and sacrifice my health to reach my goals and no one was going to stop me. The testosterone was a powerful drug which I couldn't control throughout my 20's and the mental strength what was needed to stay off and take feeling normal was too over whelming. The more I got educated and started to see how my body changed and responded was the time were I really tried my best to cycle more healthy.



In my 30's I just blow up and grew every day the comments and looks just fuelled my desire to get even more bigger and turn more heads. The devil and angel battle was immense because everytime I went on cycle I exploded and my body just soaked up every bit of AAS, my training was extreme and my cycles were even more dangerous but I needed to see were my limit was and how my body responded. Everyone would stop and watch me in the gym, everyone wanted to ask me questions and everywhere I went I got comments what just pour even more fuel on my internal fire. I was obsessed and totally addicted to making my body grow bigger, it controlled every part of my life to the extent of 24/7. The cost's were huge personally, emotionally and physically I would continue for years on this roller coaster ride with the good vs bad battle.


The emotional battle of suffering low testosterone was really bad I really cant describe in words how I felt, I would swing from the highs of cycling to the lows of low test and this changed everything because now I wouldn't even go back down to my natural test which wasn't that good towards the highs I was experiencing anyway. The lows of suffering low test started to impact me tremendously in many ways and my only saviour was Testosterone therapy . Going on TRT in my mid 30's wasn't ideal and the battle started again to get a balance in my body again which was a whole new ball game that I wasn't use to playing, I was actually trying to make myself feel normal again it was like a full circle. Once I got on a balanced TRT which did take a few years the next few years were very hard-core because I would use training and diet to push my limits again - Test is my best friend, lover and my worse enemy.


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Another brilliant write up marcus. An a good insight into your past. I would love to see some pics of you at your peak.

[marcus300]

Another brilliant write up marcus. An a good insight into your past. I would love to see some pics of you at your peak.

I do, they were all on my old computer which I left at my ex wife's house for the kids when I went back round to transfer some pics she deleted them and also throw away all my photos. Cvnt of a trick


Thanks

[Igifuno]

Test is my best friend, lover and my worse enemy.

It makes you happy, courts you, then fvcks you.. apologizes, you forgive it and take it back and it happens all over again. Like a crazy girlfriend. Wow.

[RipOwens]

So guys, this afternoon I weighed myself again 223... Finally hit my goal weight. But with a price, my waist has gone up nearly 4in :O

You look pretty lean in that avi tho...

[kelkel]

I do, they were all on my old computer which I left at my ex wife's house for the kids when I went back round to transfer some pics she deleted them and also throw away all my photos. Cvnt of a trick


Thanks

I had a similar situation with a full photo album of pics. Gone but not forgotten with an ex GF. At the time I deserved it. It was a bit of an ass to her...
I did recently see an old pic from when I was about 19. I'll throw it up sometime.

[Hazard]

you still cycle on and off PCT etc.. Haz? or just blast and cruise?

Nah I Trt now..... I've gone on for a long time before. Came off and got the ex wife pregnant. If I want another child - ill use the same hcg protocol with Nolva and clomid after and then give it a go.

I believe when you are on the cusp of your genetic limit you can maintain your size in pct with a strict routine and diet. When you push beyond that..... When your size gets up there..... You need exogenous test to keep it. Some may agree..... Some may not. We have a genetic limit.... The amount of test we produce can only help us maintain so much.

[Hazard]

For me being on cycle made me feel super human and I've never felt so confident with an over whelming feeling of unstoppable power. The serge of well being is hard to mimic from anything else IMHO and it is extremely hard to come back down to what we would call normal levels again. Feeling normal just doesn't feel right anymore when you use to running test what's makes you feel super human. My muscles felt full, hard, powerful and when you experience these powerful feelings its really hard to ever be normal again. I was totally hard-core when I was younger and so fixated on getting bigger than anyone I would eat so much, lift so heavy and run my whole life around bodybuilding. I would push the boundaries and sacrifice my health to reach my goals and no one was going to stop me. The testosterone was a powerful drug which I couldn't control throughout my 20's and the mental strength what was needed to stay off and take feeling normal was too over whelming. The more I got educated and started to see how my body changed and responded was the time were I really tried my best to cycle more healthy.

