**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[kelkel]

Couldn't edit with pics....and hate when I do double leg shot. Doesn't do my legs justice. Need to learn how to pose.

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Not bad at all! Dog has a good looking leg too.
Watch the Olympia webcast this weekend!
Wear wrist straps for stiff leg deads.

[clarky.]

Fvck kel that pic is just aaaaaaaaaa fvck man a don't know a word mate.

[kelkel]

Fvck kel that pic is just aaaaaaaaaa fvck man a don't know a word mate.

Thanks clarky. Can't imagine how veiny they'd get if I ever diet again....
I'm shooting for Marcus size...

[Sfla80]

Not bad at all! Dog has a good looking leg too.
Watch the Olympia webcast this weekend!
Wear wrist straps for stiff leg deads.

When is it kel?? Is it possible to record or download....I work 13 hrs saturday

And the dog is my inspiration for legs

[Roger11]

HEY Marcus, if you did a short burst cycle now, what would it look like.

[almostgone]

...And the dog is my inspiration for legs

Man, sfla...really nice work!!!.....and pet that dog for me.

[marcus300]

Couldn't edit with pics....and hate when I do double leg shot. Doesn't do my legs justice. Need to learn how to pose.

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well done and looks impressive. Keep up the good work you have a great look to your body

[marcus300]

Thanks clarky. Can't imagine how veiny they'd get if I ever diet again....
I'm shooting for Marcus size...

I'd swap you some size for some of your cuts

[marcus300]

HEY Marcus, if you did a short burst cycle now, what would it look like.

In the past I've used very high dosages and in my experimental stages and when i was under the watchful eye of Borreson he had me on some extreme cycles but I did find a perfect dose which kept sides extremely low and gains sky high but boy did i experiment with high dose lol. Short burst cycles aren't for everyone but once I found out how to design them and worked with the dosages I never went back to the normal way of cycling. It was the same way with training once I found out which type of training made me explode i adapted it more and more until I perfected the ideal training environment. Its strange but my body prefers short intense workouts and short intense cycles and that's when I've produced the best gains. Your body doesn't continually grow it grows in cycles and that's what I adhere to with every aspect of bodybuilding.

My old coach Borreson said if using longer cycles worked I would be 500lbs at 5% bf but you know going on a 20,30,40 week cycle wont produce bigger and better gains in the long run but it will produce more and more sides, that's your body telling you to stop. Its impossible to keep on growing from long cycles we all know there is a certain time in a cycle when you just stop gaining and that is an individual thing but mine was shorter time scales which worked perfectly with how i train because i cant train like i do for long periods of time i do need a pullback from time to time and this would work out around the 6 week mark give and take a week or so, so this was ideally suited to fit into a short cycle whether 4,5,6 weekers. When I see guys saying they work the whole body 3 times per week and they think they are getting bigger and stronger I think " what a cvnt " it would be impossible for me to train any bodypart 3 times per week properly. I've seen guys in the gym who have been doing this for over 15 yrs and not one have made any serious gains and they constantly watch and ask me question on how to get big but seem to ignore they arte training to much and not recovering, are these people stupid do they not know about recovery and training intensely!!! I see hundreds on this site not eating or trianing correctly and most of them have their heads stuck in a book instead of looking at their bodies and watching what works for them and not what a stupid fuking study says or a dickhead in a book may say. ahhh I'm sorry i am waffling on and on without answering your question sorry about that I do go off topic sometimes on a ramble.

In my younger days if i was going to do a short burst cycle ( when I say short burst cycle I mean a heavy burst cycle, not all short burst cycles are heavy though) I would use 3g's worth of hormones plus HGH from anywhere starting at 30days to 6 weeks in length, ive been alot higher than that amount but around the 3g mark that was a really good sweet spot for me. These days or when i wasn't in a serious building phase i would probably use around 1000 - 2000mgs per week, this might seem a lot to many people and it is but for me its not. I do have to say before anyone gets any ideas thinking if they use the amounts stated they will explode in size etc that it doesn't work like that. Designing short burst cycles is worked off that persons past cycle history and how he grows. Some guys i know who are competing use around 2-3g's per week and other's 500-1000mgs so its not how much you use its about how much do you have to use to get results you require because more isn't always better. Remember a heavy burst cycle for some newbie could be 750mgs and someone with more experience could be double that. There is alot what goes into the perfect cycle just like the perfect training routine, you use what works for you. I also must state that everytime I did one of these short heavy cycles I would always without fail do a pre cycle prime this was the golden key to unlocking serious gains within that shorter cycle.

