**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[mockery]

Day one back to full volume training after 1 week off and a 2 week deload.

AM / 45mins cadio

PM / back and triceps volume training.

Superset phase
rep range = 15
rest = medium
sets = 4

10 minute warm up

BACK
-Assisted pull ups
-reverse grip pull downs

-Lying incline dumbbell rows
-diagonal dumbbell shrugs targeting the trap thickness through the bottom

-Single arm pulley rows

...Then moved onto triceps.

Tri's

Close grip push downs
reverse close grip push downs

-Ez curl extensions, mark ripptoe inspired with more range of motion behind the head for second stretch and explosive out of the hole.
-Ribbon kickbacks.

[thunderthor70]

We'll I broke 250 lbs over the holidays, actually hit 258 for a few days but holding steady at around 250. Looked at the calendar today and I've been off cycle exactly 12 weeks. Might take a month to loose some body fat before I start my next cycle. My body is loving this style of training and I can't believe the amount of mass and strength I've maintained these last 3 months. My right arm measures 18 3/4 " and my left 18 7/8 ". I am hoping to break 19 next cycle. I am truly greatful I found this thread. Here are some picks from tonight, even threw in a Hazard pose. Hope I'm worthy!!

[kelkel]

That's a lot of weight. Looking thick!

I now have a cramp in my neck.

[Cuz]

That's a lot of weight. Looking thick!

I now have a cramp in my neck.

lmao cramp here too, haha.

Looking HUGE brother, got some vascularity goin on there too. Very impressive!

[Rusty11]

We'll I broke 250 lbs over the holidays, actually hit 258 for a few days but holding steady at around 250. Looked at the calendar today and I've been off cycle exactly 12 weeks. Might take a month to loose some body fat before I start my next cycle. My body is loving this style of training and I can't believe the amount of mass and strength I've maintained these last 3 months. My right arm measures 18 3/4 " and my left 18 7/8 ". I am hoping to break 19 next cycle. I am truly greatful I found this thread. Here are some picks from tonight, even threw in a Hazard pose. Hope I'm worthy!!

Nice. Traps and shoulders...sick.

[thunderthor70]

Thanks guys, sorry about the sideways pics. I need to up my cardio breathing a little heavy and was geting out of breath at gym tonight. Wife said I've been snoring a lot lately also.

[Mp859]

Looking thick Thor!!

[Igifuno]

Quite worthy. Awesome work Thor!

[thunderthor70]

Quite worthy. Awesome work Thor!

Thanks Igi. I know you've put on quite a bit of mass recently also. Any issues handling it?

[Igifuno]

Thanks Igi. I know you've put on quite a bit of mass recently also. Any issues handling it?

Yes actually. Zero stamina, which I think is from the tren . Lower back pumps were so severe I dropped the tbol I was running. Still a little tender in the lower back but much better.

Had pretty bad insomnia but that seems to have past. So really the biggest thing for me right now is my lack of endurance. It's a bit ridiculous actually lol. BP was also an issue but seems to be resolved.

[AD]

Yes actually. Zero stamina, which I think is from the tren . Lower back pumps were so severe I dropped the tbol I was running. Still a little tender in the lower back but much better.

Had pretty bad insomnia but that seems to have past. So really the biggest thing for me right now is my lack of endurance. It's a bit ridiculous actually lol. BP was also an issue but seems to be resolved.

how many more wks?

[thunderthor70]

Yes actually. Zero stamina, which I think is from the tren . Lower back pumps were so severe I dropped the tbol I was running. Still a little tender in the lower back but much better.

Had pretty bad insomnia but that seems to have past. So really the biggest thing for me right now is my lack of endurance. It's a bit ridiculous actually lol. BP was also an issue but seems to be resolved.

My bp is fine but stamina is in the crapper. Hate that feeling but seems to happen every time I make a jump in weight. I have no idea how some of those pros carry 300 plus pounds

[Java Man]

A lot of people load the weight and do half assed reps with shrugs. My brother-in-law puts 405lbs on and try's to do 3 sets of 12 and he has no traps lol.

I put 275lbs on and I make sure I get a full contraction. I use the smith and do 2 sets forward facing and two sets rear. If you can't get a full contraction - lower the weight.

