**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Roger11]

so marcus if you had 7 weeks till a holiday and u wanted to cut bodyfat, how would you go about it, mind you, you have 7 weeks as you have left it to late, just like i have done.

[marcus300]

so marcus if you had 7 weeks till a holiday and u wanted to cut bodyfat, how would you go about it, mind you, you have 7 weeks as you have left it to late, just like i have done.

I would do what works for me and that's what I wrote in post #14932, nothing changes for me because my main aim is to preserve muscle tissue. 7 weeks till my holiday means nothing I would just go more smooth than lose the tissue. You may be different and you may want to cut your bf down fast but for me my experience tells me at my size tissue goes fast if not supported. All you can do is make sure your anabolic and increase your cardio.

PS...I wouldn't of left it late to diet

[Roger11]

Cheers mate, honestly id wait till after my holiday and keep putting on tissue, but i know im just not going to enjoy my holiday unless i drop a tad and tighten up, plus i promised the missus and a promise means a lot, ill just stick to my tren /mast and increase my cardio and see how we go, then after the holiday im planning on a 6 week burst cycle like you have said then go from there.

[marcus300]

Cheers mate, honestly id wait till after my holiday and keep putting on tissue, but i know im just not going to enjoy my holiday unless i drop a tad and tighten up, plus i promised the missus and a promise means a lot, ill just stick to my tren/mast and increase my cardio and see how we go, then after the holiday im planning on a 6 week burst cycle like you have said then go from there.

That's all you can do is your best, keep it strict and put in the hard work, all the best

[Roger11]

That's all you can do is your best, keep it strict and put in the hard work, all the best

thanks mate, ill be eating around 3k daily which is my TDEE with 300grams protein,.

800mg mast e and tren e with 250mg of test, what would you dose T3 at? Is 100mcg daily to much?

[marcus300]

thanks mate, ill be eating around 3k daily which is my TDEE with 300grams protein,.

800mg mast e and tren e with 250mg of test, what would you dose T3 at? Is 100mcg daily to much?

50-75mcg will be fine, concentrate on your cardio to create the deficit

[marcus300]

I'm not trying to be morbid but do any of you think about steroids and your long term health, does it come into your mind when cycling especially with all the bodybuilders who have issues. I know we can all say they had these underlying issues to start with but do any of you think about your long term health?

[almostgone]

I'm not trying to be morbid but do any of you think about steroids and your long term health, does it come into your mind when cycling especially with all the bodybuilders who have issues. I know we can all say they had these underlying issues to start with but do any of you think about your long term health?

Absolutely...but I have a struggle going on in my mind. I want to run a small cycle. I have one in mind, but I know bf% is still too high and I don't have a good foundation built up....yet. However, I have a stress echo coming up early next year and if my heart continues to remodel at the rate it has thus far, well.....I would like to do a nice light cycle in addition to my TRT.

...have I ever mentioned I have an affinity for tren base?

But health is a primary concern and should be for all of us. If nothing else, think about those that rely on you...spouses, children, friends....

[almostgone]

That's one reason it saddens me to see people just jump into a multi-gram cycle utilizing test, 19-nors, DHT derivatives... because for them it will probably never be enough. Just add another oral, throw some 'slin into the mix, and whatever else they see.
If they would just stop and think.....many of the top.competitors may use crazy amounts of AAS, etc. , but if it was that easy, everyone would be spiking and getting huge sitting on their "arse". There are no shortcuts to hard work except working harder.

[hawk14dl]

Doesn't play into my mind at all. Granted I haven't cycled yet, but I am in the planning stage of my first prop blast. First of many, I'm sure

[kelkel]

I've been doing rear delts somewhat the same for a while now. Been meaning to add in some cable work too. Have been positioning chest about mid pec against the high point of the back of the bench. Is that roughly how you get set, Kel.....or no?
I've been leaning over from the back of the bench instead of leaning in from the padded side. I'll have to try leaning in from the padded side. Might be more comfortable.

Just hang over the top of it. My head and arms are "over" the top of the pad. Arms hang straight down and nothings in the way of your dumbells. Everything will fall into place.

[kelkel]

I'm not trying to be morbid but do any of you think about steroids and your long term health, does it come into your mind when cycling especially with all the bodybuilders who have issues. I know we can all say they had these underlying issues to start with but do any of you think about your long term health?

All the time. And we've spoken about it at length both here and via pm. It's why most of my cycles anymore are basically just test. Also part of why I get full BW twice per year.