These days if i cycle i don't do much at all its normally around 700mgs mark but i really try to not cycle more than once or twice per year. I am very passionate and extremely dedicated with my training and nutrition and IMHO that's what keeps my size along side my TRT of course. I am a huge thinker and can go days thinking about training or nutrition, it sounds daft but sometimes i get that obsessive i go to sleep thinking about what i am going to do the next day, even in my work which does need great deal of thinking skills I over think everything but its done me well and its how I deal with things. These days i do prioritise what's more important in my life in the old days i didnt it was one thing only and that was getting big lol.

The compounds I would use would depend on what I was trying to achieve.

[Roger11]

In the past I've used very high dosages and in my experimental stages and when i was under the watchful eye of Borreson he had me on some extreme cycles but I did find a perfect dose which kept sides extremely low and gains sky high but boy did i experiment with high dose lol. Short burst cycles aren't for everyone but once I found out how to design them and worked with the dosages I never went back to the normal way of cycling. It was the same way with training once I found out which type of training made me explode i adapted it more and more until I perfected the ideal training environment. Its strange but my body prefers short intense workouts and short intense cycles and that's when I've produced the best gains. Your body doesn't continually grow it grows in cycles and that's what I adhere to with every aspect of bodybuilding.

My old coach Borreson said if using longer cycles worked I would be 500lbs at 5% bf but you know going on a 20,30,40 week cycle wont produce bigger and better gains in the long run but it will produce more and more sides, that's your body telling you to stop. Its impossible to keep on growing from long cycles we all know there is a certain time in a cycle when you just stop gaining and that is an individual thing but mine was shorter time scales which worked perfectly with how i train because i cant train like i do for long periods of time i do need a pullback from time to time and this would work out around the 6 week mark give and take a week or so, so this was ideally suited to fit into a short cycle whether 4,5,6 weekers. When I see guys saying they work the whole body 3 times per week and they think they are getting bigger and stronger I think " what a cvnt " it would be impossible for me to train any bodypart 3 times per week properly. I've seen guys in the gym who have been doing this for over 15 yrs and not one have made any serious gains and they constantly watch and ask me question on how to get big but seem to ignore they arte training to much and not recovering, are these people stupid do they not know about recovery and training intensely!!! I see hundreds on this site not eating or trianing correctly and most of them have their heads stuck in a book instead of looking at their bodies and watching what works for them and not what a stupid fuking study says or a dickhead in a book may say. ahhh I'm sorry i am waffling on and on without answering your question sorry about that I do go off topic sometimes on a ramble.

In my younger days if i was going to do a short burst cycle ( when I say short burst cycle I mean a heavy burst cycle, not all short burst cycles are heavy though) I would use 3g's worth of hormones plus HGH from anywhere starting at 30days to 6 weeks in length, ive been alot higher than that amount but around the 3g mark that was a really good sweet spot for me. These days or when i wasn't in a serious building phase i would probably use around 1000 - 2000mgs per week, this might seem a lot to many people and it is but for me its not. I do have to say before anyone gets any ideas thinking if they use the amounts stated they will explode in size etc that it doesn't work like that. Designing short burst cycles is worked off that persons past cycle history and how he grows. Some guys i know who are competing use around 2-3g's per week and other's 500-1000mgs so its not how much you use its about how much do you have to use to get results you require because more isn't always better. Remember a heavy burst cycle for some newbie could be 750mgs and someone with more experience could be double that. There is alot what goes into the perfect cycle just like the perfect training routine, you use what works for you. I also must state that everytime I did one of these short heavy cycles I would always without fail do a pre cycle prime this was the golden key to unlocking serious gains within that shorter cycle.

These days if i cycle i don't do much at all its normally around 700mgs mark but i really try to not cycle more than once or twice per year. I am very passionate and extremely dedicated with my training and nutrition and IMHO that's what keeps my size along side my TRT of course. I am a huge thinker and can go days thinking about training or nutrition, it sounds daft but sometimes i get that obsessive i go to sleep thinking about what i am going to do the next day, even in my work which does need great deal of thinking skills I over think everything but its done me well and its how I deal with things. These days i do prioritise what's more important in my life in the old days i didnt it was one thing only and that was getting big lol.

The compounds I would use would depend on what I was trying to achieve.

awesome post, thanks mate!

Would these 6 week burst cycles be only short esters? Or will long esters be fine?

Im thinking of giving one a crack after my holiday cycle starting soon, might go for 6 weeks.