Thanks. No BS here, I regularly do BB shrugs with 315 for 10-12 full contraction. I even squeeze at the top and hold for a second before letting it back down slowly. But my traps don't look like yours lol. Maybe some genetics at work there.

Something I do not do is rear. I always do BB in the front, DB to the sides or front, never rear. I'll drop the weight way down and get a feel for rears, and incorporate them in from now on. See if that helps.

[Java Man]

This thread is epic Marcus and fellas. I must mostly miss Marcus post about diet/nutrition, until today other then the normal stuff "you fellas gotta eat eat eat to build and maintain, build and maintain" ( and I said that with a deep husky manly voice for effect )

It seems you big guys advocate bulk up and then drop BF. so real BBs don't mind looking like a bloated bull for a period of time. (No disrespect intended with the bloated bull reference - descriptive words to paint a picture really)

this chica likes the other way. Drop bf then build muscle bc I imagine i would look like a bloated cow if I add muscle b4 dropping body fat. Seems the different lifestyle of eating for the half men half beasts roaming this thread.

Carry on.

Actually your way is ideal. Put another 100lbs on and you'll see why we talk about eating so much personally, my metabolism is pretty high anyways and that just keeps getting worse as I get leaner. If I didn't force feed I would lose weight. I'm not even all that big yet. Lol. I don't like the ' get fat then cut' philosophy. I don't think its necessary or healthy.

[Java Man]

We'll I broke 250 lbs over the holidays, actually hit 258 for a few days but holding steady at around 250. Looked at the calendar today and I've been off cycle exactly 12 weeks. Might take a month to loose some body fat before I start my next cycle. My body is loving this style of training and I can't believe the amount of mass and strength I've maintained these last 3 months. My right arm measures 18 3/4 " and my left 18 7/8 ". I am hoping to break 19 next cycle. I am truly greatful I found this thread. Here are some picks from tonight, even threw in a Hazard pose. Hope I'm worthy!!

1/4" and 1/8" to gain next round? You'll do that in your sleep, (literally haha) .

Thick, lean too. Nice work!

[Hazard]

Lookin go Thor..... Arms are almost the same size. How tall are you?

[Igifuno]

how many more wks?

4 wks left. Looking forward to it being over too. Also decided not to run the Winstrol I have. Not sure why I was even considering or for this cycle. Will continue biking off cycle through April, at which time I plan to prime and do a cut cycle in May.

So in this cycle alone I dropped hgh (or whatever that was), tbol and win. Lol.

[Java Man]

4 wks left. Looking forward to it being over too. Also decided not to run the Winstrol I have. Not sure why I was even considering or for this cycle. Will continue biking off cycle through April, at which time I plan to prime and do a cut cycle in May.

So in this cycle alone I dropped hgh (or whatever that was), tbol and win. Lol.

And look how much progress you still made. More isn't better. You just proved it.

[Igifuno]

And look how much progress you still made. More isn't better. You just proved it.

Exactly. First time I really was able to prove that lesson on myself. Who knows, maybe just test and winny for the spring cutter.

[Java Man]

I think I'm going to just stick to test and deca from now on. I see no need to stack 4 or 5 different compounds. I got great.results from just those 2 this past year. Yes, I experimented with tren but nothing crazy and imo just not worth the damage it does unless youre a competitor and have to run it to keep the edge. This coming from a guy with 19% bf lol.

Honestly, my diet is high in calories and fairly clean but if I was a little stricter I could lose another 5% I'm certain. Point is why stack 5.drugs when 2 will do the job.

[RipOwens]

We'll I broke 250 lbs over the holidays, actually hit 258 for a few days but holding steady at around 250. Looked at the calendar today and I've been off cycle exactly 12 weeks. Might take a month to loose some body fat before I start my next cycle. My body is loving this style of training and I can't believe the amount of mass and strength I've maintained these last 3 months. My right arm measures 18 3/4 " and my left 18 7/8 ". I am hoping to break 19 next cycle. I am truly greatful I found this thread. Here are some picks from tonight, even threw in a Hazard pose. Hope I'm worthy!! <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147350"/> <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=147352"/>

Lookin big bud!