In my 30's I just blow up and grew every day the comments and looks just fuelled my desire to get even more bigger and turn more heads. The devil and angel battle was immense because everytime I went on cycle I exploded and my body just soaked up every bit of AAS, my training was extreme and my cycles were even more dangerous but I needed to see were my limit was and how my body responded. Everyone would stop and watch me in the gym, everyone wanted to ask me questions and everywhere I went I got comments what just pour even more fuel on my internal fire. I was obsessed and totally addicted to making my body grow bigger, it controlled every part of my life to the extent of 24/7. The cost's were huge personally, emotionally and physically I would continue for years on this roller coaster ride with the good vs bad battle.

The emotional battle of suffering low testosterone was really bad I really cant describe in words how I felt, I would swing from the highs of cycling to the lows of low test and this changed everything because now I wouldn't even go back down to my natural test which wasn't that good towards the highs I was experiencing anyway. The lows of suffering low test started to impact me tremendously in many ways and my only saviour was Testosterone therapy . Going on TRT in my mid 30's wasn't ideal and the battle started again to get a balance in my body again which was a whole new ball game that I wasn't use to playing, I was actually trying to make myself feel normal again it was like a full circle. Once I got on a balanced TRT which did take a few years the next few years were very hard-core because I would use training and diet to push my limits again - Test is my best friend, lover and my worse enemy.

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Truth in every word right there lol - thx Marcus

[Cuz]

For me being on cycle made me feel super human and I've never felt so confident with an over whelming feeling of unstoppable power. The serge of well being is hard to mimic from anything else IMHO and it is extremely hard to come back down to what we would call normal levels again. Feeling normal just doesn't feel right anymore when you use to running test what's makes you feel super human. My muscles felt full, hard, powerful and when you experience these powerful feelings its really hard to ever be normal again. I was totally hard-core when I was younger and so fixated on getting bigger than anyone I would eat so much, lift so heavy and run my whole life around bodybuilding. I would push the boundaries and sacrifice my health to reach my goals and no one was going to stop me. The testosterone was a powerful drug which I couldn't control throughout my 20's and the mental strength what was needed to stay off and take feeling normal was too over whelming. The more I got educated and started to see how my body changed and responded was the time were I really tried my best to cycle more healthy.



In my 30's I just blow up and grew every day the comments and looks just fuelled my desire to get even more bigger and turn more heads. The devil and angel battle was immense because everytime I went on cycle I exploded and my body just soaked up every bit of AAS, my training was extreme and my cycles were even more dangerous but I needed to see were my limit was and how my body responded. Everyone would stop and watch me in the gym, everyone wanted to ask me questions and everywhere I went I got comments what just pour even more fuel on my internal fire. I was obsessed and totally addicted to making my body grow bigger, it controlled every part of my life to the extent of 24/7. The cost's were huge personally, emotionally and physically I would continue for years on this roller coaster ride with the good vs bad battle.


The emotional battle of suffering low testosterone was really bad I really cant describe in words how I felt, I would swing from the highs of cycling to the lows of low test and this changed everything because now I wouldn't even go back down to my natural test which wasn't that good towards the highs I was experiencing anyway. The lows of suffering low test started to impact me tremendously in many ways and my only saviour was Testosterone therapy . Going on TRT in my mid 30's wasn't ideal and the battle started again to get a balance in my body again which was a whole new ball game that I wasn't use to playing, I was actually trying to make myself feel normal again it was like a full circle. Once I got on a balanced TRT which did take a few years the next few years were very hard-core because I would use training and diet to push my limits again - Test is my best friend, lover and my worse enemy.


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Magnificent post Marcus. Im starting to feel halfway normal again in 4th week of pct sadly. I miss like you said the hardness, the power, the mental state of well being...

[marcus300]

Magnificent post Marcus. Im starting to feel halfway normal again in 4th week of pct sadly. I miss like you said the hardness, the power, the mental state of well being...

You miss it but is it in your head or is it reality

[Fcastle357]

You miss it but is it in your head or is it reality

I believe it's both. There is no replicating the feeling of being on. People use aas because it works and allows you to do things that aren't possible without it. When your off you know it not only mentally but physically as well. Anyone who has done a cycle has begun something that can only be described as what drug users refer to a chasing the dragon. You will never get that feeling being off ever again. Something people should consider before starting. You will never be satisfied with out aas again.