If you were going for big size after dieting down, what compounds would you personally use?

Again i really only use long esters. Would 6-8 weeks of long esters be enough for a burst cycle?

[marcus300]

awesome post, thanks mate!

Would these 6 week burst cycles be only short esters? Or will long esters be fine?

Im thinking of giving one a crack after my holiday cycle starting soon, might go for 6 weeks.

If you were going for big size after dieting down, what compounds would you personally use?

Again i really only use long esters. Would 6-8 weeks of long esters be enough for a burst cycle?

I'll reply to you later on ive got to go out now.

[clarky.]

Tri's are really sore today guys . I like it when the muscle is sore the next day i know then i did my work out properly well thats how i feel anyway.

[almostgone]

Sounds great, Clarky!!....and my legs are still sore from this past weekend.

[kelkel]

When is it kel?? Is it possible to record or download....I work 13 hrs saturday

And the dog is my inspiration for legs

No need to record it. It starts Friday night but the main even is Saturday night. Webcast replays should be immediately available.

I'd swap you some size for some of your cuts

That would be interesting.

[Fllifter]

When I see guys saying they work the whole body 3 times per week and they think they are getting bigger and stronger I think " what a cvnt " it would be impossible for me to train any bodypart 3 times per week properly. I've seen guys in the gym who have been doing this for over 15 yrs and not one have made any serious gains and they constantly watch and ask me question on how to get big but seem to ignore they arte training to much and not recovering, are these people stupid do they not know about recovery and training intensely!!! I see hundreds on this site not eating or trianing correctly and most of them have their heads stuck in a book instead of looking at their bodies and watching what works for them and not what a stupid fuking study says or a dickhead in a book may say. ahhh I'm sorry i am waffling on and on without answering your question sorry about that I do go off topic sometimes on a ramble.

I couldn't agree with this more Marcus. I've been seeing more of this talk in other parts of the fourm, it's ridiculous hearing people say you'll get bigger by not letting your muscles fully repair.

[Dpyle]

Time for a throwback. Thanks to HIT and a good diet. Almost 1 year and 30lbs ago vs a few days ago. I thank everyone in this thread for keeping me motivated daily.

Different angles I know but I'm fairly symmetrical.

[kelkel]

Time for a throwback. Thanks to HIT and a good diet. Almost 1 year and 30lbs ago vs a few days ago. I thank everyone in this thread for keeping me motivated daily.

Different angles I know but I'm fairly symmetrical.

Phenomenal difference. Simply phenomenal. You should be very proud of your accomplishment.

[Dpyle]

Phenomenal difference. Simply phenomenal. You should be very proud of your accomplishment.

Without a doubt Kel! I know I'm carrying a pretty high body fat % right now, but I've been around the forum for a few years now and I've seen guys come here either starting/ wanting to start a cycle at near 6' and 150-160lbs. I was one of them myself, granted I'm only 5'5, but at 160 I thought that was as far as I could go without taking that leap myself. After a lot of reading and trial and error I've managed to bring myself up to a steady 185-188 on any given week on nothing more than a solid diet/ training routine and a TRT dose that keeps me mid range at best.

Maybe I should be the poster child for the Q&A section when these guys come on saying everything is on point and cycling is the only way they'll ever get any further.

[kelkel]

Maybe I should be the poster child for the Q&A section when these guys come on saying everything is on point and cycling is the only way they'll ever get any further.

Good point.

[almostgone]

Time for a throwback. Thanks to HIT and a good diet. Almost 1 year and 30lbs ago vs a few days ago. I thank everyone in this thread for keeping me motivated daily.

Different angles I know but I'm fairly symmetrical.

REALLY great work.....no....GREAT transformation, Dpyle!!!

[marcus300]

Time for a throwback. Thanks to HIT and a good diet. Almost 1 year and 30lbs ago vs a few days ago. I thank everyone in this thread for keeping me motivated daily.

Different angles I know but I'm fairly symmetrical.

Amazing results and well done, credit to you

[marcus300]

I couldn't agree with this more Marcus. I've been seeing more of this talk in other parts of the fourm, it's ridiculous hearing people say you'll get bigger by not letting your muscles fully repair.

Ahh man have you seen some of the bullsh1t what is sprouted. This week I saw one who trains a major bodypart 3 times per week and is getting bigger and stronger lol. If only he trained it right in the first fuking place he wouldn't have to just go through the fuking motions 2 other times. He actually doesn't know it but he is limiting his gains but I didn't say anything, no one listens they know it all so fuk em

[marcus300]

awesome post, thanks mate!