[kronik420]

I think I'm going to just stick to test and deca from now on. I see no need to stack 4 or 5 different compounds. I got great.results from just those 2 this past year. Yes, I experimented with tren but nothing crazy and imo just not worth the damage it does unless youre a competitor and have to run it to keep the edge. This coming from a guy with 19% bf lol.

Honestly, my diet is high in calories and fairly clean but if I was a little stricter I could lose another 5% I'm certain. Point is why stack 5.drugs when 2 will do the job.

decided on test/deca for my next one.. might add an oral or 2... probably start March/April..

[Hazard]

I think I'm going to just stick to test and deca from now on. I see no need to stack 4 or 5 different compounds. I got great.results from just those 2 this past year. Yes, I experimented with tren but nothing crazy and imo just not worth the damage it does unless youre a competitor and have to run it to keep the edge. This coming from a guy with 19% bf lol.

Honestly, my diet is high in calories and fairly clean but if I was a little stricter I could lose another 5% I'm certain. Point is why stack 5.drugs when 2 will do the job.

Even test alone has been great for me. I'm not kidding - my body LOVES test.

[Doom44]

Legs

Seated legs curls 1 working set
Still legs Deadlift 2 working set
Legs extension 1 working set
Hack squat 1 working set
Dumbbell walking lunges 2 working set

Can't walk properly now. Lol

[Java Man]

decided on test/deca for my next one.. might add an oral or 2... probably start March/April..

If I may, keep the oral short and don't stack them. I like to use an oral for the first 4 weeks then drop it when the oils kick in fully. That's not long enough to do any harm but long enough to get the kick from it.

Even test alone has been great for me. I'm not kidding - my body LOVES test.

I agree. I overdid my last cycle. 500mg every 3 or 4 days and I start transforming. Deca just seems to help me keep the gains and adds an extra boost, plus the joint relief helps a lot at my age. Test is potent enough for non competitors who don't need to be 260 at 6% for half the year imo.

[kronik420]

If I may, keep the oral short and don't stack them. I like to use an oral for the first 4 weeks then drop it when the oils kick in fully. That's not long enough to do any harm but long enough to get the kick from it.



I agree. I overdid my last cycle. 500mg every 3 or 4 days and I start transforming. Deca just seems to help me keep the gains and adds an extra boost, plus the joint relief helps a lot at my age. Test is potent enough for non competitors who don't need to be 260 at 6% for half the year imo.

you may

was thinking of just using dbol /Adrol pre-workout throughout the cycle...? idk yet.. haven't made up my mind...

[Java Man]

you may

was thinking of just using dbol/Adrol pre-workout throughout the cycle...? idk yet.. haven't made up my mind...

Have you used either one alone before? I don't mean completely solo, I mean not stacked while on a test/etc. Base. I have experimented with both, one or the other and stacked. I did some reading about stacking those too. My experience was I didn't notice any extra boost by taking both together. One or the other I get great results. I prefer anadrol over dbol but both do the job. The science also supports there being no cumulative or synergistic effect on hypertrophy but there is definitely that effect on liver enzymes.

I don't want to get into the link posting because it was a while back and I don't have them but google it. You'll find text on this subject.

[marcus300]

We'll I broke 250 lbs over the holidays, actually hit 258 for a few days but holding steady at around 250. Looked at the calendar today and I've been off cycle exactly 12 weeks. Might take a month to loose some body fat before I start my next cycle. My body is loving this style of training and I can't believe the amount of mass and strength I've maintained these last 3 months. My right arm measures 18 3/4 " and my left 18 7/8 ". I am hoping to break 19 next cycle. I am truly greatful I found this thread. Here are some picks from tonight, even threw in a Hazard pose. Hope I'm worthy!!

Your carrying some weight there Thor, nice thick huge size.

I better pull my finger out of my arse

[marcus300]

Going to try and blast my chest now, see how mu shoulder holds up. This is when it starts to hurt so fingers crossed.

[Java Man]

I just.did chest and triceps. I tried decline. My gym actually does not have the decline machine. I thought it did. I had to use db on the decline bench and it hurt my shoulder too much. I'll try smith next time but maybe I just remembered why I stopped doing declines years ago. Lol.

