**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Igifuno]

I've really been thinking of trying aromasin again but I'm pretty dialed in with dex ATM but if 25mgs/day wasn't enough what would one run - 35mgs... Or 50mgs(I hear not too much difference between 25-50mfs/day)? Does this hold true guys who run stane? Thx

I think lots of guys react differently and you really need to find your sweet spot with stane, which I think may also change with the amount of aromatising compounds you're taking. I've never run over 25mg/Ed even on heavy cycles and that seems to do it for me nicely. I know guys who are fine running 12.5/Ed and others who run it at 25/eod which seems to work for them.

Half life is like 25-27 hours so I like to take it ed vs. eod

[BG]

Nice stars BG!

The decanate ester always gives me a flare up BG it's the weirdest thing but NPP I haven't had that issue(I do pin daily when running short esters tho I inow its nig needed bug it's always served me well) - just figured I'd share - and on a low dose Cyp it's happened also both ways... Idk - influx in some way?!

Yup thats just it, I was hoping to get away with it. I raised the dosage slowly, 125, then 250, then 500. Thing with short esters, and I commend you is that I have to shoot daily because if my blood levels are not perfectly stable I gets sides. Im end up screwing up my injects and get acne, on the back of my head, it blows.

[BG]

I think lots of guys react differently and you really need to find your sweet spot with stane, which I think may also change with the amount of aromatising compounds you're taking. I've never run over 25mg/Ed even on heavy cycles and that seems to do it for me nicely. I know guys who are fine running 12.5/Ed and others who run it at 25/eod which seems to work for them.

Half life is like 25-27 hours so I like to take it ed vs. eod

I have to ed it also. At 25mgs you go through a lot right? See I only get one bottle then I run out, I need to order a few

[Igifuno]

Aromisan works ok for me, I just dont like to take to many things. The was I think is that Im taking steroids, now I have to take a anti-cancer drug, blood pressure med, ect, ect. Just not for me. My body just doesnt want the drugs anymore so I try just to take a little and have no sides. It makes me feel ok about things. We have to look at this wisely, look at big Marcus, in the end, it all catch's up with you. Im shoot tren 2x in a week, my hair starts falling out like crazy. Ive just come to thew point where enough is enough. Im 5'7".

We're not getting any younger, that's for certain. Definitely need to start thinking about this as well. I'm scared to think that it may be almost over, but I want to live a long life. I want us all to live long lives.

[Igifuno]

I have to ed it also. At 25mgs you go through a lot right? See I only get one bottle then I run out, I need to order a few

Yup, sh*t ain't cheap either.

[NACH3]

I used to run stane exclusively at 25 mg ed. I have found dex keeps the bloat down better at .5 mg eod

I was thinking dex was better for bloat as well as its stronger but I can see being dialed in with stane having its advantages

[NACH3]

Yup thats just it, I was hoping to get away with it. I raised the dosage slowly, 125, then 250, then 500. Thing with short esters, and I commend you is that I have to shoot daily because if my blood levels are not perfectly stable I gets sides. Im end up screwing up my injects and get acne, on the back of my head, it blows.

I agree - many say it doesn't matter I too have gotten more acne on EOD shots... And once I switched to ed shots it's been so much better and EOD on long esters has really helped me... In blood level stability! And using short esters basically takes the influx phase out a little more with ed injections... This is just my experience with them and I don't mind Ed inj's just need to get pecs down as tris are getting tough lol(only b/c of my damn shoulder lol)

Plus I'm realizing with NPP I can really ramp up the dosing(for me at least) I've ran upwards 900mgs/wk close to a G and my body seems to respond very well with nandrolone but especially NPP - like I said it's the decanate ester even like you I've tried titrating the dose up and at some point it either flares or I catch it in time... Hopefully the latter lol

[NACH3]

I think lots of guys react differently and you really need to find your sweet spot with stane, which I think may also change with the amount of aromatising compounds you're taking. I've never run over 25mg/Ed even on heavy cycles and that seems to do it for me nicely. I know guys who are fine running 12.5/Ed and others who run it at 25/eod which seems to work for them.

Half life is like 25-27 hours so I like to take it ed vs. eod

I've ran it in the past I just think it was underdosed b/c I ran 25mgs e(split) but I didn't get bw(first cycle) and didn't get it b4 hand and didn't get mid way so I too learned the hard way with dissing in AIs... But if run it ed at 25mgs for sure thx guys

[BG]

We're not getting any younger, that's for certain. Definitely need to start thinking about this as well. I'm scared to think that it may be almost over, but I want to live a long life. I want us all to live long lives.

Agreed 100%

[BG]

Yup, sh*t ain't cheap either.

LOL That why I only order one, I say "Ill make that last"

[BG]

I agree - many say it doesn't matter I too have gotten more acne on EOD shots... And once I switched to ed shots it's been so much better and EOD on long esters has really helped me... In blood level stability! And using short esters basically takes the influx phase out a little more with ed injectiol

Also agree 100%



OK guys, off to the gym while Mrs.BG does the fall clean up outside. I would take a pic of her with the back pack blower on but she isn't very happy Im going to the gym

[Igifuno]

I was thinking dex was better for bloat as well as its stronger but I can see being dialed in with stane having its advantages

Stane also seems to be better for guys who have had gyno issues in the past because the rebound effect is less since its a suicide inhibitor.