Would these 6 week burst cycles be only short esters? Or will long esters be fine?

Im thinking of giving one a crack after my holiday cycle starting soon, might go for 6 weeks.

If you were going for big size after dieting down, what compounds would you personally use?

Again i really only use long esters. Would 6-8 weeks of long esters be enough for a burst cycle?

You can run long esters in a short heavy cycle but that wouldn't be advisable for someone like yourself, but when you ask me a question about me and short burst cycles i answer for myself if your asking about my short burst cycles if your asking about yourself than my answer would be different. I've used long esters because the amount i was using was a large amount daily and i would swap to a shorter ester 2 weeks from the end of the cycle so i could start pct straight away. If your asking for yourself i would recommend you use short esters because you wouldn't be using heavy amounts of gear.

A pre cycle prime is a must with any short cycle and imho its a tool I've used with any kind of cycles due to the huge benefits it can have on your gains. A pre cycle prime can last from 6 -8 weeks then a short cycle can last various amounts of time depending on how you grow and respond to previous cycles.

What compounds i would use may differ from what compounds you would use, you use compounds what give you the best gains so looking over your cycle diary will help you with what compounds you would implement. I've used them all but I would normally use around 2-3 compounds my base would be Test and then i would add something like npp and var or test tren and winny or test drol and npp it would all depend on what i was trying to achieve but if it was size it would involve a good amount of test and npp with addition of drol or test, tren and drol.

Your better off using short esters for a short cycle especially with the amounts you would be using, like I've said you can use long esters but it needs designing around what works for you. For normal guys with a good amount of experience i would look at a 6 -8 week pre cycle prime going straight into a 6 week short burst cycle, I would also look at leaving it open ended and stop the cycle once the gains start to slow and stop which should be around the 6 week mark, but it can run over and can end up being shorter.

Do not under estimate short burst or short heavy cycles if you design them right and use the prime tool correctly linked to the right compounds coupled with a serious workout routine the gains can be very serious and for me they were what made me the best and biggest gains I've ever seen. Once I came to a brick wall with my gains and no matter what i did i couldn't build anymore tissue i would lose tissue then build it, it was a vicious circle i was in and no matter what i did i couldn't get over this stage but once i got shown how to prime correctly and i implemented a short heavy burst cycle i went into a different level. But again they not for everyone you need to use what works for you but definitely worth trying

[marcus300]

This week i had an excellent arm workout

Bicep and forarms
DB seated alternate curls
standing bent over concentration curls
hammer curls
wrist curls


Triceps
Single arm cable pushdowns
lying DB extention
machine dips


My mind was really focused on this workout and my aggression was running high so i knew it was going to be a hard session. I love the feeling before a workout when you just know your going to take yourself to your limit

[Hazard]

Ahh man have you seen some of the bullsh1t what is sprouted. This week I saw one who trains a major bodypart 3 times per week and is getting bigger and stronger lol. If only he trained it right in the first fuking place he wouldn't have to just go through the fuking motions 2 other times. He actually doesn't know it but he is limiting his gains but I didn't say anything, no one listens they know it all so fuk em

My training partner and coworker is this way. He trains everything atleast twice a week. I tried explaining HIT to him and I started breaking him into it but he said it didn't feel right. He wants to do 6-7 excercises per body part and then hit it twice a week. I gave up trying to talk to him. I just told him to spot me when I need one and ill keep doing me

[marcus300]

My training partner and coworker is this way. He trains everything atleast twice a week. I tried explaining HIT to him and I started breaking him into it but he said it didn't feel right. He wants to do 6-7 excercises per body part and then hit it twice a week. I gave up trying to talk to him. I just told him to spot me when I need one and ill keep doing me

Twice is better than 3 times per week but I see so many who think they train right and all they are doing is restricting gains. Recovery and training a muscle intensely are two major aspects you have to understand. Training more isn't going to give you more or bigger gains otherwise I'd be in the gym 7 days per week for 3 hours per day but hey if these people are getting results let them carry on. I try to stay out of the threads because the word cvnt will come out of my mouth for no reason at all

[Roger11]

thanks for the post marcus mate, appreciate it.


ive gotta diet down for my holiday in november so i might try a short burst cycle for 6 weeks when i get back.

i never use high test as i dont like it so what do you think of

250 test
1000mg NPP.
Maybe some tren ace aswell

Or what?

Be for gaining some size after ive dieted down after my holiday.