[clarky.]

Having a rest today ma bi's are still sore from the other day my traps and shoulders are sore from yesterday so happy.

[Sfla80]

Shoulders later tonight. Going to try standing bb press.

Been watching youtube videos....question is do you guys lock out at highest point of the press?

[Mp859]

Shoulders later tonight. Going to try standing bb press. Been watching youtube videos....question is do you guys lock out at highest point of the press?

Dont try to go to heavy and make sure you keep your core tight throughout.

[derekkpapa1]

Try to avoid locking joints where possible.

[hawk14dl]

Question about blasting vs a cycle. .

Is it more likely that a trt blast will retain/maintain more of the size and strength gains then a typical cycle/pct?

[marcus300]

Question about blasting vs a cycle. .

Is it more likely that a trt blast will retain/maintain more of the size and strength gains then a typical cycle/pct?

Any cycle will maintain better gains if your on trt rather than running a pct. On TRT your have no testosterone lag after cycle.

[hawk14dl]

That's exactly what I was thinking, just wanted to verify.

Makes me even more excited for my first cycle (blast)

[clarky.]

Shoulders later tonight. Going to try standing bb press.

Been watching youtube videos....question is do you guys lock out at highest point of the press?

I don't sfla i keep all the tention on the shoulder so the tri's don't take over. Try it do a set then one were you don't go all the way up stop the last 1/4 of the move and you will feel the difference.

[Sfla80]

I don't sfla i keep all the tention on the shoulder so the tri's don't take over. Try it do a set then one were you don't go all the way up stop the last 1/4 of the move and you will feel the difference.

Thanks clarky. All I could find were personal trainer videos on how to properly do these. Lol. couldn't find one body building video. I am gonna a post the one video I saw. The guy is a tool and the reason I asked.

[clarky.]

Thanks clarky. All I could find were personal trainer videos on how to properly do these. Lol. couldn't find one body building video. I am gonna a post the one video I saw. The guy is a tool and the reason I asked.

Lol.

[Sfla80]

Ok like I said couldn't find any body builder demos for this movement. If anyone can find one for me I would appricaite it lamo.

Just wanted to study proper form before hitting these but I think I have a good general idea. If I can get the wife to video I will tonight. but I think she will be busy doing cardio.

Here is the link to this guy demoing the press (he is in good shape but still a tool . Which is why I asked the lock out question. He tells u to press ur shoulders up at he end of the movement. Which I will not do.

How To: Standing Straight-Bar Military Press - YouTube

[DCI]

I think Yates has a video somewhere doing these I'll have a look and see if I can find it.

Tonight was shoulders for me.

Db presses was a bit weak on them two hard sets and a drop set.

Arnie db presses I love these.

Farmers walk love these and the burn they cause.

Side raises supersetted with front raises epic.

Started out slow but really came good in the end

[Dpyle]

All I can say is words can't describe how torn apart my back is after last nights session.

Wide grip pull downs: 2 warmup, 1 feel, 2 working with a double drop on the first and triple on the second

T-bar row: 1 feel, 1 working w 2 RP sessions before dropping and reping to failure

BB row: 1 set to positive failure, 1 set with 2 RP

Seated cable row: 2 feel, 1 working w double drop, 1 working with wide neutral grip and double drop.

[Sfla80]

Well shoulders tonight.....

Standing BB press ( very weak on this movement lol)
2 warms, did 3 feels, 1 working and DD

Bent over rows.
2 feel, 1 working 1 drop

Also did Kels movement, Not sure how to call it....Chest on a 30 degree incline bench rear delt movement
Only had a choice of 20's or 45 and up. So did 3 sets so tight movements with the 20's.

Smith machine upright row.
feel, working, and drop

DB shrugs

[Mp859]

Well shoulders tonight..... Standing BB press ( very weak on this movement lol) 2 warms, did 3 feels, 1 working and DD Bent over rows. 2 feel, 1 working 1 drop Also did Kels movement, Not sure how to call it....Chest on a 30 degree incline bench rear delt movement Only had a choice of 20's or 45 and up. So did 3 sets so tight movements with the 20's. Smith machine upright row. feel, working, and drop DB shrugs

Howcome no side laterals?

[Sfla80]

Howcome no side laterals?

I always do them but tonight was same issue as the rear delt movement.....lack of db's. Also I did two rear delt movements.