The wife says it's time to say goodbye time to go Xmas shopping.

[Igifuno]

Also agree 100% OK guys, off to the gym while Mrs.BG does the fall clean up outside. I would take a pic of her with the back pack blower on but she is very happy Im going to the gym

Haha that's awesome BG. Have fun at the gym bro and bring the wife home some flowers for being so kick ass with the yard work!

[NACH3]

Have fun Igi, have a good session BG(LOL)... Enjoy!

[Igifuno]

Have fun Igi, have a good session BG(LOL)... Enjoy!

Thx man. Shopping away!

[NACH3]

Thx man. Shopping away!

Lmao! Lol - just glad your having a good time!

[Igifuno]

Lmao! Lol - just glad your having a good time!

Great time tonight man. Got a lot of shopping done. Out to sushi with the fam now and taking them to a play in DC tonight. Love these girls!

[Igifuno]

Guys check out this boat I just got!! I'm so pumped. Haha

[Bio-Active]

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lol that's a seriously nice boat!

[Sfla80]

Guys check out this boat I just got!! I'm so pumped. Haha

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Nice.man!!

[Bodacious]

Guys check out this boat I just got!! I'm so pumped. Haha

Hell yeah Igif!!!

[almostgone]

Guys check out this boat I just got!! I'm so pumped. Haha

Man, that looks good. I could put all of that away by myself. If I ever get any time off work, I'm headed over to the closest real sushi bar. F-in love it.

[almostgone]

Sorry I haven't managed to get in my lift yet, guys and ladies. Hopefully Sun. night, I will get something in. If I don't get something in soon, I'm just going to call this my pullback and jump back into regular HIT.

[Igifuno]

Guys I tell you I've never eaten so much sushi. The girls had soups before the sushi came so they couldn't eat much, I knew better.

Still, I'd love to tell you I killed the whole thing but just couldn't do it. Ended up taking a bunch home. Lol.

Good time at the theatre and just got home not too long ago.

Training in the morning (back) and then shopping again. Hopefully we'll be 99% done after tomorrow.

[Igifuno]

Sorry I haven't managed to get in my lift yet, guys and ladies. Hopefully Sun. night, I will get something in. If I don't get something in soon, I'm just going to call this my pullback and jump back into regular HIT.

What are you working on tomorrow AG? Remind me, are you running anything right now?

[almostgone]

What are you working on tomorrow AG? Remind me, are you running anything right now?

I'm going to get in the arm session that I wanted to get done Friday. I'm on the tail end of a blast, may push it out a week or two, then back to my regular TRT. Been throwing in either Testoviron or Testex @ 1/2 amp every 3 days. Threw a little pharma prop in EOD for the first 2 weeks. Occasionally hit a cc of TNE pre-lift if I felt I needed more aggression, but really have to watch the TNE usage since my blood is stupid.
Haven't really lost much weight, but pants are a bit looser, so I'm still working on that. .
But basically, my blast was just a wee notch above upper end TRT?

[Igifuno]

I'm going to get in the arm session that I wanted to get done Friday. I'm on the tail end of a blast, may push it out a week or two, then back to my regular TRT. Been throwing in either Testoviron or Testex @ 1/2 amp every 3 days. Threw a little pharma prop in EOD for the first 2 weeks. Occasionally hit a cc of TNE pre-lift if I felt I needed more aggression, but really have to watch the TNE usage since my blood is stupid. Haven't really lost much weight, but pants are a bit looser, so I'm still working on that. . But basically, my blast was just a wee notch above upper end TRT?

TNE is such a fun compound, but it can definitely hand out some sides. I love it. Lol.

I really need to get in to donate. I've never done it and I need to figure out my hematocrit and lower BP a little more.

No weight loss but loser pants likely = fat loss so nothing wrong with that!

[almostgone]

Yes sir, defo stay on top of hematocrit and BP. . I can donate again the 17th, so I'll probably drop some off this week myself. It's gotten to be almost fun donating because most of the girls/ladies have gotten use to my humor, tattoos, etc. Actually, I may have spoiled them because I usually carry them a dozen or two Krispy Kreme donuts.

[marcus300]

Training at around 60% my normal now

got to give blood again next week then apt at hospital in Jan to see what they going to do

weight slowly coming back on

still very busy for the next 3-4 days then I should have some spare time

[marcus300]

Aromisan works ok for me, I just dont like to take to many things. The was I think is that Im taking steroids, now I have to take a anti-cancer drug, blood pressure med, ect, ect. Just not for me. My body just doesnt want the drugs anymore so I try just to take a little and have no sides. It makes me feel ok about things. We have to look at this wisely, look at big Marcus, in the end, it all catch's up with you. Im shoot tren 2x in a week, my hair starts falling out like crazy. Ive just come to thew point where enough is enough. Im 5'7".