[Mp859]

I don't think Marcus has a genetic limit.

[Cuz]

You miss it but is it in your head or is it reality

Im sure a lot of it is, but I can just look down at my arms while typing this and the fullness just isn't there like it used to be. I need to train today. Hope I get to soon.

[Cuz]

I love you testosterone ......lol. But im mad that you left me....we shall reunite again...whats meant to be will always be..

[marcus300]

Im sure a lot of it is, but I can just look down at my arms while typing this and the fullness just isn't there like it used to be. I need to train today. Hope I get to soon.

Your playing with the devil

[Igifuno]

I believe it's both. There is no replicating the feeling of being on. People use aas because it works and allows you to do things that aren't possible without it. When your off you know it not only mentally but physically as well. Anyone who has done a cycle has begun something that can only be described as what drug users refer to a chasing the dragon. You will never get that feeling being off ever again. Something people should consider before starting. You will never be satisfied with out aas again.

Castle this made me want to share an excerpt of a PM discussion I recently had with one of members who was asking about this same thing and wanted some further insight on the 'darker' side of what we do.. here's what I had to say:

Everyone is different, but the 'dark side' we speak of is really twofold as far as I'm concerned.

The first part is the mental aspect of being on and feeling enhanced, and then having to deal with the mental anguish of not having that anymore. Almost like being superman with no powers.. it can suck. But, many don't have that issue - they can recognize that we can't be on forever, and that we can continue to progress with or without test.
The other side, and perhaps the more 'dark' of the two aspects here is the physical downturn that some experience after having surpressed their hpta and the process of it getting back to normal. Some, who ran test too much to often, too early, never fully allowed themselves to recover properly and therefore will never get that 'normal' feeling again, unless running test. This can be taxing on your outlook on life and, in general, can be a very depressing thing to deal with.

Really wanted to point out the bold sentence. This is something we all struggle with. But I think, if you can expect this to happen in advance and you mentally prepare yourself for the fact that you will lose some size and strength, as long as you take care of your self on the physical side (propert pct and checking bloods, etc.) you can deal with the mental side of it a little better.

As with anything, the level of preparation you put into something has a lot to do with how successful you are in executing it. So, the more we mentally prepare for this "downturn" in physical strength and appearance, the better off we'll be. Preparation also includes how we will continue to eat and train post cycle. Easier said than done but preparation, as far as I'm concerned, is key. I'm about 5 weeks away and I'm already mentally preparing myself for the inevitable.

[Fcastle357]

Castle this made me want to share an excerpt of a PM discussion I recently had with one of members who was asking about this same thing and wanted some further insight on the 'darker' side of what we do.. here's what I had to say:

Everyone is different, but the 'dark side' we speak of is really twofold as far as I'm concerned.

The first part is the mental aspect of being on and feeling enhanced, and then having to deal with the mental anguish of not having that anymore. Almost like being superman with no powers.. it can suck. But, many don't have that issue - they can recognize that we can't be on forever, and that we can continue to progress with or without test.
The other side, and perhaps the more 'dark' of the two aspects here is the physical downturn that some experience after having surpressed their hpta and the process of it getting back to normal. Some, who ran test too much to often, too early, never fully allowed themselves to recover properly and therefore will never get that 'normal' feeling again, unless running test. This can be taxing on your outlook on life and, in general, can be a very depressing thing to deal with.

Really wanted to point out the bold sentence. This is something we all struggle with. But I think, if you can expect this to happen in advance and you mentally prepare yourself for the fact that you will lose some size and strength, as long as you take care of your self on the physical side (propert pct and checking bloods, etc.) you can deal with the mental side of it a little better.

As with anything, the level of preparation you put into something has a lot to do with how successful you are in executing it. So, the more we mentally prepare for this "downturn" in physical strength and appearance, the better off we'll be. Preparation also includes how we will continue to eat and train post cycle. Easier said than done but preparation, as far as I'm concerned, is key. I'm about 5 weeks away and I'm already mentally preparing myself for the inevitable.

I believe it's true to a point Igi. For some perhaps that get a way with a couple cycles and quit. I have yet to see some one say I am only gonna do one cycle and quit and actually only do one. heroin users feel they are not going to become junkies.... I'm not saying people will become addicted to aas all I'm saying is once you do it there is no going back as far as a "feeling" is concerned. The toothpaste is out of the tube and its not going back in. once you know what it feels like and you see the results you can't unforget it. That's true danger and the mental fvck fest.