My gym is crazy busy...and with mine and my wife's schedule we seem to only get there at prime times.

It was a really good session. Not the best but I made due with what I was given.

[Mp859]

I always do them but tonight was same issue as the rear delt movement.....lack of db's. Also I did two rear delt movements. My gym is crazy busy...and with mine and my wife's schedule we seem to only get there at prime times. It was a really good session. Not the best but I made due with what I was given.

Oh I got you. Well at least you put in some work with what you had.

[Roger11]

Marcus whats the highest dose of primobolan you have run? what did you notice?

How do you rate it?

[marcus300]

Marcus whats the highest dose of primobolan you have run? what did you notice?

How do you rate it?

Again ive ran a lot of primo in my past but the actual amount what I thought was a good dose was 800-1000mgs anything less didn't touch me. The highest ive ran is double that but again I don't recommend that. Its a weak compound and doesn't produce huge amounts of gains its excellent in a cutting cycle because it doesn't hold water and gives nice small lean gains but what I would say its a good addition to a cutting stack, it gives you an edge.

[marcus300]

Ok like I said couldn't find any body builder demos for this movement. If anyone can find one for me I would appricaite it lamo.

Just wanted to study proper form before hitting these but I think I have a good general idea. If I can get the wife to video I will tonight. but I think she will be busy doing cardio.

Here is the link to this guy demoing the press (he is in good shape but still a tool . Which is why I asked the lock out question. He tells u to press ur shoulders up at he end of the movement. Which I will not do.

How To: Standing Straight-Bar Military Press - YouTube

You make sure your core is very tight and your wrists are under your elbows, keep the abs and butt tight and tensed and try and grip the floor with your feet, this will keep your whole core tight throughout the movement, if you release your abs and lean back your in a position were your going to injure yourself so make sure all the way through the movement your core is tight and you press slowly and controlled. I wouldn't lock out and also only come down to your mouth/chin area or what ever is comfortable. You can use a standing military press machine, smith machine or just take it off the squat rack. Here is Phil doing it on the smith machine

[clarky.]

Lol i was just going to post that ^^

[DCI]

The only Yates one I could find was seated pressing. And then I ended up watching about 20 videos that cane reccommended on the panel for ages lol

[marcus300]

Pre workout shake with 3 lots of coffee, I never have coffee but was feeling tired so thought I'd give myself a lift. OMFG I was on fire sweating buckets and the fire inside me was burning so hard, I couldn't stop and I killed it.

Biceps, Triceps and forarms

Seated db curls
3 warm upsets
2 working sets plus 2 drops right down to halves -fuking killed me the pump was immense

bent over concentration curls on the low cable for constant tension
2 feel sets
2 working sets to failure plus 2 drops - had to use my other arm for the last 3 reps wooow what a peak

db hammer curls
2 feel sets]
2 working sets to failure plus 2 drops right down to halves

My biceps were on fire, only had a minute rest inbetween sets and really concentrated on the peak contraction, my biceps exploded in front of my eyes, must of grown an inch easy with the pump and the feeling was horny as fuk. Didn't feel like my biceps when I touch them they felt numb and hard.

Incline lying db extension
2 feels sets
2 working sets to failure plus 1 rest pause

single arm cable pushdowns
2 feels ets
2 working sets to failure plus 2 forced reps which blow my arms and stretched my T-shirt, looked like I had a horseshoe up there

slight incline close grip smith machine bench press
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 drops, only could manage one working set due to the pump setting my arms like concrete,

Taped when I got home because I am a sad cvnt and just about 20.5"'s not bad for a 47 yr old "has been"

[marcus300]

I fancy videoing a training session, need software so I can blur my face or I could wear a gimp mask

[clarky.]

I fancy videoing a training session, need software so I can blur my face or I could wear a gimp mask

Come on big man we would all love to see that

[clarky.]

Just back from doing tri's and legs

Db skull crusher 2 working 1D

Dips 3 sets each to fail

Tri pd s bar 2 working DD

Behind head tri ex v bar 2 working DD

Leg ex 2 working DD

Hack sq 2 working DD

Calf raises 3 set each to fail

good session guys am fvcked. The db skull crushers really hit the tri's different i was getting the burn down nearer the elbow end as all the other ex hit the top end you know what i mean lol.

[kelkel]

Taped when I got home because I am a sad cvnt and just about 20.5"'s not bad for a 47 yr old "has been"

Don't even get me started....

[DCI]

Legs tonight this will be em fun