Anyways, great workout. I'm able to do crossovers again due to my shoulder not hurting as much as it used to so I've been putting those into my routine.

Incline hammerstrength
2 warm up, 1 feeler
1x5 375 (new 5 rep, last time was 365), rp, one more, drop to 275, 3x to fail, drop to 225, only got 3, 5 half reps, drop to 135, rep to total failure.
I had to go outside here lol. Almost puked.

decline db press
Warm up with 50. Too much pain in shoulder. Forget it.

Incline db flyes
1x12 75, rp, 1x5. Drop to 40, rep to failure.

cable crossover.
Light weight. 3 sets of 10, drop, rep to fail. These.carve my upper chest crease but I do higher volume on them. 2 reasons: I see this as a shaping movement and I can't go heavy anyways or I'll tear my rotator cuff to shreds.

Weighted bench dips, as.tricep warm up

One handed rope pushdown, high pulley
1 feeler, 1 heavy working set, dropped once, rep to fail

Pushups

Bar.dips

50min.


I should have done legs but wasn't up to it. Tomorrow.

[thunderthor70]

Lookin go Thor..... Arms are almost the same size. How tall are you?

Thanks Haz, between 6' and 6'1"

[thunderthor70]

I think I'm going to just stick to test and deca from now on. I see no need to stack 4 or 5 different compounds. I got great.results from just those 2 this past year. Yes, I experimented with tren but nothing crazy and imo just not worth the damage it does unless youre a competitor and have to run it to keep the edge. This coming from a guy with 19% bf lol.

Honestly, my diet is high in calories and fairly clean but if I was a little stricter I could lose another 5% I'm certain. Point is why stack 5.drugs when 2 will do the job.

Thanks for the words of encouragement Java. I think I'm going to stick with test and deca with a d bol kicker from now on also. Tried tren last round at around 400 mgs per week and it wasn't for me either. My body seems to love test anyway, I haven't gone above 750 mgs and only hit that thast round for only two months. I dropped the tren at 4 weeks or so and decided to drop the test at 8 weeks and take a break.

[thunderthor70]

Your carrying some weight there Thor, nice thick huge size.

I better pull my finger out of my arse

Thanks Marcus, wouldn't be here without your willingness to share your your knowledge!

[Java Man]

Thanks for the words of encouragement Java. I think I'm going to stick with test and deca with a d bol kicker from now on also. Tried tren last round at around 400 mgs per week and it wasn't for me either. My body seems to love test anyway, I haven't gone above 750 mgs and only hit that thast round for only two months. I dropped the tren at 4 weeks or so and decided to drop the test at 8 weeks and take a break.

Yeah I've been off about 3 months now and really itching to go back on myself. I don't have great cholesterol numbers, never have, and tren didn't help at all in that regard. I've got a standing bt order from my pcp that's good until may. I think I may see where I'm at and consider a january through april run based on the results. I really miss the fat burning, metabolic buzz test gives me and the power of aas inspired training. I feel like I have little energy compared to being 'on' but I'm not wiling to risk cv problems for it

[marcus300]

Had to go light with chest so did high reps to feel the burn and to get to failure. Just had problems when I put myself under serious weight so just came down to were it felt comfortable and went for it

[kelkel]

Yeah I've been off about 3 months now and really itching to go back on myself. I don't have great cholesterol numbers, never have, and tren didn't help at all in that regard. I've got a standing bt order from my pcp that's good until may. I think I may see where I'm at and consider a january through april run based on the results. I really miss the fat burning, metabolic buzz test gives me and the power of aas inspired training. I feel like I have little energy compared to being 'on' but I'm not wiling to risk cv problems for it

Check out this thread and see if anything there will help you:

http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...xperiment.html

[biggjd69]

Just a few shots.No cycle yet, waiting on bloodwork. May go on TRT. But in the meantime hitting it hard. On to the gym for back day

[marcus300]

Bit of chest for you, this was taken around 3 months ago

[Hazard]

Bit of chest for you, this was taken around 3 months ago

Fvckin hell ur thick man.....

[Hazard]

Lmao look at the gap in the shirt from ur trap to chest. Big boy status haha