[Roger11]

oh and macrus what are your thoughts on insulin .

i know **** all about it but seeing some people use it they blow right up, very tempting.

[DCI]

Great weeks training for me. The weeks holiday and time away from the gym did me the world of good. Was fired going to the gym all week the intensity racheted up a notch aswell.

Loving the posts in here from tge regulars the vibe is great and people are all making long lasting gains by the looks of it

[clarky.]

Ok guys i did chest this morning i did some stretching and a light warm up.

Incline smith 2 working DD

Incline db press 2 working DD

Incline fly 2 working

chest press 1 working DD

Cable flys 1 working DD

It was a great work out guys chest was full and burning. when doing db flys i was getting a wee bit of pain from my front delt like a muscle pull sort of thing so i did not push that one hard no drops but still good pain from the chest.

[marcus300]

thanks for the post marcus mate, appreciate it.


ive gotta diet down for my holiday in november so i might try a short burst cycle for 6 weeks when i get back.

i never use high test as i dont like it so what do you think of

250 test
1000mg NPP.
Maybe some tren ace aswell

Or what?

Be for gaining some size after ive dieted down after my holiday.

I'd need a lot more information from you to help you with a cycle mate maybe hit me up when your ready or closer to the time but remember for the best results a pre cycle prime is needed its not something imho you can do just after a holiday if you want to use every tool in your chest to gain size.

[marcus300]

oh and macrus what are your thoughts on insulin .

i know **** all about it but seeing some people use it they blow right up, very tempting.

I wouldn't recommend it to you if your not competing and at a serious level, it is very dangerous even though many tell you its not it fuking is extremely dangerous. Ive only ever used it twice and for me it wasn't something I wanted to use again, didn't feel the need for it even though ive took bucket loads of gh using slin wasn't every a option again.

[DCI]

Ok guys i did chest this morning i did some stretching and a light warm up.

Incline smith 2 working DD

Incline db press 2 working DD

Incline fly 2 working

chest press 1 working DD

Cable flys 1 working DD

It was a great work out guys chest was full and burning. when doing db flys i was getting a wee bit of pain from my front delt like a muscle pull sort of thing so i did not push that one hard no drops but still good pain from the chest.

Very nice. Mine was basically the same instead did bb decline very nice pull chest is quite sore in different areas so it def activated other muscles im my chest

[Dpyle]

Phenomenal difference. Simply phenomenal. You should be very proud of your accomplishment.

REALLY great work.....no....GREAT transformation, Dpyle!!!

Amazing results and well done, credit to you

Thanks guys! I'm really shooting to get as close to 200 as I can before I start my cut for my show/s next year.

[DCI]

Legs 35 mins ruined couldn't hold the clutch in the car properly and walking ip the stairs was awful.

Started with warm up on leg press then a feeler set and then a really heavy slow set with dd only could manage a couple of reps had to take 5 secs to just adjust after I finished the exercise

The hamstrings with the bb very good 3 sets to strech

The lunges with db's completely ruined by then

[Dpyle]

And things just for a lot better. Found out from the plant manager that I got the job. This means little to no manual labor for me anymore. The only real downside is having to go to second shift and lose time with the family, the 4$ per hour raise will make vacations much more of a possibility.

[Hazard]

And things just for a lot better. Found out from the plant manager that I got the job. This means little to no manual labor for me anymore. The only real downside is having to go to second shift and lose time with the family, the 4$ per hour raise will make vacations much more of a possibility.

Great news man! My GF just got a great job also.... It's going to increase our combined income by quite a bit..... It's about damn time

[Dpyle]

Great news man! My GF just got a great job also.... It's going to increase our combined income by quite a bit..... It's about damn time

Yeah man! Couple years ago I took a hit on my driving record and it cost me a great job. This new position will basically put me back to what I was making back then. Our only saving grace at the time was that my wife moved to a new company and got a pretty good raise in the process. This will help get us out of the breaking even rut we've been in the last couple years.

[BG]

Great news man! My GF just got a great job also.... It's going to increase our combined income by quite a bit..... It's about damn time

great news ! Prayng for same tHing soon.

[Hazard]

Yeah man! Couple years ago I took a hit on my driving record and it cost me a great job. This new position will basically put me back to what I was making back then. Our only saving grace at the time was that my wife moved to a new company and got a pretty good raise in the process. This will help get us out of the breaking even rut we've been in the last couple years.

I know that feeling..... I bust my ass everyday and it covers the bills and expenses but it leaves very little left over. It'd be nice to build that bank account back up again.