[Cuz]

Good analogy FC lol I like

[Hazard]

You wanna know a true mental fvck fest?


I got up this morning thinking about destroying my delts and traps. I've been hearing up for it all day. I'm gettin dressed for the gym, packin my gym bag, get my shaker cups...... I'm psyched! I get in the car with the intent of blasting Ozzy.

Instead..... I hear 2 toys that my daughter left in the car. A lamb is going "baaaaaa" and a doll is saying "I see you..... I see you....."

Mental preparedness gone lolol

[Igifuno]

I believe it's true to a point Igi. For some perhaps that get a way with a couple cycles and quit. I have yet to see some one say I am only gonna do one cycle and quit and actually only do one. heroin users feel they are not going to become junkies.... I'm not saying people will become addicted to aas all I'm saying is once you do it there is no going back as far as a "feeling" is concerned. The toothpaste is out of the tube and its not going back in. once you know what it feels like and you see the results you can't unforget it. That's true danger and the mental fvck fest.

Indeed.. which is why that mental preparation is so so important. Realistically though, if doses are resonable and pct is done correctly, you could be fairly safe running several cycles.

It's most definitely a big boy game though.. the mental tests are no joke. I'm just glad to see you and others like chad who are battling with it staying close to the board and continuing with your training.

As far as I'm concerned, and as taxing as the challenge is, you're winning that battle as a result. When you stop and let it take you into the swamps of sadness, that's when you lose. I know you won't lose. Chad you too.

[Igifuno]

Haz plays with Dolls...

that's ok.. I had to as well.

[Hazard]

Haz plays with Dolls...

that's ok.. I had to as well.

This just got better.....

I just got to the nutrition store my friend owns and the plaza has giant speakers outside blasting Christmas music.

I go from crazy train to "it's lovely weather for a sleigh ride together"

[Fcastle357]

We're on the same page Igi. I just don't know if you can mentally prepare. It can be done safely with proper pct and planning. I think people underestimate what they are getting into. I know I did.

[Cuz]

This just got better.....

I just got to the nutrition store my friend owns and the plaza has giant speakers outside blasting Christmas music.

I go from crazy train to "it's lovely weather for a sleigh ride together"

Try forgetting your earbuds and having to listen to it while HIT training in the gym....like being beat with a bat..

[Hazard]

Try forgetting your earbuds and having to listen to it while HIT training in the gym....like being beat with a bat..

Who the fvck plays Xmas music at their gym

[Fcastle357]

Try forgetting your earbuds and having to listen to it while HIT training in the gym....like being beat with a bat..

Lol the music they play at the YMCA sounds like heavy metal compared to Christian music. If I forget my headphones or I pod I won't go.

[Igifuno]

This just got better.....

I just got to the nutrition store my friend owns and the plaza has giant speakers outside blasting Christmas music.

I go from crazy train to "it's lovely weather for a sleigh ride together"

Keep it together man - you can do this..

We're on the same page Igi. I just don't know if you can mentally prepare. It can be done safely with proper pct and planning. I think people underestimate what they are getting into. I know I did.

It's like accepting a job that you want, but once you start it, you realize you're in over your head and you struggle to stay afloat. You have to choose, quit or step up and give it everything you've got in the most challenging of times. You can't do it alone, you need support from your co-workers (i.e.: us fellow members). Now go to the gym!! I'm about to venture out again in this iced over city I'm stuck in and find another one. Can't fly out til tomorrow so I'm going to train, eat, nap, and actually thinking about doing a round 2 this evening.. not sure yet.

[Fcastle357]

Keep it together man - you can do this..

It's like accepting a job that you want, but once you start it, you realize you're in over your head and you struggle to stay afloat. You have to choose, quit or step up and give it everything you've got in the most challenging of times. You can't do it alone, you need support from your co-workers (i.e.: us fellow members). Now go to the gym!! I'm about to venture out again in this iced over city I'm stuck in and find another one. Can't fly out til tomorrow so I'm going to train, eat, nap, and actually thinking about doing a round 2 this evening.. not sure yet.

Well said Igi