Wise words

[marcus300]

I don't mention what I can lift because anyone can throw numbers on a computer screen but trust me when I say I am one fuking strong horse, I can rep what most powerlifters around my parts are doing one rep max with, it would shock many of you what I can lift but the most powerful thing on me or in me is my mind.

My mind has been tested many times over the years from my job, personal life and training but I must say dropping down in size as been a hard one for me, what happed over the last 4 weeks as been really hard to deal with and I know its only temporary and the things I am going through but fuk me it fuks your head up.

Ive always told people my mind is the most powerful thing ive got not my body and its been tested to the max recently. This morning I say " come on is that all you got"

I am coming back with force

[almostgone]

Marcus is back!

[almostgone]

Forgot to mention that the wife swears my quads/upper legs are still swollen from my last leg lift. Think I will keep with my version of drop setting hacks for a while. Hopefully I will get stronger on hacks over the long run and thanks again to Haz for posting up his training with Ian!
I do my hacks and reverse hacks in my angled leg press, so numbers don't really say much, (like Marcus said they're just numbers on a screen), but before the breathing and bracing, I was in the 400-450# range on reverse hacks. The last leg session, I had 580 lbs. on the machine ( 2-100 pounders and 2-45s on each side), and that was after drop setting my hacks.
It's funny how odds and ends/ bits of growth will just suddenly make an appearance, but dang it sure is satisfying, especially at 51 years old.

[clarky.]

Morning guys and girls i had a rest day yesterday and the day as well. I've got the shops to go to got something to get the wee one for crimbo. Back to it the mora though i'm really enjoying the rest.
One more wk at work then we are off for 2 wks

[almostgone]

I hear you, Clarky!! I know you're ready for it. I should be off for 4 days starting Christmas Eve, and man am I going to throw a hissy fit if it doesn't go that way.

[Bodacious]

I don't mention what I can lift because anyone can throw numbers on a computer screen but trust me when I say I am one fuking strong horse, I can rep what most powerlifters around my parts are doing one rep max with, it would shock many of you what I can lift but the most powerful thing on me or in me is my mind.

My mind has been tested many times over the years from my job, personal life and training but I must say dropping down in size as been a hard one for me, what happed over the last 4 weeks as been really hard to deal with and I know its only temporary and the things I am going through but fuk me it fuks your head up.

Ive always told people my mind is the most powerful thing ive got not my body and its been tested to the max recently. This morning I say " come on is that all you got"

I am coming back with force

Nice Post!

I use to think I had a strong mind Marcus! Now I am like fvck what is going on. LOL ...

good to see you back big man. Hope you get everything figured out with you health.


Dang Clarky two week off!!! I wouldn't want to go back after that. Enjoy my friend!!

[BG]

i don't mention what i can lift because anyone can throw numbers on a computer screen but trust me when i say i am one fuking strong horse, i can rep what most powerlifters around my parts are doing one rep max with, it would shock many of you what i can lift but the most powerful thing on me or in me is my mind.

My mind has been tested many times over the years from my job, personal life and training but i must say dropping down in size as been a hard one for me, what happed over the last 4 weeks as been really hard to deal with and i know its only temporary and the things i am going through but fuk me it fuks your head up.

Ive always told people my mind is the most powerful thing ive got not my body and its been tested to the max recently. This morning i say " come on is that all you got"

i am coming back with force

fuk ya !!

[BG]

Forgot to mention that the wife swears my quads/upper legs are still swollen from my last leg lift. Think I will keep with my version of drop setting hacks for a while. Hopefully I will get stronger on hacks over the long run and thanks again to Haz for posting up his training with Ian!
I do my hacks and reverse hacks in my angled leg press, so numbers don't really say much, (like Marcus said they're just numbers on a screen), but before the breathing and bracing, I was in the 400-450# range on reverse hacks. The last leg session, I had 580 lbs. on the machine ( 2-100 pounders and 2-45s on each side), and that was after drop setting my hacks.
It's funny how odds and ends/ bits of growth will just suddenly make an appearance, but dang it sure is satisfying, especially at 51 years old.

Awesome for sure !

[Igifuno]

Nice Post! I use to think I had a strong mind Marcus! Now I am like fvck what is going on. LOL ... good to see you back big man. Hope you get everything figured out with you health. Dang Clarky two week off!!! I wouldn't want to go back after that. Enjoy my friend!!

Bod, I know it's a mind fvck, but I think you're doing really well. You're staying around here, expressing your frustrations, you've got a forward plan of attack with an attached timeline to begin training again, you're eating well. You're doing all the right things man.

I'm telling you, I would doubt if you lose a damn thing. Your body is going to be thrilled with the rest and you'll come back better than ever.

[Igifuno]

Training at around 60% my normal now got to give blood again next week then apt at hospital in Jan to see what they going to do weight slowly coming back on still very busy for the next 3-4 days then I should have some spare time

That's progress. 10% ahead of last week. Slowly but surely big man keep it going.